for interested, in 13:37 was text saying "matt. thank you for everything you've done for this community. Please finally get some sleep lol. Don't be afraid to come back for a new FNAF game. I'll miss you buddy - john"
If you look even deeper, in the trash room where Chica’s chasing you. They are all over there too. (Just heads) then in the room with sticky’s you see a lot of heads as well. But what reallyyyy caught my eyes is this. Mom and dad are there (Williams and Mrs afton) Elizabeth is there as baby, Mike is there dressed as a fnaf employee, but here’s the big kicker. The head is MISSING, from the crying child’s body. Showing the mimic hey, one of the family memebers died to getting bit at the head in g. Freddy’s mouth. This whole theory lines up so perfect that honestly, I think he cracked the code. But it’s just a theory…. A GAME… nah doesn’t feel right anymore.
GT pretty hit or miss, tbh Fuhnaff is more consistent with quality since it feels like he only makes a theory when it is necessary rather than being required to do so.
For those who want to know what the jumbled code at 13:38 is. "Matt, thank you for everything you've done for this community. Please finally get some sleep lol. Don't be afraid to come a new FNAF game. I'll miss you buddy. - John" Such a sweet message to hide, and I hope Matpat finds it when he inevitably reacts to this video Happy days theorists!
This theory is insane in the best way possible - those sticky notes & the mimic & the shipment in the books have been bugging me. I also noticed the drawn to sound and wracked my brain trying to see where that tied in and couldn’t. This makes so much sense. Like, the fandom said ‘we don’t want afton, heck a new copycat killer would be better then afton coming back’ and steel wool said ‘hold my hat’ and gave us a literal ai trained to be a copycat killer. It just makes so much more story sense. I love this theory! Good fkin job 👍👍
I wouldn’t say it’s insane, surprisingly this has always been somewhat close to my initial interpretation of security breach, minus the presence of the mimic as an entity because I didn’t know it existed until the books revealed it. I had always assumed that Vanny had taken a Glamrock endo and began to train it by glitchtrap’s instructions to become a perfect vessel for him to take form from. The whole machine learning thing with the endo daycare seemed obvious to me even before the mimic was revealed, so the mimic also being its own entity that was used as a stepping stone/model for Glitchtrap makes sense. If you consider the idea that William and The mimic are separate entities, that means that whatever remained of William after Cassidy kept him alive to torture him, has been fully destroyed by fnaf ruin leaving only the mimic without the influence of Afton.
Also I just considered the idea that maybe the mimic that Vanny had been training wasn’t the mimic we see in security breach, rather it would be the HELPI bot found in the mask, I think the idea makes some sense seeing as if William is gone by ruin, that still leaves the question of why there is two mimic entities working together, one physical, one digital. Perhaps HELPI is all that remains of the Mimic AI that glitchtrap was preparing to make his vessel. That would explain both endings of Help Wanted 2 and ruin’s plot. Glitchtrap does turn Cassie’s dad into a staff bot holding the Vanny mask to create him a new servant, however the piece of Glitchtrap that was William was destroyed leaving only the AI he had been training/was hijacking behind. This AI then cooperates with the physical mimic to free him from his prison underground.
Unfortunately, high odds Afton does still Come Back :V ...considering how stupid Henry was, and the inevitable reveal that Fire Doesnt Work alongside it.
I personally love the idea of Glitchtrap being the "big bad" trying to get the Mimic more in line with Glitchtrap's vision of an ideal body (that being Afton's body). This would also line up with there being two "forces" or "halves" of an AI conflicting with one another. The Glitchtrap AI trying to control the Mimic's AI to rejoin and become whole, be the same inside and out.
This also kinda lines up with how the stitch line goes. Afton being the big bad trying to control this giant robot. Only the be beaten and a new enemy is left to be taken care of
What if Afton isn’t the big bad and it’s simply a bastardized recreation of him that’s roaming around. So the real Afton is attached to it, but he wants to stop it.
@@justice8718I suppose that could be, but ultimately with Glitchtrap gone both options would still leave us with the Mimic version of Afton. The version that, as you called out, isn’t _really_ authentically William, but is just operating on the flawed code it was programmed with. It’s a villain that is almost not even evil, but because it doesn’t have the capability to really process the morality of the instructions it’s following it commits horrible actions. It’s literally showcasing how machine learning can go horribly wrong if instructions are not specific enough that the AI has to make assumptions based on the gaps in knowledge provided.
@@justice8718 doesn't work with Hw1 having glitchtrap set up vanny who then tries to make the mimic under the circumstances of this theory. Glitchtrap and mimic are separated entities unless burntrap occurs.
This theory of the Mimic being there and active the whole time makes a particular scene that has bugged me for years make a little more sense: it's in Security Breach, when Gregory sees four Staff Bots around another dismembered Staff Bot. People constantly said it was Monty's doing, but I thought that was TOO weird, if that was the case he would've destroyed Staff Bots in other places too, why the single one in the basement which was also meant for the player to see with ZERO comments or explainantion? Maybe it's another parallel to the worker who got murdered in the book? It could be just another 1983 reference but how many do we need? And why would the Staff Bots represent that and not specific animatronics?
Plot Twist: FNAF AR is shutting down because the virus has completely corrupted the service, so Fazbear Entertainment decides to just shut it down, and never tells the public to why they’re shutting it down.
Dude this is actually really cool, they shut it down recently in real life, maybe they are trying to tell us the time like of when thus stuff happens. Fazbears fright happened canonically in 2023, last year, so AR must have shut down in 2024 within the fnaf universe, maybe.
This is clean. Very simple, not too convoluted and doesn't step on too many toes. Maybe a few details here and there might be wrong but for now this is what I'm accepting as the current mimic story.
Other theories all try and jam too much old fnaf lore into the new story for my tastes. This theory takes everything from the new gen of games and gives it a solid footing.
This video is the thing that blew my mind, and made a ton of things that had been missing fall into place properly. I am also accepting this as the true story of the Mimic! Didn't Scott mention to MattPat a really long time ago that he was close, but wasn't done with the story and that there was still something left to find? I think FuhhNaf just solved it. He found the missing piece. 0.0
2:24 I knew it! FNAF AR was connected to the timeline in Security Breach in a way! Cause, majority of the animatronics had been saying’ “Are you having fun yet?” Like Vanny does
>FNAF AR was connected to the timeline in Security Breach in a way! Always has been. It was meant to bridge the gap between HW1 and SB before Illumix Dropped The Ball. We DID get some important details off it at least, including that Michael's Alive.
i got back into fnaf when i started college and i remember watching ur first video. i’m about to graduate and it’s been so awesome to see this channel grow and all the amazing things you’ve discovered through the years. IM SO EXCITED TO WATCH THIS VIDEO AND EVERYTHING ELSE YOU HAVE GOIN ON!!!!
John is the perhaps only FNAF TH-camr that really dissects goes deep into the Literature of FNAF. The books are necessary to understanding the games. As Scott confirmed: The books are Canon to the FNAFU (FNAF Universe) just not continuous to the FNAF game timelines. John: terrific work - your theories are works of art.
I don’t think you NEED the books particularly, after all, he just proved all the clues were already there before the Mimic was even revealed in the books. It’s more like the books help you piece things together faster since its narrative is more linear.
You're actually partially wrong here. Well yes, the books are very important and necessary to understanding the story of the games, they are also in the continuity of the games. The only books Scott has said are not in-continuity would be the Charlie trilogy, which cannot fit in the timeline. However, he stated almost the exact opposite about Fazbear Frights and Tales from the Pizzaplex. He's stated that some of Frights is directly connected to the games, while some aren't. This perfectly fits with what's in the books; the Stitchline causes no problems in the timeline and, in fact, even solve some big problems in the timeline, all while filling in a few blanks from the past, this being between FFPS and Help Wanted, and between Help Wanted and Security Breach. The Into the Pit game is more proof of this, allowing us to explore the world that the book could not. The ITP game is 100% canon, too, there's no way *this* much effort would be put into a spin-off game, along with the 2023 date reveal in the ARG, it's obvious that this game is meant to solve the book canonicity argument, and is also the reason Scott never responded to the debate in the community, because he and Mega Cat were developing a game that would outright solve the debate in a much better way than a simple Reddit post or email. Tales from the Pizzaplex needs no other evidence for it's canonicity; the description of the books state it all... that it's "in the world of the newest games", this being backed up by an email from Scholastic, who, by the way, would absolutely know the answer. They knew about the ITP game before us, they would know this, too. Overall, the Stitchline and Tales from the Pizzaplex stories are absolutely in the games' continuity.
@@JinxeBlaq we kinda do though unfortunately? certainly not every story is needed but explain to me how we were supposed to figure out gregory's whole deal without GGY tbh what they're truly needed for is theorists being able to cite them for evidence lol, like yeah people had suggested greg was patient46 and whatever else before GGY but you gotta have some kinda evidence in a theory otherwise you're just yappin and nobody's gonna be swayed to believe it
@@Angermations >He's stated that some of Frights is directly connected to the games, while some aren't. And what does that *mean* exactly? Some of the stories wholesale? Some *aspects* of the story (eg the Mimic being sent to the Pizzaplex, more or less)? Something else? >the Stitchline causes no problems in the timeline It REALLY does, considering William Afton is intact in Security Breach, yet he supposedly exploded into a trash rabbit in the books. And yes, i'm 100% certain the toasted corpse in the Springlock Suit with Springtrap Bits, down in the place he was trapped in 6, is William Afton and not Mimic's Cosplay. He cannot be down there if he was pulled out of FFPS's location, pulled out of the suit, and exploded all over a warehouse. >The ITP game is 100% canon, too, there's no way this much effort would be put into a spin-off game So your source is "there's a lot of effort"...? That's dumb. The movies almost certainly have *FAR* more effort and money dumped in them, and yet they are *not* Games Timeline. Scott, as far as i'm aware, has not said it's Game Continuity either. >and is also the reason Scott never responded to the debate in the community, because he and Mega Cat were developing a game that would outright solve the debate in a much better way than a simple Reddit post or email. ...or Scott is just wanted to give a Trollish indirect answer (as usual) and let us figure it out ourselves. Which, we probably could, but some people (cough cough Matpat) do tend to spread some particularly... *dubious* theories which, while contradicting what we know, people kinda gobble up and Parrot without thinking (GT's "Timeline" (more Fanon, really), "Bite of 83 is a Springlock Failure" if you arent aware) >Tales from the Pizzaplex needs no other evidence for it's canonicity; the description of the books state it all... that it's "in the world of the newest games" *"In the world of the newest games"* = *"In the Five Nights at Freddy's Universe"* You need to learn the wording matters to an *absurd* degree here when you're discerning Games vs Books timelines. The Books, including the Novels, are *already* in the World of the games, they however are not in the continuity of the games as per Scott's words. Them being Canon/in the same Universe has never been the debate, the Timeline is. >who, by the way, would absolutely know the answer. They knew about the ITP game before us, they would know this, too. Steel Wool knew about Security Breach before us, you think they'd know a lot more about the lore too right? Wrong. They admitted for example they have 0 clue what the hell the Sister Location room *or* the message in it means, they were simply following Scott's instructions. The only people who know the Lore/what Is or Isnt Canon is only Scott Himself, he's not gonna show his cards and risk the answers leaking out until It's Time, i imagine. >Overall, the Stitchline and Tales from the Pizzaplex stories are absolutely in the games' continuity. I *DO* believe GGY is 100% Games Timeline, considering how much of a stark contrast it has to Tales and doesnt connect to *ANY* stories from Tales (Notably, it features Rabbits, no Tigers, has extremely direct Game Connections/references unlike the other stories, and matches the info we gathered from the games nearly 1:1, featuring the Games' protagonist unambiguously). The rest are dubious (or probably quite close, as far as the FNAF 4 one goes?) or non-canon.
"Matt, thank you for everything you've done for this community. Please finally get some sleep lol. Don't be afraid to come back for a new FNAF game. I'll miss you buddy. - John" I love how you hid that little message in the top right corner at 13:37. That's so sweet! Hopefully MatPat sees it at some point.
I mean, it totally is! Like it has to be! The notes, Gregory’s T-shirt, the Afton family table scene, the afton living room. I love John’s theory, but it completely erases everything we already know.
@@todoroqxi4085 >but it completely erases everything we already know. It 100% is not :V It's been known for a LONG time that Greggory almost certainly is not a Robot, GGY only hammered in that fact instead of proving he was. Greggory's Shirt is likely a coincidence similar to Jeremy, Jeremy, and Jeremy, who all lost their faces. The Table would, as mentioned, doesnt apply to just CC. The Living Room you could unironically say is because Michael Afton is working for FazEnt, he was likely working there before the Pizzaplex was ever built...
@@higueraft571 before we start, I’m not trying to start an argument, just a conversation. I think I gathered that you said Michael Afton working there, but didn’t he die like twenty years before? And the table screams crying child. It was the only afton missing? It definitely doesn’t make any sense for the afton table to have anything to do with the mimic. Even if you believe the crying child story is done it doesn’t make sense to replace him with the mimic in that situation. I don’t necessarily believe 100% that Gregory is a robot. Or really at all. But he definitely has a long history that we don’t understand. And it seems pretty tied into the crying child. I don’t completely believe they are one and the same. But I do believe there’s some connection somehow. It doesn’t make sense to erase the crying child when all different pieces of evidence are tied to the crying child. What are your thoughts on those specific pieces? Do you believe that there is no tie to the crying child? Like, for instance, the all for me and the birthday party? Do you agree? do you agree It’s just a mimic seeing and writing down what he sees or what are your thoughts?
0:15 if you actually play Secutity Breach, at the start, when Freddy is going down the stairs into the tunnel, a few stairs before Vanessa starts speaking the lines ‘hello, little boy, are you there’ etc, there is the mimic climbing the wall at the left. So I also think, the answer is yes, the Mimic was always the plan.
4:27 that makes sense because we never saw the scrap animatronics in the first place, because i was confused if steelwool was too lazy to remodel molten freddy or scrap baby
Once again you have shocked me with SO MUCH evidence that i have never seen or noticed in the game, you are telling me there was this much references to the mimic in SB??? which i havent seen anyone mention since it came out?? i might have missed it but you put it all together so well that its so relevant to me now. I can't wait for you to make a full timeline of FNAFSB to Ruin because so far you are making an incredible story out of these clues, it gives more protagonism to Vanny and how she managed to get control of the whole pizzaplex and make a vessel for glitchtrap, it gives us an understanding to the mimics personality in Ruin and makes him a much unique villain, its so gooD atleast i love it :D and would love to think of this as the story! everyone has their own interpretation, and yours has won me over.
I just wanted to say that I am so glad you finally picked up on the story in the sticky notes, glamrock endos and other details cause I've had that thought in the back of my mind for ages and saw no other theorists mentioning it, SO THANKYOU ❤ Another great theory John 👍
I'm not one to comment on theory videos, but ohhh boy, this one definitely deserves it. It all fits together so well, even if I disagree with small parts, it's still a MEGA AMAZING theory!
That makes sense honestly, I like that theory. Tho question, if this is really the story, Vanessa controlled by Glitchtrap and trying to transfer it to the mimic but then Gregory and Cassie's dad freeing her, and locking the mimic underground only for Cassie to accidentally freeing it, why are the games structured like that? You look at the games, you look at the story and... most things happened in between... Sure, FNAF has done that for years now,but I wish the story and games blended a little bit more.
I think this finally explains the mimic in a way that feels good. As usual, we struggle to make things work when new content comes out, and it takes some time to really compile info in a feasible way
This is genuinely your best theory yet. Solid evidence for all of your points? Check. Acknowledging things that could be incorrect/are just speculation with small notes? Check. Not a SINGLE mention of the word "parallel" or any past characters like Henry and Charlie (who, let's be honest, are both gone by now)? CHECK. Great job John, the time for this video was worth it :)
>who, let's be honest, are both gone by now Henry? Yes, absolutely certain considering you were meant to find his charred bones down in the Burntrap Arena. Charlie however...? Considering the Fire didnt work (like it didnt the first time), pretty doubtful honestly. Though not sure where she'd be exactly... Of course as far as past characters go, we *know* that Michael Afton is still Alive. Not only did he survive the fire, but he's now working at the new FazEnt according to AR (presumably in some form of Middle Management, since he's likely not a CEO/Higher Up and certainly not a Wageslave)... MCI is... *technically* maybe still alive? If you count the Blob/being a feral "thing" that's devolved after all the excessive shit said MCI would have went through. Although Cassidy *does,* like "The Puppet" says in UCN, seem Very Aware still, considering i dont think she was blended into the others as a soup and was far more Determined than them. Not sure *where* she is at the moment for certain, maybe Princess Quest? Baby is definitely an Unknown. Overall, i'd say anyone that *was* undead already likely survived, and is somewhere in Hurricane/we'll likely run into them later. Also will note >Not a SINGLE mention of the word "parallel" The Mimic Story *is* a Parallel, he just used the word without actually saying it :V
All these tiny, hidden details over multiple games and you manage to find them and make a working, plausible theory for some of the biggest mysteries in fnaf sb. Great job!
Honestly is so empowering to finally have real proof linking burntrap, the mimic and glitchtrap, I knew it was the "simplest" solution but people always seems to find ways to debunking it
Admittedly, i still dont really believe Burntrap is Mimic. Using Occam's Razor: The only evidence we have for Fire working is "Henry found a Schematic that said it MIGHT maybe work, possibly". The evidence we have for the Fire *not* working is "Michael Afton is still alive", "Springtrap survived the FNAF 3 fire", and "William survived the FNAF 6 fire for UCN to occur" ...not to mention the sheer hassle of explaining how/why Mimic magically went from a Springlock Endo to a Very Much Not Springlock Endo
The one thing that flies in the face of this theory is that Gregory tells Cassie at the end of Ruin that The Mimic has been down here a really long time, so either Security Breach and Ruin have a massive time jump (which can't be possible) or someone else trapped it down there a lot earlier.
i can't wait for more theories from you john i the way you format your videos to keep me hooked on your video and for someone with adhd it's hard for me to get hooked on something lol
Great theory. I also appreciate that you do give ID’s Fantasy her flowers here. You really tend to disregard a lot of her theories, which often involve tilting what “we know” to find really plausible stuff. And then it’s *kind of* the lynchpin of this theory solving the post it room.
I love it when you find all these tiny details to make your theory but I do feel the need to point out some problems with it Both the "its drawn to sound" and "New Generation endo" clues are great finds but neither point to the mimic Literally all of the animatronics in the series are drawn to sound (both sister location and the toys have it mentioned in the phone calls, heck even the old springlock suits are sound activated according to the calls and fnaf 3 gameplay cause thats literally how you keep Springtrap away from your office) and the new gen endo name could just be cause endo-01 and endo-02 designs exist meaning that the glamrock endos are just the newest generation of endos
That was an excellent video. I can tell how much thought and analysis you put into it. Good spot on the duffel bag note re: creepy bot, I'd completely missrd that. Still mulling over your final conclusion but I love where you went for this and you deserve a big kudos. Thanks for sharing!
John! Whether you realize it or not, you might become gen alphas MatPat for Fnaf theories! No doubt Tom will do good, but it’s still on Game Theory which was founded by MatPat.
Hey John, you said that it's been rough lately for you and I just wanted to let you know that I am going through a really hard year and you have been really helpful with your streams and videos and never failed to make me smile and forget about my problems for that while. So thank you thank you thank you ❤ And always remember when you're doubting yourself that you're never alone and there's always someone happy that you exist❤
I'm very glad Scott chose this studio to carry on his games. They are literally perfect at hiding even the tiniest clues for the biggest future theories about FNAF. It's absolutely mind-blowing to me how they managed to connect (almost?) everything to the books despite their game being rushed by the 'game awards' thing back in 2021.
This was a wonderful theory!! It makes a ton of sense that there would be subtle clues for the future in those ways, as there is a lot of forethought in storytelling. Your attention to detail is amazing!! Way to go John!! Keep it up!! :D
Hey John, i think another point of evidence is the facts that there's lots of Staff bot heads on the Sticky Note room. Which relates to the stuff the Mimic did in the books
Oh my gosh your theories are so goood!!! They keep me on the edge of my seat! I haven’t felt this way since the early days of game theory fnaf videos! You give completely new perspectives on things that have been ran thru and talked out multiple times. Keep up the great work and I can’t wait for your timeline video! It’s gonna be a doozy :D
Channels like RyeToast and FuhNaff are great. Consistent uploads on (mostly) FNAF theories and other FNAF content. They fill the hole in my animatronic toe-shaped soul Matt is about to leave when he retires
Amazing work as always!!! Also adding onto the mimic in the sticky note room- all the staff bots have their heads littered around the place, just like the Mimic was programmed rip them off!
What you said here lines up perfectly with how Steel Wool FNAF games mirror every detail of Scott Cawthon FNAF games. Very specifics details may be told at different time within timeline, maybe told under different names and looks, maybe told under different methods but general motivations behind everything are the same, both start, go through and end like the same story, all new characters fill the roles of all and multiple old characters. FNAF4>FNAF2>FNAF1>SL>FNAF3>FFPS AR>HW1>FNAFSB>HW2>RUIN>???
My theory is their cannon is: Michael Afton didn't discover how to create life, he created AI, AI that had programming, but could watch and learn. That is what the chip we grab off baby might be. Whoever is now in charge of Faz Bear contracted Scott to make the games about ghosts to throw off their secret AI tech.
Love this! Maybe the ruin prototype Freddy missing its head in Ruin could be a sign of the Mimic forcing the bare Freddy prototype to lose its head after knowing about the Bite of 83?
"they're both drawn to sound" brother "For ease of operation the animatronics are set to turn and walk towards sound, giving an easy and hands free approach, to making sure the animatronics stay where the children are-" PHONE GUY - FNAF 3 EVERY FNAF ANIMATRONIC HAS HAD THIS FEATURE SINCE THE ORIGINAL FREDDYS LOL
while that may be true, these animatronics are completely irrelevant in security breach ... the fact that both the mimic and these endoskeletons factually exist within the same building as the note saying "it is drawn to sound", strongly supports a connection
yes, but its not THEY are drawn to sound. and why even make a note of it when its always been a thing? he's not wrong that the use of "it" implies one specific animatronic or w/e else
What you said at 14:23 got me thinking, what if Vanessa also trained some of endos to be copies of Vanny? We know she was down in the endo teaching room and it could explain how Vanny came out of nowhere in the sewer as well as the ending where Vanessa sees a version of herself that dies in the Vanny suit. Maybe she even practiced teaching endos to be replicate specific people by teaching them to be Vanny before trying it out on the mimic to recreate William Afton. Would make sense practicing by making copies of herself rather than making other Glitchtrap copies. He would definitely want to be the only one
While I tentatively approve this theory, I think you're reading too much into the Mimic and Glamrock endo's being lured by sound commonality. This has been a thing since at least the third game with Springtrap. That was his whole gimmick. The human part of Springtrap wasn't able to fight the animatronic's desire to follow a child's voice whenever the player used an audio lure in an adjacent room. And I pretty sure it was also a feature of the Toy Animatronics from 2. This has been a long-standing thing with how the animatronics in this series function, it's definitely not unique to the glamrock generation. I do think that they were hinting at a mimic-bot being the new main antagonist for the series going forward, BUT... I think originally, it was explicitly going to mimic Afton/Vanny. Kill Vanny in Security Breach, then have the Mimic mimicking her behavior going forward (which would sorta explain that one ending where Vanny dies but Vanessa is still on the roof of the building) OR that Burntrap was eventually going to be de-bunnied and revealed to just be a robot mimicking the guy (rather than being the still-existing corpse-in-a-suit that we all know). The difference between this and your theory is that you state this was the in-game goal of Vanny, whereas I think this was originally Steel Wool's plan for Afton to keep coming back. Either way, people didn't respond to the very implication of that scenario very well, and so they made a few adjustments to what they already had and made the Mimic more of its own thing. Otherwise a surprisingly coherent storyline for these games.
I have one main grip. How did Vanessa or Glitchtrap know about the Mimic in the first place. Maybe via your Baby is the mimic theory with the chip. Idk.
Probably because Mimic might have been an Endo since the beginning of the timeline, fnaf 0 as I like to call it. If he was a robot or Endoskeleton from the early days of the franchise, then that would make sense on why Glitchtrap knows about him, I mean MXES was designed to keep him hidden
This was an awesome theory, it really does make a ton of sense when looking big picture at what security breach was supposed to be about/show. Maybe ruin was meant to make sure fans were definitely aware of the mimic specifically. Steel Wool might've realized it was potentially too ambiguous about the mimic and burntrap wasn't being properly understood as a fully Afton-ized mimic rather than the actual Afton corpse.
>Steel Wool might've realized it was potentially too ambiguous about the mimic and burntrap wasn't being properly understood as a fully Afton-ized mimic rather than the actual Afton corpse. Ehhhh no, i'm 100% certain Burntrap is *absolutely* Afton, and not the Mimic. The former is a Springlock Endo (with replacements included, one hand, eyes, and legs attached to the Original Pelvis namely) with a corpse impaled in it, wearing the Springtrap Suit. The latter is an entirely different endo with telescoping limbs, sharing a *similar* single hand (the replacement one, though depending on your opinion it could be the same but with minor differences, or a different model hand with similar enough design), and exactly 0 traces of Afton. This is only further reinforced when you consider that the FNAF 6 fire absolutely failed, because Henry is an idiot, and there's *far* more evidence (and far more solid) pointing to it failing than succeeding, and that IS where William would be after 6 :V
I'm so glad you were finally able to tie a lot of the white pages together and sticky notes together in relation to the mimic!! Awesome video yet again!!
Well well well... hello John! I'm honestly quite glad you uploaded! Sure MattPatt is gone, but at least we have amazing theorists such as yourself and others to look forward to for theories. Rest well, knowing you made another amazing upload! ^^
What I love about your theories is that you always bring fresh ideas to the table. That’s why I’m excited every time I see a new one. Don’t let haters keep you from exploring new ideas. Theorists like you keep fnaf so interesting inside the games
This is one of your better theories very good proof and makes sense, I always love how you get very good evidence in your theories Keep up the great work, and don’t let haters put you down.
i love how need more proof has become your catchphrase. ive been watching you since before you blew up and its nice ur finally taking off it makes me smile
Man, seeing you grow from a relatively small fnaf news channel to theory crafting and finding lots of success.. It’s really nice to see how far you’ve come! Hope the best for you in the future
Dude seriously how do you keep finding this I'm shocked that no one else has found this yet This game has so much more to offer then we previously believed
This has got to be the most solid theory I've heard in months, maybe even a year or two. Granted, a lot of your theories I'm fond of because they don't try to jam various parts of old FNAF lore into this new generation of games, and this theory really solidifies the fact that HW1, AR, Security Breach, Ruin, and HW2 make up the second generation of FNAF games. My mind was absolutely blown by this one, bravo!
Fuhnaff, im gonna be honest, im proud of you bro, i remember watching the freddy n' friends on tour reactions and the first vids and its crazy how far you've got, being able to meet MatPat himself and the others, nice job
Man, for a theory that took MONTHS in the making, the end result is oddly satisfying and I’m glad to see you taking your time with . Also, the “need more proof” phrase, whether intentional or otherwise reminds me of MatPat’s classic “It’s just a theory!”.
I love your theory’s because the way you explain them is really convincing, even if sometimes I don’t fully agree with them. When I hear “need more proof” I get hyped. This is probably my favourite video of yours, keep up the great work.
Great theory that explains almost everything, one of the best I've seen so far. One small issue with explanation of help wanted 2 endings, on 16:04 you said that Good ending is the only that is canon but we know as a fact that Helpitrap ending is pretty much canon, cuz without this one RUIN wouldn't have started, it shows how we free/put back together glitchtrap and then he traps Cassie 's dad in mask bot that we see in beginning of DLC. If we consider the Good ending the only canon one, then the Bad couldn't happen and RUIN ark wouldn't happen cuz then who gave us the VANNI mask at the beginning of RUIN? Either way that leaves to us two choices: 1) Good ending is not canon. or 2) Both of them canon but in Good one we see how mimic freed himself from glitchtrap control, that also explains why helpi and mimic were arguing when MXES was hijacked.
Love it when you find those tiny details everyone missed, its great how dedicated you are but I think sometimes you put alot more meaning into a detail then can be reasonably assumed Like with the "New Generation Endo" clue cause it could be a Mimic-02 thing OR more likely it just the new generation of endos (like how the Endo-02 is the newer generation of endos when compared to Endo-01) Same with the "its drawn to sound" clue cause like ALL the animatronics are drawn to sound (both Fnaf 1 and 2 phone guy said so and even Fnaf 3 game play shows this with Springtrap following sound even when he is looking at you in the office so we can assume its been programmed even into the oldest Springlock Suits) Again those clues are great finds and definilty hint to some kind of rouge robot being kept in the pizza plex but those clues aren't as Mimic exclusive as you present them as
Thank you so much for making my day. Last year on thanksgiving I made a theory about the mimic being connected to the post it room and I have been waiting for a known TH-camr to figure it out. Keep on making amazing theory’s like this one.
you know, this is what ive been missing. I love this theory so much, and it feels like a classic fnaf theory. Taking a simple concept from a book and then looking at all this evidence from the game and showing how it fits together cleanly even tho it's overlooked. Good theory. Thank you
for interested, in 13:37 was text saying "matt. thank you for everything you've done for this community. Please finally get some sleep lol. Don't be afraid to come back for a new FNAF game. I'll miss you buddy - john"
Aww❤
Does it really say that? That's so sweet ❤️
That’s awesome❤
That's so nice of him ❤
omg he predicts that matt's gonna react to this on gtlive and see that, wondering what it says and then finding out it's a message for him :o
i LOVE it when FuhNaff says "need more proof?" cos you best believe you're about to get some good shit
Couldn't have said it better
Or be even more confused, but intrigued.
@@brandonandstuff239it’s a good mix
Like how matpat says "that's Just a theory a game theory"
fr!! >w
Also in the sticky note room there are many heads pulled off bots indicative of the mimic
If you look even deeper, in the trash room where Chica’s chasing you. They are all over there too. (Just heads) then in the room with sticky’s you see a lot of heads as well. But what reallyyyy caught my eyes is this. Mom and dad are there (Williams and Mrs afton) Elizabeth is there as baby, Mike is there dressed as a fnaf employee, but here’s the big kicker. The head is MISSING, from the crying child’s body. Showing the mimic hey, one of the family memebers died to getting bit at the head in g. Freddy’s mouth. This whole theory lines up so perfect that honestly, I think he cracked the code. But it’s just a theory…. A GAME… nah doesn’t feel right anymore.
As much as I love Matt Patt's theories this one covers all the same points as the robo-greg theory bit makes so much more sense plot and lore wise
@@captainleonox3818 honestly this theory sells me on the robot Gregory theory too. I didn’t like it originally, but now I do.
I legit was just about to say this. Great minds think alike huh? lol
I do want to mention here that there are plenty of bots without there heads in sun/moons room.
The relationship between the mimic and Vanessa is weirdly wholesome. Like she’s going “let’s get some pizza:)” to a giant killer robot
I can picture the Mimic sitting down, holding his knees and tapping his feet as Vanessa smuggles a pizza and drink down to him.
Then he grabs a can of Fizzy Faz, tries chugging it and just powers down
Fuhnaff here to keep fnaf theories alive
GT is still gonna exist
And tom
GT pretty hit or miss, tbh Fuhnaff is more consistent with quality since it feels like he only makes a theory when it is necessary rather than being required to do so.
@@bboi1489Now that Matt has left GT I don’t really see it lasting that much more after all people subbed to GT for Matt and his theories
And all the other theorists
For those who want to know what the jumbled code at 13:38 is.
"Matt, thank you for everything you've done for this community.
Please finally get some sleep lol. Don't be afraid to come a new FNAF game. I'll miss you buddy.
- John"
Such a sweet message to hide, and I hope Matpat finds it when he inevitably reacts to this video
Happy days theorists!
Is that actually real?
@@Jfkdabombk Yes, it's really freakin cool and bittersweet
@@the_fallen_redditor6693 how’d you dissect that code?
It looks like some sort of alphabet switch code, I dunno how its called
@@soirema It's called a caeser cypher
Can we talk about how the main plot of the fnaf movie is "an afton giving instructions to bots using drawings"?
Oooooooh, nice catch!
That came from the original trilogy
@@SouMorse you might be right, I haven't read the novels yet
The main plot is a guy sleeping and an aunt wanting money, lol 😂
Maybe that's how Scott had planned the animatronics/spirit of them to communicate this whole time: through the drawings/visuals
This theory is insane in the best way possible - those sticky notes & the mimic & the shipment in the books have been bugging me. I also noticed the drawn to sound and wracked my brain trying to see where that tied in and couldn’t.
This makes so much sense. Like, the fandom said ‘we don’t want afton, heck a new copycat killer would be better then afton coming back’ and steel wool said ‘hold my hat’ and gave us a literal ai trained to be a copycat killer. It just makes so much more story sense.
I love this theory! Good fkin job 👍👍
I wouldn’t say it’s insane, surprisingly this has always been somewhat close to my initial interpretation of security breach, minus the presence of the mimic as an entity because I didn’t know it existed until the books revealed it.
I had always assumed that Vanny had taken a Glamrock endo and began to train it by glitchtrap’s instructions to become a perfect vessel for him to take form from. The whole machine learning thing with the endo daycare seemed obvious to me even before the mimic was revealed, so the mimic also being its own entity that was used as a stepping stone/model for Glitchtrap makes sense.
If you consider the idea that William and The mimic are separate entities, that means that whatever remained of William after Cassidy kept him alive to torture him, has been fully destroyed by fnaf ruin leaving only the mimic without the influence of Afton.
Also I just considered the idea that maybe the mimic that Vanny had been training wasn’t the mimic we see in security breach, rather it would be the HELPI bot found in the mask, I think the idea makes some sense seeing as if William is gone by ruin, that still leaves the question of why there is two mimic entities working together, one physical, one digital.
Perhaps HELPI is all that remains of the Mimic AI that glitchtrap was preparing to make his vessel.
That would explain both endings of Help Wanted 2 and ruin’s plot.
Glitchtrap does turn Cassie’s dad into a staff bot holding the Vanny mask to create him a new servant, however the piece of Glitchtrap that was William was destroyed leaving only the AI he had been training/was hijacking behind. This AI then cooperates with the physical mimic to free him from his prison underground.
Unfortunately, high odds Afton does still Come Back :V
...considering how stupid Henry was, and the inevitable reveal that Fire Doesnt Work alongside it.
thank you for taking the time and effort to plan, write, record and edit these theories for this community.
we don't deserve you, much love john
I personally love the idea of Glitchtrap being the "big bad" trying to get the Mimic more in line with Glitchtrap's vision of an ideal body (that being Afton's body). This would also line up with there being two "forces" or "halves" of an AI conflicting with one another. The Glitchtrap AI trying to control the Mimic's AI to rejoin and become whole, be the same inside and out.
yes but now that he’s gone the real big bad is mimic which I’m excited to see more of
This also kinda lines up with how the stitch line goes. Afton being the big bad trying to control this giant robot. Only the be beaten and a new enemy is left to be taken care of
What if Afton isn’t the big bad and it’s simply a bastardized recreation of him that’s roaming around. So the real Afton is attached to it, but he wants to stop it.
@@justice8718I suppose that could be, but ultimately with Glitchtrap gone both options would still leave us with the Mimic version of Afton. The version that, as you called out, isn’t _really_ authentically William, but is just operating on the flawed code it was programmed with. It’s a villain that is almost not even evil, but because it doesn’t have the capability to really process the morality of the instructions it’s following it commits horrible actions. It’s literally showcasing how machine learning can go horribly wrong if instructions are not specific enough that the AI has to make assumptions based on the gaps in knowledge provided.
@@justice8718 doesn't work with Hw1 having glitchtrap set up vanny who then tries to make the mimic under the circumstances of this theory. Glitchtrap and mimic are separated entities unless burntrap occurs.
This theory of the Mimic being there and active the whole time makes a particular scene that has bugged me for years make a little more sense: it's in Security Breach, when Gregory sees four Staff Bots around another dismembered Staff Bot. People constantly said it was Monty's doing, but I thought that was TOO weird, if that was the case he would've destroyed Staff Bots in other places too, why the single one in the basement which was also meant for the player to see with ZERO comments or explainantion? Maybe it's another parallel to the worker who got murdered in the book? It could be just another 1983 reference but how many do we need? And why would the Staff Bots represent that and not specific animatronics?
Plot Twist: FNAF AR is shutting down because the virus has completely corrupted the service, so Fazbear Entertainment decides to just shut it down, and never tells the public to why they’re shutting it down.
I mean, the real reason is that the company besides the irl game is poorly run, but that works well for an in-universe explanation.
Dude this is actually really cool, they shut it down recently in real life, maybe they are trying to tell us the time like of when thus stuff happens. Fazbears fright happened canonically in 2023, last year, so AR must have shut down in 2024 within the fnaf universe, maybe.
THE MIMIC!!
Hi I'm gregory
Gregory…
@@YojiXD I am...
@@Golden-berry what.. ARE you?
I m gregory
This is clean. Very simple, not too convoluted and doesn't step on too many toes. Maybe a few details here and there might be wrong but for now this is what I'm accepting as the current mimic story.
Other theories all try and jam too much old fnaf lore into the new story for my tastes. This theory takes everything from the new gen of games and gives it a solid footing.
This video is the thing that blew my mind, and made a ton of things that had been missing fall into place properly. I am also accepting this as the true story of the Mimic! Didn't Scott mention to MattPat a really long time ago that he was close, but wasn't done with the story and that there was still something left to find? I think FuhhNaf just solved it. He found the missing piece. 0.0
genuinely one of the most solid fnaf theories i've seen in a while :0
I love how Matpat's motto is "That's just a theory.". While John's is "Need more proof?"😂
WE LOVE to see another theory
YEAH WE DO!!!!!
Yes......
Yes......
I love that these games still have mysteries to figure out. The release of Security Breach may have been bumpy, but they sure knew the fan base
Nearly 5 minutes in and I am GOBSMACKED! Amazing job so far! Youre theories make so much sense!
twenty one pilots fan?
2:24 I knew it! FNAF AR was connected to the timeline in Security Breach in a way! Cause, majority of the animatronics had been saying’ “Are you having fun yet?” Like Vanny does
>FNAF AR was connected to the timeline in Security Breach in a way!
Always has been.
It was meant to bridge the gap between HW1 and SB before Illumix Dropped The Ball.
We DID get some important details off it at least, including that Michael's Alive.
It's absolutely CRAZY how you catched all of these details! Awesome video as always
4:30 I always thought that the animatronics in the blob were from fnaf ar, it just made sense to me. it's nice to hear a theory that actually agrees
i got back into fnaf when i started college and i remember watching ur first video. i’m about to graduate and it’s been so awesome to see this channel grow and all the amazing things you’ve discovered through the years. IM SO EXCITED TO WATCH THIS VIDEO AND EVERYTHING ELSE YOU HAVE GOIN ON!!!!
John is the perhaps only FNAF TH-camr that really dissects goes deep into the Literature of FNAF. The books are necessary to understanding the games. As Scott confirmed: The books are Canon to the FNAFU (FNAF Universe) just not continuous to the FNAF game timelines.
John: terrific work - your theories are works of art.
I don’t think you NEED the books particularly, after all, he just proved all the clues were already there before the Mimic was even revealed in the books.
It’s more like the books help you piece things together faster since its narrative is more linear.
You're actually partially wrong here.
Well yes, the books are very important and necessary to understanding the story of the games, they are also in the continuity of the games. The only books Scott has said are not in-continuity would be the Charlie trilogy, which cannot fit in the timeline. However, he stated almost the exact opposite about Fazbear Frights and Tales from the Pizzaplex. He's stated that some of Frights is directly connected to the games, while some aren't. This perfectly fits with what's in the books; the Stitchline causes no problems in the timeline and, in fact, even solve some big problems in the timeline, all while filling in a few blanks from the past, this being between FFPS and Help Wanted, and between Help Wanted and Security Breach. The Into the Pit game is more proof of this, allowing us to explore the world that the book could not. The ITP game is 100% canon, too, there's no way *this* much effort would be put into a spin-off game, along with the 2023 date reveal in the ARG, it's obvious that this game is meant to solve the book canonicity argument, and is also the reason Scott never responded to the debate in the community, because he and Mega Cat were developing a game that would outright solve the debate in a much better way than a simple Reddit post or email. Tales from the Pizzaplex needs no other evidence for it's canonicity; the description of the books state it all... that it's "in the world of the newest games", this being backed up by an email from Scholastic, who, by the way, would absolutely know the answer. They knew about the ITP game before us, they would know this, too.
Overall, the Stitchline and Tales from the Pizzaplex stories are absolutely in the games' continuity.
@@JinxeBlaq I'd agree with the books helping piece things together faster due to being more sequential.
@@JinxeBlaq we kinda do though unfortunately? certainly not every story is needed but explain to me how we were supposed to figure out gregory's whole deal without GGY
tbh what they're truly needed for is theorists being able to cite them for evidence lol, like yeah people had suggested greg was patient46 and whatever else before GGY but you gotta have some kinda evidence in a theory otherwise you're just yappin and nobody's gonna be swayed to believe it
@@Angermations >He's stated that some of Frights is directly connected to the games, while some aren't.
And what does that *mean* exactly? Some of the stories wholesale? Some *aspects* of the story (eg the Mimic being sent to the Pizzaplex, more or less)? Something else?
>the Stitchline causes no problems in the timeline
It REALLY does, considering William Afton is intact in Security Breach, yet he supposedly exploded into a trash rabbit in the books.
And yes, i'm 100% certain the toasted corpse in the Springlock Suit with Springtrap Bits, down in the place he was trapped in 6, is William Afton and not Mimic's Cosplay.
He cannot be down there if he was pulled out of FFPS's location, pulled out of the suit, and exploded all over a warehouse.
>The ITP game is 100% canon, too, there's no way this much effort would be put into a spin-off game
So your source is "there's a lot of effort"...?
That's dumb.
The movies almost certainly have *FAR* more effort and money dumped in them, and yet they are *not* Games Timeline. Scott, as far as i'm aware, has not said it's Game Continuity either.
>and is also the reason Scott never responded to the debate in the community, because he and Mega Cat were developing a game that would outright solve the debate in a much better way than a simple Reddit post or email.
...or Scott is just wanted to give a Trollish indirect answer (as usual) and let us figure it out ourselves.
Which, we probably could, but some people (cough cough Matpat) do tend to spread some particularly... *dubious* theories which, while contradicting what we know, people kinda gobble up and Parrot without thinking
(GT's "Timeline" (more Fanon, really), "Bite of 83 is a Springlock Failure" if you arent aware)
>Tales from the Pizzaplex needs no other evidence for it's canonicity; the description of the books state it all... that it's "in the world of the newest games"
*"In the world of the newest games"*
=
*"In the Five Nights at Freddy's Universe"*
You need to learn the wording matters to an *absurd* degree here when you're discerning Games vs Books timelines.
The Books, including the Novels, are *already* in the World of the games, they however are not in the continuity of the games as per Scott's words. Them being Canon/in the same Universe has never been the debate, the Timeline is.
>who, by the way, would absolutely know the answer. They knew about the ITP game before us, they would know this, too.
Steel Wool knew about Security Breach before us, you think they'd know a lot more about the lore too right?
Wrong. They admitted for example they have 0 clue what the hell the Sister Location room *or* the message in it means, they were simply following Scott's instructions. The only people who know the Lore/what Is or Isnt Canon is only Scott Himself, he's not gonna show his cards and risk the answers leaking out until It's Time, i imagine.
>Overall, the Stitchline and Tales from the Pizzaplex stories are absolutely in the games' continuity.
I *DO* believe GGY is 100% Games Timeline, considering how much of a stark contrast it has to Tales and doesnt connect to *ANY* stories from Tales (Notably, it features Rabbits, no Tigers, has extremely direct Game Connections/references unlike the other stories, and matches the info we gathered from the games nearly 1:1, featuring the Games' protagonist unambiguously). The rest are dubious (or probably quite close, as far as the FNAF 4 one goes?) or non-canon.
Fuhnaff is slowley taking matpat's role as the greatest FNaF theorist ever!
He already is. And he do the great job with theories. But even though we will all remember MatPat.
Your right @WilczycaCzarownica, we will always remember matpat, and good job Fuhnaff
Literally!!
"Matt, thank you for everything you've done for this community. Please finally get some sleep lol. Don't be afraid to come back for a new FNAF game. I'll miss you buddy. - John"
I love how you hid that little message in the top right corner at 13:37. That's so sweet! Hopefully MatPat sees it at some point.
Vote Fuhnaff as the successor to Matpat
This is a great theory! I'm just wrapping my head around that sticky note convo NOT being about Crying child and his birthday, though.
Just throwing this out there: what if the Mimic is/was supposed to be the Crying Child?
I mean, it totally is! Like it has to be! The notes, Gregory’s T-shirt, the Afton family table scene, the afton living room. I love John’s theory, but it completely erases everything we already know.
@@todoroqxi4085 >but it completely erases everything we already know.
It 100% is not :V
It's been known for a LONG time that Greggory almost certainly is not a Robot, GGY only hammered in that fact instead of proving he was.
Greggory's Shirt is likely a coincidence similar to Jeremy, Jeremy, and Jeremy, who all lost their faces.
The Table would, as mentioned, doesnt apply to just CC.
The Living Room you could unironically say is because Michael Afton is working for FazEnt, he was likely working there before the Pizzaplex was ever built...
@@higueraft571 none of that made sense to me. i’m sure you have a point somewhere, can you please just reword it for me. I’m not following.
@@higueraft571 before we start, I’m not trying to start an argument, just a conversation. I think I gathered that you said Michael Afton working there, but didn’t he die like twenty years before? And the table screams crying child. It was the only afton missing? It definitely doesn’t make any sense for the afton table to have anything to do with the mimic. Even if you believe the crying child story is done it doesn’t make sense to replace him with the mimic in that situation. I don’t necessarily believe 100% that Gregory is a robot. Or really at all. But he definitely has a long history that we don’t understand. And it seems pretty tied into the crying child. I don’t completely believe they are one and the same. But I do believe there’s some connection somehow. It doesn’t make sense to erase the crying child when all different pieces of evidence are tied to the crying child. What are your thoughts on those specific pieces? Do you believe that there is no tie to the crying child? Like, for instance, the all for me and the birthday party? Do you agree? do you agree It’s just a mimic seeing and writing down what he sees or what are your thoughts?
0:15 if you actually play Secutity Breach, at the start, when Freddy is going down the stairs into the tunnel, a few stairs before Vanessa starts speaking the lines ‘hello, little boy, are you there’ etc, there is the mimic climbing the wall at the left. So I also think, the answer is yes, the Mimic was always the plan.
That’s a normal endo
4:27 that makes sense because we never saw the scrap animatronics in the first place, because i was confused if steelwool was too lazy to remodel molten freddy or scrap baby
>if steelwool was too lazy to remodel molten freddy
Oh that's The Blob.
Once again you have shocked me with SO MUCH evidence that i have never seen or noticed in the game, you are telling me there was this much references to the mimic in SB??? which i havent seen anyone mention since it came out?? i might have missed it but you put it all together so well that its so relevant to me now.
I can't wait for you to make a full timeline of FNAFSB to Ruin because so far you are making an incredible story out of these clues, it gives more protagonism to Vanny and how she managed to get control of the whole pizzaplex and make a vessel for glitchtrap, it gives us an understanding to the mimics personality in Ruin and makes him a much unique villain, its so gooD atleast i love it :D and would love to think of this as the story! everyone has their own interpretation, and yours has won me over.
I just wanted to say that I am so glad you finally picked up on the story in the sticky notes, glamrock endos and other details cause I've had that thought in the back of my mind for ages and saw no other theorists mentioning it, SO THANKYOU ❤
Another great theory John 👍
13:37 Such a sweet message!
how did u decode it?
@@DigitalDiamond1 You have to replace each letter with the seventh letter before that, so for example Z with S.
I'm not one to comment on theory videos, but ohhh boy, this one definitely deserves it. It all fits together so well, even if I disagree with small parts, it's still a MEGA AMAZING theory!
That makes sense honestly, I like that theory.
Tho question, if this is really the story, Vanessa controlled by Glitchtrap and trying to transfer it to the mimic but then Gregory and Cassie's dad freeing her, and locking the mimic underground only for Cassie to accidentally freeing it, why are the games structured like that?
You look at the games, you look at the story and... most things happened in between... Sure, FNAF has done that for years now,but I wish the story and games blended a little bit more.
I think this finally explains the mimic in a way that feels good. As usual, we struggle to make things work when new content comes out, and it takes some time to really compile info in a feasible way
This is genuinely your best theory yet.
Solid evidence for all of your points? Check.
Acknowledging things that could be incorrect/are just speculation with small notes? Check.
Not a SINGLE mention of the word "parallel" or any past characters like Henry and Charlie (who, let's be honest, are both gone by now)? CHECK.
Great job John, the time for this video was worth it :)
>who, let's be honest, are both gone by now
Henry? Yes, absolutely certain considering you were meant to find his charred bones down in the Burntrap Arena.
Charlie however...? Considering the Fire didnt work (like it didnt the first time), pretty doubtful honestly. Though not sure where she'd be exactly...
Of course as far as past characters go, we *know* that Michael Afton is still Alive. Not only did he survive the fire, but he's now working at the new FazEnt according to AR (presumably in some form of Middle Management, since he's likely not a CEO/Higher Up and certainly not a Wageslave)...
MCI is... *technically* maybe still alive? If you count the Blob/being a feral "thing" that's devolved after all the excessive shit said MCI would have went through.
Although Cassidy *does,* like "The Puppet" says in UCN, seem Very Aware still, considering i dont think she was blended into the others as a soup and was far more Determined than them. Not sure *where* she is at the moment for certain, maybe Princess Quest?
Baby is definitely an Unknown.
Overall, i'd say anyone that *was* undead already likely survived, and is somewhere in Hurricane/we'll likely run into them later.
Also will note
>Not a SINGLE mention of the word "parallel"
The Mimic Story *is* a Parallel, he just used the word without actually saying it :V
All these tiny, hidden details over multiple games and you manage to find them and make a working, plausible theory for some of the biggest mysteries in fnaf sb. Great job!
Honestly is so empowering to finally have real proof linking burntrap, the mimic and glitchtrap, I knew it was the "simplest" solution but people always seems to find ways to debunking it
As Ockham's Razor so wisely says, "the simplest solution is usually the best one." :)
Admittedly, i still dont really believe Burntrap is Mimic.
Using Occam's Razor:
The only evidence we have for Fire working is "Henry found a Schematic that said it MIGHT maybe work, possibly".
The evidence we have for the Fire *not* working is "Michael Afton is still alive", "Springtrap survived the FNAF 3 fire", and "William survived the FNAF 6 fire for UCN to occur"
...not to mention the sheer hassle of explaining how/why Mimic magically went from a Springlock Endo to a Very Much Not Springlock Endo
The one thing that flies in the face of this theory is that Gregory tells Cassie at the end of Ruin that The Mimic has been down here a really long time, so either Security Breach and Ruin have a massive time jump (which can't be possible) or someone else trapped it down there a lot earlier.
i can't wait for more theories from you john i the way you format your videos to keep me hooked on your video and for someone with adhd it's hard for me to get hooked on something lol
Great theory.
I also appreciate that you do give ID’s Fantasy her flowers here. You really tend to disregard a lot of her theories, which often involve tilting what “we know” to find really plausible stuff. And then it’s *kind of* the lynchpin of this theory solving the post it room.
I love it when you find all these tiny details to make your theory but I do feel the need to point out some problems with it
Both the "its drawn to sound" and "New Generation endo" clues are great finds but neither point to the mimic
Literally all of the animatronics in the series are drawn to sound (both sister location and the toys have it mentioned in the phone calls, heck even the old springlock suits are sound activated according to the calls and fnaf 3 gameplay cause thats literally how you keep Springtrap away from your office) and the new gen endo name could just be cause endo-01 and endo-02 designs exist meaning that the glamrock endos are just the newest generation of endos
That was an excellent video. I can tell how much thought and analysis you put into it. Good spot on the duffel bag note re: creepy bot, I'd completely missrd that. Still mulling over your final conclusion but I love where you went for this and you deserve a big kudos. Thanks for sharing!
John! Whether you realize it or not, you might become gen alphas MatPat for Fnaf theories! No doubt Tom will do good, but it’s still on Game Theory which was founded by MatPat.
John FuhNaff being the actual god of theories once again. Awesome work as always.
Hey John, you said that it's been rough lately for you and I just wanted to let you know that I am going through a really hard year and you have been really helpful with your streams and videos and never failed to make me smile and forget about my problems for that while. So thank you thank you thank you ❤ And always remember when you're doubting yourself that you're never alone and there's always someone happy that you exist❤
I'm very glad Scott chose this studio to carry on his games. They are literally perfect at hiding even the tiniest clues for the biggest future theories about FNAF. It's absolutely mind-blowing to me how they managed to connect (almost?) everything to the books despite their game being rushed by the 'game awards' thing back in 2021.
I really love this theory! I've been wondering about that random stage in rockstar row since first seeing it on Security Breach's launch day!
This was a wonderful theory!! It makes a ton of sense that there would be subtle clues for the future in those ways, as there is a lot of forethought in storytelling. Your attention to detail is amazing!! Way to go John!! Keep it up!! :D
Hey John, i think another point of evidence is the facts that there's lots of Staff bot heads on the Sticky Note room. Which relates to the stuff the Mimic did in the books
Oh my gosh your theories are so goood!!! They keep me on the edge of my seat! I haven’t felt this way since the early days of game theory fnaf videos! You give completely new perspectives on things that have been ran thru and talked out multiple times. Keep up the great work and I can’t wait for your timeline video! It’s gonna be a doozy :D
Channels like RyeToast and FuhNaff are great. Consistent uploads on (mostly) FNAF theories and other FNAF content. They fill the hole in my animatronic toe-shaped soul Matt is about to leave when he retires
Amazing work as always!!!
Also adding onto the mimic in the sticky note room- all the staff bots have their heads littered around the place, just like the Mimic was programmed rip them off!
What you said here lines up perfectly with how Steel Wool FNAF games mirror every detail of Scott Cawthon FNAF games. Very specifics details may be told at different time within timeline, maybe told under different names and looks, maybe told under different methods but general motivations behind everything are the same, both start, go through and end like the same story, all new characters fill the roles of all and multiple old characters.
FNAF4>FNAF2>FNAF1>SL>FNAF3>FFPS
AR>HW1>FNAFSB>HW2>RUIN>???
This is definitely your best theory yet. It makes too much sense. I'm completely sold on this theory. Awesome job!
My theory is their cannon is:
Michael Afton didn't discover how to create life, he created AI, AI that had programming, but could watch and learn. That is what the chip we grab off baby might be. Whoever is now in charge of Faz Bear contracted Scott to make the games about ghosts to throw off their secret AI tech.
JOHN, YOU JUST KEEP GETTING BETTER AND BETTER!!! I love your theories, they're addicting to watch.
Love this! Maybe the ruin prototype Freddy missing its head in Ruin could be a sign of the Mimic forcing the bare Freddy prototype to lose its head after knowing about the Bite of 83?
Ur theories are my favorite- I have been a subscriber for a while now and ur videos never disappoint!! Hope to see more content soon!
Okay 1:40 transition, we see you
Thanks for pointing this out! It's crazy to see how good John has gotten at editing
11:30 also y'know the fact that there's animatronic heads everywhere next to the notes, which is the Mimic's whole thing
"they're both drawn to sound" brother
"For ease of operation the animatronics are set to turn and walk towards sound, giving an easy and hands free approach, to making sure the animatronics stay where the children are-"
PHONE GUY - FNAF 3
EVERY FNAF ANIMATRONIC HAS HAD THIS FEATURE SINCE THE ORIGINAL FREDDYS LOL
while that may be true, these animatronics are completely irrelevant in security breach ... the fact that both the mimic and these endoskeletons factually exist within the same building as the note saying "it is drawn to sound", strongly supports a connection
yes, but its not THEY are drawn to sound. and why even make a note of it when its always been a thing? he's not wrong that the use of "it" implies one specific animatronic or w/e else
What you said at 14:23 got me thinking, what if Vanessa also trained some of endos to be copies of Vanny? We know she was down in the endo teaching room and it could explain how Vanny came out of nowhere in the sewer as well as the ending where Vanessa sees a version of herself that dies in the Vanny suit.
Maybe she even practiced teaching endos to be replicate specific people by teaching them to be Vanny before trying it out on the mimic to recreate William Afton. Would make sense practicing by making copies of herself rather than making other Glitchtrap copies. He would definitely want to be the only one
While I tentatively approve this theory, I think you're reading too much into the Mimic and Glamrock endo's being lured by sound commonality. This has been a thing since at least the third game with Springtrap. That was his whole gimmick. The human part of Springtrap wasn't able to fight the animatronic's desire to follow a child's voice whenever the player used an audio lure in an adjacent room. And I pretty sure it was also a feature of the Toy Animatronics from 2. This has been a long-standing thing with how the animatronics in this series function, it's definitely not unique to the glamrock generation.
I do think that they were hinting at a mimic-bot being the new main antagonist for the series going forward, BUT... I think originally, it was explicitly going to mimic Afton/Vanny. Kill Vanny in Security Breach, then have the Mimic mimicking her behavior going forward (which would sorta explain that one ending where Vanny dies but Vanessa is still on the roof of the building) OR that Burntrap was eventually going to be de-bunnied and revealed to just be a robot mimicking the guy (rather than being the still-existing corpse-in-a-suit that we all know). The difference between this and your theory is that you state this was the in-game goal of Vanny, whereas I think this was originally Steel Wool's plan for Afton to keep coming back. Either way, people didn't respond to the very implication of that scenario very well, and so they made a few adjustments to what they already had and made the Mimic more of its own thing.
Otherwise a surprisingly coherent storyline for these games.
This is one theory that I feel actually makes a whole lot of sense, thanks John!
I have one main grip. How did Vanessa or Glitchtrap know about the Mimic in the first place.
Maybe via your Baby is the mimic theory with the chip. Idk.
Probably because Mimic might have been an Endo since the beginning of the timeline, fnaf 0 as I like to call it. If he was a robot or Endoskeleton from the early days of the franchise, then that would make sense on why Glitchtrap knows about him, I mean MXES was designed to keep him hidden
This was an awesome theory, it really does make a ton of sense when looking big picture at what security breach was supposed to be about/show. Maybe ruin was meant to make sure fans were definitely aware of the mimic specifically. Steel Wool might've realized it was potentially too ambiguous about the mimic and burntrap wasn't being properly understood as a fully Afton-ized mimic rather than the actual Afton corpse.
>Steel Wool might've realized it was potentially too ambiguous about the mimic and burntrap wasn't being properly understood as a fully Afton-ized mimic rather than the actual Afton corpse.
Ehhhh no, i'm 100% certain Burntrap is *absolutely* Afton, and not the Mimic.
The former is a Springlock Endo (with replacements included, one hand, eyes, and legs attached to the Original Pelvis namely) with a corpse impaled in it, wearing the Springtrap Suit.
The latter is an entirely different endo with telescoping limbs, sharing a *similar* single hand (the replacement one, though depending on your opinion it could be the same but with minor differences, or a different model hand with similar enough design), and exactly 0 traces of Afton.
This is only further reinforced when you consider that the FNAF 6 fire absolutely failed, because Henry is an idiot, and there's *far* more evidence (and far more solid) pointing to it failing than succeeding, and that IS where William would be after 6 :V
He did it. The crazy lad proved mimic existed since SB. I'm flabbergasted, this is so good.
I'm so glad you were finally able to tie a lot of the white pages together and sticky notes together in relation to the mimic!! Awesome video yet again!!
Only real ones came from MatPat
Finally! I've been waiting for this video everyday since Jan 1
Awesome theory! Kudos on the editing, it keeps getting better and better
Well well well... hello John! I'm honestly quite glad you uploaded! Sure MattPatt is gone, but at least we have amazing theorists such as yourself and others to look forward to for theories. Rest well, knowing you made another amazing upload! ^^
What I love about your theories is that you always bring fresh ideas to the table. That’s why I’m excited every time I see a new one. Don’t let haters keep you from exploring new ideas. Theorists like you keep fnaf so interesting inside the games
This is one of your better theories very good proof and makes sense, I always love how you get very good evidence in your theories Keep up the great work, and don’t let haters put you down.
i love how need more proof has become your catchphrase. ive been watching you since before you blew up and its nice ur finally taking off it makes me smile
“It is drawn to sound” reminds me of FNAF1. I like when they add little things similar to the older games
So good to see real research instead of baseless conjecture. Keep doing the good work bro!!
Man, seeing you grow from a relatively small fnaf news channel to theory crafting and finding lots of success..
It’s really nice to see how far you’ve come! Hope the best for you in the future
Dude seriously how do you keep finding this
I'm shocked that no one else has found this yet
This game has so much more to offer then we previously believed
This is actually significantly easier to follow than some of your previous theories, good job :)
SOMEBODY FINALLY TALKED ABOUT THE DOORS! I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR SOOO LONG!
SOOOOO PROUD OF YOU! You are so good, thorough, provocative and stimulating.
This has got to be the most solid theory I've heard in months, maybe even a year or two. Granted, a lot of your theories I'm fond of because they don't try to jam various parts of old FNAF lore into this new generation of games, and this theory really solidifies the fact that HW1, AR, Security Breach, Ruin, and HW2 make up the second generation of FNAF games. My mind was absolutely blown by this one, bravo!
Fuhnaff, im gonna be honest, im proud of you bro, i remember watching the freddy n' friends on tour reactions and the first vids and its crazy how far you've got, being able to meet MatPat himself and the others, nice job
Man, for a theory that took MONTHS in the making, the end result is oddly satisfying and I’m glad to see you taking your time with . Also, the “need more proof” phrase, whether intentional or otherwise reminds me of MatPat’s classic “It’s just a theory!”.
This makes so much sense it’s scary. Amazing work.
The quality of your video is fantastic! Your editing skills have improved so much! Good work, Jon!
I love your theory’s because the way you explain them is really convincing, even if sometimes I don’t fully agree with them. When I hear “need more proof” I get hyped.
This is probably my favourite video of yours, keep up the great work.
This is one of the most clear cut, cut and dry theories I’ve ever watched. This is amazing
Well done John! always solving FNAF :)
Great theory that explains almost everything, one of the best I've seen so far. One small issue with explanation of help wanted 2 endings, on 16:04 you said that Good ending is the only that is canon but we know as a fact that Helpitrap ending is pretty much canon, cuz without this one RUIN wouldn't have started, it shows how we free/put back together glitchtrap and then he traps Cassie 's dad in mask bot that we see in beginning of DLC. If we consider the Good ending the only canon one, then the Bad couldn't happen and RUIN ark wouldn't happen cuz then who gave us the VANNI mask at the beginning of RUIN? Either way that leaves to us two choices: 1) Good ending is not canon. or 2) Both of them canon but in Good one we see how mimic freed himself from glitchtrap control, that also explains why helpi and mimic were arguing when MXES was hijacked.
>cuz then who gave us the VANNI mask at the beginning of RUIN?
Cassie's Dad is NOT vital to this at all. He's simply Watching.
The editing is getting so much better. Keep it up!
This is one of my favourite theories ever surrounding FNAF. I can’t wait for your next one !
Love it when you find those tiny details everyone missed, its great how dedicated you are but I think sometimes you put alot more meaning into a detail then can be reasonably assumed
Like with the "New Generation Endo" clue cause it could be a Mimic-02 thing OR more likely it just the new generation of endos (like how the Endo-02 is the newer generation of endos when compared to Endo-01)
Same with the "its drawn to sound" clue cause like ALL the animatronics are drawn to sound (both Fnaf 1 and 2 phone guy said so and even Fnaf 3 game play shows this with Springtrap following sound even when he is looking at you in the office so we can assume its been programmed even into the oldest Springlock Suits)
Again those clues are great finds and definilty hint to some kind of rouge robot being kept in the pizza plex but those clues aren't as Mimic exclusive as you present them as
Thank you so much for making my day. Last year on thanksgiving I made a theory about the mimic being connected to the post it room and I have been waiting for a known TH-camr to figure it out. Keep on making amazing theory’s like this one.
I like this theory, i really enjoy your videos, John. This was a good one and does help make sense of a lot of those little bits of clues
Oh yeah, it's all coming together.
This is the best one yet, John! I swear I'm mind-blown everytime.
you know, this is what ive been missing.
I love this theory so much, and it feels like a classic fnaf theory.
Taking a simple concept from a book and then looking at all this evidence from the game and showing how it fits together cleanly even tho it's overlooked.
Good theory. Thank you