The Bismarck's Last Stand
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- For the over 2,000 sailors lost on the Bismarck.
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I had a conversation with a lady 40 plus years ago she said her claim to fame was that she had a part to play in sinking the Bismarck. She said that she manned the cinema next to the coastal command in NI . A message came from the base asking for all pilots to report back immediately. She put the message on the screen and they all left. One of them found the ship and the rest is history. If she had waited a few minutes they may have missed the ship. It was a very interesting conversation
Big fan here... But as a ex US Navy Petty Officer, I cringe when you pronounce "forecastle", it should be pronounced "folk-sill", at least that's what we were taught. And there are no ropes or floors on ships, it's lines and decks. In boot camp we were told that "ropes are for cowboys" and if we called a ship a boat, or said ropes when we should have said "lines", we would be sent to "Happy Hour". I once asked: "What's Happy Hour?" I was told: "It lasts and hour and you will be very happy when it's over."
But keep up the good work, I watch every video.
Appreciate the feedback, will note that for future videos! Thank you for your service as well! Have a great week and thank you for the support :)
I am from Uruguay and we have different naval names in Spanish too. We say "cabo" for cuerda (line) , "nave" for barco (ship), "cubierta" (deck) for piso, and so on.
Saludos (regards)
@@ivanlussich8146 Very interesting.
Boltrope. Manrope.
In the late 50's, I read CS Lewis's book "The Last Nine Days of the Bismark". That was followed by the movie "Sink the Bismark" and I have been hooked on all things Bismark ever since. Excellent and very informative video! Thank you!
Very interesting, I’ll have to check that out! Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching and have a great week :)
CS Forester.
@@greenflagracing7067 Thank you! Too many CS's and over 60 years!
loooooved this one mate thanks for your commitment to my viewing pleasure
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Rodney and Nelson were among my favorites warships ever built. 16 inch battleships, three triple turrets forward, able to fire a full salvo without having to turn broadside, but old by WWII and slow for the time.
They truly were beautiful ships. Appreciate you watching and have a great week :)
They could only fire six of their nine guns unless they turned broadside to their target as the line of fire of X turret was blocked by B turret.
My name is Rodney
It should be remembered these seamen were looking forward to sinking merchant shipping, these would have been unarmed. War is a terrible beast, would they have felt pity for the merchant seamen dying under their guns? Perhaps they would have shrugged and said, this is war!
+1
They were ultimately hoping to enable the nazi regime to globally murder and slaughter hundreds of millions of human beings, for their egotistical, fanatical fascism and riches..
I agree war is a beast but you act like British did nothing either so the blockade against Germany and Italy that’s starves citizens wasn’t horrible? Did the British feel sympathetic towards the children and elder they tried to starve? My point is no one is innocent in war. Men go to battle to defend their country and families. Can’t put them down for doing their duties. May all the veterans of ww2 rest easy.
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@@josephd9190 ...WE KNOW DOGGONE WELL WHO STARTED WW2- AND MAYBE THE AXIS SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THE CONSEQUENCES BEFORE THEY STARTED WW2?!
@@josephd9190 I think the purpose of the submarine blockade was to starve the British people, young, old , women and children as well as men. It is an awful tactic and long used Julius Caesar used this to defeat Vercingetorix. Is it better than what happened to Coventry, Dresden or Stalingrad, no it's all awful. If you took my comment as whoopie, we killed a few Jerries, you are wrong, it is the awful consequence of setting war machines on people.
Nah man why is this so underrated?
Great vid fr
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Bismarck had a profound, fundamental, and uncorrectable (shy of back to the drawing board) marine architectural flaw that contributed to her doom. The marine architects at Blom & Voss designed her with convergent outer propeller shafts that permitted either the port or starboard propeller to drive the ship ahead without requiring any direction compensating rudder input which adds hydrodynamic drag. So perfectly was this yaw-free thrust balanced, that when she underwent her sea trials in the Baltic, any efforts to steer the ship with differential thrust had no result. Not even full thrust opposite rotation of the outboard propellers would produce any useful turning moment. And yes, this raised considerable concern among those engineers and officers pragmatic enough to see this was a severe deficiency, particularly in a warship. There was of course a backup steering mechanism and procedure. In case of damage to the steam-powered steering motors, the crew of an entire turret could be reassigned to collectively turn large emergency manual control wheels and slowly change the ship's direction. The problem was this didn't address the contingency of the rudders or steering train being jammed by battle damage. Without functioning rudders, Bismarck was without any "Plan B" for steering. While nearly all multi-shaft ships can be at least crudely steered with differential thrust even if the rudders are unusable, all that Bismarck, with her too-perfect convergent shaft design, could do was to meander helplessly without functioning rudders.
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My dad had an album of Johnny Horton songs. "Out to Sink the Bismarck " was one of the songs.
I learned the song and understood something about naval battles as a child.
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SPLENDID PRESENTATION.I RANK YOU WITHIN THE TOP 5 OF ANY U TUBE CHANNEL.
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@@HiddenHistoryYT Thank you for burning the midnight oil in your research.
No shells penetrated the armour belt? Hmm debatable.
Yes. A gallant fight against impossible odds.
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...can you be more specific?
@@daleburrell6273 Odds were stacked the moment she set sail. Had to sail, as would have been hounded while docked, as all Capital ships were. All were destroyed having barely set sail. Germany was blockaded from outset. Only Graf Spree raided in the Atlantic. All the rest never made it past the French coastline. Still fabulously effective though hiding in Fiords, or German ports-the mere presence of had effect on Convoys heading for Russia. And back. It was a doomed mission, and only a few days later Hitler invaded Russia-Bismarck sinking was an omen for sure.
@@wildcolonialman ...the Bismark was unlucky- and the Hood was unlucky!!!
When you piss off the Brits- you can expect trouble-(!)
@@daleburrell6273 There is that Dale.
HMS Rodney was a Bad Ass Battleship lol
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I wish I’d watched this first thing in the morning and not before I went to bed here.
Truly a living nightmare.
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Rodney was on her way from, I think, Liverpool to Boston, USA for refit, when called into the battle.
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On the 18th May 1941 Rodney had left the Clyde (Glasgow) with the M.V Britannic and along with 4 destroyers was to escort her to Halifax, Nova Scotia, and from there she was to sail onwards to Boston for major overhaul work. The breakout of the Bismarck and Prinz Eugen into the Atlantic meant that she was detached from her escort duty and diverted to intercept the German ships.
It's me again. You knocked it out of the park. You have a talent for writing concise and compelling narratives.
Giving this narrative room to breathe has made you shine.
I've heard this story many times from many sources but this one shines above the rest.
Nuff said.
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14 and 16 inch guns made Bismarck a floating wreck
Salute to the sailors of Hood and Bismarck
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Thanks for posting this really interesting video..out of interest at time stamp 21.06 looks like the HMS Norfolk can you clarify please....BTW My late father was on HMS Norfolk during WW2 and took part in this battle. He spoke about this a few times when we used to have a beer or three at his local pub...Out of all the campaigns the Artic convoys left the most impression with the grim conditions they had to go through, it affected his health in latter years. If you get over the pond and are in North Scotland take a ferry over to Orkneys and then to Hoy to see the Scapa Flow Royal Navy museum where the home fleet was based, I got to see the scale of the place that my dad used to talk about...well worth a trip...keep up the good work.
Thank you to him for his service, he is a hero! IIRC, it is indeed the Norfolk shown there. I still need to make it over to England and see all the cool historical stuff there! The Norfolk did her duty! Appreciate you watching and have a fantastic week :)
@@HiddenHistoryYT Thanks for the reply and appreciate the video/commentary and footage, helps to build a picture of what many people went through in days gone by...Now a thought provoking story that I found out from a cousin 3 years ago...my father and a relation were born a few months apart in 1921 and went through school together and joined the Royal Navy at the same time.They both trained at HMS Impregnable and my father was then posted to HMS Norfolk and his relation was posted to the infamous HMS Glorious.His relation was killed at the tender age of 19 on the 8th June 1940 when the Germans sunk HMS Glorious ! how small decisions can have major outcomes...
Part 1: th-cam.com/video/lpfr7UsMaIo/w-d-xo.html
War is terrible on all sides. Respect to the men of the Bismark, as to those of HMS Hood.
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The Destroyer attacks in the night was a smart move. Imagine the adrenaline on the RN vessels and the despair on Bismarck. Ppl forget one of the British DDs were sunk the next day by air attack. A footnote that never gets mentioned
HMS Mashona right?
@@HiddenHistoryYT ya and Canadian destroyers from a convoy finally sunk the drifting wreck in the evening
Sabaton has a great song about the Bismark, it is on YT. Great story about the downfall of this beautiful ship. I did not realize there were initially so many survivors.
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Excellent presentation.
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Even tho bismarck served a evil regime, can't help to feel bad about the horrible ways some of the crew met their ends
Most interesting, thank you.
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In a documentary I watched years ago, a British sailor stated on record that they were given specific orders by command to take a “small sampling” of survivors.
He cried as he told the story because of all the others left in the sea that they knew could’ve been saved but weren’t.
Revenge is a dish best served up cold.
As a matter of fact, I watched a documentary tonight about HMS Belfast at the Battle of the North Cape and heard those exact same words from the Admiralty about picking up survivors from Scharnhorst. Given that Scharnhorst's mission was to intercept and destroy the eastbound convoy, I imagine that if she had, a great number of merchant seamen would have met the same fate.
A nasty business all around.
@@lawrencemyers3623 That’s exactly right. Naval warfare is a nasty business....all or nothing practically.
Then the comment was wrong. It was allegedly attributed to Bruce Fraser after North Cape. This, however, doesn't alter the fact that North Cape was fought in darkness, in the Arctic, in a storm, in December. The surprising thing is that, in these conditions, anyone was picked up.
After Bismarck was sunk, HMS Dorsetshire & HMS Maori began picking up survivors until the Captain of Dorsetshire received a U boat report.
There was allegedly a submarine scare at the time that the pick up was being made so all the UK ships scarpered. This is the official version (and especially for transmission to the Germans via other channels in war time. ) . Perhaps the story from the sailor is closer to the truth.
@@F_Tim1961 The sailor who confused the Bismarck action with the Battle of North Cape? I wonder who this sailor was?
Actually, the facts concerning the U-Boat may be checked. For around 24hrs. before her sinking, Bismarck had been transmitting on a frequency normally used by U Boats. The British believed that these were probably homing signals. Indeed, Lutjens did signal for a U-boat to be sent to collect Bismarck's war diary. The war diaries of U73 and U556 actually confirm their presence in the area, as follows :-
On May 26, 1941, U-73 was ordered to help the wounded German battleship Bismarck which was under attack from British destroyers. On the night of May 26 U-73 spotted star shells that illuminated Bismarck and also saw the Bismarck firing her guns. But U-73 was unable to attack the destroyers due to Force 7 to 9 winds. U-73 reported the Bismarck's position to Group West but the positions proved inaccurate. U-73 then returned to port in France.
Also on 26 May, during his homebound voyage, and ten days before his 26th birthday, Wohlfahrt, commander of U556, responded to a call for all U-boats in the Bay of Biscay to support the German battleship Bismarck's increasingly deteriorating position. The aircraft carrier HMS Ark Royal, and battlecruiser Renown had a lucky escape during the night, unaware they had come within firing range of Wohlfarth's U-556, which had, however, already fired off all its torpedoes. This was particularly galling for Wohlfahrt, as U-556 and Bismarck had exercised together in the Baltic, and as Wohlfarth had jokingly created a Certificate of Sponsorship, promising to protect the Bismarck. U-556 continued to shadow the British forces, reporting their position and guiding other U-boats to the area. Wohlfarth witnessed the night battles between Bismarck and British destroyers.
So, there were two boats in the area. U73 even later picked up Bismarck survivors. What would you suggest Captain Martin should have done when passed a U-boat alert by his officer of the watch? Simply stayed in the area, trusting to the humanitarian instincts of the boat's commander, or acted as any competent commander of the time would have done, by putting the safety of his ship and her crew of 700 or so first?
thanks it was a great watch
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Imagine being on the receiving end of a battleship's gun in your skivvies. Poor flak gunners no matter what insignia they wore.
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Apparently, exposed anti aircraft gunners on Yamato were slaughtered by aircraft firing machine guns and strafing the ship.
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Excellent description of events, far more fleshed out than other videos on the same subject.
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I follow naval history, this video is one of best I've watched thank you
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It’s a last stand worthy of the ages! I would even say that it’s an epic worthy of homer! For the humanity aspect of it though could you just imagine being a sailor on the Bismarck during the final battle! Not knowing whether you were going to live or die in an inferno of fire, red hot metal, and incoming shells would be an absolutely petrifying experience! RIP to all those brave young men who fought until quite literally the very last shell could be fired!
I wonder what old Homer really would have made of a last stand in which one side had been reduced to what was, in effect, a practise target in around 20 minutes.
Something rather shorter than the 'Iliad' perhaps?
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@@dovetonsturdee7033 That side still fought to bitter end. Even though the ship was almost completely disabled in the first hour of the battle the sailors still fought until literally the last shell could be fired. That’s why I compared this to an epic worthy of homer and the ages.
@@stevenmoore4612 Perhaps you might explain what other alternatives they might have had? By the way, they were certainly not short of shells. But, after the first thirty minutes or so, they were short of guns from which to fire them.
@@dovetonsturdee7033 A bit longer than the hoods performance but a less spectacular ending .
God Bless the brave sailors and officers of the Bismark. And all the navies of wartime.
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God bless the brave sailors of the Royal Navy.
@@timsytanker As I said all the navies of wartime.
It was it's Only Stand...an almost miss on it's rudder..
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Of all the ships in WW2 - Bismarck was the best looking. But I don't believe in killing so ..........................
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Interesting documentary.
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Bravoure / respect totale à ses hommes qui ont combattu jusqu’à la fin 🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪💪💪💪
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Merci d'avoir regardé et bon week-end :)
Never has there been a single ship been attacked by so many. She will always be my favorite battle ship
I think Yamato also took one hell of a pounding. But by that point of the war it was not a 'fair fight'.
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at Surigao Strait, IJN BB Yamashiro vs 6 BBs, 4 CAs 9 CLs, 28 DDs and 39 PT boats
@@michaelhart7569When were the Nazis ever fair? No tears for anyone on that ship
Only 4 RN ships required to sink her after she'd been stopped from running away.
for reasons that must appear obvious, use of a capital ship as a commerce raider was a profoundly stupid idea.
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Forecastle is pronounced 'Folksill"?
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Bad Day. RIP
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Strange, no mention of Bismarck's jammed rudder. ?
Check out part 1 which discusses that! th-cam.com/video/lpfr7UsMaIo/w-d-xo.html
The end of the, very short, era of the Dreadnought style battleship being the wartime king of the waves.
The Bismark's demise was caused by carrier based aircraft.
Within a few months the Japanese carrier fleet demonstrated the new era in the Pacific, then Midway sealed the argument.
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Bismark was a truly beautiful ship, along with Tirpitz. The Germans really did build some amazing ships during as well as slightly before WWII. Scharnhorst and Gneusenau were works of art too.
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beautiful as in built to starve the British into surrender by hitting merchant convoys but not to go up against other warships?
@@alexpanton6319No, beautiful as in their exterior appearance.
Very interesting.
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The wreck of the Bismarck has been found and surveyed.
I recall the damage to the ship was minimal, contributing to the idea that it was scuttled, not blown to bits. Does anyone really know?
"The damage to the ship was minimal" apart from ALL her guns being knocked out of action, most of her superstructure missing and multiple damage sites along her hull caused by torpedoes.
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And the fact that the last 30 feet or so of the stern is missing and has never been found.
Brutal but necessary
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"Four Castle" - This was the point I left - Truly Dreadful effort
Lol for 1 mispronunciation? It’s been pronounced correctly in every future video from this just FYI
The most iconic warship in history, yet it only has one single, old, black and white movie with flaws. Talk about disrespectful.
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Hollywood are currently writing a script telling how the USN mercilessly hunted down and sank the Bismarck. The script will then have to be passed by the corporate globalist "woke" executives now in charge of Hollywood, for all the usual "additions" to help "modern audiences" understand how the "real events" unfolded.
Chiwetel Ejiofor as Winston Churchill
Peter Dinklage as V/Adm Lancelot Holland
Emma Watson as Admiral Günther Lütjens
Danai Gurira as "Wokundi"... the leader of the "Revolutionary African Black Power Navy" that had a small but crucial part in assisting the USN in locating Bismarck
The joint African nations drag queen ballroom dancing team champions piloting the "Fairy" Swordfish torpedo bombers.
And of course a subcontextual "dream / reality" plotline which culminates in African colonial sailors being violently raped by evil white British RN sailors.
Of course all the above is purely for the sake of historical accuracy.
I wonder how it would have ended if Bismarck hadn’t lost her rudder
Bismarck makes it to France where it is constantly bombed by the RAF, probably joining in the "Channel Dash" in Feb 1942 running back to Germany to spend the rest of the war hiding from the RN and RAF.
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Die Bismarck bleibt für immer in unserem Kopf für die Ewigkeit.
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the bismark sunk cause it got water inside they could of used that stuff on the infomercial where the guy floats on the screen door lol
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The Cat! You forgot about the Cat!
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Remember Les, other fairy stories are also available.
Nice footage but really you should’ve told a better story - utilizing a map when you were explaining the positions, starting with a basic outline of what the show is about - you just start with a sequence of events and we are trying to understand the entire picture and strategy. But you’re doing it and I’m not so my congratulations, just helpful criticism. Good luck
This is the second part of my upload from yesterday which gives you the necessary context! Appreciate the feedback though! Thanks for watching and have a great weekend :)
Yes, some maps would have been useful, but GREAT photos!
@@ronaldalanperry4875 have been adding more maps for locations into videos since this!
Ahoy marinari
The man with a tash was army did not listen to the navy. If the hole fleet had gone out a week before the invasion with tankers and ships set up to rearm and have food. Plus the subs nightmare.
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@@HiddenHistoryYT Put it this way if the numpty with the tash had done what I said the war may have ended with a different result.
@@carltontweedle5724 What "invasion" are you talking about. If you mean Bismarck's "commerce raiding" mission then rest assured the nazi "OKM" (naval High Command) had arranged for a fleet of TEN oilers and supply ships across the North and Central Atlantic to be in place to refuel Bismarck and Prinz Eugen.
After the sinking of Bismarck and a breakthrough by the British ULTRA codebreakers the Royal Navy also hunted down and sank ALL of the supply ships as well !!!
Forecastle is pronounced "Foeksul"
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Please, you land lubbers should educate yourselves, it's pronounced foc'sle NOT forecastle!!
You sea drifters should spell it how it’s pronounced 😂 But I’ve corrected it in all future videos, appreciate the feedback and you watching! Have a great week :)
Great documentary on this almost epic story of the British admiralty to get the Bismarck. I say almost. Because they almost used everything they had to regain their pride after losing the Hood. I'm talking logistics. All of that. For one ship. A ship that would have been out of comission for a long time stuck in a safe harbor. Case closed. Only Winston couldn't let it go... Wartime politics at hand here... I feel sorry for all the souls aboard any of the ships involved. Let's just not make it happen again....
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Bismarck's guns had about a 20 mile range, verses about 14 or 15 miles for British ships.
Thus, Bismarck could sink British ships before coming within range of British guns.
I submit THAT is why Winston had to get the Bismarck.
Not "Wartime Politics".
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The 16 inch guns on HMS Rodney had a range of 23 miles
And the 14 inch guns on HMS KGV had a range of almost 22 miles.
Such a shame of loss of life.
Nazis deserved it
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The Bismarck was made by a Swordfish Torpedo plane which disabled the rudder, forcing the Bismarck to steam n a large circle.
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"Foc'sle"
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It's pronounced fokesal
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Rodney was getting revenge on Bismarck for sinking her sister ship Hood.
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Rodney's sister ship was the battleship Nelson. Hood was a WW1 battlecruiser, although refitted, much less armoured than a battleship, allowing them to be faster.
@@peterrebelwithoutamenopaus6962 All named after Napoleonic war admirals hence thinking was her sister ship. Forgot about Nelson. Dad would have been annoyed with me as he was RN in WWII and used to have all the models.😃
@@stevemccann4166 Thanks for answering Steve. Wonderful ships, all of them. I'm sure you know far more about naval ships than I do. Simple mistake.
@@peterrebelwithoutamenopaus6962 Hood wasn't "much less armoured" than a battleship... just slightly.
According to Ballard it was scuttled. No need for KGV..
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If KGV and Rodney hadn't been there, do you think Bismark would have been scuttled? Duh!
IF any scuttling actually took place then all that was scuttled was a 51000 ton mountain of sinking, flaming scrap metal. All guns silenced, her superstructure devastated, her main armour belt broken and penetrated in several places, her command staff physically obliterated, internally aflame from end to end, her stern and port gunwales already underwater, a thousand of her crew dead, and further hundreds of her crew already in the water behind her.... All that any scuttling did was to sink her a few minutes earlier than was already happening.
In the world of boxing the crew's scuttling efforts are what is known as "throwing in the towel", submission of a boxer AFTER he has been punched senseless by a more skillful & powerful opponent, and only a deluded child would say, "the victor didn't win because his opponent killed himself before he lost.", when the truth is the loser had his arse ripped off by the victor and handed back to him on a plate.
Imagine the ignominy of being forced to commit suicide by your opponent?
They use prisoners
The last thing we want to hear is a bloody American accent trying to explain a battle on the European front!
lol small mind
@@HiddenHistoryYT Typical American corny, recycled boring crap!
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The last thing you can try to explain is Americans winning battles on the European Front
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Never feel sorry for men who die in war. They knew the risks. Accepted the responsibility. I never asked for sympathy... only respect.
These unfortunate German sailors were whipped into a patriotic frenzy by lies.
I'll feel sorry for them if I want to.
Who are you to tell anyone to do otherwise?
We speak of "Innocent civilians", as though soldiers and sailors who, more often than not, are forced and/or deceived into fighting by civilians, were guilty and deserving of all manner of horrible death and disfigurement.
@@ronaldalanperry4875 The idiotic and unnecessary war in Ukraine has me sympathizing with both the poor Russian boys and the poor Ukrainian boys. Both nations had a birth rate below replacement level. Both countries were struggling. Neither can afford to throw away their seed corn... their precious young men. The West will rebuild Ukraine and populate it with non-Ukrainians, but Russia may never recover.
@@Bob-qk2zg And we all know who is responsible for Russia's and the Russian people's plight.