I carry a ten pound four person, three plus season tent. One, I live in Wyoming, two, it has room for my wife, myself, and our two seventy plus pound dogs. Around here sixty mile winds are common and even in the summer the temperature drops down to the thirties and forties almost every night especially at 8,000 feet of elevation or above.
Different viewpoint coming back to backpacking some time away. When I started to look at tents the first thing I noticed was the internal length. Tents now seem to be shorter than they used to be (oh the good old days of Vango Force 10s..) I guess to save weight. At 193cm any tent that is listed with an internal length near my height is discarded, even solo in a 2 person tent and even more with tents with sloping sides at the ends. And now, because of you and Dan I pay more attention to the width (in inches!) to make sure it can take 2 x 25 inch pads ;) Just back from a night in my relatively cheap NatureHike Mongar 2 with a light snow fall in southern Sweden. Warmer than expected with the mesh inner and super warm with my new BA sleep pad. Great channel Eric, keep it up.
How has that tent been holding up for you since you wrote this comment? I am in the market for one at the moment and that one has tickled my interest a little.
@@AkinaLOL Hi, it has been holding up very well although I did buy a longer (but narrower) tent this year. The Mongar has been loaned out, pitched on bedrock and generally used and it is fine. I do use the supplied footprint every time and I have had to replace some pegs for more robust ones.
I'm just getting into backpacking. I found a tent on Amazon called Forceatt 2 person tent , on sale, for $40. It's a double walled, windproof, waterproof 5 pound tent. So far so good. My daughter and I have used it twice now and have stayed very warm and dry. Hopefully it will continue to stay that way.
Sort-of newish viewer but I’ve been binging quite a bit and I love what you’re doing! So much good quality, helpful content. Pertaining to this video and your inclusion of Coleman as a backpacking tent option: 1: I don’t see many ppl mentioning Coleman but obviously their backpacking equipment has been sparse and largely existed when things were still bulky and heavy by today’s standards. The different and scattered variations of the Peak1 line. So I totally get why it’s not mentioned more. But as a lover of camping in general, it’s almost a genetic trait that I love Coleman gear, so I do appreciate your mention. It’s cheap $ typically and if you just need to make it happen THIS weekend, from scratch, Coleman is arguably the best option. With backpacking, not so much. Which brings me to 2: Now, I’m not a content creator at all, only a viewer and to that end, nothing is up to me. BUT, I think it would very cool and insightful if you did a “backpacking with Coleman” type of video. The pros and (more obvious) cons of it but also the fun that can be had with their gear and the quality for the price. Maybe something that includes and compares any of the now older Hooligan (Boy Scout) tents, the current Peak1 line of tents, the older line of Peak1 tents (ex: Aries 2p) and the current Sundome 2p tents. Maybe even a step further with the past and current backpacking gear options from Coleman; Peak1 cookpot set, pocket stove etc. Just my thoughts. Would be cool. Also, the Walmart info is incorrect. The sundome 2p as shown, is actually 6.6 lbs in bag and I’ve got it down to 5.5lbs without the carry bag and included doormat. 3.7 lbs after trading out the fiberglass poles for a set of “replacement” aluminum poles with open ends from any 7’x5’ tent with an X pole pattern. So basically a really durable tent for super cheap and even at 5.5lbs, it’s pack size without the bag is well worth shaving 2lbs off from something else in your pack. We may never meet but if we did, I’d shake your hand. You seem like a cool dude. Happy Trailing 🏕️
I have the Coleman sundome 2p Amazon $20 bucks. I would not use it for backpacking, I got it for my daughter to test the waters in tent camping. I now know that she likes camping it’s time to upgrade her tent. I also had to tape the seams and sprayed the outside with the scotchgard tent spry
I think the Durston X-mid is about the best value for an ultralight tent. It is just around 300 dollars for a two pound tent, and there are no bulky tent poles to cart around since it is a trekking pole tent. Absolutely love it!
Quick mote: The UL (green) Tungsten's fly is sil-polyester not nylon. Not sure about the regular "mid-grade" version's fly. Probably nylon. Funny how the dog lays down on the UL tent's fly while Eric is talking about possibly keeping dogs out off the UL version. I ❤️ dogs!
I absolutely love the Marmot Tungsten 2! it is a bit heavy and i usually pack my Big agnes fly creek for backpacking but take the tungsten in the canoe or on the 4wheeler. great tent.
That's great advice regarding a 2 person tent for one person and their gear. I used to have the MEC Camper 2 and loved the space but it was roughly 5lbs. I recently bought the MSR Freelite 1 and while I love the tent, I am having trouble adjusting to the lack of room for me and the gear I like close at hand.
I have the river country trekker 2 tent, and it was like $50. It weighs under 3 pounds, although it does set up with trekking poles. I imagine it isn't all that steady in a storm, but it's worked well enough for me for two summers now :) I do dream of owning a tent that has big side doors instead of weirdly small front ones with a pole in the middle, though
You can definitely get cheaper options of tents with trekking pole setups or tarp-style shelters, but they're not as solid on weather for sure. Dream big my friend!
I had a little chuckle with the 3-person tent discussion.. When you're a couple and you possibly want a little baby, you probably going to need that extra space.. Mmm, a 6person tent and probably a double (stacked) inflatable matras will do then!😜😄😜😄😜😄😜
When I got back into hiking, I borrowed a tent from a friend Then, aftet a lot of looking around, I bought an MSR hubba hubba (2P), which I love. I've looked at lighter weight replacements, but they're either much more expensive, much smaller or much colder due to more mesh.
That first Tungsten looks like it might be good for late season camping. With the nylon that goes halfway up the wall instead of all mesh and the heavier outer. It's obviously not a "proper" 4th season tent, but crazy Canadians would probably take it out in winter anyway 😉😂 I went out kast year in February in a NF Stormbreak with -21C temp overnight. I lived to tell the tale. Sharing a 2p with another warm body would be more comfortable probably.
Well said Eric. I like the way that you have done this and I may well crib some of your advice the next time I am teaching a session on tents over here in the UK I just need to convert lbs into kilos.
Hey Eric, show all your Aussie subscribers some love and review a Mont Moondance OR One Planet Goondie tent 🙏🏻 While not overly light, these things are built to last! Keep it up buddy 👏🏼
I grabbed a luxe hexpeak teepee tent I use or take everywhere. I started off with a bushcraft usa tarp...... good miserable times but I learned alot lol
It's definitely a trade off between weight, strength, space and cost. I tend to go for 3lbs and strong, then either suck it up on the space (bivi tent) or cost ($600+). I bought a Lanshan 2 for the summer, to have fun with, and the grim weather just meant it was unusable: not its fault!
Does the Tungsten UL2 still hold up compared to more "modern" tents like the Copper Spur HV UL2 or latest Hubba Hubba? Deciding between these 3 right now, with the Copper Spur and Tungsten being about the same price right now.
You are into your job for a long time, and your camera work, delivery and contents are actually good. Guess algorithm tramples you hard. As avid backpacker i've just bought myself a hilleberg unna, after getting into situations not entirely unsimilar to yours in sweden, using trash like big agnes and nemo, and never looked back Marmot problem is packed size. Limelight is huuuuge, tugsten is just big. Ferrino, vango, vaude, terra nova, helsport, fjalraven make way smaller 3.5-4 season tents.
Hi Greg, I recently started using the Durston X-Mid which uses trekking poles for its support structure and it's really great! Costs less than a lot of freestanding tents too.
@@BackpackingTV I guess you could mention it to the manufacturers that might reach out to you. Could also get your other TH-cam content makers to ask for it as well. I think you have a lot of pull. Just a thought.
Thanx for another great video. How did you like backpacking in Sweden.. I mean except for the storm. :) I have a 2p tent for me and my dog. Wiuld really need a 3p if I hade somine els with me as he is a bigger dog at 50kg. I am bot sure, have you done a video about hiking with dogs? Would be interesting. I have serious thought as my dog suddenly refuses dry food.. makes it a little more difficult if he doesn’t. Planning to walk the Kings trail (Kungsleden, about 400km) together with him in 1-2 years so trining for that now.
What about trekking pole tent are they any good and which brands are any good because that's what I'm looking at purchasing trekking pole tent because I've already got a regular tents that uses aluminum tent poles
I have only used a trekking pole tent from MSR and while I enjoyed it, I didn't love it. So I've mainly stuck with freestanding/semi freestanding tents since then. So I'm currently not the best person to recommend, but I do plan on trying out some in the future and trying to learn!
You'll have a bit of a tough time fitting all three of you in a 2P tent. My gf and I share a tent with out dog (part Aussie!) and need a 3P tent for all of us to be comfy. I'm honestly more worried about his nails on the air mattresses than the tent floor though. You might not want to go Ultralight with the dog included, definitely more delicate material involved.
I would add a word of caution re: many cheap so-called backpacking tents.. Walmart's store brand, Stansport etc as they are so prone to dangerously failing in mild wind, leak horrifically etc. So be sure and TRY the tent out at home before your trip, really spray it down with hose/sprinkler etc. and give a strong "tug" on every line and pole to make sure it won't collapse or tear in wind etc. Don't let a tent failure ruin your trip, let alone put you and anyone relying on the tent, in danger.
I get the logic behind recommending a cheap tent since you might not even like backpacking so it’s not that much of a loss if that is the case. That said I also think that having a big heavy tent and cheaper heavy gear can contribute to trail misery that might lead to not liking backpacking and quiting on it when you might not feel that way if your pack weren’t overloaded. The middle of the road 3.5lb tent is still relatively affordable and will be a better experience plus if you end up hating backpacking anyway the better tent holds a higher resale value. That Coleman tent is basically a throw away item. There are some other brands of tent made in China like paria or hyke and byke for example that have really light weight tents for incredibly low prices so they could be an option but the resale of these is also very low and you could end up with some quality control issues. When I go for something I dive all the way in so for me it makes more sense to just buy once instead of buying cheap stuff first only to have to replace it shortly after. Obviously not everyone is like me but I still think trying to get something that packs well and is at least light-ish is the way to go for tents.
Why sleep in a light weight tent on a mountain in Sweden. Go Hilleberg, Nordisk or likewise or go home 😐 I would never dare to do that. Swedish mountains are really unpredictable. I was in a rain storm in Abisko the other week, my Marmot Tungsten or X-mid would have blown away or got broken but Nordisk Oppland made it.
First trip? If low mosquito pressure, an 8x10' Blue tarp from Home Depot is $12. It's 21oz and won't leak. People literally cover their boats and motorcycles with them in hurricanes. That'll be your baseline. From then on, never buy a tent that weighs more than that Blue-tarp.
@@RealBoiJare Blue-tarp is pretty indestructible. Why carry more weight? For what purpose? Bugs? S2S has a 5oz bug-net. Routine setup? Maybe, but not often a stronger setup. One tree and that Blue-tarp will hold most anything, two-trees and it'll take a hurricane (if the trees will). This author has all the latest and greatest tents, but they weigh less than the Blue-tarp. Kinda miss the old-days though, when Blue-tarp made distance-hiking possible.
@@tomnoyb8301 if you could camp using a blue tarp back then, what’s stopping you from doing it now? You say you miss it, yet you also claim that’s it’s really good and indestructible. So what’s your point here? Why don’t you still use it if it’s so good? Are you just complaining about missing the old days for no reason? Literally no one is stopping you except for you lol
@@RealBoiJare - This was a long time ago, but if memory serves, they were discussing budget and first-time backpacking? Was merely pointing out that it doesn't require a lot of $$$ to go fairly lightweight. And if one starts right, they can set their sights properly. Once one has 24oz baseline tent/tarp, they can only get better from there, vs buying a 5lb monstrosity that's way worse than they started with. Been real patient with you and your big-mouth up till now. Go pester some other thread with inane and off-point comments.
@@tomnoyb8301 sure, but you do realize what video you made this comment on, right? If people wanted to build a damn blue tarp shelter that’s what they would’ve searched for. We’re literally looking for information on TENTS. You also say it doesn’t need to be expensive yet no one should buy a tent that weighs 24 Oz. Tell me one cheap tent that weighs just 24 oz, as you say is the maximum anyone should buy. That’s why i said your comment is just dumb
Just wondering if you ever hiked Humphreys peak? Me and my kid are going to hike it next summer. I hear you have to be weary of storms up there. And when a storm does occur you have to get below the tree line asap.
I have hike Humphries quite a few times! Beautiful spot. Summer time is dangerous when monsoon activity is up as several people have been struck by lightning and died up there. If you're hiking it during monsoon season try to go as early in the day as possible and if storm activity is building you should come down immediately. But you can do it! Enjoy!
Eric, thanks for this. You really made the decision making much easier for someone new to backpacking.
Thank you Eric Handsome for spoon feeding us.
I carry a ten pound four person, three plus season tent. One, I live in Wyoming, two, it has room for my wife, myself, and our two seventy plus pound dogs. Around here sixty mile winds are common and even in the summer the temperature drops down to the thirties and forties almost every night especially at 8,000 feet of elevation or above.
You're weight for ultralight is much higher than what I would expect. Makes me feel good about my Big Agnes.
Different viewpoint coming back to backpacking some time away. When I started to look at tents the first thing I noticed was the internal length. Tents now seem to be shorter than they used to be (oh the good old days of Vango Force 10s..) I guess to save weight. At 193cm any tent that is listed with an internal length near my height is discarded, even solo in a 2 person tent and even more with tents with sloping sides at the ends.
And now, because of you and Dan I pay more attention to the width (in inches!) to make sure it can take 2 x 25 inch pads ;)
Just back from a night in my relatively cheap NatureHike Mongar 2 with a light snow fall in southern Sweden. Warmer than expected with the mesh inner and super warm with my new BA sleep pad.
Great channel Eric, keep it up.
How has that tent been holding up for you since you wrote this comment? I am in the market for one at the moment and that one has tickled my interest a little.
@@AkinaLOL Hi, it has been holding up very well although I did buy a longer (but narrower) tent this year. The Mongar has been loaned out, pitched on bedrock and generally used and it is fine. I do use the supplied footprint every time and I have had to replace some pegs for more robust ones.
I'm just getting into backpacking. I found a tent on Amazon called Forceatt 2 person tent , on sale, for $40. It's a double walled, windproof, waterproof 5 pound tent. So far so good. My daughter and I have used it twice now and have stayed very warm and dry. Hopefully it will continue to stay that way.
Sort-of newish viewer but I’ve been binging quite a bit and I love what you’re doing! So much good quality, helpful content. Pertaining to this video and your inclusion of Coleman as a backpacking tent option:
1: I don’t see many ppl mentioning Coleman but obviously their backpacking equipment has been sparse and largely existed when things were still bulky and heavy by today’s standards. The different and scattered variations of the Peak1 line. So I totally get why it’s not mentioned more. But as a lover of camping in general, it’s almost a genetic trait that I love Coleman gear, so I do appreciate your mention. It’s cheap $ typically and if you just need to make it happen THIS weekend, from scratch, Coleman is arguably the best option. With backpacking, not so much. Which brings me to 2:
Now, I’m not a content creator at all, only a viewer and to that end, nothing is up to me. BUT, I think it would very cool and insightful if you did a “backpacking with Coleman” type of video. The pros and (more obvious) cons of it but also the fun that can be had with their gear and the quality for the price. Maybe something that includes and compares any of the now older Hooligan (Boy Scout) tents, the current Peak1 line of tents, the older line of Peak1 tents (ex: Aries 2p) and the current Sundome 2p tents. Maybe even a step further with the past and current backpacking gear options from Coleman; Peak1 cookpot set, pocket stove etc. Just my thoughts. Would be cool. Also, the Walmart info is incorrect. The sundome 2p as shown, is actually 6.6 lbs in bag and I’ve got it down to 5.5lbs without the carry bag and included doormat. 3.7 lbs after trading out the fiberglass poles for a set of “replacement” aluminum poles with open ends from any 7’x5’ tent with an X pole pattern. So basically a really durable tent for super cheap and even at 5.5lbs, it’s pack size without the bag is well worth shaving 2lbs off from something else in your pack. We may never meet but if we did, I’d shake your hand. You seem like a cool dude. Happy Trailing 🏕️
I have the Coleman sundome 2p Amazon $20 bucks. I would not use it for backpacking, I got it for my daughter to test the waters in tent camping. I now know that she likes camping it’s time to upgrade her tent. I also had to tape the seams and sprayed the outside with the scotchgard tent spry
I think the Durston X-mid is about the best value for an ultralight tent. It is just around 300 dollars for a two pound tent, and there are no bulky tent poles to cart around since it is a trekking pole tent. Absolutely love it!
Quick mote: The UL (green) Tungsten's fly is sil-polyester not nylon. Not sure about the regular "mid-grade" version's fly. Probably nylon.
Funny how the dog lays down on the UL tent's fly while Eric is talking about possibly keeping dogs out off the UL version. I ❤️ dogs!
I absolutely love the Marmot Tungsten 2! it is a bit heavy and i usually pack my Big agnes fly creek for backpacking but take the tungsten in the canoe or on the 4wheeler. great tent.
Excellent!!! Thank you. Great information about choosing the correct tent for various adventures
That's great advice regarding a 2 person tent for one person and their gear. I used to have the MEC Camper 2 and loved the space but it was roughly 5lbs. I recently bought the MSR Freelite 1 and while I love the tent, I am having trouble adjusting to the lack of room for me and the gear I like close at hand.
I have the river country trekker 2 tent, and it was like $50. It weighs under 3 pounds, although it does set up with trekking poles. I imagine it isn't all that steady in a storm, but it's worked well enough for me for two summers now :)
I do dream of owning a tent that has big side doors instead of weirdly small front ones with a pole in the middle, though
You can definitely get cheaper options of tents with trekking pole setups or tarp-style shelters, but they're not as solid on weather for sure. Dream big my friend!
I had a little chuckle with the 3-person tent discussion.. When you're a couple and you possibly want a little baby, you probably going to need that extra space..
Mmm, a 6person tent and probably a double (stacked) inflatable matras will do then!😜😄😜😄😜😄😜
I'm glad I chose the nearly 5lbs version of the Marmot 2P. My latest video on my channel shows it near the end. Got it on sale at REI for $156.00
When I got back into hiking, I borrowed a tent from a friend Then, aftet a lot of looking around, I bought an MSR hubba hubba (2P), which I love. I've looked at lighter weight replacements, but they're either much more expensive, much smaller or much colder due to more mesh.
Diedert, a year later do you still love your Hubba Hubba? Have you had problems with splinters from the poles?
Thank you for guiding us bro ❤️✌️
That first Tungsten looks like it might be good for late season camping. With the nylon that goes halfway up the wall instead of all mesh and the heavier outer. It's obviously not a "proper" 4th season tent, but crazy Canadians would probably take it out in winter anyway 😉😂 I went out kast year in February in a NF Stormbreak with -21C temp overnight. I lived to tell the tale. Sharing a 2p with another warm body would be more comfortable probably.
Well said Eric. I like the way that you have done this and I may well crib some of your advice the next time I am teaching a session on tents over here in the UK I just need to convert lbs into kilos.
Excellent! I'll just charge a minimal rate ;)
Hey Eric, show all your Aussie subscribers some love and review a Mont Moondance OR One Planet Goondie tent 🙏🏻
While not overly light, these things are built to last!
Keep it up buddy 👏🏼
Great video, thanks for sharing!
Decathlon do a great range of affordable gear, including reasonably lightweight 2P tents for about 3-4 lbs. The quality is really good for the price.
I grabbed a luxe hexpeak teepee tent I use or take everywhere. I started off with a bushcraft usa tarp...... good miserable times but I learned alot lol
That's how we all learn!
It's definitely a trade off between weight, strength, space and cost. I tend to go for 3lbs and strong, then either suck it up on the space (bivi tent) or cost ($600+). I bought a Lanshan 2 for the summer, to have fun with, and the grim weather just meant it was unusable: not its fault!
Does the Tungsten UL2 still hold up compared to more "modern" tents like the Copper Spur HV UL2 or latest Hubba Hubba? Deciding between these 3 right now, with the Copper Spur and Tungsten being about the same price right now.
You are into your job for a long time, and your camera work, delivery and contents are actually good. Guess algorithm tramples you hard.
As avid backpacker i've just bought myself a hilleberg unna, after getting into situations not entirely unsimilar to yours in sweden, using trash like big agnes and nemo, and never looked back
Marmot problem is packed size. Limelight is huuuuge, tugsten is just big. Ferrino, vango, vaude, terra nova, helsport, fjalraven make way smaller 3.5-4 season tents.
is a hubba 1 person or a cloud up 2 more wind resistant than your ultralight tent 2 lbs?
Thanks for this Eric. What's the 3P you use that you mentioned?
What about 3+ season tents, do those make any sense?
I’ve heard about a tent or maybe a bivvy that takes your hiking poles instead of tent poles? Any suggestions? Thankyou, great content, learning a lot.
Hi Greg, I recently started using the Durston X-Mid which uses trekking poles for its support structure and it's really great! Costs less than a lot of freestanding tents too.
Is there a tent with the more robust mid grade bathtub and the lightweight fly cover that would save a little weight?
I would like to see that combination, but I don't know of it!
@@BackpackingTV I guess you could mention it to the manufacturers that might reach out to you. Could also get your other TH-cam content makers to ask for it as well. I think you have a lot of pull. Just a thought.
Thanx for another great video. How did you like backpacking in Sweden.. I mean except for the storm. :)
I have a 2p tent for me and my dog. Wiuld really need a 3p if I hade somine els with me as he is a bigger dog at 50kg. I am bot sure, have you done a video about hiking with dogs? Would be interesting. I have serious thought as my dog suddenly refuses dry food.. makes it a little more difficult if he doesn’t. Planning to walk the Kings trail (Kungsleden, about 400km) together with him in 1-2 years so trining for that now.
"Let's get in tents!"....... well now I HAVE to like the video Eric!! Love the video as always! Thanks for always helping us out !
Is the Black Bean still open? I liked that place for lunch.
In Flagstaff? No, that ol' spot has transitioned to the afterlife, sadly.
@@BackpackingTV That sucks. I used to live there, worked at Route 66 Autobody painting cars back in the day.
What about trekking pole tent are they any good and which brands are any good because that's what I'm looking at purchasing trekking pole tent because I've already got a regular tents that uses aluminum tent poles
I have only used a trekking pole tent from MSR and while I enjoyed it, I didn't love it. So I've mainly stuck with freestanding/semi freestanding tents since then. So I'm currently not the best person to recommend, but I do plan on trying out some in the future and trying to learn!
Any recommendations for a 2P tent that would accommodate me, my wife and our 35 lb Aussie? Worried about his nails…
You'll have a bit of a tough time fitting all three of you in a 2P tent. My gf and I share a tent with out dog (part Aussie!) and need a 3P tent for all of us to be comfy. I'm honestly more worried about his nails on the air mattresses than the tent floor though. You might not want to go Ultralight with the dog included, definitely more delicate material involved.
@@BackpackingTV Yeah, it’s hard not to look for UL stuff though. Got any you could recommend?
I would add a word of caution re: many cheap so-called backpacking tents.. Walmart's store brand, Stansport etc as they are so prone to dangerously failing in mild wind, leak horrifically etc. So be sure and TRY the tent out at home before your trip, really spray it down with hose/sprinkler etc. and give a strong "tug" on every line and pole to make sure it won't collapse or tear in wind etc. Don't let a tent failure ruin your trip, let alone put you and anyone relying on the tent, in danger.
Excellent advice! Yeah, those cheap sportsmans ones are generally not suitable for truly wild weather!
What kind of dog is that ? Im looking for one like that 😊
Aussie/blue heeler/ border collie. He's a beaut!
Where in Sweden did you hike when your tent broke?
The top of Areskutan! (SP?)
I get the logic behind recommending a cheap tent since you might not even like backpacking so it’s not that much of a loss if that is the case. That said I also think that having a big heavy tent and cheaper heavy gear can contribute to trail misery that might lead to not liking backpacking and quiting on it when you might not feel that way if your pack weren’t overloaded. The middle of the road 3.5lb tent is still relatively affordable and will be a better experience plus if you end up hating backpacking anyway the better tent holds a higher resale value. That Coleman tent is basically a throw away item. There are some other brands of tent made in China like paria or hyke and byke for example that have really light weight tents for incredibly low prices so they could be an option but the resale of these is also very low and you could end up with some quality control issues. When I go for something I dive all the way in so for me it makes more sense to just buy once instead of buying cheap stuff first only to have to replace it shortly after. Obviously not everyone is like me but I still think trying to get something that packs well and is at least light-ish is the way to go for tents.
Thanks for the intense jokes :-). Have you considered hammocks for backpacking?
Why sleep in a light weight tent on a mountain in Sweden. Go Hilleberg, Nordisk or likewise or go home 😐
I would never dare to do that. Swedish mountains are really unpredictable.
I was in a rain storm in Abisko the other week, my Marmot Tungsten or X-mid would have blown away or got broken but Nordisk Oppland made it.
I learned the hard way!
@@BackpackingTV I'm really glad it all went well (not right then but well in the long run)
First trip? If low mosquito pressure, an 8x10' Blue tarp from Home Depot is $12. It's 21oz and won't leak. People literally cover their boats and motorcycles with them in hurricanes. That'll be your baseline. From then on, never buy a tent that weighs more than that Blue-tarp.
Ridiculous lol. “Never buy a tent a weighs more than a blue tarp”. Just dumb
@@RealBoiJare Blue-tarp is pretty indestructible. Why carry more weight? For what purpose? Bugs? S2S has a 5oz bug-net. Routine setup? Maybe, but not often a stronger setup. One tree and that Blue-tarp will hold most anything, two-trees and it'll take a hurricane (if the trees will). This author has all the latest and greatest tents, but they weigh less than the Blue-tarp. Kinda miss the old-days though, when Blue-tarp made distance-hiking possible.
@@tomnoyb8301 if you could camp using a blue tarp back then, what’s stopping you from doing it now? You say you miss it, yet you also claim that’s it’s really good and indestructible. So what’s your point here? Why don’t you still use it if it’s so good? Are you just complaining about missing the old days for no reason? Literally no one is stopping you except for you lol
@@RealBoiJare - This was a long time ago, but if memory serves, they were discussing budget and first-time backpacking? Was merely pointing out that it doesn't require a lot of $$$ to go fairly lightweight. And if one starts right, they can set their sights properly. Once one has 24oz baseline tent/tarp, they can only get better from there, vs buying a 5lb monstrosity that's way worse than they started with.
Been real patient with you and your big-mouth up till now. Go pester some other thread with inane and off-point comments.
@@tomnoyb8301 sure, but you do realize what video you made this comment on, right? If people wanted to build a damn blue tarp shelter that’s what they would’ve searched for. We’re literally looking for information on TENTS. You also say it doesn’t need to be expensive yet no one should buy a tent that weighs 24 Oz. Tell me one cheap tent that weighs just 24 oz, as you say is the maximum anyone should buy. That’s why i said your comment is just dumb
Y’all couldn’t buy the $60 tent for the video? Smh
Sorry for your loss.
lost me at the Coleman tent..
Most Coleman tents are not waterproof recommending one can cause somebody to get wet leading to hypothermia.
Just wondering if you ever hiked Humphreys peak?
Me and my kid are going to hike it next summer.
I hear you have to be weary of storms up there.
And when a storm does occur you have to get below the tree line asap.
I have hike Humphries quite a few times! Beautiful spot. Summer time is dangerous when monsoon activity is up as several people have been struck by lightning and died up there. If you're hiking it during monsoon season try to go as early in the day as possible and if storm activity is building you should come down immediately. But you can do it! Enjoy!
@BackpackingTV thank you for the advice.
I'll definitely plan it early and I'll be checking the weather.