On the evening of November 29, 1964, 2 years before the fight, Williams was shot in the stomach by a highway patrolman, for supposedly resisting arrest. The . 357 magnum bullet moved across his intestines and lodged in his right hip, doing immense damage to his colon and right kidney. Then Ali had a Hernia that on Nov. 19 1964 for a rematch with Liston was cancelled. Then Williams found himself fighting for his life a week later. That stinks of rubbish. They knew that Clay would win the rematch because the Fix was in play. But they didn’t know what to do about mandatory challenger. So they purposefully cancelled the fight on the news Ali has a Hernia. No proof came to fruition. So they had taken Ali greatest threat of the title because he was not prepared to loose for a fix. So they attempted to kill him & his manager was on the fix, Bud Adams. These circumstances don’t just happen it was all done by design.
these events come in to place so well it doesent make any sense for them to be upon non thoughted plans that werent discussed in the offices it was setups
That’s correct, whether the fight between Sonny Liston v Muhammad happens in Boston or in Mayne. The outcome was the same, it was meant to delay the fight by a few more months, to ensure Ali didn’t face a prime Williams. Then when the fight was to take place between Ali v Williams, guess what his surgical costs & hospital expenses were garnished before walking out to face Ali. To add insult to injury Williams would have been told by Bud Adams and Co. you will see something if you eat punches and loose. So he walked around like a moving boxing bag. The same fix was set for Williams as it was for Liston.
ahhh shit i love that picture of williams you have in your pfp reminds me of brother in navy a little bit but ive thought that process one million times man
It never ceases to amaze me that Sonny Liston consider him the hardest puncher he ever fought-even remarking that Williams was so muscular that “even his eyelids had muscles” which I personally find hilarious-and George Foreman consider him as among the three hardest punchers he had encountered (alongside Gerry Cooney and Ron Lyle). If lifeʼs misfortunes had not come his way during his prime and he was trained to be in the best condition and technicality, I am most certain that he could have beaten both Liston and Ali and become the world heavyweight champion. Rest in Peace to the 'Big Cat.' God bless him and his loved ones. And thank you for uploading this video tribute about him! I always loved watching his matches. Those left hooks were fast and ferocious!
One thing I noticed watching this tribute is Williams came out from his corner into middle of the ring in the same fashion. But you can see speed of leg movement as he was fighting Chuvalo.
i put a couple clips in the beginning of his corner start so people could see his style hands up wide left in fron and right by face for parrying during the chuvalo fight his speed wasnt the same but he still had a little bit but nothing like he used to
Sometimes life isn't fair at all. Many of these boys from the Ali era would probably be Champions today. Williams, Folley, Bonavena. Several that I am probably forgetting. I own copies of many of these films. Cleveland Williams was a bad ass!
i know its sad man its all sad and depressing these men bonavena folley williams quarry spencer martin eddie machen. all these guys and more were all worthy of a title but nope ali came in and the boxing world set him up to be the best and nobody else was supposed to be the champ just sad and it sucks also would like to see the films
@@EwFatppl All true. One of these days I am hoping to put some of my collection on youtube. I am trying to find a fight now that I am almost sure I seen a long time ago but haven't had any luck finding it at all. If it happens, I'll let you know.
Murderous puncher got his shot too late was a top contender in the late fifties and early sixties gun shot shortened his career was only a shell of his former self after that.🥊🥊🇺🇸👍🏼😎
He would have beat Ali it would have been the full cat Ali woulda been getting !Cause cat could move and was good on his feet to be a tall heavyweight!Ali knew he had the advantage by that happening too cat
i cant stop listening to this song ever since u had it u got me hook i been working on a williams tribute but i got more stuff next this vid probably is lousey lol cause i used a shitty editer on my phone
@@THEDONSTR8Fightah76 thanks, yeah one interesting thing though thats cool is that. those first clips of people cheering william in the video, right after people said “cmon william!!” or “Get em Cleve!!” shortly after the cheering it seems like he gets a boost of adrenaline then attacks the opponent successfully and blast them
@@clevelandwilliams5922 right exactly cleveland was the champ we wanted he was the champion the people wanted not muhammad no one wanted a coward and someone who wouldnt stand for his own country as the heavyweight champion of the world even my 79yr grandpa whos a veteran was confused on why he didnt serve in the war, ali is great but hes not the best out of everyone from no means, even cleveland said he was gonna be the champ the people wanted “ Me to be”
his best is ernie terrel kayo,omilo agramote, alonzo johnson curly lee chapman which was a up and coming heavyweight who actually had a short but very GOOD record and cleveland williams beat him so bad to the point he even got lifted up off the ground from a uppercut but curly lee chapman had mental issues from his loss from cleveland and cleve ended his career,john holman,billy daniels twice ,theres abunch of others good wins he has go look but at his start of his career he fought ponce delon taylor which alot of fighters fought around that era and kayoed ponce delon ponce delon fought everybody
you got 7th round tko of Young jack johnson who beat ezard charles YJJ was a good contender, todd herring, king george moore was undefeated before facing cleveland williams and king george moore looked like a straight up beast
@@EwFatppl Yes indeed. I might add that Big Cat's fight with Eddie Machen which although was a draw was at a time when Machen was in peak condition and his prime. Sonny Liston got a controversial win over an "in shape" and prime Machen. Many believe Liston lost that fight.
On the evening of November 29, 1964, 2 years before the fight, Williams was shot in the stomach by a highway patrolman, for supposedly resisting arrest. The . 357 magnum bullet moved across his intestines and lodged in his right hip, doing immense damage to his colon and right kidney.
Then Ali had a Hernia that on Nov. 19 1964 for a rematch with Liston was cancelled. Then Williams found himself fighting for his life a week later. That stinks of rubbish. They knew that Clay would win the rematch because the Fix was in play. But they didn’t know what to do about mandatory challenger. So they purposefully cancelled the fight on the news Ali has a Hernia. No proof came to fruition. So they had taken Ali greatest threat of the title because he was not prepared to loose for a fix. So they attempted to kill him & his manager was on the fix, Bud Adams. These circumstances don’t just happen it was all done by design.
these events come in to place so well it doesent make any sense for them to be upon non thoughted plans that werent discussed in the offices it was setups
That’s correct, whether the fight between Sonny Liston v Muhammad happens in Boston or in Mayne. The outcome was the same, it was meant to delay the fight by a few more months, to ensure Ali didn’t face a prime Williams. Then when the fight was to take place between Ali v Williams, guess what his surgical costs & hospital expenses were garnished before walking out to face Ali. To add insult to injury Williams would have been told by Bud Adams and Co. you will see something if you eat punches and loose. So he walked around like a moving boxing bag. The same fix was set for Williams as it was for Liston.
if I had a time travel machine I did go back in time to all Cleveland Williams fights and record them on my Iphone and post them online.
ahhh shit i love that picture of williams you have in your pfp reminds me of brother in navy a little bit but ive thought that process one million times man
I would’ve loved to meet the man and warn him. I also would’ve like him to teach me a thing or two about how to throw a hook like him.
Cleveland Williams is the reason why my Left hook is the best punch and why I am a hard hitter in Boxing
It never ceases to amaze me that Sonny Liston consider him the hardest puncher he ever fought-even remarking that Williams was so muscular that “even his eyelids had muscles” which I personally find hilarious-and George Foreman consider him as among the three hardest punchers he had encountered (alongside Gerry Cooney and Ron Lyle).
If lifeʼs misfortunes had not come his way during his prime and he was trained to be in the best condition and technicality, I am most certain that he could have beaten both Liston and Ali and become the world heavyweight champion.
Rest in Peace to the 'Big Cat.' God bless him and his loved ones.
And thank you for uploading this video tribute about him! I always loved watching his matches. Those left hooks were fast and ferocious!
Great video! Always good to see rare pics of the "Big Cat". His trials were tragic but his spirit was invincible.
my other vids has rare pics
One thing I noticed watching this tribute is Williams came out from his corner into middle of the ring in the same fashion. But you can see speed of leg movement as he was fighting Chuvalo.
i put a couple clips in the beginning of his corner start so people could see his style hands up wide left in fron and right by face for parrying during the chuvalo fight his speed wasnt the same but he still had a little bit but nothing like he used to
@@EwFatppl Yes I know he was 38 or 39 years of age and had to carry a .357 bullet.
Sometimes life isn't fair at all. Many of these boys from the Ali era would probably be Champions today. Williams, Folley, Bonavena. Several that I am probably forgetting. I own copies of many of these films. Cleveland Williams was a bad ass!
i know its sad man its all sad and depressing these men bonavena folley williams quarry spencer martin eddie machen. all these guys and more were all worthy of a title but nope ali came in and the boxing world set him up to be the best and nobody else was supposed to be the champ just sad and it sucks also would like to see the films
@@EwFatppl All true. One of these days I am hoping to put some of my collection on youtube. I am trying to find a fight now that I am almost sure I seen a long time ago but haven't had any luck finding it at all. If it happens, I'll let you know.
My God how big and ferocious was the big Cat Williams once he got those cannons blazing watch out!
@@harryheath9928 He could be very scary. It's a shame he's not as remembered as he deserves to be.
@@constantine7382 alright cus ill be happy to see it
Murderous puncher got his shot too late was a top contender in the late fifties and early sixties gun shot shortened his career was only a shell of his former self after that.🥊🥊🇺🇸👍🏼😎
I have always wondered how his fight with Ali would have turned out if he had not been shot.
He would have beat Ali it would have been the full cat Ali woulda been getting !Cause cat could move and was good on his feet to be a tall heavyweight!Ali knew he had the advantage by that happening too cat
wouldve been better he probably wouldnt have been kayoed coudlve knocked down ali possibly or won a decision
Yeah you could see how badly his movement was affected. What a warrior to even get out there
Angelo Dundee would not have let Ali fight him.
If he hadn't been shot and faced the same version of Ali, he still would have lost, although he may have lasted a little longer.
R.I.P. Prodigy and Cleve
i cant stop listening to this song ever since u had it u got me hook i been working on a williams tribute but i got more stuff next this vid probably is lousey lol cause i used a shitty editer on my phone
@@EwFatppl it good enough, bruvuh.
@@THEDONSTR8Fightah76 thanks, yeah one interesting thing though thats cool is that. those first clips of people cheering william in the video, right after people said “cmon william!!” or “Get em Cleve!!” shortly after the cheering it seems like he gets a boost of adrenaline then attacks the opponent successfully and blast them
Cleveland Williams proof boxing fraternity is not about the best man to be champion.
@@clevelandwilliams5922 right exactly cleveland was the champ we wanted he was the champion the people wanted not muhammad no one wanted a coward and someone who wouldnt stand for his own country as the heavyweight champion of the world even my 79yr grandpa whos a veteran was confused on why he didnt serve in the war, ali is great but hes not the best out of everyone from no means, even cleveland said he was gonna be the champ the people wanted “ Me to be”
What’s his best wins?
his best is ernie terrel kayo,omilo agramote, alonzo johnson curly lee chapman which was a up and coming heavyweight who actually had a short but very GOOD record and cleveland williams beat him so bad to the point he even got lifted up off the ground from a uppercut but curly lee chapman had mental issues from his loss from cleveland and cleve ended his career,john holman,billy daniels twice ,theres abunch of others good wins he has go look but at his start of his career he fought ponce delon taylor which alot of fighters fought around that era and kayoed ponce delon ponce delon fought everybody
you got 7th round tko of Young jack johnson who beat ezard charles YJJ was a good contender, todd herring, king george moore was undefeated before facing cleveland williams and king george moore looked like a straight up beast
@@EwFatppl Yes indeed. I might add that Big Cat's fight with Eddie Machen which although was a draw was at a time when Machen was in peak condition and his prime. Sonny Liston got a controversial win over an "in shape" and prime Machen. Many believe Liston lost that fight.
@@matizaph in one of the picutures with cleve and machen it looks as if machen hits the canvas
Looks LIKE MIKE TYSON
u should see the pic of him with his gloves on with his trainers looking at the camera he litteraly looked like tyson sorrta
@@EwFatppl can u send it to me or post it?