Timestamps: 0:00-0:29 Intro 0:30-1:08 Independent Rear Suspension 1:08-1:49 Live Axle Rear Suspension 1:49-2:33 Floating Axle Rear Suspension 2:34-3:28 Leaf Rear Suspension 3:28-4:03 Portal Axle Rear Suspension 4:03-4:38 Tatra Rear Suspension 4:38-5:19 Multilink Front Suspension 5:19-6:14 Front Independent Suspension with Drive 6:14-6:57 Live Axle Front Suspension 6:57-7:44 Macpherson Strut Suspension 7:45-8:32 Portal Axle Front Suspension 8:32-8:45 End NOTE: Not all of the suspension designs are made by me. The Leaf Suspension design was based off of Nicjasno's design: th-cam.com/video/44lDKaWnSj0/w-d-xo.html&list=... The Macpherson Strut Suspension was also based off of Nicjasno's design: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eexxb... The MultiLink Suspension design was based off of Nicjano's video here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Omzcl... The Floating Axle and Tatra Suspension designs were based off of Sariel's Bricks & Pets
8:27 portal axle with unlockable diff doesnt make sense at all. It os meant for off roading so it is better to make it without diff than with diff that cant be locked.
Nice showing of suspension designs, but the dif lock has very little to do with suspension design. A dif lock can be made by only increasing the width of the differential by 1 gear, that should be possible to fit in most of these setups. If the increased width is not acceptable, the dif can be moved and a drive shaft per wheel can be used and depending on the design it could allow steering too.
These Technic-type parts and pieces were just being released during the latter part of my youth. I had to use rubber bands and ink pen springs for my suspension designs. There's no telling what I could have designed and built. This is awesome.
The new spring elements definitely give more freedom in suspension designs, but rubber bands are actually quite useful for suspension too, I even use them in my more recent projects.
Hi, very nice to see. What would be even more useful, although a lot of work for you, would be a companion Web site with the components listed for each assembly. Aficionados can recognise them by sight, I'm not so clever!
Awesome! I love seeing real suspension setups in Lego :D The last one, portal axel front suspension, it's very similar to the setup in the 8110. While it is a great one for offroad and a simple design. One big downside I've noticed was the negative caster angle, at higher speeds it becomes extremely unstable and there's a lot of stress on the steering components. Not criticism just an observation ^^ High speed test I did once when I ran my Unimog down the hallway- it violently veered off and crashed in an awesome way. XD
3:20 i once had the idea of using this 13 l curved technic panels as leaf springs because of their shape. i wonder if someone would build a doc with these
I have to visit this video later, when I start on my Car Chassis project: Front+rear suspension FWD/RWD/AWD diff-lock: front/rear/center/all gearbox: 1/2/3/4 remote control, using MindStorms hub Espessially the Macpherson Strut Suspension. But I have to look at the others too, if there are other things to use for inspiration.
I do like what you have here. I do wish the suspension system shown were a little more accurate to real cars, but with limitations comes sacrifices. Along with that, a lot of the things on here said no positive caster; every suspension system with steering has some form of caster. Even cars like Mercedes and Audi have caster specs even though when driving there is no caster.
Dude all your live axle suspensions (apart from the leaf springs one, obviously) have an exceeding degree of freedom: nothing there to react to lateral forces.. ever heard of Panhard rod? Appreciate the effort though
basically all your live axle designs miss a critial cross link. no wonder things get wobbly. i understand one can cheat one or more freedom grades away with suspension etc, but it's not how it works in reality. either there is a double link or a panhard rod. or both.
I've been working on an off road buggy since Sep 26. I'm trying to figure out a good suspension system, the current one is an independent front and the back is a pretty much a swing arm set-up like used on motorcycles. I'm working in a smaller scale than any of these set-ups tho.
I don't think that the live axle front suspension will work in practice since the pins in the shock absorbers have friction so it is very dependent so it's really hard for one side to move. I would also like to see them in practice being used
They are connected to the frame with non-friction pins, I used both the from and rear live axle suspension in this car: th-cam.com/video/auiATWyvsjk/w-d-xo.html
almost all of your axles had "no differential lock" as a con. I think it is stupid to say that this is a con, just because you decided not to add a diff lock. for most of them it is very easy to do so, especially on live axles.
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Timestamps:
0:00-0:29 Intro
0:30-1:08 Independent Rear Suspension
1:08-1:49 Live Axle Rear Suspension
1:49-2:33 Floating Axle Rear Suspension
2:34-3:28 Leaf Rear Suspension
3:28-4:03 Portal Axle Rear Suspension
4:03-4:38 Tatra Rear Suspension
4:38-5:19 Multilink Front Suspension
5:19-6:14 Front Independent Suspension with Drive
6:14-6:57 Live Axle Front Suspension
6:57-7:44 Macpherson Strut Suspension
7:45-8:32 Portal Axle Front Suspension
8:32-8:45 End
NOTE: Not all of the suspension designs are made by me.
The Leaf Suspension design was based off of Nicjasno's design: th-cam.com/video/44lDKaWnSj0/w-d-xo.html&list=...
The Macpherson Strut Suspension was also based off of Nicjasno's design: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eexxb...
The MultiLink Suspension design was based off of Nicjano's video here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Omzcl...
The Floating Axle and Tatra Suspension designs were based off of Sariel's Bricks & Pets
Nice video
8:27 portal axle with unlockable diff doesnt make sense at all. It os meant for off roading so it is better to make it without diff than with diff that cant be locked.
I have an idea. Make a fully independent suspension vehicle with portal axles and locking differentials. That's what GM did with the hummer.
can u get copy righted by lego?
Nice showing of suspension designs, but the dif lock has very little to do with suspension design.
A dif lock can be made by only increasing the width of the differential by 1 gear, that should be possible to fit in most of these setups.
If the increased width is not acceptable, the dif can be moved and a drive shaft per wheel can be used and depending on the design it could allow steering too.
I don't know why these listed a locking differential as a con. A differential isn't a suspension component.
Facts
The reason is that it's too thin for a lock and you need an lock for more heavy duty off-road terrain
This is, by far, the best technic suspension video I’ve ever seen. Bravo. Absolutely fantastic.
This is the video I've been waiting for! I love it. I like seeing different types of suspension.
Glad you liked it!
7:30 By the way, a very good idea for a lockable differantial without new special parts 👍
Such an old way to make your diff lockable, some people were using this method like 6 years ago...
@@jurekgadzinowski2895 If it ain't broke don't fix it
@@isaacwildflower214 If it ain't broken, we will fix it, until it is.
Thanks for the video, I really needed ideas for a Lego 4x4 truck front suspension
the lack of diff lock should only be a con on offroad vehicles. For road cars diff lock is not necessary at all.
Excellent tutorial with technical explanations. I like the emphasis on steering geometry - an often overlooked component of many MOCs!
These Technic-type parts and pieces were just being released during the latter part of my youth. I had to use rubber bands and ink pen springs for my suspension designs. There's no telling what I could have designed and built. This is awesome.
The new spring elements definitely give more freedom in suspension designs, but rubber bands are actually quite useful for suspension too, I even use them in my more recent projects.
How about torsion beams, push rods, pull rods, double wishbones?
2 of those suspension types remind me of the double wishbone suspension and 2 more of them remind me of an independent swing axle suspension
Классные решения! Рессоры из пластин, это вообще улёт. И макферсон тоже хорош.
Really nice job 😊
Great info in the video! I just wish there was some commentary so I could focus more on my Lego, and less staring at my phone.
Now I can build tea-bagging Lego GLS.
Thanks
Hi, very nice to see. What would be even more useful, although a lot of work for you, would be a companion Web site with the components listed for each assembly. Aficionados can recognise them by sight, I'm not so clever!
Awesome! I love seeing real suspension setups in Lego :D
The last one, portal axel front suspension, it's very similar to the setup in the 8110. While it is a great one for offroad and a simple design. One big downside I've noticed was the negative caster angle, at higher speeds it becomes extremely unstable and there's a lot of stress on the steering components.
Not criticism just an observation ^^
High speed test I did once when I ran my Unimog down the hallway- it violently veered off and crashed in an awesome way. XD
4:32 camber that changes is a feature that makes this suspension work very well when it comes to offroading. It is just meant for off road.
Thanks for all the cool information! That's a very valuable video to watch!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Are there instructions for those suspensions?
Definitely saw a couple of sariel’s designs... Nice work! ;)
The straight axles could use some triangulation
Loving the leaf suspension
Thank you so much for this video
3:20 i once had the idea of using this 13 l curved technic panels as leaf springs because of their shape. i wonder if someone would build a doc with these
No torsion bar?
Front Multilink was the coolest front susp.
Portal Rear was the coolest rear susp.
This is so cool!
Add a sway bar, it will stabilise from wiggling
Nice video
I have to visit this video later, when I start on my Car Chassis project:
Front+rear suspension
FWD/RWD/AWD
diff-lock: front/rear/center/all
gearbox: 1/2/3/4
remote control, using MindStorms hub
Espessially the Macpherson Strut Suspension.
But I have to look at the others too, if there are other things to use for inspiration.
This is sooo cool! Where did you buy your parts from?
Most of the time I get my parts from bricklink.com
2:52 leaf spring suspension cons: will brake if used frequently.
Watching the leaf spring suspension hurt me bc of how those plates bend
I do agree, but at the same time I appreciate the creativity. Close call between failure and success...
Isn't spring leaf Suspension illegal 😂⁉️🏴☠️
Nice Video, Thanks for Sharing 👍
I love your Channel, This is a very under rated channel! Please Continue with your videos They’re very Cool and can also learn from them!
Glad to hear that!
Can u pls show in strut on
I do like what you have here. I do wish the suspension system shown were a little more accurate to real cars, but with limitations comes sacrifices. Along with that, a lot of the things on here said no positive caster; every suspension system with steering has some form of caster. Even cars like Mercedes and Audi have caster specs even though when driving there is no caster.
is there a different way to build the front independent suspention with drive then in this video?
Dude all your live axle suspensions (apart from the leaf springs one, obviously) have an exceeding degree of freedom: nothing there to react to lateral forces.. ever heard of Panhard rod? Appreciate the effort though
Or the alternative: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watt%27s_linkage
Thank you for creating.
A Lego dynamo would have been cool to see for testing purposes.
Leaf spring made me wince a little.
Wether the diff is a locking diff or not has got nothing at all to do with suspension layout, it's a different subject.
Brilliant work!
where torsion bar suspension?
You forgot pengular suspension
I did not include it because it is typically not-sprung. However, it technically is still considered a suspension type.
@@redshoebox so do you consider the 42122 to be a spring type?
Great Work
Thank you!
super cool
basically all your live axle designs miss a critial cross link. no wonder things get wobbly. i understand one can cheat one or more freedom grades away with suspension etc, but it's not how it works in reality. either there is a double link or a panhard rod. or both.
good👍
I've been working on an off road buggy since Sep 26.
I'm trying to figure out a good suspension system, the current one is an independent front and the back is a pretty much a swing arm set-up like used on motorcycles.
I'm working in a smaller scale than any of these set-ups tho.
So, what exactly is the difference between the grey and the yellow suspensions?
The yellow suspension pieces are stiffer and tolerate more weight. then the grey ones.
@@redshoebox thanks👍😊
0:43 test suspention
Plisss tutorial 1 st front
Hey, nice video! So is there not really an option to have a diff lock and suspension in smaller models?
I'm sure it is possible, but it is much harder due to space restraints, especially when the lock is on the axle itself.
@@redshoebox you can just take the diff out and have it be locked, theres nothing forcing you to put a diff in any of the suspension types you built
2:03 this one is nearly copied out of serials book, nice to see it here
5:34 👌
I’ll pretend I know what that all means ;)
Good video to watch anyway
So smart
instructions please
You should build a portal axle land rover defen
0:30 guide how construct it?
where is the tatra fornt suspension :(
Is it a box for red shoes or a shoebox that is red?
I don't think that the live axle front suspension will work in practice since the pins in the shock absorbers have friction so it is very dependent so it's really hard for one side to move.
I would also like to see them in practice being used
They are connected to the frame with non-friction pins, I used both the from and rear live axle suspension in this car: th-cam.com/video/auiATWyvsjk/w-d-xo.html
I saw the Live axle rear suspension ant the ford f150 Raptor truck.
I want to build suspension #1
The way you did leaf wpring is huge no no. Illegal techniquithat WILL work harden / snap those parts
That went from 0 to 100 real quick
Yay wowowoeo
diff lock is not a component of suspension, and your "floating rear" axle is a canter-lever suspension not a floating axle
Where do you get all those technic pieces?
Bricklink.com
@@redshoebox Can i buy something from bricklink with different currencies?
You can actually have a locked rear axle
Plis tutorial guide suspension❤️❤️❤️
coollllll
almost all of your axles had "no differential lock" as a con. I think it is stupid to say that this is a con, just because you decided not to add a diff lock. for most of them it is very easy to do so, especially on live axles.
Bro is playing babft
No put them both together and make a cool RC car
Just one: Indepentend suspension.....change my mind
Сооl! Thanks
Пока смотрел уснул .
Me : just use 1 x 5 beam with light grey bracket
If you don’t show how to build each system this video is not useful
Hopefully the video gives enough angles for you to reverse engineer it. This video is more to display different designs then an instructional video.
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