I have never had a problem with anemones, but I think there’s something to be said for the “only for mature tanks” advice. I used to have an LPS heavy tank that I completely crashed when trying to treat dinos with hydrogen peroxide. I left it bare except for one lonely clown fish and a few rocks for six months. Eventually I got bored of looking at such a boring tank and threw a green bubble tip anemone in there - it flourished from day one. It got so big I had to give it away and replace it with a rainbow BTA - again, also flourished. For me they are just so easy, I never do any testing in my tank except for salinity. The clown is still in there and happy as hell😆
You got this! I’ve been lucky, all mine just like food thrown at them every couple of days and stay put. Oh, just a thought, have you previously or hav you considered trying a rock flower nem? Just to see if maybe there is some “unknown” nem killer?
You know, you are the third or fourth person to recommend this, and it's a great suggestion. I've never had one, but I think I may need to pick one up!
Again, a high quality video, I don't even know when those 17 minutes passed... I hope that the anemonies will get better very soon! Greetings from Poland! ^^
Tyler, you have no idea how much I appreciate your comment! I worked hard to make a whole bunch of cool shots and I’m super glad you recognized the work! Thank you!
Do you have Dino's by any chance (I saw brown and bubbles next to them)? When I had them, my nem seemed to have a really hard time and was shrinking. Once I increased the nutrients in the water and took care of the dino it fared much much better ! That's my experience, I don't know if it can help you, I know you already tried so much! Good luck, can't wait to see how the treatment goes!
@@MyFirstFishTank they appear when nutrients bottom out to zero which is also a sign that the biodiversity can be low (can't thrive so dino takes over). Since some dino is really toxic to fish and inverts I wouldnt be surprised if it affects nems too! Food for thought 🤷🏻♀️
I had 5 green bubble tips and once dinos got out of hand (till i realised its dinos) i lost all 5 slowly shrinking n vanishing...so i guess dinos is the killer
Hi Matthew do you have a schedule that you can share please for the AI prime light For the bubble tip anemone i’m having hard time to set the schedule I have a biocube 32 I just upgraded the light and purchase bubble tip at the same time so do you have any information can you help me with this I appreciate that thank you very much
I would personally treat all the btas as even if they aren’t all showing symptoms of bacterial infections, they could possibly still be carrying the bacteria. Then once you added the new BTA’s, the bacteria would still be present and infect the new nems. The way I see it, is if you’re doing the one, why not just do the others too to be safe. Just my 2C. Loving this series and hope all goes well!
Thanks Michael, appreciate your thoughts. Certainly not a bad suggestion. I’m going to be adding those new AI prime lights this week and pulling out that one nem for treatment. But I’ll watch the other nems to see how they do!
Oh, yes, I use a PAR meter. This is the one I use. www.bulkreefsupply.com/usb-smart-quantum-par-sensor-apogee.html It plugs into your computer and is a lot cheaper than the PAR meters that come with a controller.
hey i have some questions so i’m cycling my tank and my ammonia is at 0 but my nitrite it still pretty high should i get a damsel fish or should i just wait until nitrites hit 0?
I wait until my nitrite hits zero, but you could probably get away with a couple hardy fish. But if you e waited tbis long, then just wait until the nitrite goes down, then do a water change to lower the nitrates and then add the fish! Super exciting, your almost there!
Hi Fausto. I dose Red Sea Trace Colors (elements), and for some reason I also add coral food in the shape of Red Sea AB+. But that's it! Iodine is important I believe, but the nems get it from the trace colors.
Yeah, I had a friend tell me the same thing. I think I'll do that, but still probably not right for this tank. But, I did just order another AI prime light for the hospital tank, so that will be the one to use!
You know, i've just started targeting feeding the healthy ones, not the watermelon. Their tentacles aren't sticky at all, but I'm going to keep at it. Feeding some very small mysis shrimp mixed with reef roids.
I usually get my at chewy. Here' s a link. www.chewy.com/midland-vet-services-aqua-cipro-forte/dp/344726?Midland%20Vet%20Services&gclid=Cj0KCQiAraSPBhDuARIsAM3Js4qhjBYMXfXGzrrfmQrhnu_Rf0Hf3f4m0evgcMJtam5PgWXf8a1fpw4aAh6yEALw_wcB
I noticed that you have different kinds of BTA's. When I had 2 rose and 1 green anemone I noticed the green one would deflate throughout the week. It was a healthy anemone when I got it, from a good source. When I did a water change or changed out the carbon it would be great for a few days and then deflate again, had a gaping mouth. And the cycle would continue. Felt like the different BTA's would do chemical warfare. The green anemone kept moving around until I put it in its separate anemone box. I eventually had to give it away. Maybe that is the issue? The chemical warfare between the different anemones?
I’ve got some thoughts... from my past experiences, my nems tended to be unhappy when I used GFO in the water. Do you use GFO? They seem to be similar to lps. Medium to low flow medium to low light. They’ll move to where their happy. Is there some instability? Maybe Could benefit from adding some denitrifying bacteria. Also they seem to be unhappy when silicates and phosphates raise which can happen out of nowhere after a few months
Do you really think it’s a par issue? It’s funny you say that because remember me sayin I suck at nems.. well you inspired me to challenge myself along with your journey. Well 200 bucks later got me a really nice rose nem it’s been 2 weeks and I notice the nem instantly started moving towards the light so i increased my lighting on my xr30s nem is now staying in one place BUT tentacles are only half way extended not fully bloomed mouth seems fine .. Any ideas? Sorry for long message
Well I’m super glad you’ve been inspired and I have no idea as you can tell from my record. I still am working out these critters. It could be PAR, but I’m guessing spectrum plays a big roll too. That’s why I’m switching lights to something more common so I can test against others tanks. As of now the only thoughts I have are something to do with lighting spectrum and intensity, bacterial or fungal infections, or an NO3 PO4 issue. Although I did just get an email from somebody saying they had the same problems and then started using Red Sea Colors. I forget the name. He thinks that the iodine that’s a part of the dosing may have let infected nems fight off whatever bacteria’s were haunting them. So I’m also going to be giving it a shot!
@@MyFirstFishTank hmmm interesting I’ve used AB+ all that gave me is algae blooms. I stopped doin awhile ago only thing I have in the sumo are blocks of the sealab no.28 blocks I believe their called suppose to disperse calcium and any elements depleaded from the tank . Weird thing is top of my tank I wanna say my par is well above 200
I'm hope my little article helps you out. I figured Orion's method was phenomenal I had to share my experience with the Ritteri anemone. It was very positive and those larger anemones are much more touchy than BTAs. Oh BTW I have been using Maxspect Razors for years. They work fine with anemones. I am running my rebuilt Razor420 15000K on my Lowboy with BTA and Clams.
Hi Ellery, and thanks for leaving the comment. Your article was shown to me by a friend, and she has had success using it, so I'm excited to give it a try. I'm going to be pull the sick anemone out of the tank tomorrow and start the treatment. And you do use those Razors? Well, would you mind telling me your light schedule you use with them? And have you ever done PAR readings on your tank? Just curious! Thanks for writing that article by the way!
Possibly but it's a small amount. I've had dinos off and on in my tanks, but they are under control these days. No signs of death or disease with livestock. Think having it in the water column could be a part of the struggle?
tbh i dont have too much experience on anemones but ive found that ones that are found from the ocean, "not captive bred" die and fail to survive. i saw green bubble tip anemones at my lfs and they told me this. try to get captive bred ones, but don't spend money hahahaha
@@MyFirstFishTank I would just skip it all together. You’re going to be doing 100% water changes, so nothing too bad should build up. The filter just introduces an unknown as far as the dosage of the medication. Setup looks great! There’s also a video by “Purely Aquatic” who documents his journey treating a CSB nem with Cipro. It’s worth a watch.
I found it online. Let me find the link. www.valleyvet.com/ct_detail.html?pgguid=ff9635c5-e2d7-4020-9eac-7ae0210a8526&itemguid=1a69d19c-b6bc-4e37-8117-84e7f03c7891&sfb=1&grp=5000&grpc=5200&grpsc=5210&sp=p&ccd=IFP003&gclid=CjwKCAiAx8KQBhAGEiwAD3EiPzbD8JiXyLdJUWMs4YXX0FfQwToo4u28xeltUkgRslzBmVGK18OiTRoCHbAQAvD_BwE
Nems are touchy. Once sick if bacterial, it's a long haul. Blender up food and little bits. dont feed for awhile, if you feed, very bad. Try broadcast zoo plankton when their stomachs go back. Goodluck.
There are probably some, but not too many. I've battled them in all of my tanks and they do occasionally show up, but in really small amounts and don't seem to affect my snails or corals. But it would be interesting to see if they are somehow affecting the nems...
Could be, but I’ve struggled with established tanks too! What do you mean by established? Water parameters are stable, so curious what established means to you!
@@MyFirstFishTank when saying established I mean a gigantic amount of nitrifying bacteria 🦠 you when a tank gets bad sometimes it heals itself just leaving it alone it has all other things in that helps it thrive when a tank is two years old it should be well established water chemistry and everything should be good if not great I struggle with nems in the beginning also until I worked for the shed aquarium here in Chicago and from the pics I’ve seen I don’t think your tank is healthy enough to support nems
@@MyFirstFishTank the parameters they do matter but it’s just like this if your tank has been up and running for awhile it’s all good to keep nems in tank is like baby steps have to crawl before you can walk I have black widows rainbow rose and a couple of sunburst keeping nems aren’t hard at all just have to have a system that’s been up and running for awhile that can support it mature tanks make everything worth it
A quick shout out for the time, effort and skill that went into this video 👏👏👏
Thank you so much! I did spend a lot of time getting some cool shots, so thank you for noticing! Really, it’s super appreciated! 😁
I have never had a problem with anemones, but I think there’s something to be said for the “only for mature tanks” advice. I used to have an LPS heavy tank that I completely crashed when trying to treat dinos with hydrogen peroxide. I left it bare except for one lonely clown fish and a few rocks for six months. Eventually I got bored of looking at such a boring tank and threw a green bubble tip anemone in there - it flourished from day one. It got so big I had to give it away and replace it with a rainbow BTA - again, also flourished. For me they are just so easy, I never do any testing in my tank except for salinity. The clown is still in there and happy as hell😆
I’m anxious to see the process and the results. Fingers crossed for them to start thriving for you!
Thanks, I’m hopeful! I’m not giving up regardless! I will successfully keep anemones!
You got this! I’ve been lucky, all mine just like food thrown at them every couple of days and stay put. Oh, just a thought, have you previously or hav you considered trying a rock flower nem? Just to see if maybe there is some “unknown” nem killer?
You know, you are the third or fourth person to recommend this, and it's a great suggestion. I've never had one, but I think I may need to pick one up!
IMO they are a bit mor hardy, they have great colors and best part, they make babies who’s colors are random.
You're welcome! I hope they help!
Again, a high quality video, I don't even know when those 17 minutes passed... I hope that the anemonies will get better very soon! Greetings from Poland! ^^
Thanks, and hello from SoCal!
Mine has this problem but because I have a 10g pico DT i dont think I can do a 10g hospital. I have a fluval iii 2.6 laying around so i might try this
Would Erythromycin work as well? Specially the API brand?
Your video skills and production skills have really stepped up lately. Just sayin’. 😊
Tyler, you have no idea how much I appreciate your comment! I worked hard to make a whole bunch of cool shots and I’m super glad you recognized the work! Thank you!
Do you have Dino's by any chance (I saw brown and bubbles next to them)? When I had them, my nem seemed to have a really hard time and was shrinking. Once I increased the nutrients in the water and took care of the dino it fared much much better ! That's my experience, I don't know if it can help you, I know you already tried so much! Good luck, can't wait to see how the treatment goes!
You know, or really... but, they have been present in all my tanks to some extent... although not much lately.
@@MyFirstFishTank they appear when nutrients bottom out to zero which is also a sign that the biodiversity can be low (can't thrive so dino takes over). Since some dino is really toxic to fish and inverts I wouldnt be surprised if it affects nems too! Food for thought 🤷🏻♀️
@@naturaomkar definitely!
I had 5 green bubble tips and once dinos got out of hand (till i realised its dinos) i lost all 5 slowly shrinking n vanishing...so i guess dinos is the killer
I thought the same. Bubbles on the macro shots and brown on anemones.
Hi Matthew do you have a schedule that you can share please for the AI prime light For the bubble tip anemone i’m having hard time to set the schedule I have a biocube 32 I just upgraded the light and purchase bubble tip at the same time so do you have any information can you help me with this I appreciate that thank you very much
Any suggestions for good lighting?The evergrow that you have is a good option?
What are you trying to grow, how big is the tank, and what is your budget?
@@MyFirstFishTank
I was thinking of a mixed reef aquarium
I would personally treat all the btas as even if they aren’t all showing symptoms of bacterial infections, they could possibly still be carrying the bacteria. Then once you added the new BTA’s, the bacteria would still be present and infect the new nems. The way I see it, is if you’re doing the one, why not just do the others too to be safe. Just my 2C. Loving this series and hope all goes well!
Thanks Michael, appreciate your thoughts. Certainly not a bad suggestion. I’m going to be adding those new AI prime lights this week and pulling out that one nem for treatment. But I’ll watch the other nems to see how they do!
Hey Matthew, what parmeter do you use? Can you tell the model? Thanks from Brazil and good luck with the anemones!
Hi Marcos. Are you asking about the lights? Here are my general water parameters. Salinity 1.025, NO4 3-5, PO4 0.1,
@@MyFirstFishTank No, the equipment you use to check the PAR inside the tank. Isn´t it a "Par Meter"?
Oh, yes, I use a PAR meter. This is the one I use. www.bulkreefsupply.com/usb-smart-quantum-par-sensor-apogee.html It plugs into your computer and is a lot cheaper than the PAR meters that come with a controller.
hey i have some questions so i’m cycling my tank and my ammonia is at 0 but my nitrite it still pretty high should i get a damsel fish or should i just wait until nitrites hit 0?
No Definitely don't put a fish in your tank . You can wait or i would add brightwell aquatics microbacter the stuff work great
@@brianredban9393 already added the dosage
I wait until my nitrite hits zero, but you could probably get away with a couple hardy fish. But if you e waited tbis long, then just wait until the nitrite goes down, then do a water change to lower the nitrates and then add the fish! Super exciting, your almost there!
Hey Matthew 👋 I got a question do you dose anything in particular for the harem clownfish tank?
Hi Fausto. I dose Red Sea Trace Colors (elements), and for some reason I also add coral food in the shape of Red Sea AB+. But that's it! Iodine is important I believe, but the nems get it from the trace colors.
After you treat and change water do you treat next day for 5 days
Yep, exactly.
open and take the lens caps off the mars light will make the hot spots less ;) nice vid
Yeah, I had a friend tell me the same thing. I think I'll do that, but still probably not right for this tank. But, I did just order another AI prime light for the hospital tank, so that will be the one to use!
Do you target feed them? I feed mine every day a little. Sucks you have no luck with nems. Mine don’t stop growing.
You know, i've just started targeting feeding the healthy ones, not the watermelon. Their tentacles aren't sticky at all, but I'm going to keep at it. Feeding some very small mysis shrimp mixed with reef roids.
Mad videos skills! Great stuff 👏
Thank you 🙌
Where can I find this antibiotic(Ciprofloxacin)? I cant seem to find it in stock anywhere.
I usually get my at chewy. Here' s a link. www.chewy.com/midland-vet-services-aqua-cipro-forte/dp/344726?Midland%20Vet%20Services&gclid=Cj0KCQiAraSPBhDuARIsAM3Js4qhjBYMXfXGzrrfmQrhnu_Rf0Hf3f4m0evgcMJtam5PgWXf8a1fpw4aAh6yEALw_wcB
@@MyFirstFishTank Thanks, just placed my order hopefully this lil guy makes it.🤞
I noticed that you have different kinds of BTA's. When I had 2 rose and 1 green anemone I noticed the green one would deflate throughout the week. It was a healthy anemone when I got it, from a good source. When I did a water change or changed out the carbon it would be great for a few days and then deflate again, had a gaping mouth. And the cycle would continue. Felt like the different BTA's would do chemical warfare. The green anemone kept moving around until I put it in its separate anemone box. I eventually had to give it away. Maybe that is the issue? The chemical warfare between the different anemones?
That’s so interesting! I would have never thought that different types of bubble tips would do chemical warfare!
I’ve got some thoughts... from my past experiences, my nems tended to be unhappy when I used GFO in the water. Do you use GFO? They seem to be similar to lps. Medium to low flow medium to low light. They’ll move to where their happy.
Is there some instability? Maybe Could benefit from adding some denitrifying bacteria. Also they seem to be unhappy when silicates and phosphates raise which can happen out of nowhere after a few months
I do use GFO as necessary. Was having some PO4 spikes so run a small amount of gfo to keep the levels low but stable, around 0.1.
I am using a Maxspec Razor 420R on my 4" 80gal. I just put an anemone in it, we'll see how it goes.
You know, I've heard since making this video, that plenty of people have success with the Razor and anemones, so I'm hopeful for you!
great new information👍
Can I bring mine over and drop in basket 2?
Ha! Nope! Why would you ever want me to take care of your nem?!?! I'm terrible!!!
@@MyFirstFishTank 😂 because you might be on to something
Do you really think it’s a par issue? It’s funny you say that because remember me sayin I suck at nems.. well you inspired me to challenge myself along with your journey. Well 200 bucks later got me a really nice rose nem it’s been 2 weeks and I notice the nem instantly started moving towards the light so i increased my lighting on my xr30s nem is now staying in one place BUT tentacles are only half way extended not fully bloomed mouth seems fine .. Any ideas? Sorry for long message
Well I’m super glad you’ve been inspired and I have no idea as you can tell from my record. I still am working out these critters. It could be PAR, but I’m guessing spectrum plays a big roll too. That’s why I’m switching lights to something
more common so I can test against others tanks. As of now the only thoughts I have are something to do with lighting spectrum and intensity, bacterial or fungal infections, or an NO3 PO4 issue. Although I did just get an email from somebody saying they had the same problems and then started using Red Sea Colors. I forget the name. He thinks that the iodine that’s a part of the dosing may have let infected nems fight off whatever bacteria’s were haunting them. So I’m also going to be giving it a shot!
@@MyFirstFishTank hmmm interesting I’ve used AB+ all that gave me is algae blooms. I stopped doin awhile ago only thing I have in the sumo are blocks of the sealab no.28 blocks I believe their called suppose to disperse calcium and any elements depleaded from the tank . Weird thing is top of my tank I wanna say my par is well above 200
Casey Neistat would be proud! Nice vid!! Loving the new stuff.
Thanks Remy. Definitely Neistat inspired!
I feel lucky my BTs are alive and healthy. When I got them I was an absolute newb
Jealous!
I'm hope my little article helps you out. I figured Orion's method was phenomenal I had to share my experience with the Ritteri anemone. It was very positive and those larger anemones are much more touchy than BTAs. Oh BTW I have been using Maxspect Razors for years. They work fine with anemones. I am running my rebuilt Razor420 15000K on my Lowboy with BTA and Clams.
Hi Ellery, and thanks for leaving the comment. Your article was shown to me by a friend, and she has had success using it, so I'm excited to give it a try. I'm going to be pull the sick anemone out of the tank tomorrow and start the treatment. And you do use those Razors? Well, would you mind telling me your light schedule you use with them? And have you ever done PAR readings on your tank? Just curious! Thanks for writing that article by the way!
Mazel Tov!!! Sea Horses!! Woo Hoo 👏👏🌊🐎🐎🏇
yeah, super excited! I have a lot to learn before then though!
Do you have dino in that tank?
Possibly but it's a small amount. I've had dinos off and on in my tanks, but they are under control these days. No signs of death or disease with livestock. Think having it in the water column could be a part of the struggle?
tbh i dont have too much experience on anemones but ive found that ones that are found from the ocean, "not captive bred" die and fail to survive. i saw green bubble tip anemones at my lfs and they told me this. try to get captive bred ones, but don't spend money hahahaha
A good point for sure!
OrionN is the person to go to with nem issues. Minh pretty much pioneered everything. Btw, the filter might decrease the efficacy of the medication.
Got it. I was just planning on using the sponge portion. Do you think that would be alright?
@@MyFirstFishTank I would just skip it all together. You’re going to be doing 100% water changes, so nothing too bad should build up. The filter just introduces an unknown as far as the dosage of the medication. Setup looks great! There’s also a video by “Purely Aquatic” who documents his journey treating a CSB nem with Cipro. It’s worth a watch.
Soooo were an I get cipro
I found it online. Let me find the link. www.valleyvet.com/ct_detail.html?pgguid=ff9635c5-e2d7-4020-9eac-7ae0210a8526&itemguid=1a69d19c-b6bc-4e37-8117-84e7f03c7891&sfb=1&grp=5000&grpc=5200&grpsc=5210&sp=p&ccd=IFP003&gclid=CjwKCAiAx8KQBhAGEiwAD3EiPzbD8JiXyLdJUWMs4YXX0FfQwToo4u28xeltUkgRslzBmVGK18OiTRoCHbAQAvD_BwE
Matt pls come pick up the t5ho and slap the ai primes trust me nothing beats a t5 hybrid setup 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Alright, I forget where you live!
My First Fish Tank LA where the sun don’t stop shining !
Nems are touchy. Once sick if bacterial, it's a long haul. Blender up food and little bits. dont feed for awhile, if you feed, very bad. Try broadcast zoo plankton when their stomachs go back. Goodluck.
Thanks, I appreciate the tips and support!
It looks like you have dinoflagellates in your tank
There are probably some, but not too many. I've battled them in all of my tanks and they do occasionally show up, but in really small amounts and don't seem to affect my snails or corals. But it would be interesting to see if they are somehow affecting the nems...
Seems like he’s always having bad luck with nems it just may be his tank isn’t old enough and established
Could be, but I’ve struggled with established tanks too! What do you mean by established? Water parameters are stable, so curious what established means to you!
@@MyFirstFishTank when saying established I mean a gigantic amount of nitrifying bacteria 🦠 you when a tank gets bad sometimes it heals itself just leaving it alone it has all other things in that helps it thrive when a tank is two years old it should be well established water chemistry and everything should be good if not great I struggle with nems in the beginning also until I worked for the shed aquarium here in Chicago and from the pics I’ve seen I don’t think your tank is healthy enough to support nems
@@MyFirstFishTank the parameters they do matter but it’s just like this if your tank has been up and running for awhile it’s all good to keep nems in tank is like baby steps have to crawl before you can walk I have black widows rainbow rose and a couple of sunburst keeping nems aren’t hard at all just have to have a system that’s been up and running for awhile that can support it mature tanks make everything worth it
idk rick