Tatsächlich ein bisschen schon. Aber das BEAST scheint ein verdammt gutes Boot geworden zu sein. Bin ich zwar selbst noch nicht gefahren, habe aber viel Gutes darüber gehört.
Jackson from Poland sounds interesting!!!! this price is very good!!!! and probably the quality is going to be even better. because the Jackson plastic quality is abysmal what i hear. so i'm keen on seeing these! now they need to also make the all star 5. I really did like that boat.
Thank you very much for your comment. I was actually surprised to see Jackson boats made in Poland too. especially at this very good price. I'm curious whether they will also produce the current whitewater kayaks there. I'll definitely stick with it. Greets Norganic
@@norganic1972 looking forward to that development. although it is entirely plausible for them to have just shipped their old mold for the rockstar to poland, as they discontinued that boat in the US and hence have the mold available for free, while a the same time, preventing cannibalising their own newest product.
Absolutely. And we customers can look forward to the lower prices. If the quality is still right, that would be great. I'm excited to see what's to come next. Greetings Norganic
@@norganic1972 what do you mean "still" right? the quality for jackson playboats has been absolutely abysmally trash!!! for the last bit. i have personally talked to 2 people who had their cockpit rims rip off on the allstar V. plus when talking to team germany, they claim the are, on average, going through at least one jackson playboat every year because of durability. and i had the cockpit rim story repeated by multiple retailers who already have had that happen to a couple of allstar Vs they sold. this going together with stories of them just rushing boats into the cold straight from the mold and my personal experience with the durability of their creeboats makes for one terrible current state of quality over at jackson. standing alone is my 14 year old allstar 2010 which is still going strong. including all the outfitting and happy thruster system. (gotta admit though, the allstar 5 is a huge step up in terms of quality of design. paddled it lately and it paddles really nicely. and advanced moves like e.g. McNasty are much much easier to pull off.) (Jackson flow was also quite nice in on-water behaviour. (but the bulk-head system is still a lethal trap in any piton situation. only acceptable with a foam block mod.)) so, great design! but terrible plastics quality. they need to publicly acknowledge their production problems and communicate how they are going to remedy them and commit to it.
Es soll tatsächlich Menschen (also Paddler) geben die Ihn nicht kennen. Nun hab ich wohl einen davon gefunden. HaHaHaHa. Danke für deinen Kommentar, Nico. Ganz arg liebe Grüsse
Danke dir Jochen. Freut mich sehr wenn dir mein Zusammenschnitt gefällt. War auch ne super Messe. Hat mich gefreut dich dort zu treffen. LG schreibt der Norganic 🙂
Schöner Bericht von der diesjährigen Messe 😊
Danke dir. Freut mich sehr wenn dir mein Bericht von der Messe gefällt. Liebe Grüße Marco
Prijons sehen einfach immer so aus als währen sie direkt aus den 90ern
Tatsächlich ein bisschen schon. Aber das BEAST scheint ein verdammt gutes Boot geworden zu sein. Bin ich zwar selbst noch nicht gefahren, habe aber viel Gutes darüber gehört.
Jackson from Poland sounds interesting!!!! this price is very good!!!! and probably the quality is going to be even better. because the Jackson plastic quality is abysmal what i hear. so i'm keen on seeing these! now they need to also make the all star 5. I really did like that boat.
Thank you very much for your comment. I was actually surprised to see Jackson boats made in Poland too. especially at this very good price. I'm curious whether they will also produce the current whitewater kayaks there. I'll definitely stick with it. Greets Norganic
@@norganic1972 looking forward to that development. although it is entirely plausible for them to have just shipped their old mold for the rockstar to poland, as they discontinued that boat in the US and hence have the mold available for free, while a the same time, preventing cannibalising their own newest product.
Absolutely. And we customers can look forward to the lower prices. If the quality is still right, that would be great. I'm excited to see what's to come next. Greetings Norganic
@@norganic1972 what do you mean "still" right?
the quality for jackson playboats has been absolutely abysmally trash!!! for the last bit.
i have personally talked to 2 people who had their cockpit rims rip off on the allstar V. plus when talking to team germany, they claim the are, on average, going through at least one jackson playboat every year because of durability.
and i had the cockpit rim story repeated by multiple retailers who already have had that happen to a couple of allstar Vs they sold.
this going together with stories of them just rushing boats into the cold straight from the mold and my personal experience with the durability of their creeboats makes for one terrible current state of quality over at jackson.
standing alone is my 14 year old allstar 2010 which is still going strong. including all the outfitting and happy thruster system. (gotta admit though, the allstar 5 is a huge step up in terms of quality of design. paddled it lately and it paddles really nicely. and advanced moves like e.g. McNasty are much much easier to pull off.)
(Jackson flow was also quite nice in on-water behaviour. (but the bulk-head system is still a lethal trap in any piton situation. only acceptable with a foam block mod.))
so, great design! but terrible plastics quality.
they need to publicly acknowledge their production problems and communicate how they are going to remedy them and commit to it.
Gruss aus den Vorderrhein 😊 Jergus
❤Super! 👍
Danke dir mein Gudder
Hans Mayer? Nie von ihm gehört :D
Es soll tatsächlich Menschen (also Paddler) geben die Ihn nicht kennen. Nun hab ich wohl einen davon gefunden. HaHaHaHa. Danke für deinen Kommentar, Nico. Ganz arg liebe Grüsse
... erster🤟marco sehr, sehr geil... Grüße Jochen
Danke dir Jochen. Freut mich sehr wenn dir mein Zusammenschnitt gefällt. War auch ne super Messe. Hat mich gefreut dich dort zu treffen. LG schreibt der Norganic 🙂