The Fire......Controlled Pasture Burn........fail!! And the Stoney Ridge Farm Story
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Today's VLog takes me to the goat pasture where I planned a controlled burn of the field....let's just say I tried...I'll also tell you the story of how the Stoney Ridge Farm came about..hope ya enjoy the video
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Stoney Ridge Farmer It's your title. The algorithms take words like "fire" and automatically sequester your vid to non-monitized.
Have you seen much at all about the benefits of prescribed fire in natural ecosystems? I'm a forestry major at Clemson University and weve learned a decent amount about the positive benefits of fire and how it's a natural occurrence that's been suppressed and has caused many negative changes to native plant and animal species.
Also have you heard about drip torches that may be something worth investing in if you plan to do controled burns.
My cat is a murderer real men have killer cats YT, my boxer doesn't know what to do when the cat commits homicide.Wooooo
@Tumbleweed Amen to that! Bunch of idiots...
Just my two cents...I burn in spring and if wind was blowing toward goats then start fire there and it creeps across field into wind burning slower and more controlled, also mow around area and hay bales to create a buffer zone. Whooooooooo
Jim Smith I second this it's a much more controlled safer way to do a burn
Also good to burn strips on all 4 sides to create a stop point/fire break. Green grass can still burn so want to keep the fire from getting into it.
Very inspiring. Gives someone confidence to do something like that even if you didn’t grow up on a farm. I am a corporate guy by day and we are currently looking for around 100acres to get it done. Will be a weekend warrior for a while and your videos help me so much as I am someone that has zero experience with that life style. Can’t wait to buy my first tractor and get my hands dirty. Thank you so much! Priceless!
Thank you for all of the transparency in your videos. I'm glad someone will show their success and failures... Makes me feel better about my successes and failures.
Mad respect. I’m a 22 year old first gen and you have my dream story 💯
Just wanted to take a moment and let you know that I love your channel! It’s fun, informative and entertaining!!
Thanks Mike I appreciate it brotha
Well at least the goats lived to see another Stoney Ridge day... Woooo
First I want to say thank you for sharing your farming lifestyle. You are a very enjoyable fellow to watch. Then I want to remind you we live in a crazy world as I am sure you know. As a retired Police Supervisor, Detective and Narcotic detective I have worked undercover with many bad guys. But the thing was they all were nice guys too. They used that to gain peoples confidence then used it in anyway possible to kill, steal, destroy them and their loved ones. All that said because please be careful who you let in your gate. Just a reminder the crazy folks are out there watching so please be on guard.
Doing the same for my wife, kiddos and, myself within the next year. Property is secured, working on the old IH tractor, to help me, getting it cleaned. Absolutely love this channel. Merry Christmas Merica !
Not even gonna lie, that's been our goal since we moved on to our 10 acres. Honor system and all. People are crazy now a days, but our community is pretty good people.
What a great follow up discussion to my previous question! Thanks again for responding and sharing your story.
The early days of You and your wife’s relationship remind me of mine and my wife’s!
Such an interesting story. Pretty inspiring how driven the two of you are. Keep up the great content!
Awesome brotha...welcome to the channel!
You’re doing an awesome job Josh !! Thanks for the explanation of how StoneyRidge came about !! Would like to hear more about it
I love the honor system. There is an amish dairy around here that is all on the honor system. They have a small building with fridges and freezers full of organic milk, cheese, beef, chicken, etc. Probably have thousands of dollars of product and no problems with theft. The owner told me that the people who care enough to eat organic food aren't the type you have to worry about. I imagine the folks you do have to worry about have no idea the place is even there.
Exactly
That green undergrowth is my suspect for why it wasn't spreading like crazy. The moisture probably stifled the spread
You should try a drip torch, it stays lit and you can make a good clean line
When I saw the terms "controlled burn..fail" I expected a conflagration that included the hay bails and the goats. But a fail that does not run out of control is better than one that runs amuck.
I'm really enjoying your Farm Vlogs, even the 'failures'. Gives me a vicarious taste of a road considered but not traveled, since I've been tech (Bio & IT) oriented most of my working life. Keep 'me coming! :)
Thanks buddy
Start a small fire next to the goats for a buffer zone. let it go out. Repeat the same around any other areas, hay, fence etc...Then go back to the top and let it burn back to the burnt out areas. It will go out once the fire reaches the black, burnt area.
That's called a black line.
Broom Sedge is a native grass in most areas. Yes, it is minimal nutrition except in the spring. It is not an indicator of poor ground or soil. It is a native grass colonizer that comes in quickly after a field is allowed to go fallow. If you are trying to eradicate broom sedge, fire is not the way to do it. Fire actually helps to spread it. Fire reduces the competition and spreads the seeds while providing natural fertilizers from the ashes. If you had moved your goats into it during the spring growth, they would have taken care of it..You should have mowed around your bales and you should ignite your fire against the wind. Lighting into the wind allows the fire to push with the wind and create a larger fast moving fire.
I use wood ash from my fireplace and add it to my compost pile. Wood ash contains potash, phosphate, iron, manganese, boron, copper and zinc. If you have acidic soil adding wood ash will raise the PH level. Most plants grow in a neutral or near neural PH around 7.0 PH.
We used to do this every year on different pastures and hay fields. The key is making it start. Gas, Diesel Fuel, and your Propane tank. Once it gets a good start in 4 or 5 different places it will burn if it's dry. The best way we found to control the fire was a tractor and disk. Sometimes we disked around fencelines and shit sometimes we let it go the disked around it after it was started and once it would get started and burn to where it was disked it'd die.
We burned an pasture for the first time this year and the first attempt was a failure too. It got dryer a couple of weeks later and it burned good. We used a plow to make a fire break around the pasture and we back burned it. That pasture has never looked better.
Dang, I grew up in Greensboro and bought a few acres just outside in pleasant garden. I plan to do small scale version of what you seem to be up to
I have a Horrible Fright propane torch like that, but it also has a handle which opens a valve to really blast. They also have one that has it owns starter.
Too late now, but you might have started out burning around the hay bales to make a fire break before burning the rest of the field.
I agree with Jim Smith start your fire where you want it to end. Its easier to control if you burn backwards. At least control burn around the hazard areas then let it go.
It looked like you had a riding lawn mower out in the shed. Use the riding mower to mow a buffer around the goat pen and mow it from one direction so the cut stuff makes windrow. You can use the lawnmower to mow the field if you do not feel like pulling out you other mower. once you have the weeds into windrows torch it if it dry enough if not wait till spring.
Born and raised on a farm. Great place to raise kids. Thanks for sharing.
Hi.... Thank you 🎥👍👍👍
Broom sedge bluestem doesn't burn well unless there is enough wind to move the flames through it. Its growth habit is to cluster, which is deceptive. When viewed from ground level, looking across a field of it, one would think that they are looking at a dense growth, when actually it is just a bunch of dispersed individual clumps. If there is no dead, dry material between them, and little to no wind, it becomes almost necessary to light each cluster individually. On a side note, get a drip torch, it is far more effective and immensely more convenient than lugging a propane bottle around and dealing with the hose. We burn approximately 60 acres of field every year and always, until this year, used propane torches. I bought a 5 quart torch last summer and I have to say, that is the only way to go. With it, I am able to throw fire several feet. That comes in handy when making black lines.
Your face was so serious when that plane was passing lmao 😆
So sick of the darn air planes flying low over the farm ...same plane 30 times a day!
Screw TH-cam. I love your videos man
ashes are alkaline raise the ph in soil. NC soil is mostly acidic so some lime is good for it. I still would have the soil tested. Also during the dry season usually late summer to early fall its a good time to do a burn. Leave the ashes to let the rains work it into the soil. Ashes from wood are also very good in keeping slugs and a few other pests away from your garden. P.S. Try dousing the area in some fuel oil that is cheap and then set it on fire could work. The straw and land has just too much moisture in it.
thanks walter!
We got broomsage just like that and it is a pain in the butt usually means poor soil lack of lime I usually bush hog it let it dry for a week or two with no rain then try burning and if that don't work then I disc it until it is dead and then start over and plant new grass or crops whichever comes first
Hi, reading through your comments some folks hit on the key points to what went wrong. During my time working for Va State Parks, we burned every spring. February thru April is ideal time to burn broom straw. You will need a drip torch and mix the fuel 50% diesel and 50% kerosene. You can put gasoline in there too but no more than 20% gasoline. The torch is available from Forestry Suppliers Inc. They are online and their torch is $162.00. You may want to reach out to your Forestry Department Agent for your area. They are a valuable resource for best management practices. Some folks said you can mow around the hay bales creating a green line type fire break. You can also black line slowly around the bales or structures to rob the main fire of fuel. Hope this helps you. Love your videos....
Thanks Steve....we bought a drip torch after this video...might try again next winter
You need a drip torch, like the Forrest service use for back burning.
I agree....wonder where I could get one
Stoney Ridge Farmer that's what I use, my neighbour was working on his tractor in the field with a blow torch doing something he ended up dropping the torch and the field went on fire he lost his tractor and 3/4 of the crop
Stoney Ridge Farmer just be careful with a drip torch.
Or Ben Meadows. And DON'T under any circumstances get the POS kind of torch the feds use. Get a Panama with a 19" snoot on it. Vastly superior design for working grasslands, and if used correctly uses a fraction of the fuel with better and more even ignition. By properly, I mean putting the wick pan on the ground UNDER the grass. Don't drop torch fuel on top. Fire wants to burn up, not down. Lighting in decent fuel I've gone half a day and lit miles of line with one torch full. Not having to stop and refuel or swap torches saves a hassle, and every time you stop pulling line, the chances of something going wrong increase. You want to get the thing ringed as fast as possible without compromising safety. And yes, as somebody above has pointed out, you need to be doing "ring" fires, starting a backfire at the most downwind point and then pulling both flanks into the wind before putting in the headfire. www.panamapump.com/html/handheld.html
Edit: Just watched some more of the video, up to the point where it's not lighting. Yes, there is too much green component at ground level, and the dead fuel component isn't a great as it appears.
Also, broomsedge is a perennial (plants.usda.gov/core/profile?symbol=ANVI2). Destroying the current seed crop will have no effect; all the plants that are there now will be there next year. And burning at this stage of growth will probably supercharge the broomsedge and make it grow bigger and better. The only way to hurt it would be to burn it later in the growing season at full flower. Even that won't kill it, just set it back. And with your fuel load, it will never happen. You might want to think about killing it with Roundup and seeding, if you've got your heart set on fescue. A better option, given you may have some soil issues, might be to kill it and plant some better warm-season grasses; big blue, switch. Much more productive and much better feed.
There are a lot of online resources on fire. Your state probably has some, but for grassland management with fire general, I'd recommend Oklahoma State University (fireecology.okstate.edu/patch-burning/benefits/prescribed-fire-program). Good luck, I hope things go better.
Oh, I've got to say this also. That dribble of water you put on and around the bales was long gone before you even stopped BSing about the airplane. It would have taken at least 100 gallons to fireproof that area, and even then the effect would have been fleeting.
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Love the attempt to burn off the field. Probably too wet? Give it time and let it dry a bit more over winter snd you will have no problem getting it to catch.
The homestead is looking great! Always a lot of work, but well worth it in the long run! Have a goal and stick to it!
Thanks for sharing!
Hey how about put some land in Christmas trees, now you have to check if the market is not saturated as it maybe to late to jump in this market, I see a tree line be hind you that looks striped... look on line for a nursery and plant walnut trees and other hard woods if this your land... no return now but the future it will pay off once the trees mature money in the bank for retirement..... plant a few each year over the next 20 to 30 years......
Its not broom sage, its blue stem grass after it dies. Blue stem is a very good grass for horses. WE burn it off in the early spring to clean the fields. And it comes back stronger every year. You just wasted your time if you thought you were getting rid of it.
Pull a set of flat choppers around the area to be burned, create a burn free zone, or start at the edges and back burn towards the middle of the area to be burned.
Thanks for the tip Josph
You didn’t fail, buddy. I’m sure you learned something, so anytime you learn from your mistakes then it’s a success.
I enjoyed you telling about the backstory of how Stoney Ridge Farm began. I live in a rural area too and everybody in my community is pretty honest. We used to sell watermelons and cantaloupes every summer out in our yard using the honor system. I’ve always lived out on a farm and I love it!
Does it ever get lonely? I mean even with a spouse, it just seems I would miss the social interactions I have living in the suburbs with everyone. I often say I would like to live in a farm but I can't see myself to move out of the suburbs. My Mom was raised on a farm and she says she prefers the suburbs to a farm and does not consider ever going back to live on one. I like the privacy but I just can't see myself living on one for the rest of my life.
So that's what that grass is called.
I got that in my field in Tennessee,
So my soil is poor and that explains why my garden didn't produce worth a crap. Lack of nutrients. Thanks for sharing
Mix 3/4 fuel oil and 1/4 gas in a garden sprayer. A good mist will spread the fire like a flame thrower and gets hot fast. Make sure your sprayer has a metal wand as a plastic can get too hot after a period of time. The main thing is to use a good dose of lime on that field. I've always heard that sage is a good indicator of a need for lime.
If you'll drag something on top of that sage grass, it'll lay the grass down and then you can burn it easier. Also Ive always burned late winter and early spring. Enjoy the videos!
I had the same problem on my back field bout 3 weeks ago and had to end up mowing cause the stuff wouldn’t burn in snow camp either. Now I’ve gotta plow and lime and disc and well you know the rest of the story.
Thanks for giving us the background of the farm, we are doing the exact same thing but my farm is a lot smaller but probly just as run down.
See ya in the tomato patch josh
Failin' is not the point, learning from it is. What a great story... I got my 22 acres about 2 years ago but with work, it's hard to do any work on it due to it being about 45 min away. But I've followed you for a while and seen the hard work you've put in. Very helpful for when I start on mine. Thanks :)
He also works full time
I'm well aware of that...
I GREW UP ON THE FARM. 1O OF US, TWO BOSSES AND 8 WORKERS, lol, DAD AND MOM IS WITH THE LORD AND I'M 62 NOW AND MISS WHAT I GREW UP WITH. DIDN'T MIND HOEING AT ALL. ALWAYS A FAMILY THING, NO ONE GOT OUT OF THEIR CHORES OR HAD TO WORK IT OUT WITH A SIBLING DURING A CROSS COUNTRY MEET OR WHATEVER. I AM DOING PROPERTY MANAGEMENT FOR MY BROTHER AND SISTER IN LAW, BUT THEY DON'T EVER EVEN WANT TO PLANT A FRUIT TREE, lol GETTING AWAY FROM THEM NEXT SPRING. JUST A BAD DEAL SOMETIMES. LOVE YOUR VIDEOS! KEEP EM COMIN!
I tend to fail on my farm too. BUT, I have fun doin' it, which is the key.
You sure are living the dream. Good for you.
You can try using a trip torch with a mix of petrol and diesel may help you
It’s just not dry enough yet. Wait til January. That fescue sure looks nice. I have those dang grass burr stickers on my place and I use one of those torches to fry those suckers. Kills the seed is the important part.
Harbor Freight has a torch that runs on a pilot flame and a trigger for the blast. Saves a little on propane.
Cool story, I didn’t know all that. I don’t see any kids or bees 🐝 though. lol. Thanks and take care.
We call it broom sedge here. Your fuel load is not heavy enough to burn that field. You could wait until the end of winter after the fescue understory is brown and probably burn it but it won't help any, it'll come back from the roots anyway and you already have a high population in the soil seed bank. Broom Sedge is a sign of run down soil. Take a soil test and bring the fertility and PH up. You can also get some cattle and rotational graze with a high stock density but it takes longer. The cattle trampling it down, grazing it and defecating on it will raise the fertility and smother it out eventually. It's a pioneer species also that moves in on freshly reclaimed ground run down by brush or over grazing or constant haying. You can research some graziers like Greg Judy and learn about soil rejuvenation through management intensive grazing and high density grazing (mig, hdg) , his books are good resources.
You can also frost seed some red and white clovers into that near the end of winter and make better forage to graze and help build the soil faster. The thicker you can get legumes like clovers and a desirable grass, the easier broom sedge is to control, it's very non-competitive so good stands of other stuff will smother it out. Cattle will graze it when it's young and your goats are a good companion grazer to cattle that will help control parasites in your goat herd. Graze the cattle across and then follow with your goats to clean up what the cattle don't want. Rest that area for a few weeks and rotate back around on it. Do your best to eliminate bare ground or you'll never get rid of that broom sedge.
For future reference, when you burn and want to protect an area, mow around it, the standard rule of thumb is to mow a 10' swath buffer for every vertical 3' of fuel load. So those bales need a 10' wide buffer mowed around them. Then you might have a prayer of controlling the fire with that junk back pack sprayer...otherwise it's a waste of time. If you get in trouble with a fire you may as well try pissing on it. Get a decent 30-60 gallon atv sprayer with a high volume pump on it and a long hose. Also learn to burn using backfire that is burning against the wind, it's easier to control.
I'm a farmer and a bee keeper, new stockman and run a custom bulldozing business.
P.s. and for fuck sake don't listen to the dumbasses in the comments saying to spray it with gas or diesel fuel and burn it. Like WTF?! Good grief.
We burn our crop stubble every year, you might want mow into rows, then fill your spray container with 80% diesel + 20% gas (petrol) that should work. It great to c farm grow into something special looking forward next task.👍
I've always heard that you should do a burn in late winter and early spring so spring growth can take off on the new charred land.
Hi Josh, great videos been all over your vlog videos and they are great my wife and I are starting homesteading as we just bought our first 2 acres. We have the opportunity to purchase two more adjoining the first two. But to get back to my comment. You call it a weed slayer/ weed burner ? Here in Wisconsin is has always been called a rose bud. They were mainly used in the factories that do metal work. They could heat metal up very fast for welding or like in putting camber in beams Etc. Just wanted you to know that we call it different here. Amazing how so many things do the same thing but have different names in the USA. Thanks Josh for letting us into your life.
Thanks buddy..glad to be here for ya
Mr. Stoneyridge, why would you put fescue in that field? I know the part of Carolina your in wouldn't the timothy mix that you can get from southern states a more prudent choice seeing as how you wouldn't have to worry about grass tetaney coomon in fescue.
Awesome, I just subscribed a few days ago, Thanks for the story on how you got the land, The first video of yours I watched was the $100 truck buy, and a question is what part of north carolina are you in? I live near knoxville Tennessee, and if its not to far of a drive I wouldn't mine coming down for a volunteer work day.
Welcome my friend..I am near Greensboro NC 4-5 hours from Knoxville I believe
awesome story about your wife, God Bless.
Great idea Josh, using Torch, we used to use gas and light. Think if you did that she would of went up for you. It seemed a little damp, about only way, unless you let it dry.
dig it. Our field didn't burn either. I am still afraid if it does...fire is scary to me..
You are doing A Great Job. ✈✈✈
If you tried , you didn't fail. The only people that don't make mistakes are the people don't do anything.
I believe the ashes makes the soil more alkaline. My dad always added ashes to his garden soil. Old timers made lye from ashes, that was then used to make lye soap.
Sometimes farming is failing 👍🏻 I like that motto
Life just wouldn't be life without failures. I was hoping for a nice 'controlled' fire, but that's okay. Thanks for sharing. PS One of my most disappointing days in the army was when they cancelled flame thrower shooting day on me.
Call local fire crew they can practice backfire controlled burn. Start with soil testing and drainage. Plan. Rock picking and level your fields for irrigation.
Just want to say great job and keep the videos coming!
My dream is to one day be able to do something like you are doing now. In the process of looking for land now.
Not a fail at all and even if it was who cares you got to spend some time with a friend. 👍
Build a drag. Make a 10x10 or so metal frame, with a chain link or hog panel bottom. Build a fire on top of the wire grate and pull it slowly over the undesirable weeds.
The best way to control a fire is a leaf blower instead of the water tanks. The leaf blower suffocates the flame and its lighter to carry around too.
Also it helps and is a lot safer if u do a back burn. Then u have a 20-30 ft buffer strip so the fire will burn itself out. Just a few tips to maybe be helpful
Love the channel. Thanks for sharing the back story on how you got started I’ve been really curious as I’ve been binge watching your channel ha. Thinking of having my own vegetable garden in my back yard, any advice on how to get started, what’s a good size garden to feed four?
Man you could feed four on about 20X30 or less...I fed my whole niegborhood on a garden that size....start small because when you get big it takes the fun out of growing and makes it a ton of work...start slow and start now...work on your soil get some compost and send off a soil sample
👍thx for the background. Hoping you won the lotto !!! 😎
80% diesel - 20% petrol mix with a good drip torch is what you need to spice things up mate.. excuse the Aussie lingo :)
Wow that was great to hear how it all started,
“I like a big fire,” you must be related to Bob Ross 😂
I'm fairly new to your channel. I'm really glad I got here and I really enjoyed some of the history of your family and your farm journey. Great work.
Now I'm not from your neck of the woods so I'm not so sure I have the best solution here for weeds and laying down another layer of carbon on the soil (ash), but instead of a controlled burn you can graze cattle over the pasture for a couple days, send in the chickens and the goats afterwards. The goats like the weeds and brush that the cattle wont touch and the chickens scratch and remove the larvae from the manure.
BURNING KILLS THE WEED SEEDS AND PROVIDES A Ph RAISING SOURCE WHICH IS NEEDED IN THIS ACIDIC SOIL...I'LL GET IT BURNED SOON AND SHOW YA THE RESULTS
Mark Townsend
Down in my neck of the woods we call. That sage grass
Wooooo! Another great vid! Great job telling your story! I live in Asheville and will have to try to get down there sometime. Hey what brand of shades are you wearing in this one? I am trying to find a quality pair and new glasses and you seem to have enough different types to know what are the best brand. Thanks again for all your awesome content! WOOOOOOO!
Oakleys and ray bans are good brands.
Stihl SG 20 “WEED SLAYER” 😂😂😂
Wel if it broom grass can ya make brooms out of it ? May not be a fail after all. It'll give ya something to do during the winter months . lol or maybe not . Berea college in Madison county have classes and Renfro Valley. Just a thought.
When I saw the density of the sage grass I knew that was going to be a tough burn. But humidity was the killer. Wait for a real low humidity day and it will burn. I have 160 acres I burn every spring. There is no killing the sage grass. It was born for fire. It will be back next year unless you improve the soil.
Wow... Thanks Man... All the Best..." Job Well Done"
mow around those bails? soak the area around the bails?
Love the Kum and go hat
Lol my luck everytime I burn something. The wind tends to wanna pick up and whatever I burn burns quicker
"Carbonaceous," new favorite word.
Keep up with the great videos!
Bees! There's our common thread lol. Hoping to start queen rearing this spring, got our feet wet in it a little bit last year, just enough to learn what we didn't know!
Hi Josh, Sometimes yur the windshield sometimes yur the Bug. We always used diesel did make you look funny with no eyebrows LOL
Burn into the wind. I do it all the time with Bermuda grass in early spring. It’ll burn slower and all the way to the ground. I would get more water up there to. One good gust of wind and fire will jump a water line.
Josh, now you knew all this rain you've been having would not produce fire. Cool video though.
We love ur music on your vid. Good job
Just got done burning out some weeds in our fields as well.
We had some interesting burning experiences on your grandpa's farm !!
So at some point did you get another 50 acres?
Keep the faith....
I love your show ..
Thanks James
Sometimes you fail I've had the same thing happen to me I bet if you had a sickle mower or a disc mower you could lay it down and it would burn great video
You hate the planes? Around my way in Georgia when you call in a burn permit the forestry dept flies a plane over you to ensure all is well. I wonder if that's what the plane was doing? Unless someone always flies over your farm.
Sounds like a huge waste of money flying over to check on your fire...when you apply for a burn permit you're supposed to stay with the fire around here, which isn't always possible ...man has to sleep lol....there is an airport about 5 miles away..and a dual engine prop plane that blasts over the farm about 2 hours a day...you'd get sick of it too brotha
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer yeah I'd definitely get tired of that. When I burn at my house they do not fly. When we burn at my friends farm they fly. I believe it depends on the acreage you plan on burning.
Just wasn’t meant to be!! Great video!
You could have tilled up a barrier between what you want to burn and what you don't.
try using fuel, and/or a drip torch