Thanks for such a nice compliment. We *love* Surronster and his content! That said, there are so many great features and upgrades with the Sigma, we wanted to focus a bit more on covering the juicy details that we thought most riders would appreciate!
Who thought it was a good idea to make a video introducing a new bike, go to the trouble of actually getting the bike on location, and then throwing a cover over it for 90% of the video 🤣
$5,500 seems like a sick price. A shot across the bow, indeed. I was so close to ordering an MX5 but the Sigma looks like it might eat Talaria for lunch, hmm... Reliability will be key, though. Hopefully the electronics are fully sorted since this appears to be using all new components and a different, lesser-used voltage system. I assume aftermarket controllers/tunes will be coming - is there any headroom left in the stock motor/battery for more power (similar to what the Torp TC500 can do) or is this thing pretty fully maxxed from the factory? Looking forward to seeing more for sure!
So as I stated on a other channel reviewing this bike, I am excited for the chance to own one. This price point for the performance is incredible, but I read the stats for suspension travel and was hoping that the 3" of travel for the rear (linkage) would equate to more like 7"-8" in the arm. Hopefully that's the case, as 3.5" in the rear is kind of a bad design compared to everything else this time offers.
@@RevRides360 oh cool how do you guys think the size compares to an mx5? surronster and zay solis say it’s like the size of a surron but the measurements online say it’s a bit bigger than an mx5
How does it compare to other e moto bikes in terms of size? I love how small my e ride feels compared to my dirt bike, but this checks a lot of boxes that I would otherwise need to dump a ton of money on to fix
Have a E ride pro SS 2.0. This looks awesome though 98v is wicked. Although ive never heard of Altis. Id be willing to put my E ride up for sell but we currently have no clue about this company so that worries me slightly. If they prove to be reliable and the company has good customer service i may pull the trigger
@@averyrhoden2345 just wondering how you know that? Altis has been around for about 3 months as a company (i.e., has no track record). The principle address for the business is a condo in West Covina, CA. The company is apparently being run by a single guy (Qin Feng is listed as CEO, CFO, Director, Secretary, and Registered Agent).
I agree and if I was to buy an ebike right now it would be Surron or Talaria because all these other no names might be gone tomorrow then what do you do.
You can count on Talaria and E ride pro putting out bikes that compare and even top the Atlas within the next year. Then Atlas will make a faster bike, then Talaria, then E ride pro and so on...
You're right! We see this with most major brands like Apple, Samsung, DJI, etc. Competition always leads to innovation, and the consumers get to benefit from the evolution and advancements. It's an exciting time for e-moto enthusiasts, for sure!
@@RevRides360 I only wish we had time in between bikes to enjoy the new model before the competition decided to put out the next best thing in a month 😄
I order a black one few days ago from rev ride's can't wait to get it on the trails here in Minnesota I wish you got it earlier I payed in full but still have to wait tell early November to get it in my hands...
@clintroberts1 Not me. Im 6'6". I'm going to need the taller tires. I'm already afraid the bike is going to be a bit small for me. Plus, bigger tires mean higher top speed.
Tics many boxes but fails the obvious 18/21 inch serup, strange. About brake pads. Can you set the bike to only regen when braking? Does it have anti spin? Like the Ultra Bee. Does it have ABS brakes?
It doesn't have bigger wheels for your exact reasoning 21 18 adds about 8 lbs and makes it to large for newer riders smaller riders. This is the Swiss Army knife of bikes as most everything but not everything. Traction control and abs that's not needed it is more of a crutch. no need for abs on a dirt bike. This is also a $5500 bike if it was $1000 more I'm sure those options could happen... Remember this is just the 1st bike....
Brand new... Eride pro has been around 1 year.... Talaria 3 years. Surron 7 years.... if you started a business would you want to be judged on the fact that you just started the business? just a thought...
I think most smart consumers consider the company and having no history is definitely on the negative side, like no warranty, service, shipping history, and parts availability. I think feeling "judged" is a little triggered. It looks like a great product with a bright future!@@RevRides360
@@RevRides360 The newer, the more risk, that's all. I don't want to be stuck with a bad battery for example and suddenly no parts or warranty. Then it's worth nothing since nobody else will buy it from you either.
* MX-5 has the Gear Box * ALTIS has the Gear Box * SurRons No Gear Box * eRide Pro No Gear Box The mx5 can become more like the ALTIS where the others cannot.
Why would the MX5 want to be like the Atlas?... Why would ANY bike want to be like the Atlas? 🤨 This is market competition, you don't think Talaria, Suron, E ride are all gonna one up each other and keep leap frogging bikes that go faster for longer?
@@BrooklynNY1979 Why would the MX5 want to be like the Atlas?... Because Altis wants to be an MX-3. Check it. 1. the MX3, the first with a gear box. 2. the MX3, the first with a beef up frame. 3. MX4 the first with IPM. 4. Talaria was the first company to push the limits. Talaria's frame and gear box among its peers became the gold standard. The common novice now understands how far ahead of its time the MX3 was and is. Talaria's frame design was copied by Altis, that proves how forward the mx3 design was. All the parts from a MX5 are interchangeable with the MX3. So technically an MX3 can be advanced to the level of the Altis with ease. Other surRon type bikes don't own the foundation to remain current. However, the MX-3 does due to owning a Gear Box and best frame design. All that said, the Altis became a MX-6 and Talaria should copy Altis by upgrading the volts/watts. Seeing Talaria was the first to show them the way.
Our mistake... These were originally going to be released with 30Ah batteries, but Altis decided to do one better, and give us the 35Ah, which increased the weight to 185lbs.
We had this bike in our hands 4 days after they got it in the country. there were only 5 other people to see it and we were the first to video it... So that would in turn BE EXCLUSIVE.... Everything you can do aftermarket pars on to personalize it but thanks for the comment We love it!
Sorry about that! We recorded this about a month ago and were reviewing a prototype that still had a few of the details (like voltage and battery size) that were subject to change.
The size of the Sigma is closer to pit bike size (33" seat height) which is why a 19/16 setup works for this bike. The Ultra is a bigger bike (close to full size with a nearly 36" seat height) more conducive to a 21/18 setup. I've run 19/16 setups on smaller bikes and they were awesome. I would not put a 19/16 setup on a bigger bike like the Ultra because it just begs for 21/18. Ultra riders don't just dislike the 19 front, they tend to not like the 19 rear even more so. 19/19 square setup in just not good for that bike. Could you put a 21/18 setup on the Sigma? The real question is should you on a bike this size (different geo)?
Do you stock small coffins too for all the kids that are gonna meet their maker riding this bike. Are they TRYIN to kill our kids lol. This movement is getting into murky waters now where the government/cops will have no option but to come down super hard. These are not bikes for teens anymore especially on the streets, offroad or at the track go for it if you're parents are good with it. To be fair, it isn't even a debate anymore. Nice bike tho, not sure about the battery yet though, 35Ah apparently. The usual rule to date is half the 'company range spec' to get your answer and it's never been wrong yet so yeah the battery is my only issue I mean they had to save money somewhere at that price. Good job on the presentation though.
@@RevRides360 Sorry but if you're tryin to equate BMXs and skateboards to an electric bike that leaves a Lamborghini sitting with a top speed of 75mph you're not exactly the brightest now are you? Give your head a wobble for feck sake.
Much more informative than Surronster's video. Thanks
Yup. Glad I got to see this video after
Thanks for such a nice compliment. We *love* Surronster and his content! That said, there are so many great features and upgrades with the Sigma, we wanted to focus a bit more on covering the juicy details that we thought most riders would appreciate!
No doubt, he literally makes the worst content possible I don't know why he gets so taken care of
I wouldn't compare him to them... 2 different perspective.
@@Razorcrew_Cole he simply gets the viewers excited with his energy and the thing he's reviewing at the time.
Who thought it was a good idea to make a video introducing a new bike, go to the trouble of actually getting the bike on location, and then throwing a cover over it for 90% of the video 🤣
They selling it like Yall ain't Never seen some shit like this.
we got a 98v ebike called "sigma" before gta6
Great ride and awesome presentation.
I love the 50-mile range!
Next level power and range!
$5,500 seems like a sick price. A shot across the bow, indeed.
I was so close to ordering an MX5 but the Sigma looks like it might eat Talaria for lunch, hmm... Reliability will be key, though. Hopefully the electronics are fully sorted since this appears to be using all new components and a different, lesser-used voltage system.
I assume aftermarket controllers/tunes will be coming - is there any headroom left in the stock motor/battery for more power (similar to what the Torp TC500 can do) or is this thing pretty fully maxxed from the factory? Looking forward to seeing more for sure!
This looks similar to the talaria dragon but a thousand dollars cheaper
jeeeeez altis crushed it out of the gate, great video
bro this bike is crazy I need it
Insanity, right?!
@@RevRides360 yes
the price or bike LOL
@@XanderGooding-Grandoit the bike is actually cheap af (considering sur ron & other bike's prices)
they should give it the option to get it all blacked out. Blacked out forks, blacked out rear suspension, and no white stickers would be dope!
Wish more would come with a VIN and street legal equipment.
How do i unlock offroad mode on the altis???
It is unlocked fully with the black key
ATTN: ALTIS please add thumb regen and ffs raise the frt brake caliper above the bottom of the fork
Can't wait for it to be released 🔥
Available for pre-order now at www.revrides.com/altis :)
This bike is crazy
Rev rides only physical location is next door to my workplace, lmao and I see this guy all the time is was like no way
good seeing you sir I personally wont be around that area for a while but come by some time talk to Jerm or Nate if you need anything -Patrick
Looks amazing! Great job 🫡
Thank you! Cheers!
So as I stated on a other channel reviewing this bike, I am excited for the chance to own one. This price point for the performance is incredible, but I read the stats for suspension travel and was hoping that the 3" of travel for the rear (linkage) would equate to more like 7"-8" in the arm. Hopefully that's the case, as 3.5" in the rear is kind of a bad design compared to everything else this time offers.
I think thats shock travel and should equate to around 8" of wheel travel depending on the linkage ratio.
Is it possible that the battery is removable? How much does the bike weigh without the battery installed if it is removable?
damn...Altis really came through and crushed the buildings
W bike w edit! I wish I could get one
Just snagged mine! So stoked
Same. Last night.
Congrats!! You're gonna love it!
What's a beadlock? Is that the same as a rimlock? A lot of these "features" can be added to any other small emoto.
Pretty sure I'm going to have to buy this for my wife
What wheels will be compatible with this? Surron or Talaria?
Im thinking about modding mine up to an 124volt system.
so should I get this or the mx5. also you should make a video showing all the features and buttons and the different settings you can do.
I was going to get an mx5 but ordered one of these instead
We'll do a more in-depth video, soon! Thanks for watching.
@@RevRides360 and a range test then i will buy
I need an E-Dirt Bike in my life
can you ship to the uk or will it have to come out in dealer ships in the uk
biggest thing i’m worried about is the suspension and the size. do you think you could put an 18/21 inch wheelset on it?
Yes
@@phat56pat how do you know
because @phat56pat is the guy talking in the video ;-)
@@RevRides360 oh cool how do you guys think the size compares to an mx5? surronster and zay solis say it’s like the size of a surron but the measurements online say it’s a bit bigger than an mx5
How does it compare to other e moto bikes in terms of size? I love how small my e ride feels compared to my dirt bike, but this checks a lot of boxes that I would otherwise need to dump a ton of money on to fix
I’m in the same boat. Also wondering about the quality of the components since all the emx bikes seem to be less durable
dose the black one not come with the side plastics and stuff
Both colors do.
I hope they make a peddle kit for this
Have a E ride pro SS 2.0. This looks awesome though 98v is wicked. Although ive never heard of Altis. Id be willing to put my E ride up for sell but we currently have no clue about this company so that worries me slightly. If they prove to be reliable and the company has good customer service i may pull the trigger
They are owned by voro motors. So you can research them as a company to help a little
@@averyrhoden2345 just wondering how you know that? Altis has been around for about 3 months as a company (i.e., has no track record). The principle address for the business is a condo in West Covina, CA. The company is apparently being run by a single guy (Qin Feng is listed as CEO, CFO, Director, Secretary, and Registered Agent).
@@averyrhoden2345 where does it say they’re owned by Voro. I didnt find that
I agree and if I was to buy an ebike right now it would be Surron or Talaria because all these other no names might be gone tomorrow then what do you do.
great video, will you ship to Australia? I'll order through you if so.
Sick video
Heck yeah
Hell yeah brother
@@phat56patBeautiful locations 🤙
Appreciate it Legend!
Will there be a street legal version for europe (germany) ?
No. Only US market at the moment. Company out of California. We lucky!
Bro why did every emoto channel post about this bike all on the same day 😂
Press embargos
How’s the size compare to a surron. It looks a bit smaller. Especially on the 16” rear
slightly larger but not much
PLEASE ADD A REGEN LEVER I BOUGHT MINE AND ONLY THING I RGERET NO REGEN LEVER CANIR BE ADDEDD?
The revers button (R) does the regenerative breaking.
Let's gooo!!
Should i get altis sugma or a surron ?
Sigma, son!
Question will it be available in the uk?
Is it confirmed that it’s 70 mph+ on both models or just the 19x19?
can’t wait to see logan taylor on one of these
does it have regen braking
Does it start with a key
If I’m 5,6 how would I fit on it
This is like the 10 th video that came out today on this bike
I know of 4 full length what are the other 6?
What the website called
How many digits for the VIN ? Hopefully 17...
You can count on Talaria and E ride pro putting out bikes that compare and even top the Atlas within the next year. Then Atlas will make a faster bike, then Talaria, then E ride pro and so on...
You're right! We see this with most major brands like Apple, Samsung, DJI, etc. Competition always leads to innovation, and the consumers get to benefit from the evolution and advancements. It's an exciting time for e-moto enthusiasts, for sure!
@@RevRides360 I only wish we had time in between bikes to enjoy the new model before the competition decided to put out the next best thing in a month 😄
this vs the stark?
The cover! Halfway in and still covered. 😢
Wonder if it would be Jerry approved
I order a black one few days ago from rev ride's can't wait to get it on the trails here in Minnesota I wish you got it earlier I payed in full but still have to wait tell early November to get it in my hands...
Can u get spare batteries
Sigma or sigma MX for riding in NYC streets?
Sigma, not the MX. Mx is for off-road riding
Seems like you would get MX and then swap the front wheel with a 16 and Supermotos and then maybe change the rear sprocket.
@clintroberts1 Not me. Im 6'6". I'm going to need the taller tires. I'm already afraid the bike is going to be a bit small for me. Plus, bigger tires mean higher top speed.
@@edgurash834 Ah yes, different story then. 19's all around
Look like eride pro ss tires to me 👀
These were 80% prototype bikes. Final production will have different tires. We failed to mention that in the video. Thanks for watching!
Wait so the 16 inch wheels are slower?
Looks like different sprocket size geared for more low end torque/quicker take off.
@@clintroberts1 44T on MX vs. 39T on standard
Personally I think the red one is more cool. what about everyone else?
Black
they DONT TELL YOU IF THE BATTERY IS REMOVABLE THEY JUST WNAT YOUR MONEY
It’s remove like any other bike do your research before commenting stupid shit
hi
*Yewhh!*
🤙🏽⚡️🤟🏽⚡️👌🏽
Hell yeah brother
yeahhhhhh sir!
Looks cool
Hell yeah brother
Buy me a sigma
Can you fit supermotos
Yes!
how is it so cheap? they had to cut cost somewhere.
Large asian market for them and economies of scale.
Tics many boxes but fails the obvious 18/21 inch serup, strange.
About brake pads. Can you set the bike to only regen when braking?
Does it have anti spin?
Like the Ultra Bee.
Does it have ABS brakes?
Traction control is for the newbs
@@phat56patAnd what is wrong with that? More customers. More riders in the electric comminuty.
It doesn't have bigger wheels for your exact reasoning 21 18 adds about 8 lbs and makes it to large for newer riders smaller riders. This is the Swiss Army knife of bikes as most everything but not everything. Traction control and abs that's not needed it is more of a crutch. no need for abs on a dirt bike. This is also a $5500 bike if it was $1000 more I'm sure those options could happen... Remember this is just the 1st bike....
@@RevRides360Would not be too large with 18/21 if they thought of it from the design stage of course.
@@RevRides360 world it be possible to put an 18/21 on it?
Nice!!!
I don't know anything about Altis - has this company been around long? I see no 'About' on their website - bad sign.
Brand new... Eride pro has been around 1 year.... Talaria 3 years. Surron 7 years.... if you started a business would you want to be judged on the fact that you just started the business? just a thought...
I think most smart consumers consider the company and having no history is definitely on the negative side, like no warranty, service, shipping history, and parts availability. I think feeling "judged" is a little triggered. It looks like a great product with a bright future!@@RevRides360
@@RevRides360 The newer, the more risk, that's all. I don't want to be stuck with a bad battery for example and suddenly no parts or warranty. Then it's worth nothing since nobody else will buy it from you either.
We need more range
35Ah may seem small, but it's roughly equivalent to 45Ah @ 72V. You're going to get plenty of range! Thanks for watching :)
Keeps the bike covered for most of the vid, yet shows sneak pics of it uncovered ? 😂
so sweeeettt
* MX-5 has the Gear Box
* ALTIS has the Gear Box
* SurRons No Gear Box
* eRide Pro No Gear Box
The mx5 can become more like the ALTIS where the others cannot.
all true
Why would the MX5 want to be like the Atlas?... Why would ANY bike want to be like the Atlas? 🤨 This is market competition, you don't think Talaria, Suron, E ride are all gonna one up each other and keep leap frogging bikes that go faster for longer?
@@BrooklynNY1979
Why would the MX5 want to be like the Atlas?... Because Altis wants to be an MX-3.
Check it.
1. the MX3, the first with a gear box.
2. the MX3, the first with a beef up frame.
3. MX4 the first with IPM.
4. Talaria was the first company to push the limits.
Talaria's frame and gear box among its peers became the gold standard. The common novice now understands how far ahead of its time the MX3 was and is.
Talaria's frame design was copied by Altis, that proves how forward the mx3 design was. All the parts from a MX5 are interchangeable with the MX3. So technically an MX3 can be advanced to the level of the Altis with ease.
Other surRon type bikes don't own the foundation to remain current. However, the MX-3 does due to owning a Gear Box and best frame design.
All that said, the Altis became a MX-6 and Talaria should copy Altis by upgrading the volts/watts. Seeing Talaria was the first to show them the way.
Is that a car charger plug???
170lbs? You sure? The factory website says 185 ….
Our mistake... These were originally going to be released with 30Ah batteries, but Altis decided to do one better, and give us the 35Ah, which increased the weight to 185lbs.
3.3" rear travel? That can't be right. That would make it very poor performing in most enduro and offroad situations.
The Talaria Boy will test it and then we will know what it has.
Right 3.3" is like an 80mm e-bike suspension.
when it gets here we will come to this video and answer questions!
Says on Voro motors website that it as 85mm with linkage same as talaria
They might be talking about shock travel instead of wheel travel. If it's really 85mm of wheel travel that's pathetic.
the varg is still better then ?
Different class and size
varg is 400 volt and $12,000
@@RevRides360 out the door 14k and around 19k loaded.
Why keep it covered for so long?
remove the background music LOL!
Turn it down by 25-50%
1st.. you're not exclusive
2nd... we hope we don't need aftermarket parts
We had this bike in our hands 4 days after they got it in the country. there were only 5 other people to see it and we were the first to video it... So that would in turn BE EXCLUSIVE.... Everything you can do aftermarket pars on to personalize it but thanks for the comment We love it!
I will be producing aftermarket parts and Im sure tons of other company's will also.
3 minutes in and I’m still staring at a covered bike
It's more like 185 lbs!
Can u pleeeeeese ship to aus
No regen?
Has regen
R on there will operate Regen and Reverse.
Um, price???
Introductory price is $5499. More information can be found on our website, www.REVRides.com/altis
Thanks for watching!
$5500
What the top speed
He said 75 mph if you get 19 in tires front and rear
Boomer get the volts wrong.........
Sorry about that! We recorded this about a month ago and were reviewing a prototype that still had a few of the details (like voltage and battery size) that were subject to change.
@@RevRides360 I was just teasing lol great presentation though
@@superchargedx8058 No worries. Thank you and thanks for watching!
so does this have a street legal version for us EU frogs?
only selling in usa for the moment
@@RevRides360 you got any info on this case? Like street legal surron or eride pro for eu?
would you guys trade me i have an e ride pro ss 2.0 i haven’t crashed it with under then 150 miles il pay the rest
Just sell your bike and buy one.
Sorry bud
you will be able to sell it pretty easy
Salve potete spedire in Italia?
No regen lever? Huge miss
R is regen and reverse
its the R on the left side
Please delete the iPad on the handlebars
16 inch rear wheel that digs in ?
Really bro ?
19 inch front that Surron Ultra riders hate , why ?
Does look the part though ...
The size of the Sigma is closer to pit bike size (33" seat height) which is why a 19/16 setup works for this bike. The Ultra is a bigger bike (close to full size with a nearly 36" seat height) more conducive to a 21/18 setup. I've run 19/16 setups on smaller bikes and they were awesome. I would not put a 19/16 setup on a bigger bike like the Ultra because it just begs for 21/18. Ultra riders don't just dislike the 19 front, they tend to not like the 19 rear even more so. 19/19 square setup in just not good for that bike. Could you put a 21/18 setup on the Sigma? The real question is should you on a bike this size (different geo)?
wen EU
Do you stock small coffins too for all the kids that are gonna meet their maker riding this bike. Are they TRYIN to kill our kids lol. This movement is getting into murky waters now where the government/cops will have no option but to come down super hard. These are not bikes for teens anymore especially on the streets, offroad or at the track go for it if you're parents are good with it. To be fair, it isn't even a debate anymore.
Nice bike tho, not sure about the battery yet though, 35Ah apparently. The usual rule to date is half the 'company range spec' to get your answer and it's never been wrong yet so yeah the battery is my only issue I mean they had to save money somewhere at that price. Good job on the presentation though.
There are many responses to be made to this but its no different than all the things that have been around since the beginning of time.
@@RevRides360 Sorry but if you're tryin to equate BMXs and skateboards to an electric bike that leaves a Lamborghini sitting with a top speed of 75mph you're not exactly the brightest now are you? Give your head a wobble for feck sake.
You seem like the kinda guy that sends back soup for being too hot
c
C ya soon
Same bike different name with a terrible power to battery setup. yuck
elaborate....