and my geraldo. he's the only hero I've invested in (ignoring corvus cus of the hype around his release) and the only hero I ever use. Bring back the golden days...
I remember first ever purchasing Geraldo and immediately thinking, wow this guy is well worth the price, especially with how much he makes himself so convenient, then I noticed all the nerfs and and got far too overwhelmed with all of what he does
inflation is getting out of hand in the BTD verse( because of the excessive farming for bosses). Geraldo is just trying to make a living with all of this inflation going on
I remember that I would usually use him over Ben in normal games pretty much (I always use him in Boss Events if available) and he was like my #1 go to hero pretty much every time. I used him to beat pretty much most of the beginner, some intermediate and few advanced maps on CHIMPS (in my own way ofc), but yeah, these nerfs are _really_ getting out of hand for this guy here… 🙁
@@MasterKnightDH it's chimps expert map, if you look at the heroes tierlist for casual chimps, he is still S tier, plus, he is still on the same tier as Sauda, or even higher
@@MasterKnightDH I feel like that shouldn't be that surprising tbh, considering all geraldo's cash boosting utility is missing in chimps, whereas ninja and druid spam are some of the most effective chimps strats, which obyn combos well with
I think pretty much all the nerfs have been necessary, in it's release Geraldo was the most brain dead win button I have ever seen, and nowadays it's still stupidly strong. As I said once we all know how obsessed is ISAB with saving every last dollar and he uses Geraldo in almost EVERY video and does not have a problem overspending a few items (he literally said It once). If that does not show how strong it's still Geraldo nothing will.
Gotta love a hero that rewards smart usage of limited items in exchange for the main tower being weak getting nerfed making anyone using him casually just punished with a weaker option then just plopping down a sauda or adora.
I do not understand why they made Geraldo utility more high maintenance and less reliable than corpus and his spells, back to the nourishment mines I go
Its his versatility. He can handle any situation. There isn't anything he doesn't do. You can't even get tier 100 paragons without him. He makes money better than Benjamin. Ultimately I would rather see some items disappear from his store than the price increases. I don't see the nerfs stopping unless they can either delete jar of pickles or sharpening stone. He can keep one, the other has to go.
A few updates back Geraldo fought back with one of the most notorious bugs in the game, the Rejuv potion completely restocking the shop (including the spent rejuv potion instantly restocking), which meant for a few days it had an unprecedented buff.
The camo potion nerf (I think it was in the Mermonkey update) was what REALLY killed Geraldo for me. Having it only last 5 rounds instead of 10 is annoying enough on its own; That effectively doubles the amount of cash that you have to spend on camo potions, as well as making an already high maintenance hero *even more* prone to human error because you have to remember to reapply the effect every 5 rounds, which has always been one of his biggest balancing factors. I still haven't gotten used to this change, and it's caused me to lose many Chimps games since it happened. 5 rounds might sound like a fairly long time still, but it goes by quick. Those camo rounds really do sneak up on you if you aren't 100% focused and paying attention all the time. The real kicker though is the fact that camo potion no longer has 100% uptime on a single tower. They decreased the duration of the potion, but they forgot to make it replenish faster in the shop to compensate for that change. So as it stands currently, if you're using camo potions efficiently, as well as using stack of nails to pop the round 24 camo instead of wasting a full potion on it, you will end up running out of camo potion uptime on round 59. *ROUND 59.* This hero has an entire item in his shop dedicated to camo detection, and it's now only a temporary solution that isn't even good enough to let you beat medium mode. I've always held that no matter what else on his kit got nerfed, Geraldo would still be worth using for the consistently useful game-to-game utility that full uptime camo potions provided, but in my opinion, that one change is the single most devastating nerf he's ever received. The hero that, in Ninja Kiwi's own words, is SUPPOSED to be a "top level hero" that is "literally designed to be so as the most rewarding for your player knowledge and reaction to moment to moment gameplay" slid out of S tier for the first time *ever* in that update, and has since then only remained "slightly above average I guess" in the eyes of most players. Additionally, they keep senselessly nerfing every other item in his kit with each passing update, and now it's sort of reached to the point where you gotta ask yourself, is it even worth all the effort it takes to use Geraldo anymore? Justice for my man Geraldo. He didn't deserve all this.
He's still very top tier, just because he can do things no other heroes can. He's strong in early and doesnt fall off in late game, he can even farm money and help to get paragons.
@RoundShades the list only applies to chimps but yea he's def outclassed. except for blackborders bc you do not want any money left so you can just keep spamming his items
@@wayne8691In normal play you can just farm to pay for his items. Every price nerf in chimps and bosses is a way bigger deal though. He shouldn’t be nerfed further imo
now i'm gonna wait for a slight corvus nerf, since if you know how to play him, he's insane, plus, i think the reward for playing him well is too much, so a slight nerf is needed instead of an overkill
I feel bad for geraldo enjoyers. He went from spicing up the gameplay with more options to needing to lock in on what you want to do. His reliability went from great to shameful.
NK's decision to keep nerfing Geraldo has kinda nerfed my desire to keep playing this game, and it makes me really sad. I feel like Geraldo occupied a similar space as Corvus where, yes, he is very powerful, but you really need to know what you're doing with him to tap into that power.
Good combination with t3 caped supermonkeys. Save like 2550 from one avatar alone, at the cost of 1100 for discounts. The second discount saves 850 per sm, at the cost for 1100, which still helps because now you get both village paths and it still paid for itself with the second sm
Beats chimps with 35k to spare on a harder intermediate map with a strategy that was more for fun than to actually try. Yeah Geraldo is doing just fine
Yep I think its ridiculous! Along with the Ben changes, they hardly give us the option anymore between either of them in boss events! Give geraldo his old dmg buff back if they wanna change things, I'm talking about his normal magic atk.
As a fan of Geraldo, i think the NFT and the paragon totem has got to go. These 2 options far and away outshine the rest of his kit which is sad because these 2 items feel the least connected to his core design of having a wide range of buffs/utility. The NFT lets Geraldo create way too much money advantage that even Benjamin cant really compete with ON TOP OF having fertilizer which i think is all the money gen he needs and feels much more in-character. Paragon totems mean you NEED Geraldo to hit degree 100 solo which imo is just terrible game design. Seriously, why is this locked behind A SINGLE HERO? I believe paragon totems should be reworked into something that opens up in freeplay or like t3 of a boss. I think if they took them out then they could better justify him being the more buff-oriented hero, but as it stands he just does everything since hero dps basically doesn't matter in bosses/lategame. This is kind of an overarching problem i have with most heroes feeling like dead weight past round 80 while Geraldo is unquestionably the best 1-40 hero and probably top 3 in freeplay behind Ezili and maybe Adora. There's a reason he's banned in like half the boss events.
Why are you guys surprised? NK have always been devoted with their nerfs. They often go so far as to nerf kill towers and target the towers most popular. Think about it, they always target the more popular towers, not necessarily the strongest. And when are they going to make TSG and VTSG worth it again? They have been completely ignored since the first paragon made it's appearance. The dart paragon is literally stronger than the VTSG and it costs less than a tenth of the cost of the paragon.
The other way arround, the game has been powercreeped way to the point were 1.0 comanche would be "balanced" nowadays. With only arround 10 exceptions every tower is at least 3 times as powerfull
You're being ridiculous, the towers have gotten much stronger over time there's just less super braindead autowin strats like Mauler Spam. Seriously man, we're only like 6 months removed from the Glaive Lord going from an absolute laughing stock to one of the best tier 5s in the entire game because they buffed it, and it's still really good atm.
Look what they did to my Geraldo...
and my geraldo. he's the only hero I've invested in (ignoring corvus cus of the hype around his release) and the only hero I ever use. Bring back the golden days...
I remember first ever purchasing Geraldo and immediately thinking, wow this guy is well worth the price, especially with how much he makes himself so convenient, then I noticed all the nerfs and and got far too overwhelmed with all of what he does
Maybe they got tired of you pronouncing his name wrong 😂
@BlindintheDark isn't it je-rul-doh as opposed to je-ral-do?
inflation is getting out of hand in the BTD verse( because of the excessive farming for bosses). Geraldo is just trying to make a living with all of this inflation going on
I hate Geraldo inflation 😞
did you know that inflation is huge in the bloons franchise, to learn more search up btd6 inflation in google!
Highly doubt NK is done with the nerf hammer on Geraldo, they'll find a way to nerf him & his items more.
NK needs to see the current CHIMPS tier list. Geraldo is below OBYN. Just...wow.
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I remember that I would usually use him over Ben in normal games pretty much (I always use him in Boss Events if available) and he was like my #1 go to hero pretty much every time.
I used him to beat pretty much most of the beginner, some intermediate and few advanced maps on CHIMPS (in my own way ofc), but yeah, these nerfs are _really_ getting out of hand for this guy here… 🙁
@@MasterKnightDH it's chimps expert map, if you look at the heroes tierlist for casual chimps, he is still S tier, plus, he is still on the same tier as Sauda, or even higher
@@MasterKnightDH I feel like that shouldn't be that surprising tbh, considering all geraldo's cash boosting utility is missing in chimps, whereas ninja and druid spam are some of the most effective chimps strats, which obyn combos well with
I think pretty much all the nerfs have been necessary, in it's release Geraldo was the most brain dead win button I have ever seen, and nowadays it's still stupidly strong. As I said once we all know how obsessed is ISAB with saving every last dollar and he uses Geraldo in almost EVERY video and does not have a problem overspending a few items (he literally said It once).
If that does not show how strong it's still Geraldo nothing will.
Gotta love a hero that rewards smart usage of limited items in exchange for the main tower being weak getting nerfed making anyone using him casually just punished with a weaker option then just plopping down a sauda or adora.
I do not understand why they made Geraldo utility more high maintenance and less reliable than corpus and his spells, back to the nourishment mines I go
Its his versatility. He can handle any situation. There isn't anything he doesn't do. You can't even get tier 100 paragons without him. He makes money better than Benjamin. Ultimately I would rather see some items disappear from his store than the price increases. I don't see the nerfs stopping unless they can either delete jar of pickles or sharpening stone. He can keep one, the other has to go.
A few updates back Geraldo fought back with one of the most notorious bugs in the game, the Rejuv potion completely restocking the shop (including the spent rejuv potion instantly restocking), which meant for a few days it had an unprecedented buff.
All these nerfs later, he still trivialises the game
The camo potion nerf (I think it was in the Mermonkey update) was what REALLY killed Geraldo for me. Having it only last 5 rounds instead of 10 is annoying enough on its own; That effectively doubles the amount of cash that you have to spend on camo potions, as well as making an already high maintenance hero *even more* prone to human error because you have to remember to reapply the effect every 5 rounds, which has always been one of his biggest balancing factors. I still haven't gotten used to this change, and it's caused me to lose many Chimps games since it happened. 5 rounds might sound like a fairly long time still, but it goes by quick. Those camo rounds really do sneak up on you if you aren't 100% focused and paying attention all the time.
The real kicker though is the fact that camo potion no longer has 100% uptime on a single tower. They decreased the duration of the potion, but they forgot to make it replenish faster in the shop to compensate for that change. So as it stands currently, if you're using camo potions efficiently, as well as using stack of nails to pop the round 24 camo instead of wasting a full potion on it, you will end up running out of camo potion uptime on round 59. *ROUND 59.* This hero has an entire item in his shop dedicated to camo detection, and it's now only a temporary solution that isn't even good enough to let you beat medium mode.
I've always held that no matter what else on his kit got nerfed, Geraldo would still be worth using for the consistently useful game-to-game utility that full uptime camo potions provided, but in my opinion, that one change is the single most devastating nerf he's ever received. The hero that, in Ninja Kiwi's own words, is SUPPOSED to be a "top level hero" that is "literally designed to be so as the most rewarding for your player knowledge and reaction to moment to moment gameplay" slid out of S tier for the first time *ever* in that update, and has since then only remained "slightly above average I guess" in the eyes of most players. Additionally, they keep senselessly nerfing every other item in his kit with each passing update, and now it's sort of reached to the point where you gotta ask yourself, is it even worth all the effort it takes to use Geraldo anymore?
Justice for my man Geraldo. He didn't deserve all this.
Same, rarely used him since the camo pot nerf, and the item price nerfs all but killed off my desire of using him ever again
you forgot the closing parenthesis D:
Oh no
I like Geraldo, but it does get boring and tedius to play and watch him after a while.
I wish they’d stop with the geraldo nerfs tbh, he’s not even that crazy anymore
Fr now he's only good for blackborders
He's still very top tier, just because he can do things no other heroes can.
He's strong in early and doesnt fall off in late game, he can even farm money and help to get paragons.
@@wayne8691... And that's why he's in the bottom half of the heroes tier list?
@RoundShades the list only applies to chimps but yea he's def outclassed. except for blackborders bc you do not want any money left so you can just keep spamming his items
@@wayne8691In normal play you can just farm to pay for his items. Every price nerf in chimps and bosses is a way bigger deal though. He shouldn’t be nerfed further imo
Damn inflations even hitting btd6
Just think it only gets worse from here potentially
I’d love to actually have a chance to get a degree 100 paragon in boss events
I think I remember getting a degree 99 boat paragon at one point during a past boss event. That was huge letdown.
Its insane how good Geraldo manages to still be despite how heavily he's been nerfed
650% HP Bloonarius tomorrow 🔥
now i'm gonna wait for a slight corvus nerf, since if you know how to play him, he's insane, plus, i think the reward for playing him well is too much, so a slight nerf is needed instead of an overkill
I have never used Geraldo other than his quest. Guess I won’t start now.
I feel bad for geraldo enjoyers. He went from spicing up the gameplay with more options to needing to lock in on what you want to do. His reliability went from great to shameful.
NK's decision to keep nerfing Geraldo has kinda nerfed my desire to keep playing this game, and it makes me really sad. I feel like Geraldo occupied a similar space as Corvus where, yes, he is very powerful, but you really need to know what you're doing with him to tap into that power.
Personally I just think they should make him level slower and revert a lot of the nerfs(ESPECIALLY the bunny nerf)
Man wtf. Inflations affecting my monkey game too 💀💀💀
Discount village at: 3:24
Good combination with t3 caped supermonkeys. Save like 2550 from one avatar alone, at the cost of 1100 for discounts. The second discount saves 850 per sm, at the cost for 1100, which still helps because now you get both village paths and it still paid for itself with the second sm
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That price is kinda high
I believe you spent ~46.9k on geraldo items on that run
since when is it gerrys fire i was thinking all this time is was jerrys
Beats chimps with 35k to spare on a harder intermediate map with a strategy that was more for fun than to actually try. Yeah Geraldo is doing just fine
GERALDO NERFS WILL NEVER STOP
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I mean he's still the best hero in the game so not sure what the issue is.
Inflation is crazy
Inflation in BTD6 is real
Was he just nerfed in the last patch as well?
bunny paragon?!?!
Well too many ppl use it as boss ranked of course nid a nerf.
Whats with the rat?
Glue Rat
Yeah
Yep I think its ridiculous!
Along with the Ben changes, they hardly give us the option anymore between either of them in boss events!
Give geraldo his old dmg buff back if they wanna change things, I'm talking about his normal magic atk.
Yeah Geraldo is still S tier so these nerfs are needed. We need more hero diversity. Kinda bored of seeing people use Geraldo.
Way nerfed are underrated
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Ngl geroldo is sorta useless rn
Nerf Geraldo!
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Geraldo should be deleted completely. Everyone always uses him for the craziest run, especially boss runs
I would say it's launch state is one of the things that has hurt most the game
As a fan of Geraldo, i think the NFT and the paragon totem has got to go. These 2 options far and away outshine the rest of his kit which is sad because these 2 items feel the least connected to his core design of having a wide range of buffs/utility. The NFT lets Geraldo create way too much money advantage that even Benjamin cant really compete with ON TOP OF having fertilizer which i think is all the money gen he needs and feels much more in-character. Paragon totems mean you NEED Geraldo to hit degree 100 solo which imo is just terrible game design. Seriously, why is this locked behind A SINGLE HERO? I believe paragon totems should be reworked into something that opens up in freeplay or like t3 of a boss. I think if they took them out then they could better justify him being the more buff-oriented hero, but as it stands he just does everything since hero dps basically doesn't matter in bosses/lategame. This is kind of an overarching problem i have with most heroes feeling like dead weight past round 80 while Geraldo is unquestionably the best 1-40 hero and probably top 3 in freeplay behind Ezili and maybe Adora. There's a reason he's banned in like half the boss events.
Ben makes more money than Geraldo, he's just used for ranked runs for the utility of other items
As an avid Geraldo hater. Good
Why are you guys surprised? NK have always been devoted with their nerfs. They often go so far as to nerf kill towers and target the towers most popular.
Think about it, they always target the more popular towers, not necessarily the strongest. And when are they going to make TSG and VTSG worth it again? They have been completely ignored since the first paragon made it's appearance.
The dart paragon is literally stronger than the VTSG and it costs less than a tenth of the cost of the paragon.
Super monkey doesn't have a paragon yet
The other way arround, the game has been powercreeped way to the point were 1.0 comanche would be "balanced" nowadays. With only arround 10 exceptions every tower is at least 3 times as powerfull
You're being ridiculous, the towers have gotten much stronger over time there's just less super braindead autowin strats like Mauler Spam. Seriously man, we're only like 6 months removed from the Glaive Lord going from an absolute laughing stock to one of the best tier 5s in the entire game because they buffed it, and it's still really good atm.
Why is ninja kiwi always mean to my favorite hero:(
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