Canon G7X III VLOGGING test: 4k vs 1080 and mic
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- Testing the Canon G7X III for vlogging in 1080, 4k and with mic
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Testing the Canon G7X III for vlogging in 1080, 4k and with mic
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Gordon Laing superb review as always. 4K? Meh, not interested. But the rest is compelling and yes phase detect would be nice but not holding my breath considering Canon’s usual approach. Price wise though I must admit I was hoping for it.
So, is the stabilization digital? I don't remember about the G7x mark II but the G5x had 5 axis before. If they changed 5 axis to digital is like a step back, isnt it?
@@MyDestinyOfficial they use a combination. Basic IS is optical, then the more advanced modes add electronic stabilisation to enhance it.
Thank you so much for posting this! You are one brave creator, recording in front of all these people without letting them distract you from your speech is admirable. Props to you man!
Thanks! I think I freaked a few office workers out on their way to lunch!
@@cameralabs I can imagine. Not very common for people to see a TH-camr vlogger on a daily basis. This is what makes this craft so unique and cool! 🔥
he is my dawg yo!
I was going to say the same thing! Good on ya, Gordon!
Your demo of the G7X III just put me one more step closer to getting. Thanks for your in-depth real-time demo Gordon.
You're welcome! I'll be posting an in-depth review of it against the G5X II in about a week if you can wait!
I was actually considering this cam as a replacement for my current B vlog cam the Canon G1X III just to have 4K and mic-in but looking at the footage I think I will stick with it until Sony comes with a M7 of the RX100. The optical stabilised 1080 image from the G1X looks more pleasing (maybe due to the larger sensor) and the DP AF never failed on me, audio is also pretty decent with some windjammers glued to the mics. If only Canon would make a G1X with non cropped 4k and mic-in...... Thanks for the fast review of this new cam, I'll wait for my next purchase until you've reviewed it. 😅
Good to see a step in the right direction from Cannon by adding a mic input and upgrading the picture quality! I see this as a good run and gun camera for travel and quick day to day needs that don’t require the price of a large DSLR. Only thing is at 7:07 if you use a external mic it needs to be put on a mounting accessory that hooks with the camera and mic because there is no place to put it on the camera . Great Review!
This is one of the first cameras I can see a difference between 4k and 1080p for canon.
Thanks for this review Gordon! I would love to see you do a review comparing the mark ii and mark iii. Very informative, appreciate it!!!
You're welcome! The III basically gives you 4k, live streaming, a mic input and vertical video.
quite interested to hear more about the f1.8 aperture and depth of field. In your video the background is relatively blurry, was it at max f1.8? I'm considering this camera and hoping to see a real difference with my current Panasonic fz200 (1/2.3" f2.8 superzoom camera) in terms of depth of field :)
Yes, this was filmed at f1.8, so this is the maximum blurring effect you'll get when vlogging at 24mm.
@@cameralabs awesome, thanks for the feedback!!
Thank you so much for the review, Gordon.
There are so many reasons in which this camera disappoints but I still want it and most of the reason is because this video confirms a few things for me. Thanks again.
You're welcome, lots more tests to follow!
Cannon would probably sponsor this guy after watching this..
Thanks for the video man!!!
Glad you liked it! None of the companies would want to sponsor me though as I tell the good and the bad as an independant journalist!
@@cameralabs I was confused between this and m50... What u suggest??
@@kanny8742 if you M50 isn't too big, then get it because you get DPAF and a mic input.
Canon, one "n".
Gordon you’re Making Camera Reviews Great Again 😀
Ha ha, I should put that on a T shirt!
Did you have any over heating issues while filming? Can’t wait for the full review
For this sequence I filmed about 15 mins worth of footage, and it overheated at the end. It seems happy to keep recording 1080 clips, but more than about 10 -20mins of 4k and you need to let it cool between clips. I'll discuss this in my final review.
Fantastic review. Thank you Gordon!
Hmmm... the resolution from 1080 to 4k is not as dramatic as I thought it would be.
Although the environment was a bit drab, it was well chosen and the education you conveyed is priceless. Thank you.
Thanks! I only choose this interior location when it's too bright - or wet - outside.
Great video as always, Gordon. I've just moved to Brighton, so your videos are extra special to me. Surprisingly, Canon is leading the way for mic input, let's hope the other guys are going to follow suit.
Now that you have had this for a while would you say it's worth the upgrade price from the G7x Mark ii?
I only had it for a couple of weeks - I'm a reviewer, so the gear is sent to me, I test it, then I send it back again. But I did retest this one with the firmware fix for the autofocus in another video. I'd say go for the M50 if you want good AF and don't need a pocket size.
Gordon Laing thanks for the advice. I do have a m50, as my “big” camera. I was looking to add a “small” one for broll or outside quick clips. Do you recommend I go with the mark ii? Or a different camera all together for what I am looking to do?
@@JuanCamacho21 it depends how good you want the AF to be, I think after the M50 you would be disappointed. Maybe another EOS M camera with a small lens, otherwise go for the G7X II.
Hey Gordon, the new firmware upgrade for the autofocus is online, can you please test it? thank youuu
Where did you get the adapter for the mic?
The mark ii has had a horrible clicking sound from the auto focus. I don’t notice it in this video.
Does plugging in an external mic get rid of that sound? I know it’s still happening, but does the mic not pic it up?
What I have noticed that when I film in 1080 with Mk iii its quality is not as good as my old mk ii ,looks like I need to start filming in 4k but that will eat the MB,s . Thanks for the vid atb Dave..
A couple of comments, after watching your review without looking at any other footage coming from this camera:
A) 1080p is considerably soft (unsurprisingly Canon, even with their DSLRs...), and its sharpness barely increases while shooting in 4K, according to this vid.
B) The fact that is camera is preferred by "vloggers" doesn´t mean the overwhelming majority of the population potentially buying this camera (who are NOT vloggers) are going to find the main problem related to this camera by watching this vid (that is, its lousy CDAF) since shooting your face, at a more or less fixed distance, with face-tracking enabled, is not its primary use; they´re going to find its limitations (and the reason why people like me run away from 1" cameras with CDAF) while they´re shooting anything other than their faces, that being a bunch of trees, the omnipresent dog, or simply a bunch of coffee cups at different distances... ;)
C) Both the G7X I and II had a well known problem concening the noise the AF makes, being perfectly audible on quiet environments, and perfectly capable of ruining your audio on silent environments. Not that I expect anything different, but if you could include a comment about it in your final review, it would be appreciated.
Cheers!
Don't worry, I'll try and cover everything in my final review. This video was just solely about vlogging.
Hi! Thanks for the review. Do you have a link for the v clamp mount you showed? :)
i want to
It's nice to have microphone input but it's like where do you put the mic?
A wireless mic clips on your collar or they have mics that fit on a bracket no hot shoe needed. They also have mics for cell phones that just plug in and are small and unobtrusive.
Thanks, nice demonstration. Just bought the camera (slightly used) and excited to get a few good tips. However, I am always curious as to why the obligatory method of delivering a video is walk around shooting handheld. I realize you this to better show the capabilities of the camera. Just seems there are so many cinematic compositions waiting to be filmed with the technologies at out fingertips?
I try to do a mix, but for vlogging tests, it's gonna be mostly handheld.
No drop test?
I can honestly say I’m a little underwhelmed by the camera. No fault of your well versed and knowledgeable review. As a canon man, I think I’d sooner fork it out and buy the mark 6.
Are you able to tell me if this camera has a timelapse function? Thanks for the video!
Hi Gordon. Can you recommend a mic patch lead to use a Zoom H1 with this camera? Is that a Rode SC7 you are using? Thanks.
Greetings from Mexico, thanks to this video I've decided to reserve this camera, Mic Plug in a compact camara is a good reason to get this camera. Thanks
Shotgun is much more important filming on camera while lav mic can be recorded separately onto an old phone or any sound recorder and synced in post quite seamlessly.
I was really hoping for DPAF..
I won't use 4k and very very rarely the 120 fps. Nor won't I use the mic jack.
Should I get the G7x II or the G7x III ?
Right now, the only reason for me to upgrade is the Digic 8 processor. Is it worth upgrading from the 6th (Mark II) or should I just go for the G7x II.
Im using my G7X MARK II ON MY VIDEO.....
The g1xm3 has dpaf.
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The 4K resolution is VERY noticeable, so much more details (even if you watch at 1080p... go figure)
Also very surprised that the contrast AF is very controlled, not too much pulsing.... that said, you didnt challenge it much I think, the camera was always at the same distance.
Strangely, the price of mk2 in Amazon had gone up by $50.-
number one. Audio
I agree.
Why is external sound a problem? It has the potential, maybe probability, of being better. I see TH-camrs such as Adam Gibbs apologising for their sound quality when they have a blast of wind. I have used a lav mike under my clothing. I haven't done the wind test, but I expect it to be fine.
Can you show us some applicable types of mics for this g7x mark iii cuz I didn't see a hot/cold shoe mount on it, don't know which mic to buy...
try the rode videomic ME
If the choice was down to me - I see Canon M6 is down to $479.00 in U.S. I'll just skip the 4k, buy the M6 plus 11-22mm lens for wider angle and enjoy the whole new world called "interchangeable lenses" :)
Yep, or the M50
Damn, I'm so early its still 360p and no other res options... Be back later.
Yep, it's worth waiting until you can see the full res.
How much is it?
I recently shot an interview of a couple using three cameras of which just one does 2160p. Do you think this would be a credible second and third camera?
I like 4k for its cropping flexibility. My main camera, I framed a little loosely. Even if I had not, I had the possibility of cropping to one speaker or the other. The others only do 1080p.
In 4k it'll only film 10 minute clips, and after a couple of them you need to let it cool down for a bit, so I'd say it's not practical for long interviews.
How many minutes can you record continuously on video ??
Is this camera worth 240$ more than the M50 for mainly vlogging and hobby use?
No
excellent quality in 4k.
I want to buy my first camera for vlogging would you recommend this one?
Yes it's a good choice, although if you don't need 4k or a mic input, the Mark II could be more affordable. or if you have a bit more to spend, the Sony RX100 VA has better focusing.
amazing, great review
Thanks for the video!
You're welcome!
Thanks for take the time to explein, I have been waiting for this for long time
You're welcome, and I have lots more to come yet!
24mm equivalent full frame, the lens is 8.8mm so 24/8.8=2.72 crop factor, so f1.8 become 1.8*2.72=4.91 in full frame equivalent, 3.07 équivalent aps c with 1.6 crop, 2.46 m4/3 equivalent. Maybe good in his category, but you should really apply crop factor not only to focal, but also to aperture, this is extremly missleading for a lot of people. who dont have this knowledge....
Sorry those kind of missing detail annoyed me. I will still watch ur video and like them but....
And vlogging is also Broll so showing the af in other situation that face tracking is an essentiel part of vlogging test. And lowlight capability in in moderate lighted room is also mandatory.
Im sure there are some people around that think for themself after watching ur video, why buy a full frame or apsc? this one as good stab, af work well, f1.8 is awesome sauce, they will have great dissapointement when they will saw the limitation by themself and maybe feel a bit fooled.
I know also that u most of the time use a tripod/monopod block on ur chest, it s a great way to stab and i also do it, but it s missleading as it s make the stab look really better that it is. I have a canon M50 and the stab is s....t, I wonder a long time how u managed to be so good with it in ur test until I hear u speak of it in one or two of yours video (or more), u should always mention it, i was misslead by urs m50 tests and if i had only watch ur video, i could have been really upset at u after buying it. Was u doing that in this vidéo?
Yeah, its a (maybe hard) critic and its becuase I like ur videos and will still watch it, that I think u should do better. Just my opinion.
M@nµ some good points but equivalence aside the g7xii for example really does quite well in low light.
I'll be posting loads more tests in the near future...
It is perfectly OK to use the focal length equivalences with actual apertures as these are numbers people are used to. People will know that the sensor size counts. He was not making comparisons between different sensor sizes.
Btw I did develop the concept of equivalent aperture before I heard anyone else use it. There just are contexts where it should and should not be used.
@@rjkral yep, i have seen that from other video (maybe from gordon too). It s a very interesting camera and certainly will be a hit for Canon. It was my overreacting late night rant about something that it missleading, making this camera in the eyes of beginner look a lot better than it is. I still like Gordon video and think they are always some of the best around.
@@cameralabs I m sure that with all the videos, you will give a better whole picture.
I like your video, keep going.
Every people have their sensitive point about something, you ve seen one of mine, "dont speak of focal full frame equivalence if u dont speak of aperture full frame equivalence", it will always make me raise an eyebrow and put me in rant mode, I cant help myself on this point. Because when I was a beginner and i m still one, it took me a long time to understand that, there are a lot of misinformation around it, it s a really commun missconception for beginner. Its an important data to make apple to apple comparaison.
I could have make this comment on 99.9% of camera video review on youtube.
Im also doing video, and know how time consuming it is, and they are rarely video where u dont forget to say something, to explain better, specialy if u trying to make a short video, etc...
face look really out of focus in 1080p
Yes I noticed that too
You can have both mic input and PDAF, but it won't be a Canon. But since you get these + a larger sensor and ability to swap lenses, the extra U$250-300 can be justified.
if you listened, there is a very good explanation why it doesnt have pdaf.
Actually you could also get an EOS M50 with DPAF and a mic input for much the same price...
Finally canon has listened. could you also do a video on that youtube livestream feature? It would be awesome to see the jump in quality.
very nice video
Audio sounded worse with the Rode Go!
I'm going to do more mic tests...
No dual auto focus?.... pass...
It does not seem to properly focused on your face. It looks too soft even in 4K. Disappointed.
disagree. and no focus hunting noticed really here either. Not Disappointed.
Why canon? Why?
ernesto what kindi of camera u are using
To much talk not enough images and films as exemple !
Is the video quality worse than the G7Xii, or is it just me?
Wait till I've published all my results before you decide!
Great review
Thanks! More to come on this camera...
4k vs 1080 vs *360p* lol
Although at first I was like 'oh noes, Canon let us down again'. ;P
Ha ha, no that's YT being slow!
Gordon is so experienced, he doesn't let others' opinion of him affect his work ethic. You go, Gordon! Keep vlogging in front of all those people with zero care whatsoever. Haha!
Ha ha, I was getting a bit self-conscious in that passageway, but it was too bright to film outside in my usual vlogging street!
Please Make a comparison video between G7X Marc ii and iii.
I would take the flexibility of having a mic jack over better auto focus because I can always manually focus but you can’t fix unusable audio from a bad internal mic
That's very true.
Dual system sound is better and easy as pie to sync these days. Can't fix a blurry image.
Except you are getting 2015 focusing in 2019 at a premium price.
How about low light performance from this 1 inch sensor?
I will be testing that for my final review, but expect it to be similar to the RX100 IV.
+1 also interested in low light info and how good the f1.8 aperture is doing :)
The best reviewer I’ve seen. I’m surprised the video quality is not better than your video of the Canon G1X mk III, the colors and sharpness looked amazing on that one! May be the indoor lighting plus the g1x III larger sensor. Excellent review as usual!
Not impressed with the AF, in the 1080p mode it looks fuzzy and soft, low contrast and washed out. The 4K mode looked better but nothing special.
I know what you mean. I thought it was a bit soft too, and not sure if that was focus, higher ISO or something else. I'll be doing more tests.
You have fantastic concentration. Lol. Thanks Gordon. That was helpful.
Thanks and you're very welcome!
wow i dont know how you do it
review a camera in such a crowded place ahah
so funny to see all the people looking at you like : EH?
Finally canon has listened. could you also do a video on that youtube livestream feature? It would be awesome to see the jump in quality.
Simple question do u recommend buying this ? Over the mark ii? Or u think mark ii will do? :) answer pls!
If you want 4k or the mic input or wifi streaming then get the Mark III. If not, then get the Mark II.
Awesome, man! And i admire how good you can ignore the people walking by around you. That is badass. Thnx for the info!
Thanks! You can see even more of that in my G7X vs G5X vs RX100 vlogging review!
Hello. Could you please make a video g7x mark ii vs. g7x mark iii
1080 looks soft as hek
4K looks soft!
WTF?
Plastic lenses ?
Another very good and comprehensive video. The sound of the lav mic sounds a little removed from the environment around you. I wonder if something like the Rode Video Micro would sound better. I also seemed to be hearing something that I might have put down as wind noise had you not been inside, so I assume that is a bit of clothing rustle. Of course, the amount of room tone you include is down to personal taste so this is not really a criticism. Just a comment. Thanks again.
I'll be trying some more mics with it in my final review...
Audio always comes first in video and by having an audio jack in the G7X MKIII is the game-changer over the sony
Yes, audio is very important...
Man you are great at this! Keep up the good work man
Thanks!
Mic jack is fabulous but image is not that great.
Wait so 24/25p is available in 4K?
Danny Winget not 24 25 is however
Thanks Gordon. Is there a time limit for 4K video recording?
Yep, 10 mins per clip.
You can not do a test when you extend 1080p to 4k, make a video of the original FHD test
Good video, awkward location.
Great review. I am sure the mic input is the ultimate choice over the face detect.
Can I see volume levels of external/internal mic on the screen?
please show us how to use the camera and what camera settings are best
Thank you Gordon. This video was great. It was informative as well as entertaining.
I have a question.
I want to use the camera to produce some 3 to 4 minute videos in my home office for my clients and of course the wider wold.
I have just bought the G7X and I am not a very experienced with cameras or with making video
I will sit about 2 metres from the camera and 1 metre behind me is black backdrop.
Therefore, the distance from the camera to the black backdrop is about 3 metres.
I have some softbox lights and also some LED lights.
I will have the camera on a tripod.
I will use 4K but for no other reason than people have told me it's the best.
The question: Do I put the dial on top of the camera to auto or to movie?
I realise this might be a rather basic question but this is the level I'm up to.
Thank you Gordon.
Mark.
Hi Mark, glad you're enjoying the videos! Most cameras let you start recording video from any mode BUT generally unlock more control or features if they are on the movie mode. Canon for example may not even let you film in 4k unless you're not in movie mode on some models. Beware shooting in 4k on this model as the clip length becomes shorter and it's quicker to overheat.
Hey gordon how does the autofocus on the g7x mk 3 compare to the g7x mk 2? Is it better or worse
The Mark III's auto focus is actually worse than the Mark II. My Mark II doesn't seem to struggle much like the Mark III does.
Raichu595 man thats so sad that theyd not only not improve the auto focus but make it worse idk why theyd give it such good features then cripple it with the af
Paul Mayorga I understand exactly what you mean. I wasn’t the only one having issues with the auto focus either. I’ve seen quite a few other reviews mention it as well. Maybe it’s just a software bug and an update can hopefully fix it!
@@Raichu595 hopefully like ive had the 1st and 2nd g7x and its just sad they came up short on the 3rd hopefully it is just a software issue and they address it quicky because i know the second the rx100 mk7 hits the stores i feel like its all over for the g7x
Paul Mayorga I wish they also would’ve included 4K at 60fps cause I really wanted to capture some slow mo in 4K! But overall I decided that I’ll be stick with my Mark II until it doesn’t work anymore. I love that camera so much!😅
Thank you for your informative videos! Been looking into a couple different cameras and your videos are helping me compare them all. Cheers! :)
Now there is finally the microphone plug, but no hot shoe for the microphone. You can not believe that. Thankfully, Canon does not build cars. Although they have a steering wheel, but no seats. And the following model then has seats, but no doors and only 3 wheels. Holy shit, but we were lucky that Canon only builds cameras.
maybe they didn't think of it to be convenient with the flip screen and also hot shoe being somewhat weird to have only as a mount without any other functionality.
but i hear you... makes me want to glue a hot shoe there. mic is the biggest feature (against other similar 1" enthusiast compacts) that this camera has to offer and why i have waited for it for years...
now we need a cage or plate for the mic, or bolt it under the camera. i guess it'll do.
The lack of hotshoe may seem annoying, but it is quite easy to work around. You could also use a wired lav.
They will not add a hot shoe so that few vloggers can hook a microphone in it. Hot shoes are for flashes.
@@cameralabs Yes. You can also attach an accessory rail, but then always has extra stuff. And that's exactly what I really do not want with a compact camera. And why does the G7X III only has a 100mm lens, but the G5X II goes up to 120 mm, no one really knows. That's not solved very intelligently.
@@okaro6595 true but the shoe mount doesn't necessarily need to be hot. think of video cameras... they're perfect for mics.
but especially while vlogging the mic would be in front of the flip screen, and depending on the mic prevent it from being flipped.
Crazy but I’m not getting any 4K option. I’m recording on a U3 card that does 4K on my other cameras. Am I missing something?
The image on this gives me the impression that it was shot on a camera with a much larger sensor, its def closer to a premium dslr like quality to it but you cant swap the lenses which sucks.
4K looks meh. AF seems ok. No 24p is a no-go for a U.S. camera. At least you can have 25p in Europe.
Thank you for considering a vlogging test Gordon
How do you pause it
Hi, thank you for the post, do you remember what iso was used for filming the 1080p footage?
2x crop no.... way.... the af is good..... Cannon is going to be yonks behind Sony now.... So the G7x has a floppy screen and a mic.... is it worth it.... might as well get the M50.... only other thing now is live you tube......
Awesome
Thank you! Great video!
interesting cam and as always great preview. love your book, keep it up´n thank you !
Thanks, and glad you liked my book!
4k much better. External mic much better.
I still thought the video was a bit soft, but I'll be doing lots more tests.