Short video of my ported Husky 390XP with 32" bar in some pretty hard Casuarina trees. The larger tree had a bit of backlean so instead of wedging it over I used the neighbouring trees to do the hard work for me.
Mr Mattward74 , thanks for posting this video. You made a hard job look very simple. Not many people can do what you did. You are a real pleasure to watch. You have lots of talent. Good job.
Hey thanks for the comment. There are 1000's of people on earth who could do what I do but not many have time to video it and put it on TH-cam :) You'll always have the people who comment that know more than you do (or think they do!) but comments like yours are always welcome. There are certain cuts that are specific to species like Casuarina that people think are incorrect because all they've ever cut down are softwoods with single trunks. These trees have a habit of splitting so sometimes I have to do extra cuts that some people don't understand.
mattward74 Thanks for the reply. I can spot some one that knows how to cut a tree and you know how . Your saw is cutting good. Keep up the great videos. Stay safe. God Bless you sir.
Yeah I have a 550XP on it's way from the US as we speak. The Autotune models certainly look the goods and the rev boost feature looks like it puts the throttle response ahead of Stihl's M-Tronic. The M-Tronic systems are also excellent.
Hi mate. Because of the contract I had no control over what was done with the wood. The vast majority was towed out into open paddocks and burnt. The Casuarina on this property wasn't too bad for firewood as it had grown slower than on the other properties I'd cut on. I think the property manager put a number of larger logs to the side for his own firewood collection.
i own the 576xp with a 32 inch bar and i love it. its all stock except for the big falling spikes and i have a built in tachometer. its not the autotune tho. the next saw im leaning towards in the 562xp. looks like a nice saw
Hi Brent. The 576 Huskies seem to be a good saw (I've never used one) but I would rather have the Auto Tune versions (AT) as they seem to produce excellent power while remaining fuel efficient. As far as the 395XP goes there is no doubt they are a tough and well proven saw and 1000's are used by professionals falling trees every day. I just like the feel of the 390XP's more :)
Hey thanks for the comment. Every now and then I get the odd tree right and not wreck anything ;) I took it pretty cautiously on the first branch as it had a fair bit of weight out to the side and potentially could sheer the hinge off and fall out into the orchard and associated irrigation valves if I cut too quick.
Actually you could be right. All I know is that no load rpm likes to be set around 13,800rpm however I normally tune it in the cut. The US builder had it set at 14,200rpm which is far too lean for our hardwoods. Also lacked torque on longer bars set that lean, not to mention possibly seizing :)
Hahaha! Yeah I know what you mean. Corporate job this one so a legal requirement but it's a rare thing on the internet. A lot of guys really haven't been around long enough to see the injuries that chainsaws can cause and it's not always user error either. I've seen chains break and wrap around people's legs.
Not really :) I did do over 50 in one go a few years back. Didn't manage to get it on video though unfortunately. That's the joy of windbreak trees. They're all lined up for you.
No flies on a 395XP. They are a tough and well proven saw. The 390XP is completely different though. Inboard clutch and better balance for falling but if just cutting up logs all day I'd go a 395XP without hesitation. The only downside of the Huskies at the moment compared to eg the Stihl MS660 is the filtration. Stihl's HD2 filter shits all over the Huskies in our dead hardwood dust. I have to oil all my Husky filters to keep dust out, unlike the Stihl saws I've owned with HD2's.
Nice Bore, just slide er off and giv er. One would know you can't leave a tree cut and stop and sharpen hahaha. Great work, how is that compared to arbutus? Those trees look hard as hell. You can tell she's ported haha, and your an instructor. That's pretty cool. I'm pretty impressed all in all. that second cut was absolutely nice. We're not allowed to domino anymore, but it sure is cool to watch.
Hi mate. Not familiar with arbutus sorry. I had to Google that one but can honestly say I've never seen that species of plant/tree here :) Also I'm not an instructor but am a member of the ATTA (Australian Timber Trainers Association) so have been involved in a lot of training and also know all the latest legislation etc. I have actually helped a few instructors over the years as some of them have been high on theoretical knowledge but low on ability! Technically I'm probably not allowed to domino trees either under Worksafe regulations but in this case you either domino trees or you simply can't get them down safely. Unfortunately a few of the guys that have commented about this video aren't familiar with this particular tree species or this particular falling scenario which is not forestry related at all. They'd be wearing a tree on the head if they used typical single trunked falling techniques. If these trees were going to a mill it would be a whole different scenrio though. Thanks for the comments :)
Very nice chainsaw and cut all 4 with 1 time fill up gas.. I know that's a thousand dollars chainsaw for professional.. I got a 450 Rancher 20" and I like having a bigger chainsaw..
Not at all. If you'd like to explain which parts you think will get me killed then by all means post away. Also as far as getting killed in the bush I'm not sure where you were looking to see any bush. These trees are actually a windbreak in the centre of a horticultural property and the trees in the background are Avocados.
Hi mate. Sadly no. A few logs were by the property manager but the rest was pushed into a pile and burnt. Because these trees were fertilised and irrigated their wood quality is very low. In a natural environment Casuarinas are one of the best burning species on the planet.
What is the longest bar that can reasonably put on that saw for cutting old dry mesquite logs 32" at the narrowest point and 48" at the thickest? If I can't put a 38 inch bar on that saw for cutting what would be a good saw that I can find used that parts are still available on and uses a chain that isn't to difficult to replace with a new one?
+Phillip Kramer Hi mate. My 390XP is ported and will run a 42" bar with 3/8" non skip chain buried in our hardwoods (Eucalypts - some of the hardest timbers in the world). That is absolute max for this saw's power and oiler in these species. On a stock 390XP in softwoods you should be able to run a 42" bar with skip chain easily but otherwise a 32"to 36" bar in harder timber on a stock saw.
@@AH-hi7jg This will pull and oil up to a 42" bar in Australian hardwood but that's definitely the limit. If that bar length is required I'll just use my 3120XP instead. This will happily run a 36" bar all day but the bar in the video is only 32". This saw will run this bar length easily.
Ralph ditore No issues with chain sharpness at all. I'm gathering you're used to cutting northern hemisphere softwoods? These are an Australian hardwood so chains appear dull to guys not used to cutting these species. As far as the way they were stacked they had to be as there was citrus orchards either side. I'd cut for 2 days straight then the orchard managers would clean it all up then I'd come back and cut for another 2 days straight. Completely different setup to what most people would understand. Every single tree I felled out of nearly 50,000 had to drop along the tree line.
Replying to the comments is the hardest part :) If everybody read all the other comments before they made their own they'd find the explanations have already been given.
the only thing about that saw that i dont like is the half wrap handle bars the dont allow for many positions for the saw when your falling thats why professionals have full wap saws
Actually that's a funny one. Australian professional fallers don't use full wrap handles. it seems to be more of a US thing. I've never found that they're needed in any situation I've cut trees in.
you only need full wrap chainsaws when cutting in rough terrain where stump height isnt such an issue. in wisconsin we strive for a 4 inch stump, even in big timber.
Heh heh. Yeah I agree. Unfortunately in this scenario it is safer to domino them than to get in under each tree as they have a lot of interlocking canopies. Wedging individual trees over can be near impossible when they are hooked into the next one. Easier and faster to knock the lot over. Smacking trees with other trees is a big no no in forestry even though most people have to do it from time to time.
Good answer.i ran saws on vancouver island for 23 years. NOT a pro faller but did do shake blocks and did fall a few small ones.We all learned way back,,never to approach this idea of dropping them. But as you say,sometimes there is not alot of choices!!
DOUG FERGUSON It would definitely be frowned upon in a forestry scenario but without doing the odd domino these trees would be completely unviable to fell. They have absolutely no timber value. Forestry has no authority over this job and if they did it would never get done as many of these trees are too big for the maximum head capacity of machines here.
Hi mate. I won't get into it but you've obviously never cut Australian hardwood. Dust and blunt chain comments never come from Australians but only guys in the Northern Hemisphere. The majority of Australian hardwoods throw dust regardless of the chain sharpness. If I ran a brand new loop of Stihl RSLK square in this timber it will throw just as much dust and it is something completely unheard of in the US/Canada etc. The dust you can see in this video is not from a blunt chain, trust me. If you don't believe me talk to Stihl or Husqvarna in Australia. The chain in this video if I was cutting pine would be throwing big fat chips and no dust.
mattward74 Maybe he meant it wasn't the "official" size, it should be 1/3rd of the total width. But imo every cut is different, and if its done, and is done safely, that considered to be good.
1c3maaan In the "textbooks" it should be 1/3rd of the width. Another factor to take into consideration is the 80% rule which most inexperienced and unqualified people know nothing about. Remember though that this tree isn't treated as one. Because of bifurcated Casuarinas which regularly split between the two main leaders you have to treat trees like this as actually two trees. Therefore my cuts were foreign to those guys who fell single trunked trees all day.
first day on the job? the big open face notch you made was a waste of time i have been a logger for 30 yrs i would have had all those trees on the ground by the time you got done the that huge open face notch ...where did you learn to cut a tree for gods sake?? another thing why dont keep the rakers filed down so that thing cuts....all i saw was saw dust and no chips.
Long way from my first day on the job. It may also surprise you but I am a forestry qualified faller :) I can tell that you are more than likely from the US, used to cutting single trunked softwoods, probably running square or round full chisel, and definitely have not cut Australian hardwoods before. If you had the same experience in this species as I have you would be doing pretty well exactly what I do. Dust is normal with Australian hardwoods regardless of chain sharpness. This is probably the 200th time I've had to explain dust from our wood to guys in North America/Canada. It is completely foreign to them that a sharp chain can produce dust - the same chain in this video in Pine will be throwing 1" chips out everywhere. Just talk to Stihl Australia or Husqvarna Australia about dust from our hardwoods. Stihl were replacing saws under warranty from dust ingression up until they released the HD2 filter system which solved all the problems. Huskys still have problems if you don't run filter oil. If you ever want a tree felling race in this wood let me know. Fallers/loggers that are used to softwoods have absolutely no idea in this stuff - no offence but I wouldn't tell you how to fell a Cedar or Fir.
here in michigan we dont cut soft wood dumb ass we cut hard maple red & white oak walnut hickory and ash not fucking pine or spruce like you were cutting.. WE cut TRUE hard wood
OH and BTW we plunge cut hardwood trees here not hack thru with a back cut thats a real good way to fuck up a 2 or 3000 dollar tree by pulling the heart and leaving splinters attached to the stump
Awesome skills there buddy! Love the domino effect. Thats a mean sounding saw too.
Thanks mate. I had to hold my tongue on the right side for it to work.
Mr Mattward74 , thanks for posting this video.
You made a hard job look very simple.
Not many people can do what you did.
You are a real pleasure to watch.
You have lots of talent.
Good job.
Hey thanks for the comment. There are 1000's of people on earth who could do what I do but not many have time to video it and put it on TH-cam :) You'll always have the people who comment that know more than you do (or think they do!) but comments like yours are always welcome. There are certain cuts that are specific to species like Casuarina that people think are incorrect because all they've ever cut down are softwoods with single trunks. These trees have a habit of splitting so sometimes I have to do extra cuts that some people don't understand.
mattward74 Thanks for the reply.
I can spot some one that knows how to cut a tree and you know how .
Your saw is cutting good.
Keep up the great videos.
Stay safe.
God Bless you sir.
That was awesome and smart falling job! Good work mate...I meant Matt:)
Great saw. Enjoyed the video. This is talent, not the 1st trip in the woods 4 sure. Outstanding.
Just bought this saw like what im seeing ,Nice and safe job !
Thanks James. They're a great saw and alongside the Dolmar 7900 are my favourite falling saw. Very well balanced.
Yeah a 1/16-1/8 of turn out would probably get ya back in the safe zone in that hard stuff!
Cheers and keep posting the cool vids!
Thanks for the comments mate. Appreciate having somebody make a comment that is constructive for a change :)
Anthony Wop
Dammit man!!! I sure will!!!
Yeah I have a 550XP on it's way from the US as we speak. The Autotune models certainly look the goods and the rev boost feature looks like it puts the throttle response ahead of Stihl's M-Tronic. The M-Tronic systems are also excellent.
Man that 390XP screams! I love it, good video :D
Hi mate.
Because of the contract I had no control over what was done with the wood. The vast majority was towed out into open paddocks and burnt.
The Casuarina on this property wasn't too bad for firewood as it had grown slower than on the other properties I'd cut on. I think the property manager put a number of larger logs to the side for his own firewood collection.
Twice the fun, four in one !! Nice job...
Thanks :)
Yea I might have to check into the 550XP since I climb trees and that rev boost seems like it would be helpful and I'm sure it is lighter
i own the 576xp with a 32 inch bar and i love it. its all stock except for the big falling spikes and i have a built in tachometer. its not the autotune tho. the next saw im leaning towards in the 562xp. looks like a nice saw
Hi Brent.
The 576 Huskies seem to be a good saw (I've never used one) but I would rather have the Auto Tune versions (AT) as they seem to produce excellent power while remaining fuel efficient. As far as the 395XP goes there is no doubt they are a tough and well proven saw and 1000's are used by professionals falling trees every day. I just like the feel of the 390XP's more :)
Till ur 200 miles from a dealer that can actually fix the damn thing
Hey thanks for the comment. Every now and then I get the odd tree right and not wreck anything ;) I took it pretty cautiously on the first branch as it had a fair bit of weight out to the side and potentially could sheer the hinge off and fall out into the orchard and associated irrigation valves if I cut too quick.
nice work ! good job !
so you don't wanna play dominos eh?? let me show you my trump card... good work as usual mate, a pleasure to watch someone with ability
Good Job. Congratulation!
GREAT VIDEO!!
Saw sounds like she might need to be fattened up on the "High" adjustment a touch though.
Actually you could be right. All I know is that no load rpm likes to be set around 13,800rpm however I normally tune it in the cut. The US builder had it set at 14,200rpm which is far too lean for our hardwoods. Also lacked torque on longer bars set that lean, not to mention possibly seizing :)
mattward74 Very Cool!
Thanks mate. I love the 390's :)
Finally someone that wears saw pants lol
Hahaha! Yeah I know what you mean. Corporate job this one so a legal requirement but it's a rare thing on the internet. A lot of guys really haven't been around long enough to see the injuries that chainsaws can cause and it's not always user error either. I've seen chains break and wrap around people's legs.
Your chainsaw sounds so wonderful a ideal.
Thanks :)
4 trees in one go you are clever :)
Not really :) I did do over 50 in one go a few years back. Didn't manage to get it on video though unfortunately. That's the joy of windbreak trees. They're all lined up for you.
No flies on a 395XP. They are a tough and well proven saw. The 390XP is completely different though. Inboard clutch and better balance for falling but if just cutting up logs all day I'd go a 395XP without hesitation. The only downside of the Huskies at the moment compared to eg the Stihl MS660 is the filtration. Stihl's HD2 filter shits all over the Huskies in our dead hardwood dust. I have to oil all my Husky filters to keep dust out, unlike the Stihl saws I've owned with HD2's.
Stihl filtration sucks period. Never has been worth a damn. Husky is light years ahead.
Worst part was cleaning up that mess. I know, been there done that......nice job man
Luckily I wasn't the one cleaning it up :)
Nice Bore, just slide er off and giv er. One would know you can't leave a tree cut and stop and sharpen hahaha. Great work, how is that compared to arbutus? Those trees look hard as hell. You can tell she's ported haha, and your an instructor. That's pretty cool. I'm pretty impressed all in all. that second cut was absolutely nice. We're not allowed to domino anymore, but it sure is cool to watch.
Hi mate.
Not familiar with arbutus sorry. I had to Google that one but can honestly say I've never seen that species of plant/tree here :) Also I'm not an instructor but am a member of the ATTA (Australian Timber Trainers Association) so have been involved in a lot of training and also know all the latest legislation etc. I have actually helped a few instructors over the years as some of them have been high on theoretical knowledge but low on ability! Technically I'm probably not allowed to domino trees either under Worksafe regulations but in this case you either domino trees or you simply can't get them down safely. Unfortunately a few of the guys that have commented about this video aren't familiar with this particular tree species or this particular falling scenario which is not forestry related at all. They'd be wearing a tree on the head if they used typical single trunked falling techniques. If these trees were going to a mill it would be a whole different scenrio though. Thanks for the comments :)
Hi mate. No all my ported saws have been built by Brad Snelling in the US. He posts videos on TH-cam under blsnelling.
Very nice chainsaw and cut all 4 with 1 time fill up gas.. I know that's a thousand dollars chainsaw for professional.. I got a 450 Rancher 20" and I like having a bigger chainsaw..
it is got the 562 XPG with a 24" bar love it
Okay, Okay, my comment was made before the domino affect!
Yeah windbreak trees and Domino's rewrite all the falling textbooks. I'd be sacked doing this in a forestry scenario.
So you didn't see the slight overcut on the first branch then? :) Thanks for the comment mate.
Not at all. If you'd like to explain which parts you think will get me killed then by all means post away. Also as far as getting killed in the bush I'm not sure where you were looking to see any bush. These trees are actually a windbreak in the centre of a horticultural property and the trees in the background are Avocados.
What comes from that wood , will it be blocked up and split and used for winter heat ?
Hi mate. Sadly no. A few logs were by the property manager but the rest was pushed into a pile and burnt. Because these trees were fertilised and irrigated their wood quality is very low. In a natural environment Casuarinas are one of the best burning species on the planet.
very cool
Do you do your own saw porting or muffler mods?I would love to have my 576XP done
What is the longest bar that can reasonably put on that saw for cutting old dry mesquite logs 32" at the narrowest point and 48" at the thickest? If I can't put a 38 inch bar on that saw for cutting what would be a good saw that I can find used that parts are still available on and uses a chain that isn't to difficult to replace with a new one?
+Phillip Kramer Hi mate. My 390XP is ported and will run a 42" bar with 3/8" non skip chain buried in our hardwoods (Eucalypts - some of the hardest timbers in the world). That is absolute max for this saw's power and oiler in these species. On a stock 390XP in softwoods you should be able to run a 42" bar with skip chain easily but otherwise a 32"to 36" bar in harder timber on a stock saw.
Matt. You should have used a 395 xp. The 390 is under pressure.
Actually this saw is ported mate so putting out a fair bit more power and torque than a stock 395XP. The 395's are good saws though.
@@mattward74. Hi matt.what is the largest bar you can put on a 390 xp?
@@AH-hi7jg This will pull and oil up to a 42" bar in Australian hardwood but that's definitely the limit. If that bar length is required I'll just use my 3120XP instead. This will happily run a 36" bar all day but the bar in the video is only 32". This saw will run this bar length easily.
@@mattward74 . Are the 390 xp that powerfull matt. I have a 24 inch bar on mine.
@@AH-hi7jg Yeah they certainly are. The 390XP's are only a few cc under a 395XP for capacity.
what did you do with the wood
dull blade... and why would you stack trees on top of each other to make it extremely difficult to clean up?
Ralph ditore No issues with chain sharpness at all. I'm gathering you're used to cutting northern hemisphere softwoods? These are an Australian hardwood so chains appear dull to guys not used to cutting these species.
As far as the way they were stacked they had to be as there was citrus orchards either side. I'd cut for 2 days straight then the orchard managers would clean it all up then I'd come back and cut for another 2 days straight. Completely different setup to what most people would understand. Every single tree I felled out of nearly 50,000 had to drop along the tree line.
nice
Am I the only one to notice the wardrobe oops! "STIHL" suspenders while using a Husqvarna saw?????
***** My sister sports a beard. So you'll be OK with her.
mojofish1 Sisters with beards. Outstanding!!!
Surgically cut down trees in the video, then surgically cut down a forest of cockiness in the comments. Haha! Impressive!
Replying to the comments is the hardest part :) If everybody read all the other comments before they made their own they'd find the explanations have already been given.
Work smarter,not harder.
the only thing about that saw that i dont like is the half wrap handle bars the dont allow for many positions for the saw when your falling thats why professionals have full wap saws
Actually that's a funny one. Australian professional fallers don't use full wrap handles. it seems to be more of a US thing. I've never found that they're needed in any situation I've cut trees in.
you only need full wrap chainsaws when cutting in rough terrain where stump height isnt such an issue. in wisconsin we strive for a 4 inch stump, even in big timber.
austin denotter you WISH you had a 4" stump.
what about the fact that he was wearing personal protective equipment huh huh huh ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?
Chain not sharp or that tree really hard
Chain was definitely sharp. This is a Casuarina so an Australian hardwood.
Dominos,,,,,,,naughty naughty ~~~~
Heh heh. Yeah I agree. Unfortunately in this scenario it is safer to domino them than to get in under each tree as they have a lot of interlocking canopies. Wedging individual trees over can be near impossible when they are hooked into the next one. Easier and faster to knock the lot over. Smacking trees with other trees is a big no no in forestry even though most people have to do it from time to time.
Good answer.i ran saws on vancouver island for 23 years. NOT a pro faller but did do shake blocks and did fall a few small ones.We all learned way back,,never to approach this idea of dropping them. But as you say,sometimes there is not alot of choices!!
DOUG FERGUSON
It would definitely be frowned upon in a forestry scenario but without doing the odd domino these trees would be completely unviable to fell. They have absolutely no timber value. Forestry has no authority over this job and if they did it would never get done as many of these trees are too big for the maximum head capacity of machines here.
quadra kill
damn dude, stop and sharpen the chain.....
Hi mate.
I won't get into it but you've obviously never cut Australian hardwood. Dust and blunt chain comments never come from Australians but only guys in the Northern Hemisphere. The majority of Australian hardwoods throw dust regardless of the chain sharpness. If I ran a brand new loop of Stihl RSLK square in this timber it will throw just as much dust and it is something completely unheard of in the US/Canada etc. The dust you can see in this video is not from a blunt chain, trust me. If you don't believe me talk to Stihl or Husqvarna in Australia.
The chain in this video if I was cutting pine would be throwing big fat chips and no dust.
oh ok, can't say I have cut anything down-under....keep up the good work.
Sheoak is very dense timber makes all saws look blunt ;)
That second notch was kind of a junk show
What do you mean by "junk show"?
mattward74 Maybe he meant it wasn't the "official" size, it should be 1/3rd of the total width. But imo every cut is different, and if its done, and is done safely, that considered to be good.
1c3maaan
In the "textbooks" it should be 1/3rd of the width. Another factor to take into consideration is the 80% rule which most inexperienced and unqualified people know nothing about. Remember though that this tree isn't treated as one. Because of bifurcated Casuarinas which regularly split between the two main leaders you have to treat trees like this as actually two trees. Therefore my cuts were foreign to those guys who fell single trunked trees all day.
Show off..
If I was showing off I'd have put tassels on my saw and flashing lights on my helmet.
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first day on the job? the big open face notch you made was a waste of time i have been a logger for 30 yrs i would have had all those trees on the ground by the time you got done the that huge open face notch ...where did you learn to cut a tree for gods sake?? another thing why dont keep the rakers filed down so that thing cuts....all i saw was saw dust and no chips.
Long way from my first day on the job. It may also surprise you but I am a forestry qualified faller :) I can tell that you are more than likely from the US, used to cutting single trunked softwoods, probably running square or round full chisel, and definitely have not cut Australian hardwoods before. If you had the same experience in this species as I have you would be doing pretty well exactly what I do.
Dust is normal with Australian hardwoods regardless of chain sharpness. This is probably the 200th time I've had to explain dust from our wood to guys in North America/Canada. It is completely foreign to them that a sharp chain can produce dust - the same chain in this video in Pine will be throwing 1" chips out everywhere. Just talk to Stihl Australia or Husqvarna Australia about dust from our hardwoods. Stihl were replacing saws under warranty from dust ingression up until they released the HD2 filter system which solved all the problems. Huskys still have problems if you don't run filter oil.
If you ever want a tree felling race in this wood let me know. Fallers/loggers that are used to softwoods have absolutely no idea in this stuff - no offence but I wouldn't tell you how to fell a Cedar or Fir.
here in michigan we dont cut soft wood dumb ass we cut hard maple red & white oak walnut hickory and ash not fucking pine or spruce like you were cutting.. WE cut TRUE hard wood
OH and BTW we plunge cut hardwood trees here not hack thru with a back cut thats a real good way to fuck up a 2 or 3000 dollar tree by pulling the heart and leaving splinters attached to the stump
446hemi dumb yanky fuck