I'm picturing the typical ports most cruise ships stop at and (even if they had the power infrastructure)... what is producing that power? I'm pretty sure places like the Caribbean, Mediterranean, Hawaii, etc. don't have massive hydro dams or nuclear power plants so... at best, they'll have to put a massive oil/gas/coal power plant in those nice ports just to charge on of these things. Even if you did this... 60MW would be enough to power 7,000 homes and it would need a power plant to come online just to recharge a ship during the day, maybe 2-3 ships a week, and then power itself down? And if you have two ships in port? And those power plants are just shut down at night, four days a week, and when cruise season is over? Finally, what is the transmission and storage loss vs. just burning that fuel inside the engines of a ship. At ship sizes, those would be rather efficient.
There's also the reality that ports will try to price gouge when selling electricity to ships. I was on a ship recently which was quoted several thousand dollars per ton to offload post-cruise garbage. The captain declined and disposed of it at the next port where charges were far less. If you don't have the range to get to the next port, you will be extorted over charging costs.
It was said that it will recharge from some kind of power bank, which presumably gets charged while the ship is out cruising (kind of like ear buds in their carry case). So really it's going to be short range cruises in the fjords around Finland and back to its own port with the charger. Not likely to go to Australia. Also 164 feet, aint a big ship. As for the solar sails in the high northern latitudes, yeah that's probably not going to help much, maybe a bit more than my other comment about regenerative braking. But the sail's own air resistance in calm situations where they don't help (as in the literal meaning of sailing -on a sail boat) might outweigh any benefit of solar power in a fjord where there's rarely any direct sunlight.
A cibertruck just exploded and burn...not the battery bank. Many many (more and more) boats have battery banks, bigger and bigger ones...dont see them exploding.
I was an over-the-road truck driver for 30+ years and I'm dying to see all the new nuclear power plants that would have to be built in the US to power millions of trucks. How will that work when a loaded truck is pulling a 6% grade up a mountain highway like Donner Pass between NV and CA? Plus the weight of the huge battery will cut back on the truck's weight limit, which means it'll carry less cargo, which means more trucks.
18-Wheeler trucks will never be battery electric. I think maybe compressed natural gas. It is about 35 or 40% cleaner than Diesel engine. And without penalty you can add 8% hydrogen from clean sources, what makes it about 43% cleaner than Diesel. One other benefit of CNG is a cleaner engine stay cleaner.
If human induced climate change is such a major issue, they should shut down the entire pointless cruise ship industry. People who are concerned about saving the planet should just stay at home and watch TV. They can use their EV's to run to town to buy their groceries, or order on-line.
I can actually see the government paying the cruise lines to not operate every year, that would be some great government pork, pay people to not work.😂💯🤡🚤
Absolutely This madness is everywhere. For example F1 are constantly bleating on about using hybrid cars to save a few Kg of fuel while at the same time flying thousands of tonnes of equipment and staff around the world and causing hundreds of thousands of people to travel to the races. They even wait all day in the sun until it gets dark so that they can use millions of watts of flood lights. They are so out of touch with reality but idiots still think the hybrids are a good idea.
Or better yet; all members of the political class and their hang around should start making zoom calls instead of flying around the world to spend our tax money on “international agreements” that ruins our lives.
Around a quarter of the electric ferries in Europe have caught fire since being built. I don't fancy signing up for a towering inferno at sea that I can't escape from.
Attention all passengers, we are now undergoing solar charging, please refrain from using any electricity not already stored in batteries for the next 10 hours.
I use solar for a tiny window air conditioner as a last resort after hurricanes. The logistics/problems/dangers/shortcomings of solar charging a 70 pound lithium battery would take me all day to even begin to partially attempt to explain. You learn the truth once you build a small system. I usually just charge it up with regular AC power before bad weather. The solar charging damages the battery and makes me very nervous so I only use it if absolutely necessary.
@@baneverything5580you need to use a BMS to charge the battery form solar, to make it all safe and simple. But you're better off just getting a bigger battery, and keeping it full via AC power, that will power your AC longer if the grid drops out.
There is no such thing as zero emissions when you are charging a 60 Megawatt battery. The sheer stupidity and utter nonsense with these wasteful projects is breathtaking 🙄
Rather be on a nuclear ship as water is used to create steam and worst scenario just drop the nuclear generator and drift away safely. It is already successful on subs.
What would be the worst case scenario? Nuclear power plants arent bombs, they wont explode into the hellfire mushroom we see on movies and such. The fact so many people dont understand that is part of the unreasonable fearmongering. Also if they wanted it to be trully safe they would use thorium based plants.
In the old days they used to say that fire on ship was the worst thing to happen and was to be avoided at all costs. We seem to be led by people who know nothing.
Nope the steel nails, bolts, cannons were made with coke and coal. The pitch was heated with coal and the copper underhull sheathing was mined and then heated and manufactured using coal. The galley cooker was coal powered. If CO2 was actually bad and not just plant food. It would be terrible.
They always focus on the energy/emissions used/produced when the vehicle is in use. However, they conveniently ignore the energy/emissions used/produced in the production of all the products that will ‘save us’ (from a problem that doesn’t exist).
Not to worry, the scam is falling apart, but how many made billions out of it. Those people are already working on the next scam that many ignorant will fall for.
I have lived in northern Yukon for work, not by choice. The 24 hours of sun in summer and 24 hours darkness, lots of people get the wrong idea what its like. In winter you don't notice, because the only time you go outside is to get to your truck. In summer the sun is not directly above you, its not like summer. Its more like 24 hour sunrise. It very hard to drive, even wearing shades.
Perhaps they could also equip each cabin with a pedal-powered generator that guests would be required to use at least 4 hours a day to contribute to power generation. It could be considered a get fit cruise. I would think that all of these people that are so concerned about saving the earth would have no problem with it.
Could even get discounted on-board purchases and cost of meals etc, the more energy you make by pedalling, or save by not using, the cheaper stuff is, all based on data produced by an electric meter installed in each cabin.
He’s an absolute muppet. Norway is so far ahead of the curve when it comes to electrifying transport it’s not funny. Almost all new cars are electric, trucks are rapidly electrifying, all new build car and passenger ferries are electric. BEV trucks may not work at the moment in the Aussie outback but for city driving they make sense. A lot of the mining trucks are going electric, most underground mining vehicle are electric, I could see a lot of the road trains which operate fixed routes on private roads also going electric, the routes aren’t hundred of kms long. There are already trials in Australia where the power units in trailers are being replaced by battery electric drives. The engine in the tractor operates as a generator for the battery power trailers.
The fact that cruise ships emit a lot of CO2 is about the only GOOD thing I've ever heard about cruising. Mostly I read about food poisonings or viral outbreaks, people falling overboard, or having a coronary from all the rich food---where eating is all there is to do. As a friend of mine who worked aboard ships all over the world told me: "The difference between a jail and a boat is, you can't drown in jail."
Not my future either! Let's start again (ish) with bringing back deals like 5 Bazooka wrappers for a pair of x-ray glasses😊 and cars that looked great and drove well. x
Yep. Nobody had to force people to abandon horses and adopt cars. The swing from ICE to EVs needs to be natural, and driven by electric vehicles becoming sufficiently compelling.
Three months ago , there was a video about the Missunde 3 electric ferry in Europe, it was basically useless. Search "did you hear the one about the electric ferry?"
But they can't do that until they have had all the subsidies to line their pockets. Only then can they jet off to their new rich lives leaving chaos behind 😞.
This guy is Just another net zero nay sayer who offers no solutions to a global climate crisis Use of Battery technology in transportation like most things is far from Perfect but don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good I suppose the underlying narrative of This TH-cam post is Keep using fossil fuels Just burn it all until its All gone! and the human race with it! Its so depressing!!
I was a Sailor. Nothing terrifies us more than a fire on board. I can't imagine the inferno if a battery fire started on one of these ships. The thing of nightmares!
Don't worry about the huge waves and storm we are in passengers. We'll float around with no power for a while, and who knows where we'll end up. Hope your enjoying your cruise.
Anyone who's worked on a boat/ship will know first hand how corrosive the seas can be. To dump a battery driven ship onto the seas, with all of its vulnerable control electronics inside is insanity.
Someone should tell these people about nuclear power.. we actually have boats today which are electric and use nuclear power. They don't melt down, and their crews don't glow in the dark.. so like... maybe we could grow up as a species and use the near infinite energy source that everyone's afraid of?
It was never about saving earth or let alone being energy efficient. The old guard (global oil companies) are finding a new guard to make money. The electric, solar and wind energy industry is the perfect mix of enabling maximum control on their consumer, while still being inefficient enough that it requires frequent expenses on maintainence and replacement. Nuclear energy is far too efficient and cost-saving. A private hospital and insurance can't earn money if all their potential customers are always healthy. The same way EV and renewable energy companies can't earn money if everyone buys their stuff once. Their stuff will always need to be replaced to ensure the money always flows.
@@codenamenazareth2892 except... we have to refine tonnes of uranium to obtain just a small amount of the fissile material that we use, we barely utilise a 100th of the energy liberated by a nuclear reaction... then toss 4/5ths of that away boiling water to make steam to only recondense it to water... then wind up with this stuff, albeit not much of it, but its there... that we bury in a tomb somewhere and try not to think about it again... until we figure out how to convert that nuclear energy directly to electricity using the ore we mine without refining it? its far from efficient.
Years ago I was a shareholder in a company called Walker Wingsail which was developing this kind of technology in the 80's. This seems to be attempting to build on what was a plausible fuel saving project before the lunacy of Net Zero. Not the best investment I ever made.
I swear to god I saw the thumbnail and I burst into laughter before even reading the title or opening the video. Dumbest thing ever, the next titanic, won’t even leave the dry dock
Next up: The battery-powered ship will tow a barge with several large diesel generators on board and with massive extension cords running back to said ship in order to recharge the batteries. The claim will be made that the ship produces zero emissions.
I doubt you would see the more nitty-gritty details anywhere. But I would bet that the ship would also have a diesel generator on it for emergency power generation.
There's already a failed electric Swedish ferry. Don't people learn from this? At 160ft long, this cruise ship is a tiddler. I suspect some government (i.e. taxpayer) grants are prompting this nonsense.
They dont use lithium batteries in ships , but other sodium ion for storage of excess electricty generated by disel generator . IT would make more sense to use fuell cells instead of diesel generators and amonia or methanol as fuel ( for start its cheaper than oil , and it gives more energy for money becouse there is no combustion and fuell cells are lighter .)
Some things are just not scalable. I did a calculation for refrigerating an electric van project for a company. Worked out after fitting extra batteries to even give the van a chance. Best we could calculate was a range of 40 miles with a payload of 100Kg.. increase the batteries to increase the mileage ,but lower the payload. And yet after all of the white board calculations and cross checking. The manager still decided to build it. I took a picture of the calculations ,just for future comebacks. Some people really believe they can bend physics.
Firstly, it is a good thing that the maritime environment is being discussed. As it accounts for several TIMES more fossil fuel usage, CO2 creation etc, than land based transport. It should have been addressed well before we started on this crazy EV push but, you know, out of sight, out of mind. However, these smack of exactly what has happened in the BEV space. Companies promising unicorns, seeking multi-billion dollar Govt investment, and then they will quietly go bankrupt while the founding directors fly off to their new island paradises in their new private jets, with nothing but empty buildings and workers being owed months of unpaid wages left behind.
Since when CO2 is a pollutant? If more CO2 is generated, doesn't that grow vegetation, which in turn will filter that CO2 and return more oxygen? A MASSIVE SCAM!!!
Can you imagine thermal runaway on that thing? While you’re on the sea with nowhere to go. If you do get into a lifeboat, make sure you’re not consumed by the cloud of toxic fumes that’ll be spewing everywhere. This looks like a disaster waiting to happen. Surely the greenest thing to do with shipping is to go back to actual sails??
An obvious solution to this EV madness is to legally enforce the mining operations to be banned from using fossil fuel powered machinery but to use only EV vehicles and Electric earth moving equipment. That’ll kill off this completely barking and stupid EV nonsense at a stroke.
I’d rather travel in a normal diesel cruise ship it’s far safer than EV Cruise Ship which is far too dangerous. Like EV passenger planes no thank you. Well said MGUY.
So what if they hit a hurricane and a hull breach occur and saltwater reaches the batteries and a thermal runaway start?? The only real firefighing equipment they have on these ferrys is using seawater and to put out a battery fire with saltwater... well, you get the point. And how do they get this approved? I know the answer to that, the ship has a big "green" stamp on it so then authorities will approve any thing no matter how deadly it is🤣🤣🤣
I like how the power drops off all of a sudden with the dyson or my ozito drill. Bit different when you are navigating rough seas or trying to remain airborne.
Let them launch it, let those who want to sail on it, You get what you pay for..
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Ive had Boats for 35 years , The worst day I ever had Boating was from a Flat Battery ! You cant get out and walk in a Boat and when it's Night time it's Scary as FK no matter How Hard you think you are !
Jacques Cousteau invented something he called the "Turbo Sail" (TS) in 1980. Based on the photos in this video, I'm guessing this is the same technology. Surprisingly, it actually works. Now, let's define the word, "works." Per sail, the TS cannot generate the same lateral lift (force) as traditional sails. They therefore move the vessel much more slowly. As with traditional sails, they cannot move the vessel into the headwind; a tack is required. Unless, that is, you wish to add diesel power to draw air down the leeward side, increasing lift and therefore being able to sail into the wind. But very slowly. Jacques, himself, admitted that propellers/impellers were required as auxiliary power, especially in turbulent winds or if you're trying to keep to a shipping schedule. Work on his TS has continued on-and-off since then, but you'll notice ships are N-O-T using this technology, not even recreational ships. So this new "We're reducing our C footprint with new technology" claim is just unicorns for virtue signaling. It simply means: (1) It isn't new and (2) it comes at a cost of delays and direct danger to the crew and passengers if the ship is caught at sea in even a tropical depression. I sense a massive lawsuit coming when the TSs are bent even a little in a storm, and the ship hasn't the power to get itself to safe harbor.
I would never travel on a ship with 100s of thousands of explosive lithium batteries... if that thing has thermal runaway, it's probably going to vaporize the ocean to space.
I’ve seen rotating sails similar to this in magazine articles. The wind rotates the sails turns a generator to create electricity. I don’t think they were intended to propel on its own, but as a supplement. This was long before climate change was a thing. But they never took off.
I wonder how all the EV fire trucks are working out in California's horrendous wild fires . They also diverted the water to save the smelt, which they ended up killing anyways. Way To Go California!
For cargo transport ships, the idea of metal, computer-controlled sails as an adjunct to a normal diesel powerplant makes particular sense from an economic standpoint: Boats use a RIDICULOUS amount of fuel per mile.
Emagine if the ev cruise ships batteries went into thermal runaway Youd have alot of "crispy" human beings And a fire You could be able to see it from the international space station .... Emagine the environmental impacts and disaster mess that would make
These ideas should be encouraged! Let the EVangilist companies pour money into these ideas until they collapse financially. Some people need to learn the hard way about stupid ideas.
Sort of almost as pointless as Cruise Ships/Cruises as well imo. Float around the place with heaps of other people, getting ripped off with prices, eating/drinking too much and seeing exactly the same places that everyone else does. Fair chance you will catch something nasty while you're at it. Yippee.
I think he is originally from the Dutch country of the Netherlands. Therefore, he is not a Born citizen, additionally the Netherlands have a Prime Minister, not a President.
just waiting for that moment where one these companies have an 'original' idea and starts bragging that they will put wind turbines onto a boat that will allow it to sail into the wind
Electric vehicles are NOT and will NEVER be 'Net Zero'. And who wants to be stuck in the middle of an ocean on a floating EV battery? Absolute Madness and ignorance.
If politicians believe they can control the weather or what sort of transport we use, they aren't suffering from insanity, they are quite enjoying it! They need to be voted out.
If you think the car carrying ships went up in smoke due to salt water fog or wave intrusion, wait until the massive ship battery goes into runaway. Call those ships Barbie class cruisers
When it pulls into port in any country, it will recharge and leave said country in blackout.
I'm picturing the typical ports most cruise ships stop at and (even if they had the power infrastructure)... what is producing that power? I'm pretty sure places like the Caribbean, Mediterranean, Hawaii, etc. don't have massive hydro dams or nuclear power plants so... at best, they'll have to put a massive oil/gas/coal power plant in those nice ports just to charge on of these things. Even if you did this... 60MW would be enough to power 7,000 homes and it would need a power plant to come online just to recharge a ship during the day, maybe 2-3 ships a week, and then power itself down? And if you have two ships in port? And those power plants are just shut down at night, four days a week, and when cruise season is over? Finally, what is the transmission and storage loss vs. just burning that fuel inside the engines of a ship. At ship sizes, those would be rather efficient.
Don't stop in to Australia. The electricity is green so no electricity is available!
There's also the reality that ports will try to price gouge when selling electricity to ships. I was on a ship recently which was quoted several thousand dollars per ton to offload post-cruise garbage. The captain declined and disposed of it at the next port where charges were far less. If you don't have the range to get to the next port, you will be extorted over charging costs.
It was said that it will recharge from some kind of power bank, which presumably gets charged while the ship is out cruising (kind of like ear buds in their carry case). So really it's going to be short range cruises in the fjords around Finland and back to its own port with the charger. Not likely to go to Australia. Also 164 feet, aint a big ship.
As for the solar sails in the high northern latitudes, yeah that's probably not going to help much, maybe a bit more than my other comment about regenerative braking. But the sail's own air resistance in calm situations where they don't help (as in the literal meaning of sailing -on a sail boat) might outweigh any benefit of solar power in a fjord where there's rarely any direct sunlight.
@@BW022 A number of diesel powered generators
All it takes is one fire and the whole ship turns into the modern day viking funeral.
Eazy cleanup!
That you can see from space
The Electric Viking might like that.
A cibertruck just exploded and burn...not the battery bank. Many many (more and more) boats have battery banks, bigger and bigger ones...dont see them exploding.
And nothing of value will be lost, well except the material parts.
...salt water and EV....
I'm not getting on that thing.😂
Hindenburg on the water.
That's worse than an E ticket ride at Disney during a hurricane.
You wake up one day and the buffet is just the several hundred that got fried by corded cables the night before.
USN has been operating EV carriers and submarines for decades now.
@@svr5423 No, they're not EV's. They're nuclear powered.
I was an over-the-road truck driver for 30+ years and I'm dying to see all the new nuclear power plants that would have to be built in the US to power millions of trucks. How will that work when a loaded truck is pulling a 6% grade up a mountain highway like Donner Pass between NV and CA? Plus the weight of the huge battery will cut back on the truck's weight limit, which means it'll carry less cargo, which means more trucks.
18-Wheeler trucks will never be battery electric. I think maybe compressed natural gas. It is about 35 or 40% cleaner than Diesel engine. And without penalty you can add 8% hydrogen from clean sources, what makes it about 43% cleaner than Diesel. One other benefit of CNG is a cleaner engine stay cleaner.
@@adriaanvantulpenbaard1740my generator's oil was always clean after I switched it over to LP.
They actually go down the road with a full trailer, believe or not, but it must be potato chips. 😂
In Australia we have road trains, 32 wheels. Batteries will never pull these for 1,000 kms.
@@melissasmess2773 Toilet paper is probably too heavy? 😄
The ship is a giant bomb
Fill it with EVs😅
That's exactly what I thought when the stupid silly idea was read out! Id sooner swim than get on that hypothetical abortion!
Remember the 'Ship' in the bond movie with Jonathan Price?
Def only carry sheep .
Bomb Voyage!
2030..........the year we all go back to the dark ages.........LITERALLY.
The viking funeral cruise
I thought the same ... EV batteries ... saltwater... nothing bury this thing under since on the sea ... what could possibly go wrong 🤣🤣🤣
One way ticket to Valhalla please !!
Lol you hit the nail on the head.
Seems almost all ppl with a degree have these stupid idea,s.
No common.sens what so ever.
Valhalla only accepts the brave not the idiotic
@@matthewb2052 I would argue brave/idiotic is interchangeable.
If human induced climate change is such a major issue, they should shut down the entire pointless cruise ship industry. People who are concerned about saving the planet should just stay at home and watch TV. They can use their EV's to run to town to buy their groceries, or order on-line.
I can actually see the government paying the cruise lines to not operate every year, that would be some great government pork, pay people to not work.😂💯🤡🚤
Absolutely
This madness is everywhere. For example F1 are constantly bleating on about using hybrid cars to save a few Kg of fuel while at the same time flying thousands of tonnes of equipment and staff around the world and causing hundreds of thousands of people to travel to the races.
They even wait all day in the sun until it gets dark so that they can use millions of watts of flood lights.
They are so out of touch with reality but idiots still think the hybrids are a good idea.
@@melissasmess2773it’s where we’re heading.
Or better yet; all members of the political class and their hang around should start making zoom calls instead of flying around the world to spend our tax money on “international agreements” that ruins our lives.
@@jesperFrost sure. And they shall stop breathing out co2 asap.
A floating firework....
With free solar panels included!🤣
I think they’ve thought: “If we can’t stop people from dumping batteries into the ocean, we must join them!”🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Around a quarter of the electric ferries in Europe have caught fire since being built. I don't fancy signing up for a towering inferno at sea that I can't escape from.
Attention all passengers, we are now undergoing solar charging, please refrain from using any electricity not already stored in batteries for the next 10 hours.
I use solar for a tiny window air conditioner as a last resort after hurricanes. The logistics/problems/dangers/shortcomings of solar charging a 70 pound lithium battery would take me all day to even begin to partially attempt to explain. You learn the truth once you build a small system. I usually just charge it up with regular AC power before bad weather. The solar charging damages the battery and makes me very nervous so I only use it if absolutely necessary.
You mean the next 24 hours
@@waynehewett4017 no 48
passengers? call out to the whole port town to be without power for the next 12 hours
@@baneverything5580you need to use a BMS to charge the battery form solar, to make it all safe and simple.
But you're better off just getting a bigger battery, and keeping it full via AC power, that will power your AC longer if the grid drops out.
There is no such thing as zero emissions when you are charging a 60 Megawatt battery. The sheer stupidity and utter nonsense with these wasteful projects is breathtaking 🙄
There will be people who will take vacations on these. The same people that would freak out to go on a nuclear cruise ship.
Rather be on a nuclear ship as water is used to create steam and worst scenario just drop the nuclear generator and drift away safely. It is already successful on subs.
The same people who still wear stinky gag rags while driving alone in their masturbating chariots, aka Teslas.
And air craft carriers and ice breakers
We already have green ships. They call them sailboats. No battery needed.
What would be the worst case scenario? Nuclear power plants arent bombs, they wont explode into the hellfire mushroom we see on movies and such. The fact so many people dont understand that is part of the unreasonable fearmongering. Also if they wanted it to be trully safe they would use thorium based plants.
In the old days they used to say that fire on ship was the worst thing to happen and was to be avoided at all costs.
We seem to be led by people who know nothing.
Perhaps they should check out how captain cooks ship was put together I believe that it was a net zero sailing vessel
Actually you are right. It didn't use any energy.
We need to convert all ships to sailing.
Nope the steel nails, bolts, cannons were made with coke and coal. The pitch was heated with coal and the copper underhull sheathing was mined and then heated and manufactured using coal. The galley cooker was coal powered. If CO2 was actually bad and not just plant food. It would be terrible.
@@clubbtimothy8015 Big CO2 fan over here, Tim.
@@clubbtimothy8015 I did not know any of that. 😉
Much better sailing experience.
The only dumber idea than this, is electric military equipment, like tanks and personnel carriers. "stop the war, we need to recharge".
Stop stop I'm barleys and I've got my fingers crossed. 😂😂😂😂
Military planning gets easier. Your target list shrinks to the power sources.
We are the 2969th combat recharging company the Fighting cable snatchers….Voltum Luminium
@@Core-vu6mc Power source: Diesel generator. 😂
Dont be on isolated ship with battery fire
@@nickmalone3143 or in a water full of icebergs.🙂
Don't worry, plenty of lithium powered lifeboats 🤗
@@nickmalone3143 so you double your chances of not surviving.🙂
@@CopperCooper420but they're already FULL OF MIGRANTS
If it starts sinking, will the passengers get free fried fish?
They always focus on the energy/emissions used/produced when the vehicle is in use. However, they conveniently ignore the energy/emissions used/produced in the production of all the products that will ‘save us’ (from a problem that doesn’t exist).
Not to worry, the scam is falling apart, but how many made billions out of it. Those people are already working on the next scam that many ignorant will fall for.
Plus the lack of recycling due to huge costs.
Plus that CO2 is not a pollutant etc.
I have lived in northern Yukon for work, not by choice. The 24 hours of sun in summer and 24 hours darkness, lots of people get the wrong idea what its like. In winter you don't notice, because the only time you go outside is to get to your truck. In summer the sun is not directly above you, its not like summer. Its more like 24 hour sunrise. It very hard to drive, even wearing shades.
Perhaps they could also equip each cabin with a pedal-powered generator that guests would be required to use at least 4 hours a day to contribute to power generation. It could be considered a get fit cruise. I would think that all of these people that are so concerned about saving the earth would have no problem with it.
Too bad Fred Flinstones isn't here to show us how to slam the brakes on those, so we can also create Regen power.
But than you need more food.
they might start making triremes again
Could even get discounted on-board purchases and cost of meals etc, the more energy you make by pedalling, or save by not using, the cheaper stuff is, all based on data produced by an electric meter installed in each cabin.
Awe, yes, and some could row oars like the the old slave ships had.
Nicely done. Thanks for being a ray of truth in an increasingly stupid world.
He’s an absolute muppet. Norway is so far ahead of the curve when it comes to electrifying transport it’s not funny. Almost all new cars are electric, trucks are rapidly electrifying, all new build car and passenger ferries are electric.
BEV trucks may not work at the moment in the Aussie outback but for city driving they make sense. A lot of the mining trucks are going electric, most underground mining vehicle are electric, I could see a lot of the road trains which operate fixed routes on private roads also going electric, the routes aren’t hundred of kms long. There are already trials in Australia where the power units in trailers are being replaced by battery electric drives. The engine in the tractor operates as a generator for the battery power trailers.
Batteries and electric motors and generators... so easy to repair at the roadside.
@@MasterChief37 The whole thing is nonsense. A stupid solution to a non-problem only viable through mandates and subsidies.
The fact that cruise ships emit a lot of CO2 is about the only GOOD thing I've ever heard about cruising. Mostly I read about food poisonings or viral outbreaks, people falling overboard, or having a coronary from all the rich food---where eating is all there is to do.
As a friend of mine who worked aboard ships all over the world told me: "The difference between a jail and a boat is, you can't drown in jail."
That's CO MO NOXI DE not D EYE OX IDE
This is not the future I was promised by the comic books I read as a child.
Or the Jetsons, or even whe the Great Gazoo sent the Flinstones and Rubbles to the future.
Not my future either! Let's start again (ish) with bringing back deals like 5 Bazooka wrappers for a pair of x-ray glasses😊 and cars that looked great and drove well. x
Yep. Nobody had to force people to abandon horses and adopt cars. The swing from ICE to EVs needs to be natural, and driven by electric vehicles becoming sufficiently compelling.
Three months ago , there was a video about the Missunde 3 electric ferry in Europe, it was basically useless. Search "did you hear the one about the electric ferry?"
It could go fast enough to beat the river's current, correct?
the Scots have the Glen Sannox (!)
I did. It never worked. Had to go back to the old ferry.
Is that the one that they sold the old diesel one for scrap value and then had to buy it back a while later for an exorbitant amount? 😂
They should just cut out the middle man and just file bankruptcy now
But they can't do that until they have had all the subsidies to line their pockets. Only then can they jet off to their new rich lives leaving chaos behind 😞.
Simon, I'm surprised that you don't have a million subscribers. You are worldwide in viewership.
He should be, his public service to truthfulness is exemplary. BRAVO Simon
This guy is Just another net zero nay sayer who offers no solutions to a global
climate crisis Use of
Battery technology in transportation like most things is far from
Perfect but don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good
I suppose the underlying narrative of
This TH-cam post is
Keep using fossil fuels
Just burn it all until its
All gone! and the human race with it!
Its so depressing!!
It’s tough to get more viewers when promote facts instead of green propaganda.
Floating thermal runaway coffin presumably no iceberg needed
Titanic turd of 2025 has got a certain ring to it ...
The perfect bastion of stupidity to rest upon the monument of ignorance that is upheld by the butresses of the profoundly slow minded.
Cruises in general then?
Well said sir
You're very loquacious, do re tards have a difficult time understanding you? 😂
I was a Sailor. Nothing terrifies us more than a fire on board. I can't imagine the inferno if a battery fire started on one of these ships. The thing of nightmares!
Amen! No place to run. Especially on a submarine.
Don't worry about the huge waves and storm we are in passengers. We'll float around with no power for a while, and who knows where we'll end up. Hope your enjoying your cruise.
Anyone who's worked on a boat/ship will know first hand how corrosive the seas can be. To dump a battery driven ship onto the seas, with all of its vulnerable control electronics inside is insanity.
and when thw ship STARTS sinking, KABOOM!
World's first fire at the bottom of the ocean.
This must be the cruise ship Titanic 2, you won't need an iceberg LOL.
Someone should tell these people about nuclear power.. we actually have boats today which are electric and use nuclear power. They don't melt down, and their crews don't glow in the dark.. so like... maybe we could grow up as a species and use the near infinite energy source that everyone's afraid of?
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It was never about saving earth or let alone being energy efficient. The old guard (global oil companies) are finding a new guard to make money. The electric, solar and wind energy industry is the perfect mix of enabling maximum control on their consumer, while still being inefficient enough that it requires frequent expenses on maintainence and replacement.
Nuclear energy is far too efficient and cost-saving. A private hospital and insurance can't earn money if all their potential customers are always healthy. The same way EV and renewable energy companies can't earn money if everyone buys their stuff once. Their stuff will always need to be replaced to ensure the money always flows.
@@codenamenazareth2892 except... we have to refine tonnes of uranium to obtain just a small amount of the fissile material that we use, we barely utilise a 100th of the energy liberated by a nuclear reaction... then toss 4/5ths of that away boiling water to make steam to only recondense it to water...
then wind up with this stuff, albeit not much of it, but its there... that we bury in a tomb somewhere and try not to think about it again...
until we figure out how to convert that nuclear energy directly to electricity using the ore we mine without refining it? its far from efficient.
Years ago I was a shareholder in a company called Walker Wingsail which was developing this kind of technology in the 80's. This seems to be attempting to build on what was a plausible fuel saving project before the lunacy of Net Zero. Not the best investment I ever made.
I swear to god I saw the thumbnail and I burst into laughter before even reading the title or opening the video. Dumbest thing ever, the next titanic, won’t even leave the dry dock
Next up: The battery-powered ship will tow a barge with several large diesel generators on board and with massive extension cords running back to said ship in order to recharge the batteries. The claim will be made that the ship produces zero emissions.
I doubt you would see the more nitty-gritty details anywhere. But I would bet that the ship would also have a diesel generator on it for emergency power generation.
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On the bright side, if the battery in an electric cruise ship undergoes thermal runaway, it will be easy to extinguish it by simply sinking the ship!
That`s a GREAT idea! Install the "Thermal Flush Lever..."
*True, but the toxic fumes it will leak into the ocean will be worse than an oil spill.*
Have you not seen the EV car on fire under water? Water might not necessarily put out thermo runaway.
The salt water would just make it worse, since it is electrically conductive.
The water would eventually put the fire out, but a ton of lithium meeting unlimited salt water WOW, what a light show that would be.
There's already a failed electric Swedish ferry. Don't people learn from this? At 160ft long, this cruise ship is a tiddler. I suspect some government (i.e. taxpayer) grants are prompting this nonsense.
Battery Fire
On a
ship
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Endless water to fight the fire😂
And the band played on.
They can run the thermal battery blowtorch through rocket engines to get to shore at record speed.
They dont use lithium batteries in ships , but other sodium ion for storage of excess electricty generated by disel generator . IT would make more sense to use fuell cells instead of diesel generators and amonia or methanol as fuel ( for start its cheaper than oil , and it gives more energy for money becouse there is no combustion and fuell cells are lighter .)
Everybody died......................
When looked at in all it's full glory, Net Zero appears to be highlighting the greatest shortage of our time, the shortage of common sense.
Will these cruise ships be subsidized? I guess they'll have to be.
That's how your launder hundreds of billions or trillions of tax payer dollars.
The EV was invented because a new way of laundering was wanted.
Yes. By the tax payers
Some things are just not scalable. I did a calculation for refrigerating an electric van project for a company. Worked out after fitting extra batteries to even give the van a chance. Best we could calculate was a range of 40 miles with a payload of 100Kg.. increase the batteries to increase the mileage ,but lower the payload. And yet after all of the white board calculations and cross checking. The manager still decided to build it. I took a picture of the calculations ,just for future comebacks. Some people really believe they can bend physics.
Imagine the inferno when. I mean when. It goes into thermal runaway.🔥🔥They had net zero ships in the 1800's
Hmnnn, have they never heard of simple sailing ships.?
Firstly, it is a good thing that the maritime environment is being discussed. As it accounts for several TIMES more fossil fuel usage, CO2 creation etc, than land based transport. It should have been addressed well before we started on this crazy EV push but, you know, out of sight, out of mind.
However, these smack of exactly what has happened in the BEV space. Companies promising unicorns, seeking multi-billion dollar Govt investment, and then they will quietly go bankrupt while the founding directors fly off to their new island paradises in their new private jets, with nothing but empty buildings and workers being owed months of unpaid wages left behind.
CO2 is good. It is the single most essential compound for ALL life.
It is .044% of the atmosphere.
I'd like to see more CO2.
@@TheRealDrJoey What part of the atmosphere? Earth's atmosphere is 190000 kms deep.
Since when CO2 is a pollutant? If more CO2 is generated, doesn't that grow vegetation, which in turn will filter that CO2 and return more oxygen? A MASSIVE SCAM!!!
@@tombradshaw5164- 90% of Earths atmosphere is no higher than 4,000 meters above sea level . Facts.
MO NOXI DE not D EYE OXI DE
Can you imagine thermal runaway on that thing? While you’re on the sea with nowhere to go. If you do get into a lifeboat, make sure you’re not consumed by the cloud of toxic fumes that’ll be spewing everywhere. This looks like a disaster waiting to happen.
Surely the greenest thing to do with shipping is to go back to actual sails??
For sure, didn't even get a notice. Just checking it out let's see what we have today.
An obvious solution to this EV madness is to legally enforce the mining operations to be banned from using fossil fuel powered machinery but to use only EV vehicles and Electric earth moving equipment. That’ll kill off this completely barking and stupid EV nonsense at a stroke.
I’d rather travel in a normal diesel cruise ship it’s far safer than EV Cruise Ship which is far too dangerous. Like EV passenger planes no thank you.
Well said MGUY.
They don't use diesel at night try doing some research in steady of being su ked in by noddy dog.
Are you an Evangelist? Why don’t ymyob.
So what if they hit a hurricane and a hull breach occur and saltwater reaches the batteries and a thermal runaway start?? The only real firefighing equipment they have on these ferrys is using seawater and to put out a battery fire with saltwater... well, you get the point. And how do they get this approved? I know the answer to that, the ship has a big "green" stamp on it so then authorities will approve any thing no matter how deadly it is🤣🤣🤣
I like how the power drops off all of a sudden with the dyson or my ozito drill. Bit different when you are navigating rough seas or trying to remain airborne.
Another example of - ignorance can be cured; stupid is forever.
Let them launch it, let those who want to sail on it, You get what you pay for..
Ive had Boats for 35 years , The worst day I ever had Boating was from a Flat Battery ! You cant get out and walk in a Boat and when it's Night time it's Scary as FK no matter How Hard you think you are !
4:45 Improved aerodynamics and sails to catch wind are mutually exclusive. That shows you how much of a word salad that press release is.
Exactly. They know no physics.
Jacques Cousteau invented something he called the "Turbo Sail" (TS) in 1980. Based on the photos in this video, I'm guessing this is the same technology. Surprisingly, it actually works.
Now, let's define the word, "works."
Per sail, the TS cannot generate the same lateral lift (force) as traditional sails. They therefore move the vessel much more slowly. As with traditional sails, they cannot move the vessel into the headwind; a tack is required. Unless, that is, you wish to add diesel power to draw air down the leeward side, increasing lift and therefore being able to sail into the wind. But very slowly.
Jacques, himself, admitted that propellers/impellers were required as auxiliary power, especially in turbulent winds or if you're trying to keep to a shipping schedule. Work on his TS has continued on-and-off since then, but you'll notice ships are N-O-T using this technology, not even recreational ships.
So this new "We're reducing our C footprint with new technology" claim is just unicorns for virtue signaling. It simply means: (1) It isn't new and (2) it comes at a cost of delays and direct danger to the crew and passengers if the ship is caught at sea in even a tropical depression. I sense a massive lawsuit coming when the TSs are bent even a little in a storm, and the ship hasn't the power to get itself to safe harbor.
I would never travel on a ship with 100s of thousands of explosive lithium batteries... if that thing has thermal runaway, it's probably going to vaporize the ocean to space.
Dont get the batteries wet.
We learned from Florida hurricanes that EVs dont do well in salt water.
I’ve seen rotating sails similar to this in magazine articles. The wind rotates the sails turns a generator to create electricity. I don’t think they were intended to propel on its own, but as a supplement. This was long before climate change was a thing.
But they never took off.
I can't wait for one to be built. A lifetime of content for MGUY!!!
Back to sailing ships. What progress.
And they WERE environmentally friendly.
Could you imagine getting stranded on that thing while the batteries catch on fire? It would be worse than the Titanic!
Imagine going through a storm, and the battery runs out on your ship? 😂😂😂
I wonder how all the EV fire trucks are working out in California's horrendous wild fires . They also diverted the water to save the smelt, which they ended up killing anyways. Way To Go California!
Imagine That Thing Exploded at Ports That Thing Would Explosion like a Nuclear Explosion
For cargo transport ships, the idea of metal, computer-controlled sails as an adjunct to a normal diesel powerplant makes particular sense from an economic standpoint: Boats use a RIDICULOUS amount of fuel per mile.
Love your content Simon. You have common sense, which ain't too common these days.
My noddy dog on the parcel.rack.had more.sense then this noddy.
@@terryquarton2523 your noddy dog was probably more literate than you.
🤣🤣🤣 Battery fire at sea. On current cruises passengers are warned NEVER to charge their Lithium battery devices in their cabins unattended.
The Titanic will have nothing on one of these when it catches fire.
I worked as a draughtsman then promoted to a design engineer in a large shipyard for many years, l have never heard anything so stupid as this
And no doubt you will hear alot more stupid ideas in the future! Stupid is as stupid does.
Emagine if the ev cruise ships batteries went into thermal runaway
Youd have alot of "crispy" human beings
And a fire You could be able to see it from the international space station ....
Emagine the environmental impacts and disaster mess that would make
The ocean is pretty rough, I wouldn't want to be out of power
I bet it has a large-arsed
DIESEL ELECTRIC GENERATOR.
For when Carter the Farter can’t Start’er.
These ideas should be encouraged! Let the EVangilist companies pour money into these ideas until they collapse financially. Some people need to learn the hard way about stupid ideas.
Batteries and water don't mix. Even a schoolkid will tell you this. What do these people have for brains?
I think they’ve thought: “If we can’t stop people from dumping batteries into the ocean, we must join them!”🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Sort of almost as pointless as Cruise Ships/Cruises as well imo.
Float around the place with heaps of other people, getting ripped off with prices, eating/drinking too much and seeing exactly the same places that everyone else does.
Fair chance you will catch something nasty while you're at it.
Yippee.
How about cruise ships using tidal power? Just set it adrift and let it float where it will. Adds to the mystery of it.
EV Ships likely 1 Power plant to charge for 8 hours🤣🤣🤣🤣 imagine The ships Stop in open Sea scary
Our grand fathers certainly knew about climate change by making and using wooden ships with sails.
MGuy for President of Australia 2025
I think he is originally from the Dutch country of the Netherlands. Therefore, he is not a Born citizen, additionally the Netherlands have a Prime Minister, not a President.
Harbour Master: “Captain, when will you be ready to sail?”
Capt: “In about six months, when the battery is charged”.
This project is NOT STUPID....
because anybody who working on it... will get A LOT of money of it 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Good point🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I think you may be correct🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 they probably will🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.
just waiting for that moment where one these companies have an 'original' idea and starts bragging that they will put wind turbines onto a boat that will allow it to sail into the wind
Can you imagine the result of a thermal runaway?
Thats a catastrophe waiting to happen!
Electric vehicles are NOT and will NEVER be 'Net Zero'.
And who wants to be stuck in the middle of an ocean on a floating EV battery?
Absolute Madness and ignorance.
Cannot wait to read about a cruise ship with a thermal run away batteery issue......
Welcome to EV motto, Garbage in, Garbage out. What could possibly go wrong ?
If politicians believe they can control the weather or what sort of transport we use, they aren't suffering from insanity, they are quite enjoying it! They need to be voted out.
Electric Cruise ship? Surely it would be cheaper and more economical just to make them all Nuclear powered.
I think they’ve thought: “If we can’t stop people from dumping batteries into the ocean, we must join them!”🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
These people have lost their minds and are going backwards.
We can just launch a net zero cruise line by requiring all passengers to take shifts pulling oars in the below deck exercise rooms.😂
The Romans used to have green/net zero ships. Accommodation wasn’t great though.
Imagine the size of fire when one of those goes up. And the amount of pollution when it sinks...
2:20 A battery with energy that dense is a bomb !!! and how many Amps and hours will it take to charge? 🤣🤣🤣
"Trying is the first step toward failure." - Homer Simpson
If you think the car carrying ships went up in smoke due to salt water fog or wave intrusion, wait until the massive ship battery goes into runaway. Call those ships Barbie class cruisers
About as sensible as electric freight trains........ yes, they've tried that too!