What was Food Like in Ancient Japan?

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  • @Zephyr503
    @Zephyr503 2 ปีที่แล้ว +230

    As I recall, in Seven Samurai it was a plot point that the ronin were paid in rice while the peasants subsisted on millet.

    • @suzannepottsshorts
      @suzannepottsshorts 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      But you can't just eat millet or you lose your night vision.

    • @jamesfrankiewicz5768
      @jamesfrankiewicz5768 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Also, recall the wild and sloppy samurai character with the oversized sword (who was born a peasant)... when the villages complained they couldn't afford to pay the group of seven samurai and would starve to death if they gave up their rice, his character started ratting out the villagers about all the other crops they typically grow and all the typical sorts of places the would grow these out of sight of their feudal lords.

    • @missanne2908
      @missanne2908 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@suzannepottsshorts The peasants had brought supplies of rice and millet with them to a city, where they were temporarily staying to seek out the services of samurai. It didn't necessarily represent the diet they had in their own village.

    • @PC_Simo
      @PC_Simo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@suzannepottsshorts So, not very much vitamin A in millet, then.

    • @badwolf7367
      @badwolf7367 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      There are many sources of carbohydrates in Japan and it is not just from rice, millets or wheat. For example, there is Japanese mountain yams (Yamaimo). And all the nuts and seeds mentioned by Metatron can be grounded and the flour used for making buns or porridge-like dish.

  • @marcello7781
    @marcello7781 2 ปีที่แล้ว +220

    I remember reading James Clavell's novel "Shogun" many years ago and realizing how important was rice to the point it was a sort of value and a way to measure the power of a landlord.

    • @birgittabirgersdatter8082
      @birgittabirgersdatter8082 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Coincidentally, I was just discussing this book with my mother yesterday. She hadn’t read it but my father and I did many years ago. I did not like the Richard Chamberlain tv miniseries version.

    • @nathanieltillman2355
      @nathanieltillman2355 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@birgittabirgersdatter8082 No, It missed many of the key points that really made the book stand out. I have been living and traveling around the world since 2005. Shogun is one of 2 books I keep with me that is not in digital form.

    • @malevolent7650
      @malevolent7650 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      That's immediately what came to my mind when watching this video too. I don't know how historically accurate it is, but it's a very good read.

    • @vonmeier
      @vonmeier 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Great, great novel indeed.

    • @kaltaron1284
      @kaltaron1284 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes, retainers wer paid in rice stipends. Which caused quite a few problems towards the end of the Edo Period.
      I've seen a table in a Japanese castle that showed how the rice worth of the Daimyou changed after the Battle of Sekigahara. Let's just say that there were clear winners and losers.

  • @praevasc4299
    @praevasc4299 2 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    It makes a lot of sense. Even purely logically, as Japan has lots of mountains, and rice is not suitable for very high altitudes, one should imagine that there were other crops in Japan besides rice.

    • @angelocarantino4803
      @angelocarantino4803 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Well you can terrace mountains like they did in china and other Asian countries, which allows you to use alot of their area for rice and also simplifies the flooding of the paddies.

    • @akaroth7542
      @akaroth7542 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Eating a lot of rice is a more modern thing. Easier to grow grains like millet were staples.

  • @LyneaFlynn
    @LyneaFlynn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I do appreciate the inclusion of multiple translations in the grain segment, as these are pretty uncommon words to learn and it makes it easier to follow along for people who are not the types to look up the unknown on the fly!

  • @cannellofglory6968
    @cannellofglory6968 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Jason Kingsley's series on medieval food was amazing. I wonder how much it would differ from area to area. Even today, food varies a lot from country to country, and throughout the medieval period, Europe was perceived as much larger than today. Even though people did travel, it was not nearly as easy, and would have been a special event, not a recurring yearly event. Could be a cool video idea, to explore the difference in food from place to place.

  • @fuckgoogle2554
    @fuckgoogle2554 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Also of interest is the beriberi issue of the late 19th and early 20th centuries. As Japan became more affluent, some people started eating mostly white rice (a prestige food) and ended up developing deficiencies. Hinting at a more varied diet among the poorer classes in the past.

    • @markhorton3994
      @markhorton3994 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I don't remember the details but I saw a video that the modern Japanese navy had a problem with an all rice diet. This despite their WWII experience.

    • @mikew8214
      @mikew8214 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I was about to bring this up. Troops and sailors didn't even want meat and fish... They just wanted white rice. Got rice and barley and weren't very happy. Really shows you how they changed

    • @emmitstewart1921
      @emmitstewart1921 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@markhorton3994 This was why, prior to WWII the Japanese were known as a race of very short people. After the war, with extensive foreign trade leading to a better diet, the next generation grew 15 to 24inches taller on the average and were considered giants by their elders.

    • @smallpenis266
      @smallpenis266 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@emmitstewart1921 uh the average height of a Japanese male today is like 5 10 Maybe 5 11 if they grey 15 inches that would mean they were on average 4 foot 7 which iirc the the Japan in the 1940s atleast was like 5 5 for a make unless your talking about before that then idk but i highly doubt that

  • @froggystyle642
    @froggystyle642 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I am spending my Saturday afternoon enjoying a video about historical grain consumption in a country I have never been to, by an Italian in a Kabuto. I love it.

  • @Sangtrone
    @Sangtrone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    The different varieties of millet were a surprise to me, but everything else seemed somewhat obvious if you're at all familiar with Japanese cuisine. Barley tea, Soba (buckwheat), Soy Sauce (soybeans and wheat) are all staples.
    The real mystery is how the hell the Japanese stumbled upon the preparation for katsuobushi. Boiled, smoked a dozen or more times, then fermented and dried three times. Reminds me of the crazy stuff we do to ham in the US.

    • @sirapple2406
      @sirapple2406 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Probably by accident, the way you described it it sounds like it was probably put in the smoker, then forgotten about, then it would’ve been smoked a bunch more times as other things would’ve been put in it and then again forgotten about until one resident happened upon it.

  • @baronvonboomboom4349
    @baronvonboomboom4349 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Another amazing video Raff. I can see and appreciate all of your hard research.

  • @_..____
    @_..____ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm glad you added a few translations for the cereals. A very interesting and captivating presentation.

  • @ancientsitesgirl
    @ancientsitesgirl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Always a lot of knowledge and humor. Very cool channel, greetings! ✌

  • @cadethumann8605
    @cadethumann8605 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Hey, Metatron. I remember in The Shogunate's video about samurai loyalty where he says one former of loyalty was to the people (such as eating the same food as the peasants in times of war). I'd be interested in hearing your take.

  • @roleplay6870
    @roleplay6870 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    History of food is so fascinating, keep up the great content!

  • @sevenproxies4255
    @sevenproxies4255 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Isn't this a common problem with terms like "stone age", "bronze age" and "iron age" as well?
    Seeing as how different parts of the world entered these ages culturally at different points in time.

    • @mdjey2
      @mdjey2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think there is even a problem for terms like medieval. I know videos that talk about technological achievements in medieval period and mentions something from middle east or China.

    • @matthewiskra771
      @matthewiskra771 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Those terms especially don't apply to sub-Saharan Africa, as most metallurgy went from stone, copper, and then straight to iron. Most skipped arsenic-copper and bronze ages that Europe experienced.

    • @Ninjaananas
      @Ninjaananas 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Historical periods usually are also to be understood in a cultural context.

  • @theromanorder
    @theromanorder 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks to you for all the knowledge you have given me over the years i have resontly started retreving roman armor and equipment thanks to you its been esay plus i have been able to teach people alot of things.

  • @markhorton3994
    @markhorton3994 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    You mentioned various grains. A Japanese restaurant I used to frequent had four kinds of noodles. A few dishes used rice noodles. Most noodle dishes had a choice of Ramen, Udan (thick and pasry white) and Soba (buckwheat). Anyone who didn't specify got ramen. I got a kick out of ordering "Soba Yakisoba".
    In the same restaurant someone there asked an elderly Korean woman, also a customer, for a recommendation. Instead of thinking that someone just wanted advice from a regular customer she was offended at being mistaken for Japanese and screamed at him for about five minutes. That is how much hate the Japanese occupation of Korea generated.

    • @axelNodvon2047
      @axelNodvon2047 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Why is she angry for being mistaken for Japanese when she’s in Japan (im assuming)?

    • @markhorton3994
      @markhorton3994 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@axelNodvon2047 She was old enough to have survived the Japanese occupation of Korea. ALL Koreans who survived that had very bad opinions of the Japanese. Almost every woman was raped at least once and everyone lost someone they cared about.
      The restaurant was in California. It had quite affordable prices. The Korean restaurant a few blocks away was expensive. I have no real idea why a woman with her feelings was eating in a Japanese restaurant.

    • @axelNodvon2047
      @axelNodvon2047 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@markhorton3994 Yea its weird she would be in a Japanese restaurant and be offended

    • @markhorton3994
      @markhorton3994 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@axelNodvon2047 I have never figured it out either. I don't even think the customer asking assumed anything more than that the lady had eaten there before and knew something about what was good.

    • @saber2802
      @saber2802 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@markhorton3994 Kind of, at least to me, seems like she was waiting for that to happen just so she can be mad about it-

  • @emmitstewart1921
    @emmitstewart1921 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I am remembering a scene in 7 Samurai. The farmers in the village had made a deal with the 7 heroes that they would feed them and in return the heroes would defend the village against a bandit gang. In this scene, one of the samurai points out that the villagers were feeding the samurai rice, while eating millet themselves. One samurai says that he had tried living on millet once and it was awful. The villagers were also shown harvesting barley.
    This movie was made in the 20th century, looking back on then end of the 16th, but it shows that while rice was a preferred food, millet and barley were also available and would be eaten in hard times.

    • @Intranetusa
      @Intranetusa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I eat millet and like it. It's healthier and has a nutty flavor. It does seem to be harder to cook as it is easier to burn and dry out since the grains are much smaller.

    • @zrethor
      @zrethor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@XCodes The nutritional values between different types of grain products vary pretty wildly. Also I'm not sure what your comment about starch has anything to do with nutrition.

    • @zrethor
      @zrethor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@XCodes So I'm not really knowledgeable about this nor do I particularly care all too much but honestly IMO your argument seems pretty fueled and opinionated, considering your making assumptions about my lifestyle based off of no information. I'm pretty sure the size of the grain is also irrelevant, also kind of a silly way to measure food in general, correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure everything is measured to the same value so what does it matter if millet is physically larger or smaller. I also do not pertain to know what is healthier or not, millet or grain, but following your own statements having a better overall diet, is getting more out of food for the amount you consume not improving your overall diet? Like if I had two water pumps clearly the one that gets more water for the same amount of effort is the better pump.
      I myself eat rice and bread, because that's what I grew up on, but from my understanding millet should be cheaper than rice as well so I am also confused about that as well.

    • @Intranetusa
      @Intranetusa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@XCodes Many grains such as wheat and rice have their bran removed during processing into white rice and white wheat flour, so they lose the oily fiberous part on the outside. Millet grains are often too small to have their bran removed economically, so the bran is generally kept on and it remains a whole grain. As for nutritional value, while the Calorie content is roughly similar for most grains, different grains do have some not-insignificant differences in other nutrients. For example, 100 grams of dry millet has around1.4x-1.5x the protein content of 100 grams of whole grain brown rice. There are some differences in minerals (eg. potassium, zinc, etc) as well. Whole winter wheat has something like 50%+ more zinc per 100g than 100g of millet or rice. Wet rice agriculture also absorbs different types and levels of minerals compared to dry rice agriculture.

    • @adolfhipsteryolocaust3443
      @adolfhipsteryolocaust3443 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Intranetusa well you are not gonna digest those proteins so

  • @zmishiymishi5349
    @zmishiymishi5349 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:05 Thank you for not being ignorant, unlike many historians

  • @ThePhantomSquee
    @ThePhantomSquee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really enjoy seeing your videos on food, even moreso than the weapons and warfare ones. Here's hoping for more of these in the future!

  • @amtgardjean
    @amtgardjean 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As someone who is a huge fan of Asian history videos like these are crazily interesting to me. Never miss a video from you Metatron. Keep up the education of the masses.

  • @Chocobeeeee
    @Chocobeeeee ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a Japanese person I am happy you done a video on this!

  • @rachdarastrix5251
    @rachdarastrix5251 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    3 minuets in an you are making me imagine a Samuria Caveman walking into a swamp and plucking some grains from the wild grass and eating the first dish of rice.

    • @mpetersen6
      @mpetersen6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Just the term Samurai Caveman has me thinking of John Belushi. I know I'm showing my age.

  • @neoteraflare
    @neoteraflare 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A little story about rice in japan:
    As you mentioned the common people eat brown rice and white rice was for the upper class. But white rice without the outer brown layer lacks B1 vitamin and caused a sickness called kakke or beriberi among the rich people but not amongst the commoners who could only eat brown ones. They did not know what was causing this. Some guessed the problem was Edo since when they left they got better (white rice was less available outside Edo) When later they could industrialize the whitening of rice and make it available to more people the sickness spread really fast and was a big problem in the navy since they brought white rice to their voyages since it was going bad slower. Later a doctor named Takaki Kanehiro who was learing western medicine found out it it must be the food that causes this, since westerners did not had this problem so he managed to do an experiment to follow the exact route of a previous ship that had horrible beriberi result but instead of white rice he took bread and meat (since he thought the problem was protein deficiency). The experiment was success. Only those who did not follow the diet got the sickness. But meat was expensive so he replaced them with barley which is rich in protein (and also with the real reason B1 vitamin). This eliminated beriberi from the navy. Altough int the army doctors opposed him and stayed with the white rice for a while, but in the end they also gave in.

  • @mdjey2
    @mdjey2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I actually like this stuff when we get to know more about everyday stuff like food, clothing, construction and craftsmanship. Shadiversity video about barrels enjoyed very much.

  • @jankramolis8658
    @jankramolis8658 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice video on this underrated topic :))

  • @pointynoodle
    @pointynoodle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The dramatic boom with “rice” kills me every time

  • @matthewmann8969
    @matthewmann8969 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Sushi, Shashimi, Teriyaki, Ramen, Wasabi, And Ginger yeah

  • @ArchFiendAF
    @ArchFiendAF 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i could watch a thousand videos on ancient japan, especially with regard to the lifestyle, food, clothing, culture, and sociaty of all classes within japan. this is a period of history which is difficult to get a holistic understanding of from main stream media sources. most people who think about japan dont even realize hokkaido wasent even part of the japanese empire.
    good stuff, would love to see more.

  • @Groddon
    @Groddon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Literally wondering this yesterday evening.

  • @ななき-l8d
    @ななき-l8d 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You even added french translation for each, thank you very much for this video. お疲れ様です。

  • @SafetyBriefer
    @SafetyBriefer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent research.

  • @NathanaelTheAussie
    @NathanaelTheAussie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    We were literally just researching and talking about this very topic in our Azuchi-Momoyama living history group. We have also been researching and trying to apply our research in our historical reenactment in all culinary areas, including grains, meet, vegetables, and beverages. When I saw your video I very rarely click on a video that fast XD so great you have made this video!
    We hear about rice being eaten by the military on numerous occasions, including the ashigaru. Logistical documents refer to rice being rationed, and one of Tokugawa Ieyasu's orders he gives to his men in order to soften rice when they are unable to cook due to damp wood (soak the 'RICE' in water for multiple hours before consumption). However, there is still evidence that shows other grains being eaten as well (as you posit here). This led us to further our research on this to try and figure out the use of different grains and the reasons behind it.
    Two of articles we have been looking at explain the results of their research below:
    Verschuer and Cobcroft (2016) actually have this area as one of their research specialities (history of grains and cereals in Japan).
    They specifically challenge the notion that rice was the only grain eaten in Japan for millennia. However, they do this simply by stating there were other grains as well as rice. In addition,
    Tomasaburo (2016) adds:
    "In the past, Japanese barnyard millet was important in Japan as the staple food crop in districts where soil, weather conditions and irrigation systems were not suitable for paddy rice cultivation. When the rice crop suffered serious cool weather damage, the millet relieved people from starvation, especially in northeastern Japan. "
    All in all, the academic articles we have read so far seem to agree on the following:
    1) Almost everyone thinks rice was the sole staple for everyone but this is not actually true, particularly for before the 17th century.
    2) Other grains were eaten as well as rice.
    3) Rice and other grains were used to supplement each other depending on the climate and what was easiest to grow. Specifically, if rice is not viable, then food is mostly to be found in other grains like millet, buckwheat, barely, etc.
    However, none of them have said so far that because rice was used in taxes that it was not commonly eaten. Would love to hear your thoughts on these, and many thanks for the info and sources, mate :) (Video has been liked, as always)

  • @rogerlacaille3148
    @rogerlacaille3148 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ohhh this was Brilliant!! Thank you Maestro, I hope that this will be a Long series 🙂

  • @scrappydoo7887
    @scrappydoo7887 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is something that I have been curious about for some time but didn't really know where to go for good information.
    Thank you Metatron 👍

  • @sststr
    @sststr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Lotus roots are actually pretty good. Although I've only had them in Chinese cuisine, it never occurred me the Japanese also used them. Indeed, in the US, Japanese cuisine is pretty much presented as sushi and kobe beef and not much else. Which is odd, given the number of American soldiers who took Japanese brides during the occupation of Japan following WW2, so you'd think they would have brought back to the States more than just two dishes...

    • @eochaidhoghachruithne
      @eochaidhoghachruithne 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      American soldiers were/are America/European. That explains it.

    • @the_beak9238
      @the_beak9238 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Probably because Sushi/kobe beef are the best Japanese food to American tastes.

    • @timesthree5757
      @timesthree5757 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No the real reason is asain culture. Until recently when a woman married a man she became a part of his family. Part of that was letting go of her former culture- all of it.
      Most of what we see was bought over with imagrents.

    • @theamericankaiser4549
      @theamericankaiser4549 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      As an American who lived in Japan with his American family who was the only one that wanted to eat the most exotic or typical foods that Japanese would eat that Americans would run from I would say it's a confront issue. The US is an extremely diverse society with little to no normality. Even the most white dominant parts of the US are still diverse from various European groups and the strong sense of state loyalty. We tend to find things that give us a sense of home or familiarity when overwhelmed in a society vastly different than our home town. Which is why Mexican food has different quality in different states, it's adjusted according to the citizens are more comfortable with than true to its name. Which is sad because I loved octopus in Japan and wish we offered it more in the US

    • @timesthree5757
      @timesthree5757 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@theamericankaiser4549 It's not sad. Like the Japanese my fellow Arkansans love our State and our culture. We want experience our culture, pass it to the next generation, and share it with the world. It is actually very beautiful. Im a home grown hillbilly of the Ouachitas mountains and proud of it.

  • @noblekitten336
    @noblekitten336 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just found your channel today. I've been binging your videos. These are wonderful presentations.

  • @gojulas2009
    @gojulas2009 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It would be interested to see you making a content about japan’s history with onsen ♨️. I think watching this video was interesting and well crafted.

    • @chengkuoklee5734
      @chengkuoklee5734 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He could relate it with Roman bath house.

  • @KnightsWithoutATable
    @KnightsWithoutATable 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just walking around my place, eating rice in fully functional and historically accurate Samurai armor.

  • @kromulues
    @kromulues 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have to say that of all the youtube history community, I truly appreciate your videos the most :D

  • @huntclanhunt9697
    @huntclanhunt9697 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Funny that rice is the only one depicted, yet samurai dueling in a wheat/grain field is a popular trope.

  • @karliikaiser3800
    @karliikaiser3800 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Neolithic area just means for me when people started to settle down, this may vary hugely across the globe. So it is less about a time and more about a cultural event in given society.

  • @yamikami13
    @yamikami13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh man the next video never came. Cuz i really want to find a nice video as an example to show to a friend that for a large period of time Japanese society had a ban on meat. But apparently this knowledge is so trivial that no one had done a video about it.

  • @Passolargo_Junior
    @Passolargo_Junior 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aaahhh, yes. That's why I love this channel. Loads of links in the description, the way I like it! Keep up the good work my good sir!

  • @Perceval777
    @Perceval777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Most of the commoners and even most of the low rank samurai until the Edo period ate brown rice. Brown rice was so associated with low status and poverty that the Japanese got rid of it during the 20th century almost entirely and all started eating white rice, even though it's just carbs with no minerals and vitamins. When I lived in Japan I couldn't find any brown rice at the supermarkets.

    • @AnotherDuck
      @AnotherDuck 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's pretty much the same in Europe for grains, although not quite to the same extent. Commoners ate whole grains while the nobles ate more processed grains. Whole grains only really became more popular with the modern health awareness. Although that might just be my perception of it.

    • @MK_ULTRA420
      @MK_ULTRA420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Brown rice just has extra bran, which is trace elements bound to insoluble fiber. White rice is better as a staple food since the body can extract more calories from it, even if it can cause diabetes when eaten too much. White rice also requires less fuel to cook which was scarce in Japan up until the late 20th century.
      In East Asia nowadays, brown rice is usually eaten by old people to treat constipation.

    • @MrAsaqe
      @MrAsaqe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also thank the rice lobby for it, the agricultural lobbies would rather plant white rice vs brown rice because of the sheer prestige of the rice industry

  • @thewrathofcorn5117
    @thewrathofcorn5117 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Incredible video as always metatron

  • @dragonofhatefulretribution9041
    @dragonofhatefulretribution9041 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nothing like an informative and relaxing video exploring Japanese culture from the Metatron before bed👌🏻

  • @Cato229
    @Cato229 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A whole food series? Awesome!

  • @maincoon6602
    @maincoon6602 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I very much enjoy your videos. Great information 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻.

  • @thunderchild8548
    @thunderchild8548 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Right right at the end I was struggling to figure out how big all of this actually is until you said miles thanks for the help Metatron

  • @MBMEMDDD
    @MBMEMDDD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now this is that real good shit I subbed for. I know how commoners lived in so many different ancient cultures from their daily habits down to the foundations of their buildings but next to nothing about anything like this on Japan

  • @innovativeatavist159
    @innovativeatavist159 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh this is fantastic! I live for the well researched historical content. Very cool! I'll come back to this year after year to keep it fresh in my brain.
    Also liking and commenting on this hoping the algorithm likes it and our angelic host is rewarded for his hard work.

  • @Dominator046
    @Dominator046 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved this topic! Keep going!

  • @caseymauldin8396
    @caseymauldin8396 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was Awesome. Thanks Metatron

  • @NemisCassander
    @NemisCassander 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey, Metatron... something we share in common is apparently a degree in Japanese Language and Culture. Awesome. :) I can say in my studies we were taught that rice was not a _staple_ of Japanese diet until after the Meiji Restoration (maybe the Edo period), and it was, at least to the common folk, more used ceremonially than as a daily food item. I think a number I vaguely recall is something like 40% or something like that was the rice consumption. So definitely in the same general area you describe.

  • @laser8389
    @laser8389 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Plenty of fantastic info here! One bit that really got me, though, was when you showed vinyl records as you talked about tax records ;)

  • @ardypangihutan3653
    @ardypangihutan3653 ปีที่แล้ว

    quality content that made me much more grateful with corn and flour stocks in my home

  • @mliittsc63
    @mliittsc63 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nitpicking clarity note: slash and burn need not cut down the trees, and before metal tools probably didn't. You just have to kill the tree by "ringing (slashing)" it with a continuous cut around the circumference of the trunk through the bark and the phloem layer immediately beneath. This prevents the tree from distributing nutrients between the leaves (needles) and the roots, and is much easier than cutting through the whole tree with stone tools. If you kill the tree, it doesn't grow leaves (needles), thus allowing sunlight to reach your crops. However, you can't really plow this newly cleared ground because of the roots, so your "field" tends to look more like a garden and can be hard to recognize as a place for growing crops. This makes it easy to conceal, and hard to tax. If a peasant farmer were to leave a few meters of uncut forest between a road and the field, a tax collector is not going to see it. This of course also makes it difficult for historians to see it, as they depend on documentation written by the same class of people as the tax collectors. This type of cultivation (technically horticulture rather than agriculture) is also almost impossible to recognize archaeologically. The only reason (we think) we know it happened is because it still happens today, though often in the context of illegal, non-food crops.
    Coming up with a specific number for non-rice cultivation given the nature of slash and burn is impossible, and the importance of these crops would differ depending on region.

  • @emilioi.valdez6680
    @emilioi.valdez6680 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Hey Metatron, I'm not sure if you're interested in stories and myths but think you can do a video on legendary swords from Europe and Japan? Mostly because I enjoy stories and your channel, and I think you might be interested.

    • @ezrafaulk3076
      @ezrafaulk3076 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It *would* be cool to see someone with a decently big viewership tell people about Kusanagi-no-Tsurugi, *especially* since it could lead into a video on the Tsurugi, the double-edged straight sword that's the most *significant* sword type in Japan that's ironically very *obscure outside* Japan, overshadowed by the much *less* significant in Japanese culture that's pretty much *worshipped outside* Japan; I'd *love* to see the Tsurugi get the attention outside Japan that it *deserves* .

    • @thepokemontrainer6094
      @thepokemontrainer6094 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I highly suggest you read these books made by Matthew Meyers, the first book called the night parade of a hundred demons is the first one you should start with. It’s an encyclopedia of Japanese mythology but even its still good.

  • @countOfHenneberg
    @countOfHenneberg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Towards the end of the video, when you were talking about the different measures, I found most interesting. Are these measures still used or have they fallen into disuse? I'd guess, in the UK, much like the rod and chain measures are little used now. If my memory serves, an acre is a furlong by a chain; so not a "square" measurement. 640 acres to the square mile.

    • @tripple-a6031
      @tripple-a6031 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Japan uses the metric system almost all the time. There are some crafts that still use the old ones, mainly carpenters as far as I know.
      The most common things that still use old units are sake (usually sold in 720ml bottles, ≈ 4 gō) and room sizes in tatami mats which is a whole can of worms on its own.

  • @yokai333
    @yokai333 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep up the good work

  • @JinnKyu-dt1hk
    @JinnKyu-dt1hk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This Video is perfect for my New larp group^^

  • @ramenjoa6790
    @ramenjoa6790 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A bow of brown rice(mixed with multi-grains and mushrooms or sweet potatoes), pickled radish, dried sardine, ground yam, and miso soup.

  • @corinnepmorrison1854
    @corinnepmorrison1854 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really like rice!! You can create so many recipes...meals using rice... I do however, struggle when using chopsticks!!

  • @Fish-ub3wn
    @Fish-ub3wn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    so beautiful graphics.. You are really good.

  • @huntclanhunt9697
    @huntclanhunt9697 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My theory going into this video:
    They ate a lot of fish (being an island nation) and rice (asian culture).

  • @innitbruv-lascocomics9910
    @innitbruv-lascocomics9910 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes! New vid by Metratron!

  • @voldemortborbeli5839
    @voldemortborbeli5839 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love it and would like to see more! 🤗

  • @ezrafaulk3076
    @ezrafaulk3076 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interesting to know that the Japanese used rice as a *currency* for taxes back then, a lot like how the Romans used *salt* as a currency to pay their soldiers; makes me wonder if they have a word like "salary" in their own language that's based on the Old Japanese word for *rice* , whatever that word may be.
    Anyways, considering that even *today* , most Japanese have to live along the *coast* , I'd imagine that they mostly ate *seafood* , as that'd be the most abundant food source they have access to. *I* personally thought they'd use the rice to brew *sake* they could sell to the higher-ups for a good amount of money, kinda like how the Cherokee brewed corn into whiskey to sell to "the white man" to make money after America won its independence from England before George Washington passed the whiskey tax. Seems like a good use of rice to me.
    Of course, I always imagined that Japanese cuisine was *much* more varied than the three dishes we usually see, and what you presented here is honestly *much* more believable than "they ate a lot of rice".

    • @kalterverwalter4516
      @kalterverwalter4516 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wouldnt say Currency perse but you are rigth they paid races with IT. But I think they Used Rice more as "Gold". Meaning yes you could Pay in Rice or you Pay in something That has a Same Value as the Rice.

    • @ezrafaulk3076
      @ezrafaulk3076 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kalterverwalter4516 in other words, *barter* , the very *first* form of economic exchange, and honestly the most *reliable* one too; if all the different currencies *fail* (I'm confident crypto's the currency of the *future* , but hypothetically), we can *always* fall back on barter.

    • @ezrafaulk3076
      @ezrafaulk3076 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Tommy Taffy I'm well aware that Japanese works *very* differently from English, but as a country that pays people for their work, that gives them a *salary* , I imagine they have their own *equivalent* word; and if rice was used as a currency, I'd imagine that lots of people were *paid* in rice too back in those days; putting 2 and 2 together, even though Japanese is a *very* different language from English, it's not hard to imagine it has its *own* equivalent of the word "salary", as well as it being rooted in the Old Japanese word for rice. I'm not saying that's the case for *sure* , since I don't speak Japanese, I'm just saying it makes sense.

  • @808bigisland
    @808bigisland 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The term neolithic can be used on the Jômon period. Don't overcomplicate. Also the South is tropical and the North is very cold. Foods vary very much. Fishing is big. Here in Hawaii Japan is a strong cultural influence.

  • @gamevalor
    @gamevalor 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It would be cool if you cook ancient dishes such as Roman and feudal Japanese in a video.

  • @Jnow796
    @Jnow796 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ~Le siren game in the background. My favorite was the first one for ps2. I loved getting all archieve itens. The worldbuilding was so freaking good.
    Besides, I learned so much in this one video...

  • @neck_acrobatics
    @neck_acrobatics 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:34 Hot rice being spread on nori with a spatula, my poor eyes can't unsee that.

  • @TheDarkEnigma
    @TheDarkEnigma 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your content Metatron. found you originally through your reaction to the woman saying Rome didnt exist. I originally commented asking about a video on Yasuke, but realized you had done one and i just hadnt looked hard enough. Viewing that video currently and enjoying the information and your view on it. Deleted my original comment for the sake of not having you possibly repeat yourself by saying you did one. again love your content man.

  • @hermanderaeymaecker4134
    @hermanderaeymaecker4134 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Official records. That was a good one.

  • @MortusVanDerHell
    @MortusVanDerHell 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I stocked: Barley in beer ?! ...oh... yeah. English beer. No german purity rule for beer. ^^
    This series is a real help to see cultural differences and helps to remind, that there is everytime another way to make things. :-)

    • @DerSchlechteChirurg
      @DerSchlechteChirurg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Barley is one of the main ingredients for beer. Sometimes other grains, but barley is commoly used. When the ingredients are listet in the german "Reinheitsgebot", "Malz"(malt) means "Gerstenmalz"( barley-malt). Maybe thats what caused your confusion.

    • @MortusVanDerHell
      @MortusVanDerHell 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DerSchlechteChirurg Possible. :-)
      I am german, but not a beer drinker, so I know the Reinheitsgebot, but not the exact ingredients, because this kind of drink is not interessting for me. :-D

  • @kylermoore9079
    @kylermoore9079 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice job

  • @basilbrushbooshieboosh5302
    @basilbrushbooshieboosh5302 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good MT

  • @normanbraslow7902
    @normanbraslow7902 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now I know why your Japanese langauge pronunciation is so good.

  • @juliomartinez6621
    @juliomartinez6621 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks!

  • @KCanbutwont
    @KCanbutwont 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Random takeaway thought: Horse-chestnuts are toxic both raw and cooked. In my country we unfortunately cannot grow chestnut trees anymore due to Dutch Elm disease, so no tasty roast chestnuts

  • @shaider1982
    @shaider1982 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hope you can collab with Max Miller of Tasting History for a sample of ancient Japanese cusine.

  • @tylerbrowne4329
    @tylerbrowne4329 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If I may be allowed to very briefly go back to your previous video on black and white washing. My favourite character of the past decade is the title character from The CW TV show "Nikita". I am white she is not she was played by Maggie Q a Vietnamese American actress. She is not my favourite character because she is the title character she is my favourite character because she's the first one to really throw a backbone and stand up an organisation she now sees as evil the same one that taught her the skills she uses to bring them down... her willingness to undergo torture shows an incredible mental and physical strength I admire that is why she is my favourite character she's using what she was taught by this organisation against them and she will not let them break her. Her willingness to do what she perceives as right even if it causes her physical pain or discomfort as well as emotional pain is equality I really admire and respect

  • @unitron2005
    @unitron2005 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    There should be a documentary about japanese food in ancient Japan titled "Rice of the Samurai" :D

  • @VosperCDN
    @VosperCDN 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Only problem with a video about food, is that I'm now hungry. Guess that's what to expect watching this before making dinner.

  • @xenomorphphantom8852
    @xenomorphphantom8852 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mmmmmh....
    Citadel paints and miniatures on the background....are those.....TAU?
    Metatron plays for The Greater Good?
    Shocking!
    But somehow...expected....
    Cool stuff mate.
    = )

  • @st0rmrider
    @st0rmrider 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Talking about "official records" and showing someone browsing vinyl records 😂. Nice Easter egg there.

  • @jessielucky4765
    @jessielucky4765 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You've spread and perpetuated a misconception the Japanese created about their own history which has more recently been clarified. Ancient references to rice as currency DID NOT mean that every time gave a rice value that RICE was paid. The equivalent value of rice could and would be paid in many cases. A farmer who produced barley would pay in barley, however the records might measure his contributions, his property etc. etc. in terms that mislead people in the modern day to think he was a rice farmer. There is a major overestimation of the number of people who did agriculture and the amount of rice that was produced and traded. Blacksmiths and other craftspeople may have also at times been labeled as farmers, and recorded as such, since their contributions, wealth taxes etc. were measured as 'rice' in some official records.
    Consider if we went back to see that everyone pays taxes in dollars and assumed that meant everyone was producing dollars somehow LOL. The point that rice was used as the currency is still valid to show that rice was very prevalent and important but it was not the only grain, it was not the only method of tax payment and collection either. It was basically the exchange standard. For example if you were going to collect contributions from people in 20 different countries, rather than constantly adjusting your rates for 20 currencies, you'd give one dollar amount and each person would pay a number of whatever in their currency equivalent to that dollar value. That's how rice worked. You say other staples or grains were not taxed. this is false.

  • @TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight
    @TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love to see a cooking video covering millet. I’ve never seen nor eaten millet before, so it would be interesting to learn the basics of how it was cooked and eaten.

    • @anna_in_aotearoa3166
      @anna_in_aotearoa3166 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've tried it as part of investigating the various glutenfree options available to me, and to be honest wasn't wowed...? Found it a little bitter, both in flour and grain form? But perhaps (just like rice) it may be one of those things where how you cook it makes a big difference... 🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight
      @TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anna_in_aotearoa3166 What did you eat the millet with? I wouldn’t think it would taste good alone, lolz.

    • @anna_in_aotearoa3166
      @anna_in_aotearoa3166 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight Too true! 😆 Tried it alone first just to see what it was like, then tried it with stir-fry veg and also as a sweet dish (with raisins etc) to see if either of them was good. Wasn't a fan either way but I think it'd definitely be a case of individual taste - other people might like it, I dunno...? 🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight
      @TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anna_in_aotearoa3166 I’ll to try it myself, thanks! Your sacrifice will not go forgotten 😆

    • @Elbowbanditest2003
      @Elbowbanditest2003 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've eaten my budgies millet before, it tasted like seed

  • @drektar1
    @drektar1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Might be an odd question, but prolly one of the best spots to get a decent response either from Metatron or someone else knowledgeable lurking around...
    But I was curious , keep seeing it often these days in comment sections people for example praising a Japanese musician going like "omg soandso-sensei makes amazing music". It was in my understanding that "sensei" was used to refer to the teacher in a student/teacher sense, am I mistaken?

    • @Runegrem
      @Runegrem 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not an expert, but from what I've heard, the word is sometimes used to refer to people of a certain expertise in some fields, like art or medicine, e.g. composers or doctors.

  • @lainiwakura1776
    @lainiwakura1776 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Linfamy talks about Japanese history, religion, and yokai in under 10 minutes on his channel. Just giving him a shout out since he recently did a video on how rice was used as currency in medieval Japan.

  • @Ickykanicky
    @Ickykanicky 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're very knowledgeable. Thank you for sharing it with all of us! :^)

  • @curiousuranus810
    @curiousuranus810 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating

  • @sevenproxies4255
    @sevenproxies4255 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did Japanese farmers know about crop rotation?
    Granted you normally think of modern farming techniques when you hear it, but I think I read sometime before that some older cultures learned through trial and error to start doing crop rotation so as to keep the cropfields fertile and useful for longer, since different crops feed on different kinds of nutrients in the soil.

    • @AnotherDuck
      @AnotherDuck 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And even crop rotation had its own evolution, with several different variations for how to do it, depending on the local grains, animals, weather, and seasons.

  • @anna_in_aotearoa3166
    @anna_in_aotearoa3166 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really interesting start to the series! 👍 It would be fascinating to see a comparison of the relative efficiency of various cereal crops the Japanese were using? Both in terms of yield per square metre, and in terms of relative protein & carb yield per cupful?
    I find it really curious how the current image of "rice in Japan" is very much centered around white (hulled) rice, although you mentioned briefly that in the past brown (unhulled) rice was used to feed the workers? I wonder if the transition between the two was technology-based as in the West, where white flour started out as a luxury food and (thanks to industrialisation) rapidly became the norm for some time, until increased nutritional knowledge led to a move back towards wholegrains...

  • @mr.gunzaku437
    @mr.gunzaku437 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was watching Japanology and an older gentleman said the common people in his day ate wheat and barley mostly. Rice was for the rich.

  • @galadballcrusher8182
    @galadballcrusher8182 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    And apart of the differences about neolithic term "baggage" we need discuss the ethnic composition of populace and thus culturally dependent preferences. And yes i am refering to Ainu.

  • @nicolaezenoaga9756
    @nicolaezenoaga9756 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks.

  • @MrYago-xd7um
    @MrYago-xd7um 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I deeply appreciate you beginning this dissertation by explaining why neolithic is poor word choice.
    Thank you.

  • @aragorn1780
    @aragorn1780 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Neither Japanese nor medieval BUT my mom grew up in rural Korea and said that while the rice farmers grew rice they didn't eat it because that was their livelihood they had to sell, they might eat it a few times a year for holidays and birthdays
    What they did eat for subsistence was steamed barley (which mimics the consistency of rice)

  • @minespatch
    @minespatch 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    >Buckwheat millet
    Ah, what Senku used for Ramen in Dr Stone.