It amazes me how ass hurt everyone gets over your opinion. Your points are valid... they just get so mad and have a run in place temper tantrum because it’s true. I like Kirby’s. They clean well enough but are exceedingly heavy too heavy for many people, they do a lot but none of what they do particularly well... plus the whole door to door sales is outdated as fuck.
@@TheVacuumWizard got you beat well I got a Sentra with pretty much all the attachments for free but for ones I paid for I spent 5 bucks on a Kirby g3 with pretty much all the attachments I also bought a classic omega along time ago for around the same price with all the atchments as well I think it was 5 bucks but it could of been 1 dollar lol
@@danielc.1227 i got you beat. i found a kirby g3 in the trash with all its tools hose zip brush sander set carpet shampoo set and floor wax new. not to mention i got a sentria out the trash with all its tools hose and shampoo set even had the owners paperwork.
@@TheVacuumWizard I found a Sentria out in the desert by a trail I walk on. Pretty clean and not damaged. No tools. But my parents owned an Ultimate G they no longer have, but had the tools. So I got those. I found 2 abandoned ones in an alley. Another Sentria and a G6. I haven't refurbished them. Definitely a future project.
I bought my G4 around 1990. My wife beat it like a rented mule. She was vacuuming 3 or more times a day.When she broke the fan blades I retired it to the basement for 20+ years.Watched a few videos and bought a new fan and belt.Adjusted the drive for the first time. Works like a new one ,try that with a newer vac.
I've had G5 for almost 30 years, Mom bought it and now it's passed to me. I'm absolutely terrified of it, but it's kept the original carpets clean and in great condition. My belts last a few years, changed brush roller twice.
Could you explain how the kirby vacuums test so well on other review sites i.e. vaclab or vacuum wars? You've masked this video as a review when it's actually a bashing video. Kirbys are not perfect, but they are still very good vacuums. Particularly with carpet.
35:41 When using a KIrby on hardwood floors, you don't lower the powerhead right to the floor. That's why there is a height adjustment. You lower the head for various thicknesses of different carpets so the patented design for airtight suction can do what it is designed to do. YOu don't need to deep clean a hardwood floor. You should leave a bit of space so it doesn't scratch the floor. Also, when vacuuming a bare floor, you do not need to use the beater brushes (which are for carpets).
My Kirby has been in my family for 50 years my dude and I've only changed that belt 3 times in that time frame. Plus I can use the Kirby to vacuum my bed which I often do it's useful asf. No other vacuum can do that reliably. Kirby op
I would imagine you have a machine that is extremely outdated doesn’t perform that great compared to modern stuff and the belt will be slipping more than the mother that made you
Something to consider. The weight of the Kirby lies mainly in the motor. I think that is true of most vacuums. The Hoover self propelled Windtunnel weighs about as much as the Kirby does, and it is made mostly of plastic. So why would an all plastic vacuum weigh so much if its supposed to be so much lighter than metal? The metal on a Kirby is lightweight aluminum, aluminum is lightweight by definition. Also, some Dyson's weigh quite a lot, and even Riccar's, all made of plastic. I know the metal on a Kirby doesn't add much to the weight because I tried to sell the metal to a metal scrapyard and I got very little for it since it didn't weigh a lot. I have had a lot of Kirby's apart and I can attest that most of the weight is in the motor itself, the armature and field coil. But no one ever mentions this, they just say its what the rest of the vacuum is made of. I have a consumer reports from a few years ago with vacuum comparisons. Their top 5 vacuums (Hoover Windtunnel Anniversary, Mele S Twist, Kirby Sentria, Kenmore Intuition, Meile S7260 Cat & Dog) all weigh over 20 pounds. But the only "heavy' vacuum according to collectors is the Kirby. I know the Kirby isn't perfect, but the statements that I see over and over are often not really true, or could be said of other vacuums. Oh, another thing that was said that didn't make much sense. It was said that the metal on a Kirby can get scratched, implying a plastic vacuum doesn't. So are you telling me you have never seen a scratched up plastic vacuum? I sure have, plenty, well, pretty much every one that has seen regular use.
I am saying that aluminum is a soft metal ,no more durable then plastic. The Hoover& Miele have a full set of on board tools and a hard bag compartment . That's where the weigh comes from .
So i did just buy a Kirby G4 off of ebay, $179.00 plus $86.00 shipping, supposedly rebuilt, it was an impulse buy because everyone said they were the best, I initially wanted a vacuum I was able to fix myself, I did notice a difference in suction, my old vacuum was an Electrolux Precision with brush roll clean and would fill up to the top after cleaning the living room, even plug the hose with dirt if the canister was full. I did use the kirby all day in two bedrooms and filled up the bag,no where as fast as my old Electrolux. If I could I would have bought another Electrolux Precision but they dont make those anymore. I might have kept shopping around if your review would have popped up, but when I researched Kirby, the youtube algorithm had a bunch of glowing reviews, I only found your channel through a reddit post. Excellent review!
I was raised with Kirbys. A 1965 Dual Sanitronic 50. I once had a cheaper Dirt Devil from WalMart. That's when I realized the difference between a Kirby and other brands. I agree Kirbys are far too heavy. I own 5 and the reason is is that I own 3 homes and two of those houses are 2 story so I am not lugging them up and downstairs. I've only bought them used, never paid more than $100 for a fully stocked one. I've only had one breakdown on me and that was a $75 fix. I think buying one used is a great purchase. BTW my mom is 89 and still uses her 1965 Dual Sanitronic 50. She complains every time how heavy it is. I've heard her complain about its weight since I was a kid in the 70s.Something tells me she's gonna stick with the Kirby anyway.
I've had a G4 that I inherited, and I think the belts have been changed twice. And I once had a new fan blade put in. It's fantastic for carpeting. But my house now has all hard floors and just a couple rugs. So I usually use it now mainly with the hose and hard floor attachments, which is kind of a pain. But I haven't had to change any of the gaskets or anything else on mine otherwise. It works flawlessly for about 27 years now
It's misleading to label this video as an Avalir 2 review when you aren't using an actual Avalir 2. This is more like a general Kirby vs. Other comparison. I'd like to see you use an Avalir 2 and review the carpet cleaning and bonus features.
The machine I used is mechanically identical as explained in the video. The color of the machine is that important to you, you probably would buy something else besides a Kirby. The shampooer is widely regarded as non-functional as it has no means of extraction
@@mattafawka The Kirby is an excellent vacuum, but I would use my Hoover Shampooer instead of buying the shampooing attachment. I have a lot of friends with Kirbys and they own normal carpet cleaners.
The g6 came out initially in 1999, what does this have to do with the newest model m? Why is this labeled avalir 2? Vacuum is outdated, so is your biased opinion and obvious disgust with that model vacuum. It’s not just the color that is different when comparing the newest model and one from 1999. Kirby has the best suction and carpet agitation and sits next to my other shampooers that I have for deep cleaning. Biased and mislabeled for sure. Disappointed
I've inherited an Avalir. I was utterly shocked at how much better it is than my dyson, especially for cat hairs and sock fluff. I haven't changed the belt yet or had to do any maintenance other than cleaning the roller - coming up for a year now. Only downside - using the tools is not nearly so convenient. I don't find the weight a problem with the drive mode and the performance is well worth it.
@@electrolux333 this is pretty personal. It depends on your ears. Personally I think my G3 sounds just a little bit louder than some other vacuums I’ve used. And I definitely don’t need ear plugs lol.
I appreciate what your saying I bought mine it is a Series 6 back in the 1990's brand new love it !! It has lasted many a pets and yes its heavy but it has out lasted my cordless vacuums for $200-300 get burned out after I use them. My Kirby has lasted all these years !!
Well you can drive your car a year without changing the oil too . But you don't want to do that. Preventive maintenance on these sorts of things are important!
I generally check my belt every 6 months. They stretch after awhile. They are cheap on eBay. Get the genuine Kirby belts as they are corrugated on the inside giving more friction. If Kirby isn't picking up like you expect, replacing the belt should do the trick. I have a G3 and Avalir.
Having repaired a lot of vacuum cleaners in my time, I can testify that your points are all valid. If I could afford a Sebo Felix or E3 I’d get one of those. That being said though, I like my Kirby, and would rather have my Kirby than a bypass shark, Dyson, or any other bagless tragedy out there.
@@markybgxxx2066Those aren't comparable to these vacuums either. I had a D4. They're good vacuums, bulky, high maintenance. You have to dump the water and let it dry every time you use it, or it will rust the motor and smell bad. The separater needs to be washed every few uses. It's a lovely machine for cleaning all the surfaces in your home, but not a thing to whip out for quick cleaning jobs. If you actually enjoy vacuuming and tinkering with them though, then owning one will be enjoyable. Having one in an apartment was very cumbersome, so that's why I passed mine on to someone else.
Hey! So I have been subscribed to your channel for some time now and very much enjoy your content. That being said, I do not agree with this particular video, I'm sorry. The vacuum is heavy and using attachments is cumbersome however, I do believe it is far better than any other vacuum on the market. You have to know how to properly use the machine in order to appreciate what it can do. Direct air machines do not have tons of suction but they have tons of airflow and that's what cleans. You had said about using the power nozzel on the hard floors - not designed for that. You would use the hose and hard floor to for that. The new Avalirs have 150 nozzle CFM and can run circles around any Dyson, Shark, etc.
Thanks for watching! I wouldn't use Dyson and shark as a standard. I would agree with you it's better than those machines but there are definitely many machines that run circles around this they retail for a lot less. Have you had a chance to use a SEBO,Miele or Lindhaus?
@@PerformanceReviews I haven't used those machines and I would not buy a Kirby new. They are certainly overpriced. On the used market however, you can score one pretty cheap and most people who buy them new do it on impulse and then regret the purchase later. I just bought a lightly used Avalir with unused attachments and shampoo system for $200 - and it works great. I used the hose for some cleaning tasks and I agree, there is not a lot of suction but there is tons of air flow and that's what cleans! The Kirby is a great machine and I'm sure Sebo etc are great vacuums as well however, I would not advise someone to not buy a Kirby just because it's big and heavy and has no suction. It's a different type of vacuum that does not rely on suction but rather air flow. Educate people on the type of vacuum it is and how it works and the application it is best suited for. For example, buy a Walmart vacuum if you want to clean off surface dirt only and rip up your carpet and vacuuming is not a priority. Buy a Kirby, Sebo, Miela etc if you want a deep down clean, vacuuming is a priority, and you want quality.
@@PerformanceReviews too bad sebo or miele only have 60 to 80 cfm but they seem good for onboard tool equiped uprights but I believe kirby outcleans them on carpet because of the direct air design while sebo or miele may have better tool suction performance.
Yo Kirby's the Rolls-Royce back you up on this and I was a Dyson early adopter and I can tell you this Dyson is a horrible product because you can't repair that s*** or even clean it without great effort and damage to the product ultimately
Yo the good reasons for owning a Kirby is that you can take it apart in a half second a fan replacement every 20 years cost 15 bucks and if you buy it it doesn't matter what year you brought it it's going to be a bad ass mother f*****
My dad has had his kirby heritage 2 since 88. Still runs great. Never bin torn down. Just changed belts and bags. So they do last. He paid 900 for it with the kirby cady off a salesman.
@@falgianibrandon Sebos are literally one of the most durable vacuums on the market. They come with a 10 year warranty. Same story with with miele, they come with a 7 year warranty. Kirby’s do last a while but they don’t last any longer the other top brands. Kirby’s also have horrible suction, so why pay that much for something with that kind of performance? You’re not getting anything special
@@laxus8172 Sebo is a great machine, but so is Kirby. Having repaired both brands, they are definitely quality vacuum cleaners. I would have to disagree that the suction is horrible on a Kirby because I have owned several and they have pretty powerful suction. I used a Sebo Automatic X1 in my home against my 2005 Kirby Diamond Edition. While the Sebo was lighter and had on-board tools, it didn't match the suction/ airflow of my Kirby Diamond Edition. It isn't unheard of to see a Kirby that is 90+ that still works. I own one that is 63-years-old and still works great. Both companies make plenty of parts to repair them when needed, but Kirby does still make parts for machines that are as old as the 1940s. I do love Sebo, especially the Felix, but I will always own a Kirby.
I bought a 41 year old one (1979 made Tradition) for $5, and $75 total for the Accessory kit, hose, sweeper head/nozzle, belts, bags and parts to fully tune it up. I wouldn’t buy one of these new, but the nostalgia of a vintage one is cool.
Even in cheap its still a shitty designed vacuum which belongs in the garbage. There are technically better designed vacuums out there in the supermarkets for under 50 bucks new. This Technical design is about 20 years out of time.
@@J0nni3👌🏽. I enjoy mine. 40 years old, and even with vacuums like Dyson’s and Miele’s, I still have not found anything else with something as practical and forward thinking as Kirby’s Emptor tray. You have fun taking an hour or so disassembling your vacuum to clear a clog because someone vacuumed something that they shouldn’t have, and I’ll clear my Kirby in less than a minute.
If I spill breakfast cereal or cat litter, I'm not going to grab either the $1,000 Kirby or $800 Sebo. I'll grab the little $20 Black & Decker cordless that was designed to pick up those things. If I want to pull layers of disgusting gross allergens out of my carpets while grooming them so they look like new, I'll grab the direct suction Kirby or Oreck.
So this 20 yr old cleans up pretty well for its age. What life expectancy can be expected from the other mfrs plastic models? I'm still happy using my kirby G4. Yes it is heavy but it doesn't go back packing with me. Being self propelled means weight not such a factor for single floor use. Hose installation is somewhat unhandy but workable.
Kirby's are built to last. I've had one for over 20yrs and it's by far the best vacuum I've purchased. Yes, it is heavier than it's plastic competitors but it will withstand the abuse of daily vacuuming. Takes a lot to put a Kirby out of commission, but parts are readily available if there is a mishap. I'd rather have a durable metal vac that can take a lick time to time than an expensive plastic vac that will break and have to be replaced...been there done that before purchasing my Kirby...haven't had to purchase another vac since. To each their own, I say🙂
Yes but most machines over $500 are built to last. Nothing a Henry, SEBO,Miele wouldn't do better and with less hassle and most of those tend to be tougher built with the more modern bypass design. Glad you've liked yours the past 20 years it'll last as longer then you wanted to.
@@ZapDash It results in better airflow, yes, however, airflow is only half the equation. Kirbys have very lousy suction power as well as a floorhead that isn't designed particularly well. They struggle with heavy debris. They would do a lot better with some more suction power and floor head that was more aerodynamically designed. A lot of bypass machines clean better than Kirby's because they have a nozzle that's designed to take advantage of what suction and airflow they do have.
Interesting review, but what sticks out to me is that the vaccum you're using in the video is the model from 20 years ago and it still looks brand new. Seems to me that would be a good selling point.
@@PerformanceReviews The fact that you can actually restore these things back to like new condition is also a testament to it's quality and selling points. As well if you never redesign the main parts, that just means you can buy replacements for decades to come, a brand new modern motor can be installed into a 40 year old Kirby, and suddenly you have a (functionally) new vacuum.
I personally like the design i wouldn't want it to change, i like the old school look and it's still the best around, personally think the Diamond was the best Kirby in recent years though i do love the that new shampoo system can also be used as a mop, and the look has changed over the years slightly, but either way it is still one of the best vaccums on the market so I'll take ability over look
I found a G6 at the curb, made in 2003. I took it and all it needed was a power cord. Spent 20 bucks on eBay. I’ll take Aluminum over cheap brittle plastic. Filter bag has pros and cons. The belt is I think the only biggest con. Otherwise. These vacuums will last and can be passed down.
I have 6 Kirby vacuum cleaners. They are a 1985 Heritage II, 1989 Legend II, 1991 Generation 3, 2004 Ultimate G Diamond Edition, 2007 Sentria, 2018 Avalir 2. The G3 was rebuilt by the Kirby Company in February 2021 and the DE was rebuilt by the Kirby Company in December 2019 and the SE was rebuilt by the Kirby Company in January 2016. There is absolutely no difference in performance between the G3 and the A2.
Kirby vacuum cleaners started with the heritage 2 model in new zealand where i come from. My auntie brought a new kirby in 1988, only because the salesman said the vacuum will solve all my cousin's asthma issues, turned out not to be true, back in those days kirby vacuum cleaners did not have hepa filtration bags.
11:46 good point, I used my Kirby to vacuum up a lot of broken glass and I went through at least 2 or 3 belts Didn’t want to use a clean air vacuum as it scratches up the ducting really badly, never vacuum up broken glass with a clean air vacuum you care about
Performance Reviews That’s good 👌 I just tried it with a Dyson DC33 ages ago and regretted it, all the insides were severely scratched and I wanted to keep it for my collection- sold it off as a result ahah
I agree that the Kirby Generation platform has been around for a long time, and every model they bring out is a re-hash of the same basic 1990 G3, and yes, they are dated now by todays standards, they are also heavy, and not very convenient for today's busy families, who want lightweight cordless machines to whip round with. You make some good points, but I think overall, the Kirby is still a good carpet cleaner (I own a G4, G7, and a H1), and worth having in a collection if you are a collector, but Kirby seriously do need to completely overhaul their design now, and bring it into the modern era. They need to make the Kirby lightweight, and have a hose built in at the very least, plus offering a small range of vacuums, rather than just one, would help - lets say a bagless version and a bagged, and even a cordless version for those who dont want the hassle of a cord. I think the title of the video is a little misleading though, as you are not actually doing a review of an Avalir 2, but a G6, which although similar, is not an Avalir 2.
I've used many G10D 's and didn't really notice a difference other than a big vagina hole in the handle. If you'd like to lend me yours I'd be happy to do a video with it.
My spouse bought a Kirby before we were married, so I had no say in the high price, door sales, etc. I am handy, and have repaired the now 30+ yr old machine as needed. It's cheaper than buying a new unit. Yes, I replaced the plastic fan once, and we are very careful not to vacuum up a stray penny or marble (it will suck them up, but that's what breaks fan vanes). Once I thought the power switch had failed, but when I opened it up, it turned out I had BENT the metal link from the button to the switch. I straightened it, and now am careful not to stomp on the switch button. If I DID need a new vacuum, I would not buy a Kirby. Instead, I would get a machine that had more powerful suction. As for the weight, I view it as a dual-purpose cleaning & workout machine. Finally, his suggestion of buying USED is good.
Interesting to see side by side tests with the Meile. At the end of the day though, the two machines are completely different and it's hard to compare them since the motors designs are different along with the power they use. I understand what you were trying to show though since Kirby markets their machines as an all in one. I personally like them for carpet cleaning but that's about it and I think that's what the majority of their fan base likes them for. They'll never compare to the suction of a bypass vacuum like the Meile just because of what they are. Having said that, I would bet the Kirby would have an advantage for fine particles in carpet over most new bypass uprights and canister vacs. It may not perform as well with surface dirt aka larger objects but it will certainly get the fine dirt with it's agitation and even distribution of airflow. Now, do I think they're worth buying new? No. You can find excellent condition used ones for great prices on eBay and some people give them away for free! I personally like the older Kirbys without the self propel. I've had a G3 and a Heritage II in the past and both worked great but the Heritage II was much more compact. I don't have either of them anymore though. In fact, the only vacuum I've held on to out of every direct air vacuum I've owned is my 1989 Royal Classic. I've owned several Hoover Convertibles, a Eureka ESP, and I always liked the Royal the best out of all of them. It always did the best job with surface dirt and fine dirt and it's more compact and effortless to push compared to the Kirbys. I use it along my Sebo X4 Automatic and Simplicity Synergy. The Sebo does a great job, but the Simplicity, with the tandem air design, is about the only newer vacuum I've used that cleans carpet as well as the Royal or better. I will say the newer machines obviously are superior for filtration plus they have the attachments, but I still love my old Royal.
Actually he converted the Kirby into its canister mode, therefore they were in an identically mode. As a longtime collector I've owned or used every Kirby sence it's inception. I've pitted them against dozes of other vacuum both upright and canisters. In a mojority of the testes the other vacuums did much better. Unfortunately Kirby just isn't as good a vacuum cleaner as many other vacuum cleaners.
I have a Royal 2028 that was made in 2002, and I agree that they are excellent deep cleaners. I have owned a variety of vacuums in my lifetime and my two favorite brands are Royal and Kirby. I do like Sebo, Miele and Lindhaus, but I am old-fashioned when it comes to vacuum cleaners. I use my Kirbys more than my Royal, because I have hardwood, tile and vinyl in my home. There are large area rugs, too, and it is more convenient to use my Kirbys or my Oreck Commercial to clean them. Since my grandmother passed away, we have been working in her house: painting, remodeling, etc. I will be using the Royal in her house, because there is a lot of carpet there. It is currently covered up with sawdust and other debris, and I know the Royal will make short work of that. I have used it and my Diamond Edition Kirby in her house, and the Royal grooms the carpet a bit better.
@@PerformanceReviewsAfter watching more of your videos and working on some vacuums that belong to family and friends, I think I must be gentler with my vacuums than the average consumer. I change the belt on my G7 every 6 months or so, even though the indicator light doesn't flicker. 1-4 months seemed like a lot. But you're right, I'm also not a repair person, I'm just tinkering on vacuums for fun.
You’ve confirmed my experience with my Kirby: it’s just okey as a vacuum and requires too much fiddling. It’s useless on floors. Although I love the self-propelled, heft, and retro aluminum look, its below-average performance it’ isn’t worth the hassle.
That about some of the whole video off in comment. 👍 Thanks for watching. If you're looking to replace it you might take a look at some of the German manufacturers.
I worked for kirby for like a week and when they told me I had to go door to door and convince people to pay 1300 + for a vacuum I never came back 🤣🤣 I thought I was applying for phone service rep at the time 😂 I just turned 18 at the time. Like I'm not going door to door like a 1950s sales person.. You can get shot now a days just walking up to a strangers yard so I hope they have changed their sales techniques the door sales man is outdated in 2020.. Unless your delivering a package and have a uniform I don't like anyone just randomly showing up at my house so I didn't want to be the sales person doing that to someone else considering I don't like it.
Do you think a Kirby could extend the life of a carpet enough to be worth the price of purchase? (The second floor of my house is all carpet, bottom floor is all hardwood.)
Any quality vacuum will extend the life of your. Check out the carpet and rug institute list of approved vacuums to get an idea. But plenty of vacuums out clean the Kirby for less money.
The Kirby is way more than just a vacuum it can wax your hardwood floors it can fluff up your matted down carpet it can shampoo your stairs and regular carpet and the newer versions can also scrub your hardwood floors and do a ton of different things that a regular vacuum can not do
I work on them to and I’ll tell you when it come to fixing vacuums the Kirby is easy to fix if broken others take a lot more to fix because of the way they are manufactured
I inherited a house where the carpet was installed around 1978. Not planning on replacing until I do some renovations. The Kirby plus rug renovator make it look pretty good. At least I know it pulls the dirt away from the hardwood floor beneath. I can see that because a corner of the carpet is loose and the hardwood is clean. On my hard floors I use a Roomba. I can schedule it to clean and do something else with my time.
@@PerformanceReviews Interesting that you mentioned the Carpet & Rug Institute... Very few models (including Sebo/Windsor which are silver/bronze at best) make it into their gold certification. Kirby was in the Gold Certification (when they were paying to be listed). This indicates the highest level of cleaning. Consumer Reports also listed the Kirby (in specific product description) as deep cleaning better than any other vacuum they have tested. I actually prefer Miele canisters for convenience (not a Kirby fanboy), but something seems clearly off regarding the cleaning results you are mentioning (on carpet) that you are describing with the Kirby. Again - if anything, I am a Miele (canister) fan, but I can acknowledge the somewhat overwhelming number of tests (professional) and by respected groups (CRI) that place the Kirby carpet cleaning performance ahead of almost any of the other well known uprights out there on. I do wish Miele participated as I am VERY curious how the Miele canisters with the SEB228 head would perform in their tests. Miele canisters are my (much) preferred systems...
The Kirby vacuum cleaner is "marketed exclusively door-to-door - often to people who cannot afford a $2700 gadget, but succumb to the sales pitch nonetheless." In 2001, the West Virginia Attorney General obtained thousands in refunds and credits for dissatisfied Kirby buyers. It’s claimed to last a lifetime, but the warranty is only 3 years ( 2 year less then Dysons 5 year warranty)
I know this is an old video but I have recently been searching for vacuums to purchase. Ended up settling on the Dyson Animal 3. I had a Kirby handed down to me when I moved to my first house. I remember being a kid when the salesman came to our home. He had a piece of black cloth and vacuumed my parents mattress showing the dead skin thay they were sleeping on. Needless to say they bought it for I am sure at least 800 back in the 90s. That being said I enjoyed using the Kirby but I would love to see the bin on a Dyson after vacuuming someones house that has only used a Kirby.
You are right that the G6 and the heritage 2 perform the same in deep cleaning but some where at least starting with the diamond edition they started bumping up the airflow and the deep cleaning increases a little and Kirby’s are one of the best deep cleaners and Sanitaire has the best chance of deep cleaning better because of the cfm difference with 140 Kirby cfm now with the newer ones vs the around the 170 cfm Sanitaire airflow. Kirby is not for everyone but they are still good for carpet cleaning and the attachment performance is actually good compared to something like my filter queen.
They are not THAT good at deep cleaning. Recently replaced my carpets and there had to be a beach full of sand under it despite using the Kirby G6 on the carpets since new. Don't believe the sales guys when they tell you it sucks up everything under the carpet. I have filled a Miele Maverick bag in under 4 days with the junk my G6 didn't get.
@@yxflier8409 Did you change the belt? Check to see if your belt is loose. If it is you are not going to get the results you are hoping for. Also make sure your bag fill does not exceed the line on the bag.
Now, I understand why you put Kirby Vacuums in the windmill brain category. I have a mixed bag of carpet and hardwood floors and carpet in my own home making a Kirby an unsuitable vacuum. However, the Lindhaus I have has agitation that pretty much rivals a Kirby and has more water lift.
A little to much " negative" vib going on from the start of this video It's quite clear from the beginning you do not like Kirby vacuums, and you keep talking about the poor airflow compared to " modern" vacuums, but tests I have seen show the Kirby pulling more than DOUBLE Dyson's best vacuum cleaner. And you fail to mention such facts as our Kirby generation three has been in service for nearly 30 years! and still going strong compared to the plastic bull shit that may last 3 years....
Quite the contrary I love Kirby Vacuums. They're just not practical for today's market. Not a bad deal if you pick up one used $25. But definitely can't compete with modern machines. You named Dyson which is one of the worst names in vacuums so of course it's better than that. I also say most "plastic" machines do last about 20 years. you often see some machines that are plastic that last even longer than Kirby. You don't have anything to say about Kirby's plastic internals where all the dust goes through. Sounds like you haven't used very many vacuums. I'd encourage you to go to your local vacuum store and see the modern market of vacuum cleaners.
What is the opening size of the working water lift gauge? I mean the small hole end of the unit. I have just one direct air vacuum and rest of my vacuums are bypass vacuums.
I'm an engineer and this is the best designed machine and longest lasting product on the market, there is absolutely no opinion that can argue with the science..
Lol You haven't looked at the market. There are plenty of options from Europe that have double the lifespans with bypass motors. Then there are Central Vacuums which run about the same about of money.
I own several kirby machines in the UK and the machines themselves i find very good - great build quality and a solid performance.The one thing i dont agree on however is the over the top array of extra attatchments - most in society today are just not needed! Yes supply a hose and tools for the hose end and ok maybe a turbo pet brush but nothing more - i have 5 kirbys that take up very little room but then a whole room needed to store all their attachments!
Bro kirby is the best performer! I mean your right it’s not the best performer on picking up heavy objects on top of the carpet because Kirby’s don’t have good suction but it has the best airflow which is more important so Kirby’s are normally designed for the best deep cleaner!!!
Best is always relevant especially when you try a lot of other machines and see a lot of results. I can definitely say there are other vacuums that cost a lot less that clean a lot better and will Outlast the this Kirby.
You're putting unnecessary where on your brush roller and motor shaft by doing that. Change it every 3 to 6 months at least if you're in a wetter climate. For the rest of us who are in a dryer climate it needs to be changed every 1 to 3 months
🤣 Years on the bench . Let's me know when they're going to break. What's your suggesting Is waiting to your motor stops running until you change your oil on your car. You probably have already caused damage to your vacuum cleaner.
My parents purchased a Kirby in 1959. I am getting ready to use it today. They are built to last. Kirby is the only vacuum that I will ever use. I did buy a G5 and absolutely love it. We have only had to service mom's Kirby one time since I got it from her in 1990. Great Vacuum. A vacuum cleaner is a vacuum cleaner. A Kirby is a sand extractor. It will make carpets last longer because of the way they are design. Mom's carpets were brand new in 1977 and was 30 years old when it was replaced by the real estate investor that purchased it after her death. No sand or grit at the base of the carpet when they took it up. This man is not using this Kirby cleaner properly. There is nothing he can tell me. You can't tell me anything.
I’ve been told by my Kirby dealer that the main difference between the avalir 1 and 2 and the sentria 1 and 2 is the 2 HP motor in the avalir (compared to the 1hp in the sentria 2 down to the g3). I’m not sure if that’s true or who told him that, but if he was told that then someone must’ve misheard something somewhere or lied to him.
Performance Reviews ah. I kind of figured as much. To Kirby’s credit though, they have made some tweaks to the design like the new mini-emtor to improve airflow, the improved tech drive (my sentria’s sounds much different from this GSix), the f-style bags, etc. I believe that Kirby seems to play with design and tweak it here and there with their models. It may not explain much like how Kirby recolored the later sentria to rebrand it as the sentria 2, but I see this as mainly steps towards a new design. Of course, your opinion may be different, but that’s how I see it. This really isn’t something new, they kind of did it with the 505-519 and 560-562 models where they re released them every year and the only major changes being with models 505 (obviously), 510, 516, and (IIRC) 561. I think they did something similar pre-war too, but I can’t remember.
They do not all have the same Motor. I sell kirbys. We do not lie about the differences in kirbys. The fan system is different in each one make the airflow and suction better than the last one. This guy is a prick and lying about Kirby people. I sell the Avalir 2
The Kirby Generation 3, G4, G5, Gsix, Ultimate G, Ultimate G Diamond Edition, Sentria, Sentria II, Avalir, Avalir 2, has the same motor. It is 7.0 amps hose and 6.0 amps floor. The Kirby Ultimate G Diamond Edition has a Normal/Delicate switch. It is 7.0 amps hose and 6.0 amps floor on Normal speed and 5.0 amps hose and 4.0 amps floor on Delicate speed.
Gonna update my comment now that I’ve had more experience using Kirbys: They are cumbersome, heavy, loud, and not meant for people who are mechanically inept. If you are gonna buy one, take the time to learn how to use it. They are good when compared to bagless abominations, but many bagged ones are better options. The TechDrive helps when using it, but when the vacuums off its no benefit it only adds weight. They are great if you have wall-to-wall carpet and don’t need to use the hose often.
I have two Kirby's. One is just my old standby and it does a great job on some commercial carpeting I have in my basement if newer ones fail or need cleaned. It is very heavyso I never take it off that floor. The other one was totally refurbish by the owner some time ago and I have all the attachments and the carpet scrubber with all the attachments listed on Craigslist. I am down now to $119 and have had it listed for about ONE YR! My bubble is burst....lol
i have over the years collected a number of these vacuums and still have a really nice example of the tradition, heritage I, and a G6. there isnt allot of difference between all over them performance wise. the self propelled feature makes the G3 and newer easier to push but makes it heavier. i bought them all cheaply over the years and i think to buy one new and pay retail is just insane. they do have an exceptionally well made motor and if you dont suck up water they do have a very long life...... decades actually. if you DONT have money to buy a sebo, riccar, or miele then a craiglist or marketplace kirby is a much much better choice then a crappy shark, dyson or other walmart trash brand..... atleast it wont fall apart, and will do an adequate job cleaning. one time, years ago we did have someone show up once and tried to do a demo. we told them we already have multiple of these kirby vaccums and have nice day. they are a fairly decent vacuum but overpriced and not convenient
It snow-plowed a little bit. In use I would have lifted the machine 1 Toe-Touch and ran over a second time. 1 pass at proper height and 1 pass lifted up a notch.
@@PerformanceReviews Vacuum Facts had time to 'Fiddle' with the height adjustment in his reviews. Two passes with a canister or two passes with a Kirby, adjusted at two differing heights, is quite negligible. We all have time to adjust the Toe-Touch as Time is the only thing we are guaranteed of in this world, until the moment when it is gone.
I don't know what the world will look like in 2045 BUT a pretty sure bet is there will be several people vacuuming with a Kirby 2nd or 3rd Generation machine (and probably sewing on a 1940 Singer). Are Kirby vacs way over priced new - yes; do other vacs perform as well or better - probably. Are the sales tactics deplorable - YES BUT outlast --- NOPE, never. I have 2 aunts that clean weekly one uses a 1950s electrolux (all metal) the other uses a 1980s Kirby Heritage1. So please lets make sure when we talk longevity we are speaking in terms of 30, or even 60 years. As for plastic vs aluminum, very true about flexibility BUT if you are looking at a tool that you want to last 20-50 years Plastic is NOT it. Most plastics degrade over time, and it is a chemical degradation, you can't stop it no matter how well you take care of it. For proof look at headlights on older cars that dull haze is a chemical degradation. Or ask any sewing machine repairman why a singer touch and sew is worthless today, its because the plastic gears (that were quite and flexible in the 1970s) are so brittle from chemical degradation they are unusable today. Meanwhile an all metal black singer that was considered old obsolete technology back in 1950 is still today one of the best straight stitch machines you can use.
The reason Kirby’s aluminum housings sometimes become brittle has absolutely nothing to do with the fact they are made of that material or the age or those parts. Like the dated internal functional design of the Kirby vacuums is the complete lack structural reinforcement of those housing pieces. I watched this Performance Review guy’s service video on a Miele Jasper. If you look it up you’ll see as part of its plastic injection molded exterior housing internal criss cross ribbing at right angles to reinforce the parts. That very thing is what is lacking in the housing parts of the Kirbys, and that is exactly why they sometimes develop stress cracks in those aluminum pieces.
Yes, I can clearly see that you definitely like Kirbys - not based solely on the content in some of your other videos about them, but principally based upon your criticisms. The unspoken desire in your heart is to see them make major steps forward - even if that means a decided rethinking of the design concept, and approach they have long hung on to.
My gramma had an older red one that wasn't with a transmission. My first one was the Gen 3. Still have it! Already 20 years. I also have my father in laws green 6. They both are great machines. I have a custom (older) that doesn't compare to the Kirby. I have a Dyson stick that i love though
I have 3000 square feet of carpet to vacuum and having the power drive helps. I do agree that its not the top of the line compared to my Miele or Sebo but again the power drive is a help.
You definitely need to work on camera angles and lighting techniques to vastly improve your videography and show greater detail. With that said your content and thoroughness are outstanding. Thank you for this video review. You saved me from making a huge mistake. I have a friend who bought a Kirby with all the bells and whistles a few years back from a cute college student for well over 2 grand. He used it only a few times. He said he couldn’t part with it for less than 1 grand. I thought I was getting a good deal knowing how expensive they are. I have had a long long infatuation with owning one-almost a life-long dream based on the glowing comments of a couple people and an in-house demonstration. Well when you pointed out that they have changed little since 1989 I realized that it was the very early 90’s when I had formed my opinion about Kirby vacuums and it hasn’t changed until now. I’ll admit it felt like losing a body part knocking Kirby from the top of the hill in my mind. But no cognitive dissonance here nor brand loyalty. It comes down to facts. So now I am going to look elsewhere. Any suggestions from you for a top three in your mind for around 1grand and/or links to any of your reviews would be much appreciated. Again thank you for taking the time to make this video. EDIT I see your ZeroG review. Probably what I will get. I am coming off a Kenmore canister vacuum which I cannot get parts for any longer. It has served me well. I grew up with those types and am partial to robust vacuums running on 120 volts AC. My mom first having a Filter Queen and then a Kenmore canister vacuum. Again thank you.
Definitely not the first person to notice that I think you'll see the video quality has improved greatly since that video was made. Like this video here. th-cam.com/video/aJM4JtCWxv8/w-d-xo.html
Parwaz 786 I will say though SEBO and the like have a higher quality plastic my Mother has 10+ year old Dyson works well but the plastic cracks I have had to replace both handles on the unit the cyclone Handle and the wand handle
vwsaiphone that’s awesome, Sebos are really good I agree, the older Dysons had solid plastic which would crack and break when out under pressure especially in the UK where we had the oldest Dysons they had very brittle plastic Dyson learnt their lesson and changed to more flexible plastic and now there’s not much that breaks on Dysons nowadays 😁 bend the plastic and it’ll flex rather than snap
My Kirby held only for a year before my breakers popped up and then a magic smoke came out of the motor with a hum. I can't believe, why are they still being sold. I mean, my cheap cyclonic performed better in a carpet cleaning.
@@jackpemberton8269 Having an advertised lifetime warrant doesn't mean anything. Most companies have internal policies designed to allow the company to weasel out of as many RMAs as possible. That should be fully expected from a company with such a rich history of scummy business practices as Kirby. Plus, some things aren't worth going through warranty.
I would like to know how the Kirby stands up against the rainbow. Because I'm looking for the cheapest most efficient vacuum I can get raising two children on a fixed income that's three times lower than the average person who is on a fixed income. I heard the rainbow doesn't ever need a vacuum back is a completely sealed? I also heard you can vacuum up water with the rainbow because it already has water in the bottom of the bowl. Which I think would be good for cleaning my fireplace Last but not least watch is going to release the least amount of dust and dirt as you are vacuuming.
Neither Rainbows or Kirbys are cheap, unless you're buying used. If your budget is $100-300, you're better off getting a big box store vacuum. Look for ones that advertise SEALED HEPA. If it doesn't say that it's sealed, chances are good that it leaks a bit of dust.
I do use the blower a lot on my G6 to fill air mattresses. Outdated, maybe. But my Lux 6000 Upright (I am not finding Electrolux reviews here) is just as old but still currently practical and competitive.
He’s totally don’t pay the dealer price. I look at Kirby’s like I do cars, as long as it was taken care of and not abused I have no problem buying second hand. Honestly save your money and by used that’s how I’ve acquired all of mine.
I came here after a kirby demo to see what I missed. The salesman focused on the mattress and couch. I have a lot of dust but I don't think other vacuums can't get similar rezults in a demo. Ask was 2300EUR which is a normal vacuum a month for a long time. As for longevity, I've had an electrolux for 19years. And the one I have now - other brand - has a rotating brush for mattres. Without the buyer's remorse, I think your review is accurate and fair.
I inherited a Kirby and I agree that they're overpriced. With that being said, I took it into Vac City to have it checked out and I was looking at the Miele vacuums and was considering purchasing one, but the owner told me that I already had the very best vacuum cleaner available so, I just took his word for it, but I'm going to be watching your reviews to educate myself before I buy any new vacuum cleaner.
See you perfectly explained why I will never buy one of these. I had to barrow my mother in laws it wouldn’t pick up cat litter wouldn’t clean the bare floors didn’t even try the stairs. I have four animals in a busy house hold and this just doesn’t make sense for me to buy this. I have a dyson cinetic animal and allergy while it’s not perfect it does a damn good job with performance and versatility. but the motor has had an issue and thankfully they are honoring the warranty and it didn’t cost me a dime to send it out to get fixed. I think I might go the Miele route once it breaks out of warranty was going to go the Riccar route but after watching the video where you had issues with them I decided not to.
Were you using the carpet head or hose? With the carpet head you need to make sure you have a good belt. These stretch over time and therefore, once stretched, do not spin the brush properly if at all. I change mine when I notice it is not picking up the bird seed properly. Also, use the toe touch height to your advantage. For example, for large seed, nuts, whatever gets thrown on the floor, I start my first pass on a high setting so it can pick these up, then do another pass at the setting I like and finish the job. Also, make sure the bag is not overfull. It is easy to forget. However, for cat litter, a Roomba (they now have suction) might be a great choice as you can schedule it to run without human intervention other than cleaning the bin.
I had a Kirby senttria 2 for 20 sum years and just sold it because we got Harwood and it didn't work so good and this is a carpet vacuum and I think it cleaned are carpets so good it made it look like new every time and weight isn't that bad think about the Dyson balls there just as heavy and these Kirbys have lasted for 50+ years and they still works and I thought that Dyson lasted long until I had a Kirby
I have an avalir kirby vaccum and its dissapointing to see an expensive unit perform the same as others in the marker that is far cheaper than this brand. The sales guy will tell you so many things even telling you theres a lifetime free maintence for the unit not to mention the weight of this thing. I hope every one will see this video before even thingking of buying this vaccum.
It amazes me how ass hurt everyone gets over your opinion. Your points are valid... they just get so mad and have a run in place temper tantrum because it’s true. I like Kirby’s. They clean well enough but are exceedingly heavy too heavy for many people, they do a lot but none of what they do particularly well... plus the whole door to door sales is outdated as fuck.
It is truly amazing. I didn't expect it on this level. Thanks for watching and commenting Hank!
@@PerformanceReviews i bought a kirby ultimate g for $19 best $19 ever
@@TheVacuumWizard got you beat well I got a Sentra with pretty much all the attachments for free but for ones I paid for I spent 5 bucks on a Kirby g3 with pretty much all the attachments I also bought a classic omega along time ago for around the same price with all the atchments as well I think it was 5 bucks but it could of been 1 dollar lol
@@danielc.1227 i got you beat. i found a kirby g3 in the trash with all its tools hose zip brush sander set carpet shampoo set and floor wax new. not to mention i got a sentria out the trash with all its tools hose and shampoo set even had the owners paperwork.
@@TheVacuumWizard I found a Sentria out in the desert by a trail I walk on. Pretty clean and not damaged. No tools. But my parents owned an Ultimate G they no longer have, but had the tools. So I got those. I found 2 abandoned ones in an alley. Another Sentria and a G6. I haven't refurbished them. Definitely a future project.
I bought my G4 around 1990. My wife beat it like a rented mule. She was vacuuming 3 or more times a day.When she broke the fan blades I retired it to the basement for 20+ years.Watched a few videos and bought a new fan and belt.Adjusted the drive for the first time. Works like a new one ,try that with a newer vac.
even now kirby cleaners are the same easly repairable as back then
I've had G5 for almost 30 years, Mom bought it and now it's passed to me. I'm absolutely terrified of it, but it's kept the original carpets clean and in great condition. My belts last a few years, changed brush roller twice.
Change your belts more often. 3 months life maximum.
Could you explain how the kirby vacuums test so well on other review sites i.e. vaclab or vacuum wars? You've masked this video as a review when it's actually a bashing video. Kirbys are not perfect, but they are still very good vacuums. Particularly with carpet.
Kirby's do average in performance.
@@PerformanceReviews they do better than average it all comes down to the agitator , the kirbys have working airflow too
Thank you for posting this man is garbage?
35:41 When using a KIrby on hardwood floors, you don't lower the powerhead right to the floor. That's why there is a height adjustment. You lower the head for various thicknesses of different carpets so the patented design for airtight suction can do what it is designed to do. YOu don't need to deep clean a hardwood floor. You should leave a bit of space so it doesn't scratch the floor. Also, when vacuuming a bare floor, you do not need to use the beater brushes (which are for carpets).
Is it good friend e Berber carpet
My Kirby has been in my family for 50 years my dude and I've only changed that belt 3 times in that time frame. Plus I can use the Kirby to vacuum my bed which I often do it's useful asf. No other vacuum can do that reliably. Kirby op
Except a whole bunch of other machines 🤣😂
A lot of vacuums can do that too, stick vacuums for sure
I would imagine you have a machine that is extremely outdated doesn’t perform that great compared to modern stuff and the belt will be slipping more than the mother that made you
Something to consider. The weight of the Kirby lies mainly in the motor. I think that is true of most vacuums. The Hoover self propelled Windtunnel weighs about as much as the Kirby does, and it is made mostly of plastic. So why would an all plastic vacuum weigh so much if its supposed to be so much lighter than metal? The metal on a Kirby is lightweight aluminum, aluminum is lightweight by definition. Also, some Dyson's weigh quite a lot, and even Riccar's, all made of plastic. I know the metal on a Kirby doesn't add much to the weight because I tried to sell the metal to a metal scrapyard and I got very little for it since it didn't weigh a lot. I have had a lot of Kirby's apart and I can attest that most of the weight is in the motor itself, the armature and field coil. But no one ever mentions this, they just say its what the rest of the vacuum is made of. I have a consumer reports from a few years ago with vacuum comparisons. Their top 5 vacuums (Hoover Windtunnel Anniversary, Mele S Twist, Kirby Sentria, Kenmore Intuition, Meile S7260 Cat & Dog) all weigh over 20 pounds. But the only "heavy' vacuum according to collectors is the Kirby. I know the Kirby isn't perfect, but the statements that I see over and over are often not really true, or could be said of other vacuums. Oh, another thing that was said that didn't make much sense. It was said that the metal on a Kirby can get scratched, implying a plastic vacuum doesn't. So are you telling me you have never seen a scratched up plastic vacuum? I sure have, plenty, well, pretty much every one that has seen regular use.
I am saying that aluminum is a soft metal ,no more durable then plastic. The Hoover& Miele have a full set of on board tools and a hard bag compartment . That's where the weigh comes from .
I have an S7 Salsa and that's a valid point I heard a lot growing up. My S7 Salsa weighs the same as a Kirby
The aviler 2 is made from lexxon the same material used in NFL football ball helmets .
@@PerformanceReviews it's die cast aluminum. Same material used in airplanes 🤣
@@PerformanceReviews Huh? Aluminum is 'no more durable then plastic'? Utterly stupid.
So i did just buy a Kirby G4 off of ebay, $179.00 plus $86.00 shipping, supposedly rebuilt, it was an impulse buy because everyone said they were the best, I initially wanted a vacuum I was able to fix myself, I did notice a difference in suction, my old vacuum was an Electrolux Precision with brush roll clean and would fill up to the top after cleaning the living room, even plug the hose with dirt if the canister was full. I did use the kirby all day in two bedrooms and filled up the bag,no where as fast as my old Electrolux. If I could I would have bought another Electrolux Precision but they dont make those anymore. I might have kept shopping around if your review would have popped up, but when I researched Kirby, the youtube algorithm had a bunch of glowing reviews, I only found your channel through a reddit post. Excellent review!
I was raised with Kirbys. A 1965 Dual Sanitronic 50. I once had a cheaper Dirt Devil from WalMart. That's when I realized the difference between a Kirby and other brands. I agree Kirbys are far too heavy. I own 5 and the reason is is that I own 3 homes and two of those houses are 2 story so I am not lugging them up and downstairs. I've only bought them used, never paid more than $100 for a fully stocked one. I've only had one breakdown on me and that was a $75 fix. I think buying one used is a great purchase. BTW my mom is 89 and still uses her 1965 Dual Sanitronic 50. She complains every time how heavy it is. I've heard her complain about its weight since I was a kid in the 70s.Something tells me she's gonna stick with the Kirby anyway.
if you own 3 homes you might as well budget for a cleaner to come?
I've had a G4 that I inherited, and I think the belts have been changed twice. And I once had a new fan blade put in. It's fantastic for carpeting. But my house now has all hard floors and just a couple rugs. So I usually use it now mainly with the hose and hard floor attachments, which is kind of a pain. But I haven't had to change any of the gaskets or anything else on mine otherwise. It works flawlessly for about 27 years now
It's misleading to label this video as an Avalir 2 review when you aren't using an actual Avalir 2. This is more like a general Kirby vs. Other comparison. I'd like to see you use an Avalir 2 and review the carpet cleaning and bonus features.
The machine I used is mechanically identical as explained in the video. The color of the machine is that important to you, you probably would buy something else besides a Kirby. The shampooer is widely regarded as non-functional as it has no means of extraction
Yea all Kirbys built in the last 30-50 years have essentially the same exact parts and are exactly the same outside of how they look
@@mattafawka The Kirby is an excellent vacuum, but I would use my Hoover Shampooer instead of buying the shampooing attachment. I have a lot of friends with Kirbys and they own normal carpet cleaners.
The g6 came out initially in 1999, what does this have to do with the newest model m? Why is this labeled avalir 2? Vacuum is outdated, so is your biased opinion and obvious disgust with that model vacuum. It’s not just the color that is different when comparing the newest model and one from 1999. Kirby has the best suction and carpet agitation and sits next to my other shampooers that I have for deep cleaning. Biased and mislabeled for sure. Disappointed
@@ryanboyer5765 yup this dude is a joke lol
I've inherited an Avalir. I was utterly shocked at how much better it is than my dyson, especially for cat hairs and sock fluff. I haven't changed the belt yet or had to do any maintenance other than cleaning the roller - coming up for a year now. Only downside - using the tools is not nearly so convenient. I don't find the weight a problem with the drive mode and the performance is well worth it.
Would you pay $1,000 (after taxes) for one?
@@LordPhoenix140 No, I would not pay over $200 for one .
@@electrolux333 this is pretty personal. It depends on your ears. Personally I think my G3 sounds just a little bit louder than some other vacuums I’ve used. And I definitely don’t need ear plugs lol.
Kirby lasts forever this guy tryna make money on the side
@@PerformanceReviews you can't get a nice Bissell for 200
I appreciate what your saying I bought mine it is a Series 6 back in the 1990's brand new love it !! It has lasted many a pets and yes its heavy but it has out lasted my cordless vacuums for $200-300 get burned out after I use them. My Kirby has lasted all these years !!
I know video is old but just came across this. Just have to say I'm over a YEAR on the same belt. Are you vacuuming your gravel drive way??
Well you can drive your car a year without changing the oil too . But you don't want to do that. Preventive maintenance on these sorts of things are important!
I generally check my belt every 6 months. They stretch after awhile. They are cheap on eBay. Get the genuine Kirby belts as they are corrugated on the inside giving more friction. If Kirby isn't picking up like you expect, replacing the belt should do the trick. I have a G3 and Avalir.
Having repaired a lot of vacuum cleaners in my time, I can testify that your points are all valid. If I could afford a Sebo Felix or E3 I’d get one of those. That being said though, I like my Kirby, and would rather have my Kirby than a bypass shark, Dyson, or any other bagless tragedy out there.
Bagless and Kirby apples and oranges
What about rainbow ?
@@markybgxxx2066Those aren't comparable to these vacuums either. I had a D4. They're good vacuums, bulky, high maintenance. You have to dump the water and let it dry every time you use it, or it will rust the motor and smell bad. The separater needs to be washed every few uses. It's a lovely machine for cleaning all the surfaces in your home, but not a thing to whip out for quick cleaning jobs. If you actually enjoy vacuuming and tinkering with them though, then owning one will be enjoyable. Having one in an apartment was very cumbersome, so that's why I passed mine on to someone else.
@@jessicah3450 I got one E2 Type 12 / Black model and i am happy with it.
Hey! So I have been subscribed to your channel for some time now and very much enjoy your content. That being said, I do not agree with this particular video, I'm sorry. The vacuum is heavy and using attachments is cumbersome however, I do believe it is far better than any other vacuum on the market. You have to know how to properly use the machine in order to appreciate what it can do. Direct air machines do not have tons of suction but they have tons of airflow and that's what cleans. You had said about using the power nozzel on the hard floors - not designed for that. You would use the hose and hard floor to for that. The new Avalirs have 150 nozzle CFM and can run circles around any Dyson, Shark, etc.
Thanks for watching! I wouldn't use Dyson and shark as a standard. I would agree with you it's better than those machines but there are definitely many machines that run circles around this they retail for a lot less. Have you had a chance to use a SEBO,Miele or Lindhaus?
@@PerformanceReviews I haven't used those machines and I would not buy a Kirby new. They are certainly overpriced. On the used market however, you can score one pretty cheap and most people who buy them new do it on impulse and then regret the purchase later. I just bought a lightly used Avalir with unused attachments and shampoo system for $200 - and it works great. I used the hose for some cleaning tasks and I agree, there is not a lot of suction but there is tons of air flow and that's what cleans! The Kirby is a great machine and I'm sure Sebo etc are great vacuums as well however, I would not advise someone to not buy a Kirby just because it's big and heavy and has no suction. It's a different type of vacuum that does not rely on suction but rather air flow. Educate people on the type of vacuum it is and how it works and the application it is best suited for. For example, buy a Walmart vacuum if you want to clean off surface dirt only and rip up your carpet and vacuuming is not a priority. Buy a Kirby, Sebo, Miela etc if you want a deep down clean, vacuuming is a priority, and you want quality.
@@PerformanceReviews too bad sebo or miele only have 60 to 80 cfm but they seem good for onboard tool equiped uprights but I believe kirby outcleans them on carpet because of the direct air design while sebo or miele may have better tool suction performance.
Yo Kirby's the Rolls-Royce back you up on this and I was a Dyson early adopter and I can tell you this Dyson is a horrible product because you can't repair that s*** or even clean it without great effort and damage to the product ultimately
Yo the good reasons for owning a Kirby is that you can take it apart in a half second a fan replacement every 20 years cost 15 bucks and if you buy it it doesn't matter what year you brought it it's going to be a bad ass mother f*****
My dad has had his kirby heritage 2 since 88. Still runs great. Never bin torn down. Just changed belts and bags. So they do last. He paid 900 for it with the kirby cady off a salesman.
$900 is worth about $2100 today. You can buy 2 Sebo E3’s for that and each one of those cleans better than a bunk Kirby.
@@laxus8172 my old Kirby cleans pretty damn good. Guarantee those sebos won't last 30 year's. Everything is disposable now a days.
@@falgianibrandon Sebos are literally one of the most durable vacuums on the market. They come with a 10 year warranty. Same story with with miele, they come with a 7 year warranty. Kirby’s do last a while but they don’t last any longer the other top brands. Kirby’s also have horrible suction, so why pay that much for something with that kind of performance? You’re not getting anything special
@@laxus8172 Sebo is a great machine, but so is Kirby. Having repaired both brands, they are definitely quality vacuum cleaners. I would have to disagree that the suction is horrible on a Kirby because I have owned several and they have pretty powerful suction. I used a Sebo Automatic X1 in my home against my 2005 Kirby Diamond Edition. While the Sebo was lighter and had on-board tools, it didn't match the suction/ airflow of my Kirby Diamond Edition. It isn't unheard of to see a Kirby that is 90+ that still works. I own one that is 63-years-old and still works great. Both companies make plenty of parts to repair them when needed, but Kirby does still make parts for machines that are as old as the 1940s. I do love Sebo, especially the Felix, but I will always own a Kirby.
My G-Six has lasted 19 years of use now.
I still have my G5 with all the accessories including the sander.
Same here
I have a Tradition from 1980 that still runs great!
But the bag is a shake-out bag. So, not the best filtration, lol.
Get a used one under 100 and clean it up, add a new fan and brushroll. You will have decent vacuum for under 200 bucks.
That's why I have a titled Kirby budget vacuum video
I bought a 41 year old one (1979 made Tradition) for $5, and $75 total for the Accessory kit, hose, sweeper head/nozzle, belts, bags and parts to fully tune it up.
I wouldn’t buy one of these new, but the nostalgia of a vintage one is cool.
Even in cheap its still a shitty designed vacuum which belongs in the garbage.
There are technically better designed vacuums out there in the supermarkets for under 50 bucks new.
This Technical design is about 20 years out of time.
@@J0nni3👌🏽. I enjoy mine. 40 years old, and even with vacuums like Dyson’s and Miele’s, I still have not found anything else with something as practical and forward thinking as Kirby’s Emptor tray. You have fun taking an hour or so disassembling your vacuum to clear a clog because someone vacuumed something that they shouldn’t have, and I’ll clear my Kirby in less than a minute.
@@J0nni3 50 dollar bagless vacuums are fuckin pathetic compared to a kirby
If I spill breakfast cereal or cat litter, I'm not going to grab either the $1,000 Kirby or $800 Sebo. I'll grab the little $20 Black & Decker cordless that was designed to pick up those things. If I want to pull layers of disgusting gross allergens out of my carpets while grooming them so they look like new, I'll grab the direct suction Kirby or Oreck.
Defeats the purpose of owning a $1000.00 vacuum if you have to also own a cheaper one for materials it can't pick up
So this 20 yr old cleans up pretty well for its age.
What life expectancy can be expected from the other mfrs plastic models? I'm still happy using my kirby G4. Yes it is heavy but it doesn't go back packing with me. Being self propelled means weight not such a factor for single floor use. Hose installation is somewhat unhandy but workable.
20 years is about average for most reputable manufacturers.
I have a Kirby 519 that I had serviced not long ago and it stills runs like new .
Bought my G6 for $20. Unfortunately the metal is tarnished but it performs like a champ. Probably my favorite vacuum that I have.
That's the right price. Your user name and picture is disturbing!
@@PerformanceReviews lol.
Glitz polish will make it like new.
@@AlessandroVolta1 I'll have to try that out. Thanks for the suggestion
buff it out to a mirror(better then new) finish
Kirby's are built to last. I've had one for over 20yrs and it's by far the best vacuum I've purchased. Yes, it is heavier than it's plastic competitors but it will withstand the abuse of daily vacuuming. Takes a lot to put a Kirby out of commission, but parts are readily available if there is a mishap. I'd rather have a durable metal vac that can take a lick time to time than an expensive plastic vac that will break and have to be replaced...been there done that before purchasing my Kirby...haven't had to purchase another vac since. To each their own, I say🙂
Yes but most machines over $500 are built to last. Nothing a Henry, SEBO,Miele wouldn't do better and with less hassle and most of those tend to be tougher built with the more modern bypass design. Glad you've liked yours the past 20 years it'll last as longer then you wanted to.
@@PerformanceReviews Doesn't direct result in better airflow than bypass?
@@ZapDash It results in better airflow, yes, however, airflow is only half the equation. Kirbys have very lousy suction power as well as a floorhead that isn't designed particularly well. They struggle with heavy debris. They would do a lot better with some more suction power and floor head that was more aerodynamically designed. A lot of bypass machines clean better than Kirby's because they have a nozzle that's designed to take advantage of what suction and airflow they do have.
Plastic is meant to break
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Interesting review, but what sticks out to me is that the vaccum you're using in the video is the model from 20 years ago and it still looks brand new. Seems to me that would be a good selling point.
Believe me it didn't look like that when I got it check out this video on the restoration.
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@@PerformanceReviews The fact that you can actually restore these things back to like new condition is also a testament to it's quality and selling points. As well if you never redesign the main parts, that just means you can buy replacements for decades to come, a brand new modern motor can be installed into a 40 year old Kirby, and suddenly you have a (functionally) new vacuum.
Ya cause it's in the closet for 20 yrs
@@PerformanceReviews you prefer plastic construction over aluminum. Nuff said. You're obviously not very intelligent.
I personally like the design i wouldn't want it to change, i like the old school look and it's still the best around, personally think the Diamond was the best Kirby in recent years though i do love the that new shampoo system can also be used as a mop, and the look has changed over the years slightly, but either way it is still one of the best vaccums on the market so I'll take ability over look
Why the heck are you reviewing a Kirby G6 won the video title says Kirby avalir 2
Read the description of the video and listen to what I say there is no difference other than styling
I found a G6 at the curb, made in 2003. I took it and all it needed was a power cord. Spent 20 bucks on eBay. I’ll take Aluminum over cheap brittle plastic. Filter bag has pros and cons. The belt is I think the only biggest con. Otherwise. These vacuums will last and can be passed down.
I have 6 Kirby vacuum cleaners. They are a 1985 Heritage II, 1989 Legend II, 1991 Generation 3, 2004 Ultimate G Diamond Edition, 2007 Sentria, 2018 Avalir 2. The G3 was rebuilt by the Kirby Company in February 2021 and the DE was rebuilt by the Kirby Company in December 2019 and the SE was rebuilt by the Kirby Company in January 2016. There is absolutely no difference in performance between the G3 and the A2.
I have a Royal with the same belt system, and I only change the belt when it gets really loose which is maybe once or twice a year max.
Kirby vacuum cleaners started with the heritage 2 model in new zealand where i come from. My auntie brought a new kirby in 1988, only because the salesman said the vacuum will solve all my cousin's asthma issues, turned out not to be true, back in those days kirby vacuum cleaners did not have hepa filtration bags.
11:46 good point, I used my Kirby to vacuum up a lot of broken glass and I went through at least 2 or 3 belts
Didn’t want to use a clean air vacuum as it scratches up the ducting really badly, never vacuum up broken glass with a clean air vacuum you care about
I've used Miele Vacuums onregular basis to suck up broken glass without any problem.
Performance Reviews That’s good 👌 I just tried it with a Dyson DC33 ages ago and regretted it, all the insides were severely scratched and I wanted to keep it for my collection- sold it off as a result ahah
You can pick up glass with the Avalir 2 Kirby. I have done it a few times
@@shantel3780 it’ll snap the belt though, it works fine in hose mode
@@shantel3780 Good way to erode the plastic fan in the Kirby.Don't pick up glass frequently.
I agree that the Kirby Generation platform has been around for a long time, and every model they bring out is a re-hash of the same basic 1990 G3, and yes, they are dated now by todays standards, they are also heavy, and not very convenient for today's busy families, who want lightweight cordless machines to whip round with. You make some good points, but I think overall, the Kirby is still a good carpet cleaner (I own a G4, G7, and a H1), and worth having in a collection if you are a collector, but Kirby seriously do need to completely overhaul their design now, and bring it into the modern era. They need to make the Kirby lightweight, and have a hose built in at the very least, plus offering a small range of vacuums, rather than just one, would help - lets say a bagless version and a bagged, and even a cordless version for those who dont want the hassle of a cord.
I think the title of the video is a little misleading though, as you are not actually doing a review of an Avalir 2, but a G6, which although similar, is not an Avalir 2.
I've used many G10D 's and didn't really notice a difference other than a big vagina hole in the handle. If you'd like to lend me yours I'd be happy to do a video with it.
My spouse bought a Kirby before we were married, so I had no say in the high price, door sales, etc. I am handy, and have repaired the now 30+ yr old machine as needed. It's cheaper than buying a new unit. Yes, I replaced the plastic fan once, and we are very careful not to vacuum up a stray penny or marble (it will suck them up, but that's what breaks fan vanes). Once I thought the power switch had failed, but when I opened it up, it turned out I had BENT the metal link from the button to the switch. I straightened it, and now am careful not to stomp on the switch button. If I DID need a new vacuum, I would not buy a Kirby. Instead, I would get a machine that had more powerful suction. As for the weight, I view it as a dual-purpose cleaning & workout machine. Finally, his suggestion of buying USED is good.
I've had a Kirby for 15 years and changed the belt 3 times. I do like the honest video though. Like a Chevy man selling a Ford.
Belts stretch after being on for a week think about it
Never buy a car from this guy
Interesting to see side by side tests with the Meile. At the end of the day though, the two machines are completely different and it's hard to compare them since the motors designs are different along with the power they use. I understand what you were trying to show though since Kirby markets their machines as an all in one. I personally like them for carpet cleaning but that's about it and I think that's what the majority of their fan base likes them for. They'll never compare to the suction of a bypass vacuum like the Meile just because of what they are. Having said that, I would bet the Kirby would have an advantage for fine particles in carpet over most new bypass uprights and canister vacs. It may not perform as well with surface dirt aka larger objects but it will certainly get the fine dirt with it's agitation and even distribution of airflow.
Now, do I think they're worth buying new? No. You can find excellent condition used ones for great prices on eBay and some people give them away for free! I personally like the older Kirbys without the self propel. I've had a G3 and a Heritage II in the past and both worked great but the Heritage II was much more compact. I don't have either of them anymore though. In fact, the only vacuum I've held on to out of every direct air vacuum I've owned is my 1989 Royal Classic. I've owned several Hoover Convertibles, a Eureka ESP, and I always liked the Royal the best out of all of them. It always did the best job with surface dirt and fine dirt and it's more compact and effortless to push compared to the Kirbys. I use it along my Sebo X4 Automatic and Simplicity Synergy. The Sebo does a great job, but the Simplicity, with the tandem air design, is about the only newer vacuum I've used that cleans carpet as well as the Royal or better. I will say the newer machines obviously are superior for filtration plus they have the attachments, but I still love my old Royal.
Actually he converted the Kirby into its canister mode, therefore they were in an identically mode. As a longtime collector I've owned or used every Kirby sence it's inception. I've pitted them against dozes of other vacuum both upright and canisters. In a mojority of the testes the other vacuums did much better. Unfortunately Kirby just isn't as good a vacuum cleaner as many other vacuum cleaners.
I have a Royal 2028 that was made in 2002, and I agree that they are excellent deep cleaners. I have owned a variety of vacuums in my lifetime and my two favorite brands are Royal and Kirby. I do like Sebo, Miele and Lindhaus, but I am old-fashioned when it comes to vacuum cleaners. I use my Kirbys more than my Royal, because I have hardwood, tile and vinyl in my home. There are large area rugs, too, and it is more convenient to use my Kirbys or my Oreck Commercial to clean them. Since my grandmother passed away, we have been working in her house: painting, remodeling, etc. I will be using the Royal in her house, because there is a lot of carpet there. It is currently covered up with sawdust and other debris, and I know the Royal will make short work of that. I have used it and my Diamond Edition Kirby in her house, and the Royal grooms the carpet a bit better.
Can you illustrate how air filtration on a bypass machine compares to a Kirby?
Maybe the brushroll or height is not set correctly if it is chewing through belts that fast. That is not normal.
Maybe you don't understand the maintenance schedule
@@PerformanceReviewsAfter watching more of your videos and working on some vacuums that belong to family and friends, I think I must be gentler with my vacuums than the average consumer. I change the belt on my G7 every 6 months or
so, even though the indicator light doesn't flicker. 1-4 months seemed like a lot. But you're right, I'm also not a repair person, I'm just tinkering on vacuums for fun.
You’ve confirmed my experience with my Kirby: it’s just okey as a vacuum and requires too much fiddling. It’s useless on floors. Although I love the self-propelled, heft, and retro aluminum look, its below-average performance it’ isn’t worth the hassle.
That about some of the whole video off in comment. 👍 Thanks for watching. If you're looking to replace it you might take a look at some of the German manufacturers.
I worked for kirby for like a week and when they told me I had to go door to door and convince people to pay 1300 + for a vacuum I never came back 🤣🤣 I thought I was applying for phone service rep at the time 😂 I just turned 18 at the time. Like I'm not going door to door like a 1950s sales person.. You can get shot now a days just walking up to a strangers yard so I hope they have changed their sales techniques the door sales man is outdated in 2020.. Unless your delivering a package and have a uniform I don't like anyone just randomly showing up at my house so I didn't want to be the sales person doing that to someone else considering I don't like it.
Exactly. Every thing you just said 💯 percent true. I was only there for 1 full day eandit was torture trying to get people to buy the $1200 vacuums
They are still doing it in 2023, the same door to door marketing. But in my country it's 2600 euro
Do you think a Kirby could extend the life of a carpet enough to be worth the price of purchase? (The second floor of my house is all carpet, bottom floor is all hardwood.)
Any quality vacuum will extend the life of your. Check out the carpet and rug institute list of approved vacuums to get an idea. But plenty of vacuums out clean the Kirby for less money.
The Kirby is way more than just a vacuum it can wax your hardwood floors it can fluff up your matted down carpet it can shampoo your stairs and regular carpet and the newer versions can also scrub your hardwood floors and do a ton of different things that a regular vacuum can not do
I work on them to and I’ll tell you when it come to fixing vacuums the Kirby is easy to fix if broken others take a lot more to fix because of the way they are manufactured
I inherited a house where the carpet was installed around 1978. Not planning on replacing until I do some renovations. The Kirby plus rug renovator make it look pretty good. At least I know it pulls the dirt away from the hardwood floor beneath. I can see that because a corner of the carpet is loose and the hardwood is clean. On my hard floors I use a Roomba. I can schedule it to clean and do something else with my time.
@@PerformanceReviews Interesting that you mentioned the Carpet & Rug Institute... Very few models (including Sebo/Windsor which are silver/bronze at best) make it into their gold certification. Kirby was in the Gold Certification (when they were paying to be listed). This indicates the highest level of cleaning. Consumer Reports also listed the Kirby (in specific product description) as deep cleaning better than any other vacuum they have tested. I actually prefer Miele canisters for convenience (not a Kirby fanboy), but something seems clearly off regarding the cleaning results you are mentioning (on carpet) that you are describing with the Kirby. Again - if anything, I am a Miele (canister) fan, but I can acknowledge the somewhat overwhelming number of tests (professional) and by respected groups (CRI) that place the Kirby carpet cleaning performance ahead of almost any of the other well known uprights out there on. I do wish Miele participated as I am VERY curious how the Miele canisters with the SEB228 head would perform in their tests. Miele canisters are my (much) preferred systems...
Can you do a video just like this on a rainbow vacuum? I’m curious to hear your thoughts.
That's in the works stay tuned
The Kirby vacuum cleaner is "marketed exclusively door-to-door - often to people who cannot afford a $2700 gadget, but succumb to the sales pitch nonetheless." In 2001, the West Virginia Attorney General obtained thousands in refunds and credits for dissatisfied Kirby buyers. It’s claimed to last a lifetime, but the warranty is only 3 years ( 2 year less then Dysons 5 year warranty)
I know this is an old video but I have recently been searching for vacuums to purchase. Ended up settling on the Dyson Animal 3. I had a Kirby handed down to me when I moved to my first house. I remember being a kid when the salesman came to our home. He had a piece of black cloth and vacuumed my parents mattress showing the dead skin thay they were sleeping on. Needless to say they bought it for I am sure at least 800 back in the 90s. That being said I enjoyed using the Kirby but I would love to see the bin on a Dyson after vacuuming someones house that has only used a Kirby.
33:10 that canister vacuum doesn’t have a brush roll either
Lol I just got a Kirby g5 at good will I'm working on it
You are right that the G6 and the heritage 2 perform the same in deep cleaning but some where at least starting with the diamond edition they started bumping up the airflow and the deep cleaning increases a little and Kirby’s are one of the best deep cleaners and Sanitaire has the best chance of deep cleaning better because of the cfm difference with 140 Kirby cfm now with the newer ones vs the around the 170 cfm Sanitaire airflow. Kirby is not for everyone but they are still good for carpet cleaning and the attachment performance is actually good compared to something like my filter queen.
The sanitaire out cleans and Kirby because of brush brush roller design more than anything.
They are not THAT good at deep cleaning. Recently replaced my carpets and there had to be a beach full of sand under it despite using the Kirby G6 on the carpets since new. Don't believe the sales guys when they tell you it sucks up everything under the carpet. I have filled a Miele Maverick bag in under 4 days with the junk my G6 didn't get.
@@yxflier8409 Did you change the belt? Check to see if your belt is loose. If it is you are not going to get the results you are hoping for. Also make sure your bag fill does not exceed the line on the bag.
Now, I understand why you put Kirby Vacuums in the windmill brain category. I have a mixed bag of carpet and hardwood floors and carpet in my own home making a Kirby an unsuitable vacuum. However, the Lindhaus I have has agitation that pretty much rivals a Kirby and has more water lift.
A little to much " negative" vib going on from the start of this video It's quite clear from the beginning you do not like Kirby vacuums, and you keep talking about the poor airflow compared to " modern" vacuums, but tests I have seen show the Kirby pulling more than DOUBLE Dyson's best vacuum cleaner. And you fail to mention such facts as our Kirby generation three has been in service for nearly 30 years! and still going strong compared to the plastic bull shit that may last 3 years....
Quite the contrary I love Kirby Vacuums. They're just not practical for today's market. Not a bad deal if you pick up one used $25. But definitely can't compete with modern machines.
You named Dyson which is one of the worst names in vacuums so of course it's better than that. I also say most "plastic" machines do last about 20 years. you often see some machines that are plastic that last even longer than Kirby.
You don't have anything to say about Kirby's plastic internals where all the dust goes through. Sounds like you haven't used very many vacuums. I'd encourage you to go to your local vacuum store and see the modern market of vacuum cleaners.
@@PerformanceReviews no you don't and i'm going to tell kirby company that you don't like them
LOL!!!
What is the opening size of the working water lift gauge? I mean the small hole end of the unit. I have just one direct air vacuum and rest of my vacuums are bypass vacuums.
I would have to measure it but it is commercially available from vacuflo ,they probably have that on their website.
I'm an engineer and this is the best designed machine and longest lasting product on the market, there is absolutely no opinion that can argue with the science..
Lol You haven't looked at the market. There are plenty of options from Europe that have double the lifespans with bypass motors. Then there are Central Vacuums which run about the same about of money.
@@PerformanceReviews I'm in the vacuum business, I know what's on the market..
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What kind of engineer, a software engineer? It’s unclear because your takes on Kirby vacuums are just ignorant, not to mention unsubstantiated.
Oh that sound is unmistakable. The sound that Kirbies make is why I hated vacuums as a kid.
I own several kirby machines in the UK and the machines themselves i find very good - great build quality and a solid performance.The one thing i dont agree on however is the over the top array of extra attatchments - most in society today are just not needed! Yes supply a hose and tools for the hose end and ok maybe a turbo pet brush but nothing more - i have 5 kirbys that take up very little room but then a whole room needed to store all their attachments!
Bro kirby is the best performer! I mean your right it’s not the best performer on picking up heavy objects on top of the carpet because Kirby’s don’t have good suction but it has the best airflow which is more important so Kirby’s are normally designed for the best deep cleaner!!!
Best is always relevant especially when you try a lot of other machines and see a lot of results. I can definitely say there are other vacuums that cost a lot less that clean a lot better and will Outlast the this Kirby.
@@PerformanceReviews like what?
Check out the SEBO Felix for instance.
@@PerformanceReviews not second hand which is how most kirbys are obtained...
@@PerformanceReviews Sebo Felix is outstanding.
Here's the thing your not actually doing a review on the aviler 2. The 2 has is more powerful and lighter as well
Exactly the same amount of power and a half ounce lighter
My G5 goes a through a belt every year and it’s used at least 5 times a week.
You're putting unnecessary where on your brush roller and motor shaft by doing that. Change it every 3 to 6 months at least if you're in a wetter climate. For the rest of us who are in a dryer climate it needs to be changed every 1 to 3 months
i dont know where you get this belt changing nonsense from .I fit a new belt when either the green light stops working or the thing snaps .
🤣 Years on the bench . Let's me know when they're going to break. What's your suggesting Is waiting to your motor stops running until you change your oil on your car. You probably have already caused damage to your vacuum cleaner.
My parents purchased a Kirby in 1959. I am getting ready to use it today. They are built to last. Kirby is the only vacuum that I will ever use. I did buy a G5 and absolutely love it. We have only had to service mom's Kirby one time since I got it from her in 1990. Great Vacuum. A vacuum cleaner is a vacuum cleaner. A Kirby is a sand extractor. It will make carpets last longer because of the way they are design. Mom's carpets were brand new in 1977 and was 30 years old when it was replaced by the real estate investor that purchased it after her death. No sand or grit at the base of the carpet when they took it up.
This man is not using this Kirby cleaner properly. There is nothing he can tell me. You can't tell me anything.
Drinking the Kool-Aid strong.
I’ve been told by my Kirby dealer that the main difference between the avalir 1 and 2 and the sentria 1 and 2 is the 2 HP motor in the avalir (compared to the 1hp in the sentria 2 down to the g3). I’m not sure if that’s true or who told him that, but if he was told that then someone must’ve misheard something somewhere or lied to him.
They all have the same Motor . Never trust a Kirby salesman.
Performance Reviews ah. I kind of figured as much. To Kirby’s credit though, they have made some tweaks to the design like the new mini-emtor to improve airflow, the improved tech drive (my sentria’s sounds much different from this GSix), the f-style bags, etc. I believe that Kirby seems to play with design and tweak it here and there with their models. It may not explain much like how Kirby recolored the later sentria to rebrand it as the sentria 2, but I see this as mainly steps towards a new design. Of course, your opinion may be different, but that’s how I see it. This really isn’t something new, they kind of did it with the 505-519 and 560-562 models where they re released them every year and the only major changes being with models 505 (obviously), 510, 516, and (IIRC) 561. I think they did something similar pre-war too, but I can’t remember.
The Improvement to air flow is less than 20 CFM rather small number . Nothing noticeable in the Kirby G6 has the same air flow path .
They do not all have the same Motor. I sell kirbys. We do not lie about the differences in kirbys. The fan system is different in each one make the airflow and suction better than the last one. This guy is a prick and lying about Kirby people. I sell the Avalir 2
The Kirby Generation 3, G4, G5, Gsix, Ultimate G, Ultimate G Diamond Edition, Sentria, Sentria II, Avalir, Avalir 2, has the same motor. It is 7.0 amps hose and 6.0 amps floor. The Kirby Ultimate G Diamond Edition has a Normal/Delicate switch. It is 7.0 amps hose and 6.0 amps floor on Normal speed and 5.0 amps hose and 4.0 amps floor on Delicate speed.
Gonna update my comment now that I’ve had more experience using Kirbys:
They are cumbersome, heavy, loud, and not meant for people who are mechanically inept. If you are gonna buy one, take the time to learn how to use it. They are good when compared to bagless abominations, but many bagged ones are better options. The TechDrive helps when using it, but when the vacuums off its no benefit it only adds weight. They are great if you have wall-to-wall carpet and don’t need to use the hose often.
I have two Kirby's. One is just my old standby and it does a great job on some commercial carpeting I have in my basement if newer ones fail or need cleaned. It is very heavyso I never take it off that floor. The other one was totally refurbish by the owner some time ago and I have all the attachments and the carpet scrubber with all the attachments listed on Craigslist. I am down now to $119 and have had it listed for about ONE YR! My bubble is burst....lol
i have over the years collected a number of these vacuums and still have a really nice example of the tradition, heritage I, and a G6. there isnt allot of difference between all over them performance wise. the self propelled feature makes the G3 and newer easier to push but makes it heavier. i bought them all cheaply over the years and i think to buy one new and pay retail is just insane.
they do have an exceptionally well made motor and if you dont suck up water they do have a very long life...... decades actually. if you DONT have money to buy a sebo, riccar, or miele then a craiglist or marketplace kirby is a much much better choice then a crappy shark, dyson or other walmart trash brand..... atleast it wont fall apart, and will do an adequate job cleaning.
one time, years ago we did have someone show up once and tried to do a demo. we told them we already have multiple of these kirby vaccums and have nice day. they are a fairly decent vacuum but overpriced and not convenient
It snow-plowed a little bit. In use I would have lifted the machine 1 Toe-Touch and ran over a second time. 1 pass at proper height and 1 pass lifted up a notch.
Who has time for that when vacuums 1/2 automatically adjust
@@PerformanceReviews Vacuum Facts had time to 'Fiddle' with the height adjustment in his reviews. Two passes with a canister or two passes with a Kirby, adjusted at two differing heights, is quite negligible. We all have time to adjust the Toe-Touch as Time is the only thing we are guaranteed of in this world, until the moment when it is gone.
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I don't know what the world will look like in 2045 BUT a pretty sure bet is there will be several people vacuuming with a Kirby 2nd or 3rd Generation machine (and probably sewing on a 1940 Singer). Are Kirby vacs way over priced new - yes; do other vacs perform as well or better - probably. Are the sales tactics deplorable - YES BUT outlast --- NOPE, never. I have 2 aunts that clean weekly one uses a 1950s electrolux (all metal) the other uses a 1980s Kirby Heritage1. So please lets make sure when we talk longevity we are speaking in terms of 30, or even 60 years. As for plastic vs aluminum, very true about flexibility BUT if you are looking at a tool that you want to last 20-50 years Plastic is NOT it. Most plastics degrade over time, and it is a chemical degradation, you can't stop it no matter how well you take care of it. For proof look at headlights on older cars that dull haze is a chemical degradation. Or ask any sewing machine repairman why a singer touch and sew is worthless today, its because the plastic gears (that were quite and flexible in the 1970s) are so brittle from chemical degradation they are unusable today. Meanwhile an all metal black singer that was considered old obsolete technology back in 1950 is still today one of the best straight stitch machines you can use.
The reason Kirby’s aluminum housings sometimes become brittle has absolutely nothing to do with the fact they are made of that material or the age or those parts. Like the dated internal functional design of the Kirby vacuums is the complete lack structural reinforcement of those housing pieces. I watched this Performance Review guy’s service video on a Miele Jasper. If you look it up you’ll see as part of its plastic injection molded exterior housing internal criss cross ribbing at right angles to reinforce the parts. That very thing is what is lacking in the housing parts of the Kirbys, and that is exactly why they sometimes develop stress cracks in those aluminum pieces.
This video should be titled “Why I hate Kirby”. Lol. Aside from the turbo whining, Kirby is a great vacuum. I own many.
Yeah but I clearly don't hate them.
As seen in this and many other videos.
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Yes, I can clearly see that you definitely like Kirbys - not based solely on the content in some of your other videos about them, but principally based upon your criticisms. The unspoken desire in your heart is to see them make major steps forward - even if that means a decided rethinking of the design concept, and approach they have long hung on to.
Bottom line which cleaner is most recommended please?
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how do you compare a kirby that’s used and leaking dust?
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Because carpet is on the way out?
The carpet is two years old buddy at least when the video was made
I'm using this g5 that is apparently over 20 years old and this thing is amazing.... it's my moms lol
My gramma had an older red one that wasn't with a transmission. My first one was the Gen 3. Still have it! Already 20 years. I also have my father in laws green 6. They both are great machines. I have a custom (older) that doesn't compare to the Kirby. I have a Dyson stick that i love though
I have 3000 square feet of carpet to vacuum and having the power drive helps. I do agree that its not the top of the line compared to my Miele or Sebo but again the power drive is a help.
Sounds like you need a central vacuum.
@@PerformanceReviews Yeah so you can drag a 20+ foot hose everywhere you go. Oh, don't forget how loud it is.
Good thing you have a central vac with EBT 360 powerhead
@@charlenesanders4918 Central Vacuum a lot quieter than normal Vacuums and they also perform a lot better
@@VacMaster2020 Not true. Just drive by a house with garage door open while someone is vacuuming. My sister has one and I am not impressed.
silicone... rotting? please M8
Rotted away by Dust and debris mostly
Performance Reviews yes
what kind of numbers do the central vacs get with the water meter?
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I have a Kirby classic omega I bought yesterday for 50.00 and it works like new. Just needs a belt for it and it will be new
Filtrations a major issue with that you don't want to run that inside with the dump out bag.
You definitely need to work on camera angles and lighting techniques to vastly improve your videography and show greater detail. With that said your content and thoroughness are outstanding. Thank you for this video review. You saved me from making a huge mistake. I have a friend who bought a Kirby with all the bells and whistles a few years back from a cute college student for well over 2 grand. He used it only a few times. He said he couldn’t part with it for less than 1 grand. I thought I was getting a good deal knowing how expensive they are. I have had a long long infatuation with owning one-almost a life-long dream based on the glowing comments of a couple people and an in-house demonstration. Well when you pointed out that they have changed little since 1989 I realized that it was the very early 90’s when I had formed my opinion about Kirby vacuums and it hasn’t changed until now. I’ll admit it felt like losing a body part knocking Kirby from the top of the hill in my mind. But no cognitive dissonance here nor brand loyalty. It comes down to facts. So now I am going to look elsewhere. Any suggestions from you for a top three in your mind for around 1grand and/or links to any of your reviews would be much appreciated. Again thank you for taking the time to make this video. EDIT I see your ZeroG review. Probably what I will get. I am coming off a Kenmore canister vacuum which I cannot get parts for any longer. It has served me well. I grew up with those types and am partial to robust vacuums running on 120 volts AC. My mom first having a Filter Queen and then a Kenmore canister vacuum. Again thank you.
Definitely not the first person to notice that I think you'll see the video quality has improved greatly since that video was made. Like this video here.
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@Performance Reviews yes they have! I did get the ZeroG today based off your reviews.
What vacuums do you recommend over Kirby's? I can't click on the link
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2:04 that’s why Dyson use the plastics that they do 😁
Parwaz 786 oh fuck lol
Parwaz 786 I will say though SEBO and the like have a higher quality plastic my Mother has 10+ year old Dyson works well but the plastic cracks I have had to replace both handles on the unit the cyclone Handle and the wand handle
vwsaiphone that’s awesome, Sebos are really good
I agree, the older Dysons had solid plastic which would crack and break when out under pressure especially in the UK where we had the oldest Dysons they had very brittle plastic
Dyson learnt their lesson and changed to more flexible plastic and now there’s not much that breaks on Dysons nowadays 😁 bend the plastic and it’ll flex rather than snap
Oh, puhlease.
Ethel Ryan Yes? 😏
It really sucks but I got tired of constantly having to adjust the height and take the carpet nozzle off and on to switch to bare floors.
My Kirby held only for a year before my breakers popped up and then a magic smoke came out of the motor with a hum. I can't believe, why are they still being sold. I mean, my cheap cyclonic performed better in a carpet cleaning.
You are aware Kirby has a lifetime warranty
@@jackpemberton8269 It's not all about a warranty.
3 years
@@jackpemberton8269 Having an advertised lifetime warrant doesn't mean anything. Most companies have internal policies designed to allow the company to weasel out of as many RMAs as possible. That should be fully expected from a company with such a rich history of scummy business practices as Kirby.
Plus, some things aren't worth going through warranty.
I would like to know how the Kirby stands up against the rainbow. Because I'm looking for the cheapest most efficient vacuum I can get raising two children on a fixed income that's three times lower than the average person who is on a fixed income. I heard the rainbow doesn't ever need a vacuum back is a completely sealed? I also heard you can vacuum up water with the rainbow because it already has water in the bottom of the bowl. Which I think would be good for cleaning my fireplace Last but not least watch is going to release the least amount of dust and dirt as you are vacuuming.
Neither Rainbows or Kirbys are cheap, unless you're buying used. If your budget is $100-300, you're better off getting a big box store vacuum. Look for ones that advertise SEALED HEPA. If it doesn't say that it's sealed, chances are good that it leaks a bit of dust.
I love my 2 Kirbys
I do use the blower a lot on my G6 to fill air mattresses. Outdated, maybe. But my Lux 6000 Upright (I am not finding Electrolux reviews here) is just as old but still currently practical and competitive.
Wear a dust mask when you do it and do it outside.
Where a lttle pink boll?
Never, ever buy ANYTHING other than Girl Scout Cookies from door-to-door sales people.
Mmmhh 🍪🍪🍪🍪 Cookies
i have older model and it is still working for 13 years
Edit: still working
He’s totally don’t pay the dealer price. I look at Kirby’s like I do cars, as long as it was taken care of and not abused I have no problem buying second hand. Honestly save your money and by used that’s how I’ve acquired all of mine.
I like my Miele... Kirby was a Vacuum during the whole house carpet days of the 1960s.. Most people have wood floors now..
Kirby can vacuum things like the real kirby from nintendo games
Forty five years so far without a hitch.
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I've had my Kirby for forty five years. I've replaced belts and four brushrolls but it has never needed a repair.
All I got to say a really good vacuum not the best but a really good vacuum.
I came here after a kirby demo to see what I missed. The salesman focused on the mattress and couch. I have a lot of dust but I don't think other vacuums can't get similar rezults in a demo. Ask was 2300EUR which is a normal vacuum a month for a long time. As for longevity, I've had an electrolux for 19years. And the one I have now - other brand - has a rotating brush for mattres.
Without the buyer's remorse, I think your review is accurate and fair.
I inherited a Kirby and I agree that they're overpriced. With that being said, I took it into Vac City to have it checked out and I was looking at the Miele vacuums and was considering purchasing one, but the owner told me that I already had the very best vacuum cleaner available so, I just took his word for it, but I'm going to be watching your reviews to educate myself before I buy any new vacuum cleaner.
Yeaaaa. I think I’ll keep my Miele..
good on you keep your miele. I hate kirbys with a passion. worth more than scrap metal all kirbys need to be melted down
See you perfectly explained why I will never buy one of these. I had to barrow my mother in laws it wouldn’t pick up cat litter wouldn’t clean the bare floors didn’t even try the stairs. I have four animals in a busy house hold and this just doesn’t make sense for me to buy this. I have a dyson cinetic animal and allergy while it’s not perfect it does a damn good job with performance and versatility. but the motor has had an issue and thankfully they are honoring the warranty and it didn’t cost me a dime to send it out to get fixed. I think I might go the Miele route once it breaks out of warranty was going to go the Riccar route but after watching the video where you had issues with them I decided not to.
Were you using the carpet head or hose? With the carpet head you need to make sure you have a good belt. These stretch over time and therefore, once stretched, do not spin the brush properly if at all. I change mine when I notice it is not picking up the bird seed properly. Also, use the toe touch height to your advantage. For example, for large seed, nuts, whatever gets thrown on the floor, I start my first pass on a high setting so it can pick these up, then do another pass at the setting I like and finish the job. Also, make sure the bag is not overfull. It is easy to forget. However, for cat litter, a Roomba (they now have suction) might be a great choice as you can schedule it to run without human intervention other than cleaning the bin.
Don’t knock the Kirby vacuum cleaners mate
I know that's dangerous territory
Wish one is better a Kirby or a Electrolux
Neither are particularly modern and worth your harder and cash today. The answer to that question is SEBO or Miele.
Your just going after ratings, there are better working vacuums these days. Of coarse you have to buy one every 4 years. 😢
I had a Kirby senttria 2 for 20 sum years and just sold it because we got Harwood and it didn't work so good and this is a carpet vacuum and I think it cleaned are carpets so good it made it look like new every time and weight isn't that bad think about the Dyson balls there just as heavy and these Kirbys have lasted for 50+ years and they still works and I thought that Dyson lasted long until I had a Kirby
You're probably find this video useful.
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Try returning it, good luck
I doubt a door to door salesman would let you return it.
I have an avalir kirby vaccum and its dissapointing to see an expensive unit perform the same as others in the marker that is far cheaper than this brand. The sales guy will tell you so many things even telling you theres a lifetime free maintence for the unit not to mention the weight of this thing. I hope every one will see this video before even thingking of buying this vaccum.