“Speechless from fright and exhaustion” - Joseph Smith brings the golden plates home | Ep. 197
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- In this episode, David talks about Joseph’s recovery of the golden “Book of Mormon” plates, largely through the eyes of the first people to receive the record into their home-Joseph’s own family.
Video transcript: saintsunscript...
- “Biographical Sketches of Joseph Smith the Prophet, and His Progenitors for Many Generations,” by Lucy Mack Smith: bit.ly/3lkTpnC
- “Close Friends as Witnesses: Joseph Smith and the Joseph Knight Families,” by William G. Hartley (BYU Studies): bit.ly/40fIw5s
- “A True Treasure Chest,” by Heidi Bennett, via the Church’s website: bit.ly/3n3d0sI
- “Interactive Map: Smith Family Farm and Sacred Grove,” via the Church’s website: bit.ly/3lblyxp
Notes:
- I like this statement from William Smith: “All believed it was true, father, mother, brothers and sisters. You can tell what a child is. Parents know whether their children are truthful or not. The proof of the pudding is not in chewing the string, but in eating the pudding. Father knew his child was telling the truth.” Source: “The Old Soldier’s Testimony,” sermon by William Smith, June 8, 1884 (reported by C. E. Butterworth), published in Saints Herald, Oct. 4, 1884, pg. 643.
- This source (link below) suggests that Joseph left the plates in the birch log for about 10 days, though other sources disagree with that estimate. Lucy Mack Smith seems to suggest a much shorter time span. The same source also estimates that Joseph recovered the plates from a spot on the hill about 30 to 40 “rods” from the road (Canandaigua Rd.). Keep in mind that this is an antagonistic, non-first-hand source that contradicts some other accounts. It should be read with a healthy amount of skepticism. Source: bit.ly/3TwXAJv
- Joseph likely took Canandaigua Rd. (Route 21 S) when bringing the plates home, but soon left the road (for safety reasons) and traveled through the woods.
- Lucy Mack Smith adds the interesting detail that after the plates had been brought home, Joseph “commenced work with his Father on the farm in order to be near the treasure that was commited to his care….” Source: bit.ly/3neccSg
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It’s cool that his brothers were on board with helping him. that alone is saying something
Have you read about Hyram's attendance at Dartmouth College? I didn't know. He attended daily religion classes just like what is required at the Y. When he came home, he discussed a lot with Joseph on what he was learning. It was the Dr's from the medical school who worked on Jospeh's leg.
Another fantastic video! I love that you’re doing this series leading up to the 200th anniversary of the angel Moroni’s first visit.
Great video! I love how you always provide so many cited sources. And your production value is awesome and super entertaining. Keep it up!
Thanks!
You do such an excellent job ! I so appreciate the research and presentation. Please continue many more!
We will, thanks!
It’s crazy that so many people cared about something that others claimed was made up!
It's because they had a very legitimate reason to claim that. Check out what Dr Walter Martin and Hank Hanegraaf wrote about this issue!
@@QuincyDisneyVegan listen, you can believe what you want, but I get my cues from the Holy Spirit, who testified to me that the Book of Mormon was the word of God. I don’t know for sure where it came from, but I can’t deny what the Spirit has told me. I don’t think a bald-faced liar could produce the word of God (not to be confused with the Word of God, which is Jesus Christ).
@@QuincyDisneyVeganTrying to reason someone away from a position they did not reason themselves into is a waste of time and effort.
Great video! Really enjoyed this one :)
Glad you enjoyed it!
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Loved this! Using it for a Seminary lesson. What movie were the clips from?
I was trying to find that movie of Joseph running through the woods, fighting off attackers. No luck!
Well done!
My favorite story was of JS running through the forest with the plates under his arm. He had to jump over logs and run through the forest like OJ Simpson at his peak scoring a touchdown.
Poor Joseph. But also... Awesome Joseph!
He obviously wasn't cursed with my families genetics of weak ankles, clumsy disposition, and rampant lack of filter.
I imagine a Joseph Smith version of someone in my family stumbling through the woods, tripping on flat ground, cursing and crying, and being like "Aw crap! I don't Wan-OOMPH 🤬 wanna dieeeee! Ju-UMPH hoo! They're fast! What are these fel-eh- ehlows eating? Ho ho hoo... I'm outta breath.... Al-most home. There's. The . ooooOOOOOMPH!
SON OF A- WHO left the shovel laying out in the middle of the yard?!! Oh.. right. Me. Ha.ha.
I'm the cuss. I need to control my temper better...and my breathing. They can't know I was running for my life...ahhh Emma is baking bread! I hope it doesn't taste like expired flour like the last batch...she kinda sucks at baking..."
... I'm bored and seeking dopamine right now... lol
Who plays Among Us?! 😂
Well, that never happened. There was no gold plates no Marone it’s all just Joey’s bologna.
Joseph’s opponents used a conjurer? Wow…
Hey David! Can you make a video of the Book of Enoch and Richard Laurence book, i would be very grateful if you can explain that small controversy. Greetings from a mormon from Texas.
Very good video!!! 😊
Glad you enjoyed it!
"no one was allowed to see the plates"
Joseph Smith dislocated his thumb when he was attacked. I imagine that he used the plates as a weapon. Imagine getting hit over the head with 60 pounds of metal plates! He probably dislocated his thumb because of the poor ergonomics of the plates. Joseph Smith was 6’ 3” and weighed over 200 pounds. I suspect that he put up a good fight!🤗
What happened to the breast plate, the liahona & the sword of Laban, my understanding is that they were also buried with the plates. Did he not take those as well?
According to BH Roberts, the answer is that they were left behind.
@@brettmajeske3525 I thought they were shown to the 3 & the 8 witnesses.
@@hollydudley9200 May have been shown to the three but I am certain the 8 made no mention.
@@brettmajeske3525 so even if they were shown to the three, he must have had them at some point.
@@hollydudley9200 No, because it was the Angel Moroni, not Joseph Smith, who showed the Three the plates.
Another great video. But you still have a mustache??
What is the name of the movie the clips come from?
babe wake up new faith and beliefs
I really enjoy the research and time put into these videos, but as an aspiring voice actor, I can't help be disappointed by the use of AI generated voices (and art for that matter). It's not the worst thing you could do, but... still, doesn't make me feel great.
Do keep up the good work though. I love the work put out by this channel.
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Carrying over 200 lbs of gold plates across the countryside? Nope.
The fact that 16 millions believe this is fascinating, might as well believe in the Harry Potter stories.
Explain to me now how he carried 45 Kg and run with it 3 miles while fighting different guys. I dare any LDS member to replicate the story. get a 45kg and run with 3 miles while 3 are trying to catch you and don't you ever drop that 45Kg.
It was closer to 45 pounds, not kilograms. It was't gold, but "golden", likely an alloy of gold, silver and copper. I'd have a hard time doing that nowadays, but he was someone who was quite athletic, chopping wood for a living, tall of stature, and routinely winning contests of strength. Quite feasible. Not someone you'd want to tangle with.
@@WalterWagner001 Walter Walter Walter, each time I ask an LDS member this question the weight of the plates is getting less and less each time hehehe what is going on? Well the LDS church can't say Pure Golden Plates anymore becuase if the plates were pure Gold the weight is 45 KG and maybe more. So fine if you want to go with 20 KG, I give you 20 KG dumbell and trust me not even in your prime you will be able to run 3 miles not even half a mile with it. Believe me and this is not rocket science and it is very easy to try replicate. Get the STRONGEST, MOST BUFF young man in your circle, give him that 20 KG dumbbell and ask him to jog 3 miles while 3 others guys will try to snatch it from him. And let me add, if they ever drop that dumbbell on the ground ohhh boy GAME OVER. So if he can pull it off, you got yourself a convert. Because I can guarantee you not even Lebron James or Arnold will be able to pull it off. And by the way I do 20 KG tricep in the gym.
Dude. That's freaking awesome and scary.
My brain likens thats to going into the Witness Protection Service! Like an episode of Brooklyn 9-9!
Only probably without rampant ADHD and Autism.
😂 dude, I'd straight up freak out ! Like I would like to think I'd be all cool, and do a jig and be like "whoah."
But... I'm a neurotic mess already! I'd flip the eff out!
And then when my sis missionaries came over, I just imagine how I'd be like "How did I make myself blush when talking about my boyfriend? " while holding a filed high heel shoe to their carotid, and wearing pantyhoes on my head. 🥷👠
.....I may have just gone Full Jake Peralta on here. Lol
😂😂 ...
Ok Im gonna need to watch Brooklyn 9 9 . 😂😂😂😂😂
ah yes, the great story of the "magical" lenses that are never spoken about in any other religious text or have even been seen by anyone today