nice garden layout. The simplicity of your track layout shows that you don't always have to make it complex to enjoy it. Well done !! Any further plans ?
Hi Thomas. I'll try my German:) Was fuer eine tolle Gartenbahn. Das Video war sehr gut gedreht und vor allen dingen als der arme Mann ueberfahren wurde... das war ja luestig :)))
Beautiful Layout exactly what I want to do , I have a house near Heinsberg with a big property and that is going to be my blank canvas to make my layout . I already built a nice size koi pond need a bridge to run trains over it !
Hi, glad you like it. The engine: LGB Mogul 22192. We paid 1495,- DM in 1994 in a toy store in Lübeck, northern Germany. A bargain back then! Today you can get it for as little as 300,-€ at eBay. Outrageous, but explains why LGB and later Märklin went bankrupt. You can get the engines and all of the cars at eBay. No mater whether in Europe or in the USA.
I've been collecting LGB cars and loco's, but I have not yet laid any track. Would you please tell me how you made your roadbed. Did you anchor your track to the concrete blocks and did you lay your track on cork board or some other sound damping material? Vance
Vance Holman Hey Vance, our version might not be for the ages, but we created a solution that aimed towards creating an even-leveled roadbed with little or no bumps and unwanted slopes: Before starting with the rock-fill we built sections of the actual trackbed out of waterproofed timber (9 cm wide and 4,5 cm thick). Then we bonded them together with rafter-screws so that about 5-6 meters of track are founded by one single piece of 'wooden-skeleton'. No slopes or bumps in this foundation whatsoever!!! (The result: very very smoooooth running - almost gliding - of the trains... not quite like our previous attempts in the past... .) Now the rock-fill: We started out with a core of construction sand with rocks left an right to stabilize it. After spreading one layer of sand about 5-10 cm high we just walked and stamped over it to condense it - rocks left and right keeps it in place. Then, after adding layer after layer, we sealed up the sand-core with a cap of foundation-concrete to prevent rainwater from washing out the sand-core. This doesn't have to be 100% waterproof; it's just to protect the sand-core from major downpours. Right after spreading the concrete we squeezed the 'wooden-skeleton' onto the fresh concrete. Another advantage of the wooden foundation is the fact that it is very easy to mount the sleepers. Of course the wood is not going to withstand the next 30 years due to corrosion, but if this is sturdy enough to last the next say 10-15 years, we'll be more than happy. After that we spread out foundation-concrete left and right of the wooden roadbed to create a slope in order to make water drainage more favorable. (You can see this point of construction at approx. 2:20 in the video). Finally we mixed a basalt gravel - concrete mixture of about 7:3 to 7:4 to help keep the gravel-roadbed in place. The good thing about basalt gravel is that it is very pointy, looks very realistic and allows the cement-powder to wash beautifully into the gaps and pores of the roadbed. (In detail: you spread out the basalt-concrete-mix dry with a simple hand-broom or brush and once the bed is in place you hose it down gently to add the required water for binding) That's how we did it. Of course winter is gonna break up some of that concrete, but it was not our intent to create a SOLID (one piece) gravel road bed. The actual load bearing is done by the wooden skeleton and the compressed sand undereath. All we need are sufficient chunks that don't fall out of place once you brush over them when you clear the track of the usual fall- and winter induced road obstructions. Those chunks are then again held in place by concrete-mounted rocks left and right of the roadbed. So there's nowhere to go for the gravel. Wow...what an essay... but when you do something like this is you do it by heart and it's a lot of fun to write about it. I hope this gave you some aid and inspiration of how it CAN be done. All the best for your project. Feel free to drop a note sometime on how it went! :-)
Oh, and in the back (the concrete block area), we did not mount the tracks. That part doesn't get a lot of sunlight, so we don't have as much track-expansion as in the more scenic part in the front of the layout. Plus, using the gravel method back there in the shadow would lead to a serious moss problem within a few years. But more importantly: that area is also subject for reconstructions, extensions, etc.. So we kept that part a little more... 'temporary'... Sound damping was not really our main concern. But since most of the roadbed lies on solid ground which again rests of sound-swallowing soft ground with no room for resonance, we don't really have a problem. The only parts where you can hear a humming is on the bridge-abutments following both bridges. Those parts were improvised on site and are subject to resonance. Those might be exchanged sometimes by a killer treslte-construction sometime in the future. We'll see.
Hallo, Thomas! Na da warst du aber schon mal richtig fleißig! Die Idee mit dem Deck und der Bahntrasse integriert gefällt uns besonders gut! Eine Frage: Wo hast du die Weichenstellhebel aufgetrieben? Wir bauen die Teile selbst. Kostet viel Zeit! LG aus Elstal Jens Handro
Jens Handro Moinsen, das Ding hab ich auch selbst zusammenbauen müssen - war in der Tat recht arbeitsintensiv. Hab ich von OZARK miniatures bei Modell-werkstatt.de bestellt. Dieses Teil musste ich einfach haben! Hast Du die Widmung gesehen? :-D In diesem Sinne frohes Schaffen und Danke für Deine Videos!!!
Ist lustig! Wenn du das Teil von Bertram Heyn hast uns in seinem Internetladen stöberst, findest du bei den Weichenstellhebeln ein Foto! Das ist auf unserer Anlage entstanden. So lernt man sich kennen! Bis später...!
+Magicalportal -a channel about wooden trains Guess again... if you look closely all you see is what nature provides: rocks, sand, gravel, some wood and just a touch of concrete. That's the beauty of sitting down, making careful calculations and designing it on a level that ensures the outmost cost efficiency! I mean anybody can blow thousands of Euros on a wasteful layout with no respect to the value of the money used. But as you can see, you can make a beautiful, cheap and efficient layout if you give enough thought to what you want to do and how you want to do it - checking prices, alter construction methods if costs are too high, and carefully draw out all details on paper so that not a single piece of wood or whatever you use, was purchased in vain. Besides, we've been collecting trains and track for 23 years now, so... it would have been a shameful waste to never built an appropriate layout to which these beautiful models - whose development has ensured the jobs of hundreds of people by the way - are entitled. At least that's my point of view.
An exceptionally polished video - in all respects. Thank you.
Very nicely done. It looks great. Two thumbs up
Very cool! Gandalf scene was a nice touch. Your English is superb, too. :)
Lovely layout
nice garden layout. The simplicity of your track layout shows that you don't always have to make it complex to enjoy it. Well done !! Any further plans ?
Nice job . Enjoyed the video
Hi Thomas. I'll try my German:) Was fuer eine tolle Gartenbahn. Das Video war sehr gut gedreht und vor allen dingen als der arme Mann ueberfahren wurde... das war ja luestig :)))
+wellardme
Cool, nä? :-)
Sehr schönes Video! Gefällt mir wirklich! Liebe Grüße Peter
Great work, thanks for sharing.
Beautiful Layout exactly what I want to do , I have a house near Heinsberg with a big property and that is going to be my blank canvas to make my layout . I already built a nice size koi pond need a bridge to run trains over it !
very well done. nice layout. i'm planning on an O gauge layout for my pond. initial plan with a bridge and tunnels.
Nice layout and video.
***** Greatly appreciated! Thanx! :-D
Wirklich tolle Anlage Ich hätte auch eine gerne
Very impressive!
Tolle Anlage
I just posted a link to your video on my LGB Trains Forever Fans Page on facebook. Great video too.
+SCIONIZER
That's greatly appreciated! Thank you! :-)
Check out my LGB Skyway layout video if you have a chance too. Great video too. Take care now.
great well done
Exelente lo realizado.
pero una pregunta. donde se consiguen los rieles
at 2:50 what train is that? loco and passengers ? where you bought?
Hi, glad you like it.
The engine: LGB Mogul 22192. We paid 1495,- DM in 1994 in a toy store in Lübeck, northern Germany. A bargain back then! Today you can get it for as little as 300,-€ at eBay. Outrageous, but explains why LGB and later Märklin went bankrupt.
You can get the engines and all of the cars at eBay. No mater whether in Europe or in the USA.
really nice i would proud if it
I've been collecting LGB cars and loco's, but I have not yet laid any track. Would you please tell me how you made your roadbed. Did you anchor your track to the concrete blocks and did you lay your track on cork board or some other sound damping material?
Vance
Vance Holman
Hey Vance,
our version might not be for the ages, but we created a solution that aimed towards creating an even-leveled roadbed with little or no bumps and unwanted slopes:
Before starting with the rock-fill we built sections of the actual trackbed out of waterproofed timber (9 cm wide and 4,5 cm thick). Then we bonded them together with rafter-screws so that about 5-6 meters of track are founded by one single piece of 'wooden-skeleton'. No slopes or bumps in this foundation whatsoever!!!
(The result: very very smoooooth running - almost gliding - of the trains... not quite like our previous attempts in the past... .)
Now the rock-fill:
We started out with a core of construction sand with rocks left an right to stabilize it. After spreading one layer of sand about 5-10 cm high we just walked and stamped over it to condense it - rocks left and right keeps it in place. Then, after adding layer after layer, we sealed up the sand-core with a cap of foundation-concrete to prevent rainwater from washing out the sand-core. This doesn't have to be 100% waterproof; it's just to protect the sand-core from major downpours.
Right after spreading the concrete we squeezed the 'wooden-skeleton' onto the fresh concrete. Another advantage of the wooden foundation is the fact that it is very easy to mount the sleepers. Of course the wood is not going to withstand the next 30 years due to corrosion, but if this is sturdy enough to last the next say 10-15 years, we'll be more than happy.
After that we spread out foundation-concrete left and right of the wooden roadbed to create a slope in order to make water drainage more favorable. (You can see this point of construction at approx. 2:20 in the video).
Finally we mixed a basalt gravel - concrete mixture of about 7:3 to 7:4 to help keep the gravel-roadbed in place. The good thing about basalt gravel is that it is very pointy, looks very realistic and allows the cement-powder to wash beautifully into the gaps and pores of the roadbed. (In detail: you spread out the basalt-concrete-mix dry with a simple hand-broom or brush and once the bed is in place you hose it down gently to add the required water for binding)
That's how we did it. Of course winter is gonna break up some of that concrete, but it was not our intent to create a SOLID (one piece) gravel road bed. The actual load bearing is done by the wooden skeleton and the compressed sand undereath. All we need are sufficient chunks that don't fall out of place once you brush over them when you clear the track of the usual fall- and winter induced road obstructions. Those chunks are then again held in place by concrete-mounted rocks left and right of the roadbed. So there's nowhere to go for the gravel.
Wow...what an essay... but when you do something like this is you do it by heart and it's a lot of fun to write about it. I hope this gave you some aid and inspiration of how it CAN be done.
All the best for your project. Feel free to drop a note sometime on how it went! :-)
Oh, and in the back (the concrete block area), we did not mount the tracks.
That part doesn't get a lot of sunlight, so we don't have as much track-expansion as in the more scenic part in the front of the layout. Plus, using the gravel method back there in the shadow would lead to a serious moss problem within a few years.
But more importantly: that area is also subject for reconstructions, extensions, etc.. So we kept that part a little more... 'temporary'...
Sound damping was not really our main concern. But since most of the roadbed lies on solid ground which again rests of sound-swallowing soft ground with no room for resonance, we don't really have a problem. The only parts where you can hear a humming is on the bridge-abutments following both bridges. Those parts were improvised on site and are subject to resonance. Those might be exchanged sometimes by a killer treslte-construction sometime in the future. We'll see.
hallo super Film ..bist du in einem Forum drinnen ??
Hallo, Thomas!
Na da warst du aber schon mal richtig fleißig!
Die Idee mit dem Deck und der Bahntrasse integriert gefällt uns besonders gut!
Eine Frage: Wo hast du die Weichenstellhebel aufgetrieben?
Wir bauen die Teile selbst. Kostet viel Zeit!
LG aus Elstal
Jens Handro
Jens Handro
Moinsen,
das Ding hab ich auch selbst zusammenbauen müssen - war in der Tat recht arbeitsintensiv. Hab ich von OZARK miniatures bei Modell-werkstatt.de bestellt. Dieses Teil musste ich einfach haben!
Hast Du die Widmung gesehen? :-D
In diesem Sinne frohes Schaffen und Danke für Deine Videos!!!
Ist lustig! Wenn du das Teil von Bertram Heyn hast uns in seinem Internetladen stöberst, findest du bei den Weichenstellhebeln ein Foto! Das ist auf unserer Anlage entstanden. So lernt man sich kennen! Bis später...!
Jens Handro
Ich weiß, deshalb war ich zunächst etwas überrascht über Deine Anfrage... egal :-) Hau rein!
Na, ja! Sieht eben sehr gut aus auf dem Video! Hätte ja eine andere Quelle sein können!
So much retirement money must have been lost when making the railway... Let's never forget them.
+Magicalportal -a channel about wooden trains
Guess again... if you look closely all you see is what nature provides: rocks, sand, gravel, some wood and just a touch of concrete. That's the beauty of sitting down, making careful calculations and designing it on a level that ensures the outmost cost efficiency! I mean anybody can blow thousands of Euros on a wasteful layout with no respect to the value of the money used. But as you can see, you can make a beautiful, cheap and efficient layout if you give enough thought to what you want to do and how you want to do it - checking prices, alter construction methods if costs are too high, and carefully draw out all details on paper so that not a single piece of wood or whatever you use, was purchased in vain.
Besides, we've been collecting trains and track for 23 years now, so... it would have been a shameful waste to never built an appropriate layout to which these beautiful models - whose development has ensured the jobs of hundreds of people by the way - are entitled. At least that's my point of view.
+Magicalportal -a channel about wooden trains
I know... but I never wrote anything about the costs. So I fealt like sharing that. :-)
how big is you're original section
Dude, that IS the original section. About 30 meters of track.
Thank you you have a beautiful layout what
What radius are you running LGB 18000
nice
This is not begginers
Sambie1350 why thank you! 😀
Vidéo très cool