Thank you so much for trying to spread reason in an area where the truth has little meaning anymore. I am scared for us all, and especially mine and everyone's children.
I'm very appreciative of Dr Kimberlin's candidness. I'm scared also. I have adult children who have children and they are not vaccinated and refuse to listen to me. It's maddening and so heartbreaking. They have bought into the political hogwash. My major concern even more, is for their innocent children and there is nothing their grandma can do to protect them. Makes me so incredibly sad and afraid for them....angry with my adult children.
Parents and school board members in my community said they do not want masks in school. The reasoning? They said they want the kids to hurry up and get COVID and get it over with and get immunity 🤦♀️🤷♀️ This as in a Florida school board meeting.
Excellent video. I really wish he hadn't dismissed homeschooling though. I understand it is not great for those who don't won't to do it and are forced to, but many homeschool families have done an excellent job for years. Those may dismiss everything else he says because of his negative comments.
This is me. He specifically acknowledged that some kids will still get Covid even if masked. So if Covid is super duper bad, and even masked kids will still get it, then why would you NOT homeschool? Discredits everything he said.
@@JimRanieri Yes I completely agree with you that is what he meant. I also agree with that , as half my patients were depressed and/or anxious with virtual school ,and their education suffered. I just really want to repost this video, but it would greatly offend the homeschool families when he says "homeschooling is inferior is every way". I wish he would have said "virtual school" instead, but semantics...
I too am afraid people will dismiss all the good things he is saying, because of the way he framed the should I pull my kids out of school question. As a former homeschool mom, I can say what I saw in my home, as my husband assisted teachers in the classroom as a paraprofessional, did not resemble what we did with our children at all. I cringe every time I hear anyone call it homeschooling. It just isn't.
I believe all families should home school their children right now. The Delta variant is spreading so fast and easily. I'd rather they stay home and live than go to school to socialize and end up sick or dying. Easy decision for me.
Excellent report Doctor. Thank you. You do, however, have one serious mis-statement. Testing is down between 60 & 90% over the April surge. I have made 3 short videos of pier 4 (58 st bklyn, NY) with scores of parked, unused testing units in the early afternoons 1-2pm. Even New Yorkers are not testing or wearing masks in Manhattan. I have video of that too, even indoors. Thanks for speading the word on pediatric cases. There are now obviously mutations inside the viral lipid membrane that have evolved to attack children. Delta spike mutations (high infectivity) are not the only mutations. This is a correlation and the US is sadly lacking on genome testing & only looking at spike mutations. Something else mutated among the 36,000 nucleotides inside the membrane, not just the spike. This requires controlled testing to prove.
This absolutely terrifies me. Having to try to make a choice to put something into my child’s body that’s not had lots of controlled study vs. taking a chance with COVID that she’s already had once a few months back. I just don’t know which way to turn anymore 😭 Obviously, we all as parents want to do what’s best for our children but JESUS I want some clarity. So many voices shouting in so many different directions.
Something that helped me as a parent facing this same decision was sitting down and doing some math. In the 100+ year history of vaccines (and in the 1,000+ year history of inoculations), no side effect has occurred more than 3 months after administration. Because we've doing vaccination such a long time (and inoculation even longer), we can feel pretty comfortable about the fact that side effects are early on-set. Given that, we can look around at what's already happened. We've now had more than 4 billion (4,480,000,000) vaccine doses administered worldwide including more than 337.4M Pfizer and Moderna doses in the US alone.
To put that into perspective, there are 3.75-4.00M babies born in the US each year. Of those, about 99% are fully vaccinated. Which means that we have the equivalent of 84.25 years worth of data if you only take into account US doses of Pfizer and Moderna (many, many more years if you take into account doses administered by eg Israel which has vaccinated its entire population with Pfizer and tracks all of them through its universal/government healthcare system).
I love your honesty. I was in the same mindset. Bottom line the safest option is always nest vaccinated it safest. It IS scary I know. I swear I felt the same way
Dr Peter McCullough, Cardiologist and Dr Malone together with Dr Kory have convinced me the Covid can be treated and the fearporn was all uncalled for. Sorry to see this video doesn't call on alt opinions.
Excellent information. I applaud you for making this as urgent as it truly is. I also find it frustrating as a person of faith, that those professing to be religious are the ones most entrenched in a selfish mindset and a uncorroberated idea that vaccines and masks are of the devil. I do take milk issue with your characterization of homeschool however. Homeschool, done correctly is actually superior to public schooling, specifically in regards to ensuring that your children are being taught the truth and protected from inappropriate societal influence. I agree kids need in person school, but don't disparage homeschooling to make that point.
Disappointing you don’t cite any data. Just refer to others who also don’t cite data. Not science - just ‘taking their word for it’ is not what you’d expert from a scientist.
@Math Solves Problems We should believe experts if they present their data and show their work. Unfortunately in this talk he hasn’t. We’ve all seen how wrong the CDC/WHO has been at times so we should look at the data and not just ‘take their word for it’. That’s not the scientific method.
@Math Solves Problems Yes. This is a university site. Audience likely educated people looking for data. It’s not a children’s show. He says their is uniform understand. But let’s say for masking kids. UK does different than what WHO recommends which is different from CDC. So it’s not uniform. I’m not a virologist. I was hoping he’d present data. If you see the CDC site on masking they bring up anecdotes (the two stylists) or modelling (which is only as good as the assumptions). In 2020 everyone agrees masking asymptomatic populations don’t help. Cochrane reviews on it. Major studies were equivocal at best. There hasn’t been good study on it now for anyone to say with certainty it works. It might. In whom and how much we don’t know. It may be harmful. We simply don’t know.
@Math Solves Problems I’m not arguing the importance of covid and it’s risk to various populations moreso my own looking for evidence to back some of the guideline statements which I do not believe are evidenced based. Luckily this pandemic while awful could have been much worse for kids (in Canada it’s 95% of deaths over age 60 and 70% from nursing homes) - we need study and data to help us if there is a future virus that effects kids worse.
My goodness, man. Are you listening to this doctor? Who is more qualified than him to tell you what's going on. Let go of your conspiracies or political hangups or whatever it is that's causing you to entrench yourself against what this doctor is so urgently trying to tell you. Do you honestly think your armchair medical degree obtained from the University of Google and TH-cam State College really qualify you to be questioning _this_ guy? Or that your "research" is better informed than this doctor who has studied pediatric infectious diseases for almost 30 YEARS? Besides all that, what on earth could he possibly gain from putting this information out there like this? I'll tell you what he'll get: death threats. I certainly wouldn't be surprised if he's had a few already. Listen to him. I mean really _listen_ to what he is saying. Take down your roadblocks for a moment, set aside whatever the crap is floating around Facebook, and listen to a real expert. Doctors do not normally speak in frantic tones like he is right now. Typically, they are so much more reserved. But, he's scared... and if the doctors are scared, we should be mindful.
Other than vacs, masks, isolation, what do you offer for pre-hospital prophylaxis and treatment? It’s becoming more obvious that old therapeutics could have nipped this in the bud a year ago.
There are currently no FDA-approved prophylactic treatments for COVID. The in vivo studies for ivermectin are showing it’s not effective (if that’s what you’re wondering).
@@SafireThompson Tell that to India. They will be surprised to hear that ivermectin is not effective, since they have recently almost wiped out covid in the recent surge in Uttar Pradesh. The graphs and data from the Johns Hopkins University CSSE database provide a trail of truth that no one can dispute, not even the NIH, CDC, FDA, and WHO.
@@lilyred8120 😂 yeah, right! You do realize that Uttar Pradesh is leading the way in India with vaccinations, right? They are the most vaccinated region in India right now. They also implemented strict lockdown measures as well as cancelled their large religious celebrations. They also implemented agressive contact tracing and surveillance. The ivermectin use you’re talking about was limited to healthcare workers and contacts of COVID patients. They are saying that ivermectin as a prophylactic MIGHT have contributed to lower positivity rates but it’s still not for sure. There are many factors that need to be looked at, what was the cohort size, what was the average age, how many had already caught COVID, etc. What you’re claiming is straight up misinformation. Do some research before spreading lies!
Conservatives love police and hate doctors/nurses. Liberals like doctors/nurses but hate police. Why can’t some people like both??? Thank you to all 3 professions. Thank you to this great doctor.
Tell this to the parents whose children are at childrens hospital on a ventilator fighting for their life. Hey just let the kids die. That is a great way to build natural immunity.
This man is an infectious disease specialist. They treat a lot of weird communal threats.Lots of people claim to be “specialist” but working off a PhD or some other specialty. not actually treating these patients. He’s actually in the trenches..
If “natural immunity” could take care of and be a shield for all illnesses you would have no need for medical facilities or modern medicine. “Natural Immunity” will not protect you from the diseases caused by environmental exposure and by the very air we breath..
@@somethingserious4090 I don't have need for medical facilities. "Modern Medicine" is prescribing a pill instead of fixing the problem. The issue is we are an extremely unhealthy country filled with sedentary sloths.
Please know what you are saying as fact actually IS fact before you post on social media, PLEASE. This is a precisely how we got to this point in the first place.
The PCR test won't tell you if you have the Delta variant but genomic sequencing does. Not every PCR test sample will have genomic sequencing done on it. That testing is more expensive and some countries are doing more genomic sequencing than others. It's more of a surveillance method and doesn't have any implications for the individual - it's more for epidemiologists and modelling.
@@WoodyONeal if your listening to what the government tells you , then that makes you the stupid one. There is NO test for the Delta Variant and it also can NOT disguish between Covid or flu!! Maybe before calling someone names you check your information.
@@staceymclain8391 This is incredibly ignorant. If the flu and covid could not be told apart, there would be no vaccines, there would be no tests for covid... Do you really think that people who can create mRNA based vaccines can't tell one virus from another? This has nothing to do with the government, and everything to do with _LISTENING TO SCIENTISTS AND DOCTORS_. Stay in your lane and let science do its work.
I can’t applaud you enough. Thank you for this. I hope people listen.
Thank you so much for trying to spread reason in an area where the truth has little meaning anymore. I am scared for us all, and especially mine and everyone's children.
Very helpful video for Peds and COVID. Thank you. I am IM hospitalist, so Peds is not my wheelhouse.
Thank you SO MUCH, Dr. Kimberlin!!
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I'm very appreciative of Dr Kimberlin's candidness. I'm scared also. I have adult children who have children and they are not vaccinated and refuse to listen to me. It's maddening and so heartbreaking. They have bought into the political hogwash. My major concern even more, is for their innocent children and there is nothing their grandma can do to protect them. Makes me so incredibly sad and afraid for them....angry with my adult children.
Parents and school board members in my community said they do not want masks in school. The reasoning? They said they want the kids to hurry up and get COVID and get it over with and get immunity 🤦♀️🤷♀️ This as in a Florida school board meeting.
Thank you Doctor.
Excellent video. I really wish he hadn't dismissed homeschooling though. I understand it is not great for those who don't won't to do it and are forced to, but many homeschool families have done an excellent job for years. Those may dismiss everything else he says because of his negative comments.
This is me. He specifically acknowledged that some kids will still get Covid even if masked. So if Covid is super duper bad, and even masked kids will still get it, then why would you NOT homeschool? Discredits everything he said.
@@JimRanieri Yes I completely agree with you that is what he meant. I also agree with that , as half my patients were depressed and/or anxious with virtual school ,and their education suffered. I just really want to repost this video, but it would greatly offend the homeschool families when he says "homeschooling is inferior is every way". I wish he would have said "virtual school" instead, but semantics...
@@annettecosgrove2357 he said "homeschool virtual learning" affects our kids. Being on a screen all day, etc. It was confusing, i agree!
I too am afraid people will dismiss all the good things he is saying, because of the way he framed the should I pull my kids out of school question. As a former homeschool mom, I can say what I saw in my home, as my husband assisted teachers in the classroom as a paraprofessional, did not resemble what we did with our children at all. I cringe every time I hear anyone call it homeschooling. It just isn't.
I believe all families should home school their children right now. The Delta variant is spreading so fast and easily. I'd rather they stay home and live than go to school to socialize and end up sick or dying. Easy decision for me.
Excellent advise for everyone.
Excellent report Doctor. Thank you. You do, however, have one serious mis-statement. Testing is down between 60 & 90% over the April surge. I have made 3 short videos of pier 4 (58 st bklyn, NY) with scores of parked, unused testing units in the early afternoons 1-2pm. Even New Yorkers are not testing or wearing masks in Manhattan. I have video of that too, even indoors. Thanks for speading the word on pediatric cases. There are now obviously mutations inside the viral lipid membrane that have evolved to attack children. Delta spike mutations (high infectivity) are not the only mutations. This is a correlation and the US is sadly lacking on genome testing & only looking at spike mutations. Something else mutated among the 36,000 nucleotides inside the membrane, not just the spike. This requires controlled testing to prove.
This absolutely terrifies me. Having to try to make a choice to put something into my child’s body that’s not had lots of controlled study vs. taking a chance with COVID that she’s already had once a few months back. I just don’t know which way to turn anymore 😭 Obviously, we all as parents want to do what’s best for our children but JESUS I want some clarity. So many voices shouting in so many different directions.
Something that helped me as a parent facing this same decision was sitting down and doing some math. In the 100+ year history of vaccines (and in the 1,000+ year history of inoculations), no side effect has occurred more than 3 months after administration. Because we've doing vaccination such a long time (and inoculation even longer), we can feel pretty comfortable about the fact that side effects are early on-set. Given that, we can look around at what's already happened. We've now had more than 4 billion (4,480,000,000) vaccine doses administered worldwide including more than 337.4M Pfizer and Moderna doses in the US alone.
To put that into perspective, there are 3.75-4.00M babies born in the US each year. Of those, about 99% are fully vaccinated. Which means that we have the equivalent of 84.25 years worth of data if you only take into account US doses of Pfizer and Moderna (many, many more years if you take into account doses administered by eg Israel which has vaccinated its entire population with Pfizer and tracks all of them through its universal/government healthcare system).
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I love your honesty. I was in the same mindset. Bottom line the safest option is always nest vaccinated it safest. It IS scary I know. I swear I felt the same way
I meant get vaccinated is the safest option
Homeschooling done properly is definitely not inferior. Otherwise I agree with this doctor.
Dr Peter McCullough, Cardiologist and Dr Malone together with Dr Kory have convinced me the Covid can be treated and the fearporn was all uncalled for. Sorry to see this video doesn't call on alt opinions.
Excellent information. I applaud you for making this as urgent as it truly is. I also find it frustrating as a person of faith, that those professing to be religious are the ones most entrenched in a selfish mindset and a uncorroberated idea that vaccines and masks are of the devil.
I do take milk issue with your characterization of homeschool however. Homeschool, done correctly is actually superior to public schooling, specifically in regards to ensuring that your children are being taught the truth and protected from inappropriate societal influence. I agree kids need in person school, but don't disparage homeschooling to make that point.
Disappointing you don’t cite any data. Just refer to others who also don’t cite data. Not science - just ‘taking their word for it’ is not what you’d expert from a scientist.
@Math Solves Problems We should believe experts if they present their data and show their work. Unfortunately in this talk he hasn’t. We’ve all seen how wrong the CDC/WHO has been at times so we should look at the data and not just ‘take their word for it’. That’s not the scientific method.
@Math Solves Problems Yes. This is a university site. Audience likely educated people looking for data. It’s not a children’s show.
He says their is uniform understand. But let’s say for masking kids. UK does different than what WHO recommends which is different from CDC. So it’s not uniform.
I’m not a virologist. I was hoping he’d present data.
If you see the CDC site on masking they bring up anecdotes (the two stylists) or modelling (which is only as good as the assumptions).
In 2020 everyone agrees masking asymptomatic populations don’t help. Cochrane reviews on it. Major studies were equivocal at best.
There hasn’t been good study on it now for anyone to say with certainty it works.
It might. In whom and how much we don’t know. It may be harmful. We simply don’t know.
@Math Solves Problems I’m not arguing the importance of covid and it’s risk to various populations moreso my own looking for evidence to back some of the guideline statements which I do not believe are evidenced based.
Luckily this pandemic while awful could have been much worse for kids (in Canada it’s 95% of deaths over age 60 and 70% from nursing homes) - we need study and data to
help us if there is a future virus that effects kids worse.
My goodness, man. Are you listening to this doctor? Who is more qualified than him to tell you what's going on. Let go of your conspiracies or political hangups or whatever it is that's causing you to entrench yourself against what this doctor is so urgently trying to tell you.
Do you honestly think your armchair medical degree obtained from the University of Google and TH-cam State College really qualify you to be questioning _this_ guy? Or that your "research" is better informed than this doctor who has studied pediatric infectious diseases for almost 30 YEARS?
Besides all that, what on earth could he possibly gain from putting this information out there like this? I'll tell you what he'll get: death threats. I certainly wouldn't be surprised if he's had a few already.
Listen to him. I mean really _listen_ to what he is saying. Take down your roadblocks for a moment, set aside whatever the crap is floating around Facebook, and listen to a real expert. Doctors do not normally speak in frantic tones like he is right now. Typically, they are so much more reserved. But, he's scared... and if the doctors are scared, we should be mindful.
Other than vacs, masks, isolation, what do you offer for pre-hospital prophylaxis and treatment? It’s becoming more obvious that old therapeutics could have nipped this in the bud a year ago.
There are currently no FDA-approved prophylactic treatments for COVID. The in vivo studies for ivermectin are showing it’s not effective (if that’s what you’re wondering).
@@SafireThompson Tell that to India. They will be surprised to hear that ivermectin is not effective, since they have recently almost wiped out covid in the recent surge in Uttar Pradesh. The graphs and data from the Johns Hopkins University CSSE database provide a trail of truth that no one can dispute, not even the NIH, CDC, FDA, and WHO.
@@lilyred8120 PLEASE STOP. Disinformation is KILLING people, and you are on a post specifically about CHILDREN.
So, the answer to the question is "we have nothing to offer pre-hospitalization, other than Tylenol and something equally useless."
@@lilyred8120 😂 yeah, right! You do realize that Uttar Pradesh is leading the way in India with vaccinations, right? They are the most vaccinated region in India right now. They also implemented strict lockdown measures as well as cancelled their large religious celebrations. They also implemented agressive contact tracing and surveillance. The ivermectin use you’re talking about was limited to healthcare workers and contacts of COVID patients. They are saying that ivermectin as a prophylactic MIGHT have contributed to lower positivity rates but it’s still not for sure. There are many factors that need to be looked at, what was the cohort size, what was the average age, how many had already caught COVID, etc. What you’re claiming is straight up misinformation. Do some research before spreading lies!
Conservatives love police and hate doctors/nurses.
Liberals like doctors/nurses but hate police.
Why can’t some people like both???
Thank you to all 3 professions. Thank you to this great doctor.
Guess you missed the 99-0 vote the Senate voted for feds not defund the cops.
Keep up with current events dippy dip
Are you treating people or are we still killing people
Nothing on boosting natural immunity. Got it. Funny, there’s doc’s with the same credentials saying the exact opposite of this gentleman.
Tell this to the parents whose children are at childrens hospital on a ventilator fighting for their life.
Hey just let the kids die. That is a great way to build natural immunity.
This man is an infectious disease specialist. They treat a lot of weird communal threats.Lots of people claim to be “specialist” but working off a PhD or some other specialty. not actually treating these patients. He’s actually in the trenches..
There is no such thing as "boosting immunity". Maybe that could possibly be the reason real practicing doctors don't talk about it.
If “natural immunity” could take care of and be a shield for all illnesses you would have no need for medical facilities or modern medicine. “Natural Immunity” will not protect you from the diseases caused by environmental exposure and by the very air we breath..
@@somethingserious4090 I don't have need for medical facilities. "Modern Medicine" is prescribing a pill instead of fixing the problem. The issue is we are an extremely unhealthy country filled with sedentary sloths.
How do we know there is a Delta Variant when there is no test for it!!!!
Stop being stupid. There are microbiology tests in lab that do this. Sorry you can’t run to Walmart to get your Delta test.
Please know what you are saying as fact actually IS fact before you post on social media, PLEASE. This is a precisely how we got to this point in the first place.
The PCR test won't tell you if you have the Delta variant but genomic sequencing does. Not every PCR test sample will have genomic sequencing done on it. That testing is more expensive and some countries are doing more genomic sequencing than others. It's more of a surveillance method and doesn't have any implications for the individual - it's more for epidemiologists and modelling.
@@WoodyONeal if your listening to what the government tells you , then that makes you the stupid one. There is NO test for the Delta Variant and it also can NOT disguish between Covid or flu!! Maybe before calling someone names you check your information.
@@staceymclain8391 This is incredibly ignorant. If the flu and covid could not be told apart, there would be no vaccines, there would be no tests for covid... Do you really think that people who can create mRNA based vaccines can't tell one virus from another? This has nothing to do with the government, and everything to do with _LISTENING TO SCIENTISTS AND DOCTORS_. Stay in your lane and let science do its work.
And now he mentioned God this is beyond evilness
That is stupid
Your post??
Know where not to send my daughter in a few years.