ENTJs are more urgent about getting things done. ESTPs do not show off as loudly as ENTJs. ENTJs are stereotypically very macho. ENTJs admire the Bo Jacksons, Mickey Mantles, and Madonnas of the world. ENTJs have a lot of love and respect for badass people. ESTPs have repressed emotions. ENTJs' emotions spill out like crazy sometimes. Third function Fe results in ESTPs being very talkative and friendly. ESTPs enjoy learning for the sake of learning. ENTJs only want to obtain information that will help them achieve a goal.
As an INTP it's trippy how I relate to the TPs and the NTs almost equally but at different times. Nii's mental models thing reminds me of my own obsession with memetics and/or epistemology. And the TP's discussion of power dynamics and authority (Anarchist theory, really) resonates strongly as well.
That was an excellent panel- I really admire all five of them in different ways. My less emotional Se twins and my Te child heroes in the ENTJ. Awesomeness all around.
Being an Infj, I feel I can improvise very well, but than everyting must be orderly and wel organized, and as long as I have all the information I need, and feel up to the task🤣 very on the moment, maar niet heus😅 but I have an estp son amd and entj son. When younger their behaviour looked one and the same. But getting older they are puzzeld sometimes about there differences. Estp is adhd and the entj add both are doing very well and they are in a business together, and because of there differences both do what they do best. Estp does all the money and the growing of the business and the other organizes al the werk and does the schedules makes sure the work is done in time and high quality! They are sometimes irritated with eachothers functions, like the estp doing to much and forgetting appointments. And the entj being to unchangeble wanting things done his supreme way. But in the end it still works out. Really nice to see other entj and estp
This was such an interesting panel! Kat sounds like my late ENTJ father when she talks, I was very delighted. Adjectives that were used to describe my ENTJ dad when he was still alive: -intense -intentional -intimidating -solar-powered (?? sorry it's hard to translate to English) -restless?? He used to be an agricultural technician//engineer and would get his best ideas while in the middle of tilling the soil under the sun and taking care of the farm. He had so many JOURNALS. So much learned through this panel, thank you again, Joyce! :D
@@sirbradfordofhousejones his journals were introspection and business plans and scheduling rolled together. Very surprised when I found them. He started around his university years and just kept it up as a means of destressing.
@@self7341 my dad does exercise journals, tracks all of his summer chores (former teacher), has lists of all of his favorite things, etc. They sound pretty similar!
I've seen you in 1 or 2 interviews & I think your type ESFP seems really good with being attentive, social & generally empathic, warm & fun. ExFPs have something that the thinker types don't always have or present. Fi is an intelligence in itself.
This was a very intriguing conversation to listen in on. I've been trying to figure out the difference between Se and Te since it's been mentioned many times that they appear very similarly. Their action-orientedness is very hard to distingush without diving deeper into the cognition behind the action. There were so many interesting points in the discussion that it would be too difficult (and long-winded 😅) for me to note them all in writing. I learned a lot from what you all had to say. Thank you so much for sharing!
They are so cool! Gosh Ni-Se axis is so cool🥺 I would give away my si in a heartbeat lol Te dom is who I imagine myself to be when planning. (Overestimate my efficiency lol) Se dom is who I am in my dream 😴 (what’s reality anyway?) This is really interesting and informative! 😊 thanks!
@@cass8330 exactly... I think is more like -I want to light my smoke- searches around and the only thing that makes fire nearby is a torch (he's in his garage anyway) therefore he takes the torch and uses it... mission accomplished.
Also, there are different types of image management. I think it's kind of silly to say that anyone is 100% yay or nay. For instance the image management of wanting to look affluent or wanting to look attractive or wanting to look sensible and professional.
Interesting conversation: I'm an ENTJ 835 (tritype). My axis Ni-Se is really high. My Te and Ti are very similar. I'm an sexual 8. Some sexual 8 are identified as ESTP (more than ENTJ). It's interesting that I feel more identified with the ESTP 8 than ENTJ 3 on your video. ;-)
24:52 - Exactly. Very interesting to hear what it actually implies. It is very interesting. Most people seriously don't know what they are doing, and thinking, and why that is so. Nice to hear and see that you aren't completely brainwashed guys!!
Great! By the way, I am holding a female ESTP panel soon, and you are free to join. :) It is happening on Wednesday, November 10th at 8 PM EST. If you would like to join, email me at joycemeng22@gmail.com!
They seem alike cause SE Dom (use SE masterfully) and SE Child (more childlike use) are both optimistic so NJs and SPs use SE very visibly - also both types are direct and don‘t value emotions as highly
I really disagree with time estimation, which is basically... one of my kryptonites. I at times don't like too much structure just because I can't figure everything into the right time-frame. Things are so off that things I think will take 5 minutes take at least half an hour or more. It just doesn't work because the task needs to be done in it's entirety, and that is going to take however long it's going to take. But also, I value structure in my day to get things done, and boy am I not going to cram 8 hours into 2 (I do think that's lazy). I just don't... always value deadlines because things take how long they take.
After I watch the end of this episode, I thought upon Kate saying she hides her deeper things in her life. Is this because on a subconscious level, she know how easily information can be used to manipulate people?
I think it is! I'm very careful about what people know about me because I know how little pieces of info can be used to hurt you. I also hate people misrepresenting me even if it's in a positive light.
@@TypeMatch dear Kate as a 73 year old woman, I was so impressed with you ability to holding your own with the Alpha on the panel. I recognize, your 8 ability to go to innocent and feel vulnerable to destructive injustice brought about by people who don’t give a shit about damage and destruction their greed gluttony and lust for money and power cause. ❤️🙏
I think I could be an entj, I agree with everything Kat and Nii said! But I’ve gotten estj/intj/istj as well and I just wanna figure out which one I really am :/ I’ve read all of the descriptions and they all are very similar to me weirdly enough!
Haha I meant all I see on tik tok is conspiracy theory videos bc their algorithm figured out I'll watch for an hour if that's what they show me. So far I only share my theories with my boyfriend but maybe youtube needs a little love too 😉
I’d love to hear about ENTJ enneagram 7 thoughts on conspiracy theories/ real things going on probably talking it out with flow state. I feel like an entj that likes Estp/infj. Like I’d rather be seen as Estp but my why feels off.
Btw, I wonder how you coordinate type talks with other people. Like event organizing, but you pick out the stage panelists... Like, suppose you wanted just one of each NT type, in an NT group video or something, how do you 1) pick out the people, cycling between your rolodex, but only getting one person from each type on for that "chair slot" and 2) how do you deal with people not showing up? (is there a backup panelist system? Like, in case person C doesn't show up, i have C1 to replace them) In essence, what is your event planning workflow for these vids? (extra: And what are the most beneficial pivot-jump-tweak-upgrades that you've made since starting that contribute to the current quality of these vids?)
Good question, @BurgerSandwich! I pick people based on their availability and if it's just a single participant representing their type I try my best to vet them beforehand. When someone does not show up, I message them again and try to find a replacement or I end up changing the video topic. There's no back up panelist system. All in all, that's my event planning process! :)
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I love when joyce gets flustered trying to compliment everyone while ending the panel on time 😂
Did somebody say "great deal on a generator?" 👀 -istj
🤣🤣👍 You, Taylor and Kate would be great apocalypse buddies.
@@JoyceMeng22 GHahhah!
Ah i always used to get mistyped as ENTJ I’m definitely ESTP. We’re so different but we might appear similar. Thanks for the content!
Yes! ESTPs get mistaken for being Te dominants all the time! Happy you enjoyed. :)
ENTJs are more urgent about getting things done.
ESTPs do not show off as loudly as ENTJs.
ENTJs are stereotypically very macho.
ENTJs admire the Bo Jacksons, Mickey Mantles, and Madonnas of the world.
ENTJs have a lot of love and respect for badass people.
ESTPs have repressed emotions.
ENTJs' emotions spill out like crazy sometimes.
Third function Fe results in ESTPs being very talkative and friendly.
ESTPs enjoy learning for the sake of learning.
ENTJs only want to obtain information that will help them achieve a goal.
The two types I probably admire the most as a fascinating panel, awesome
As an INTP it's trippy how I relate to the TPs and the NTs almost equally but at different times. Nii's mental models thing reminds me of my own obsession with memetics and/or epistemology. And the TP's discussion of power dynamics and authority (Anarchist theory, really) resonates strongly as well.
I think I'm an ENTJ, but then they mentioned ENTJs not being distractible, so I got really confused. I'm very distractible.
That was an excellent panel- I really admire all five of them in different ways. My less emotional Se twins and my Te child heroes in the ENTJ. Awesomeness all around.
Being an Infj, I feel I can improvise very well, but than everyting must be orderly and wel organized, and as long as I have all the information I need, and feel up to the task🤣 very on the moment, maar niet heus😅 but I have an estp son amd and entj son. When younger their behaviour looked one and the same. But getting older they are puzzeld sometimes about there differences. Estp is adhd and the entj add both are doing very well and they are in a business together, and because of there differences both do what they do best. Estp does all the money and the growing of the business and the other organizes al the werk and does the schedules makes sure the work is done in time and high quality! They are sometimes irritated with eachothers functions, like the estp doing to much and forgetting appointments. And the entj being to unchangeble wanting things done his supreme way. But in the end it still works out. Really nice to see other entj and estp
Excellent insights from ESTPs. ❤ISFP
This was such an interesting panel! Kat sounds like my late ENTJ father when she talks, I was very delighted.
Adjectives that were used to describe my ENTJ dad when he was still alive:
-intense
-intentional
-intimidating
-solar-powered (?? sorry it's hard to translate to English)
-restless??
He used to be an agricultural technician//engineer and would get his best ideas while in the middle of tilling the soil under the sun and taking care of the farm. He had so many JOURNALS.
So much learned through this panel, thank you again, Joyce! :D
Yes! My ENTJ dad is obsessed with journals. That’s actually part of the reason I realized he was an ENTJ. Kat reminds me a ton of him, as well.
@@sirbradfordofhousejones his journals were introspection and business plans and scheduling rolled together. Very surprised when I found them. He started around his university years and just kept it up as a means of destressing.
@@self7341 my dad does exercise journals, tracks all of his summer chores (former teacher), has lists of all of his favorite things, etc. They sound pretty similar!
Joyce I absolutely love your podcast. Your ability to keep the video interesting and on track is awesome ❤️
Thank you so much! You are a sweetie, Dianna.
Oooooo this one will be very interesting!!! The two types I wish I was more like haha
Se vs Te will be fascinating to watch
I've seen you in 1 or 2 interviews & I think your type ESFP seems really good with being attentive, social & generally empathic, warm & fun. ExFPs have something that the thinker types don't always have or present. Fi is an intelligence in itself.
Thank so much Joyce ! I was waiting to see ESTP&ENTJ video
Great! Hope you liked watching them interact, @EVA 3! =]
Wow! This chat was so helpful. Thank you, everyone, for being so insightful and clarifying.
Thank you, nice to know the video was helpful! :)
This was a very intriguing conversation to listen in on. I've been trying to figure out the difference between Se and Te since it's been mentioned many times that they appear very similarly. Their action-orientedness is very hard to distingush without diving deeper into the cognition behind the action. There were so many interesting points in the discussion that it would be too difficult (and long-winded 😅) for me to note them all in writing. I learned a lot from what you all had to say. Thank you so much for sharing!
They are so cool! Gosh Ni-Se axis is so cool🥺 I would give away my si in a heartbeat lol
Te dom is who I imagine myself to be when planning. (Overestimate my efficiency lol)
Se dom is who I am in my dream 😴 (what’s reality anyway?)
This is really interesting and informative! 😊 thanks!
How can you be more casual to light a smoke with a torch during an online interview? LOL
I think it's just that they don't care.. But not in a bad or deliberate way..
@@cass8330 exactly... I think is more like -I want to light my smoke- searches around and the only thing that makes fire nearby is a torch (he's in his garage anyway) therefore he takes the torch and uses it... mission accomplished.
@@joakas1986 I'm sorry I misread you
So cool and nice! Thank you very much! There are many parallels to my own life ...even if we as Estps actually want to reveal little 😀
Also, there are different types of image management. I think it's kind of silly to say that anyone is 100% yay or nay. For instance the image management of wanting to look affluent or wanting to look attractive or wanting to look sensible and professional.
I am an entj I need a framework if not I'm kinda lost as long I have a frame work I can adapt. I really taught I was an estp.
31:21 is a very good example
Frankly as a TE dom I don’t feel wired to care about what’s going on around me vs. being future focused
Kat has great style 🌷
Interesting conversation: I'm an ENTJ 835 (tritype). My axis Ni-Se is really high. My Te and Ti are very similar. I'm an sexual 8. Some sexual 8 are identified as ESTP (more than ENTJ). It's interesting that I feel more identified with the ESTP 8 than ENTJ 3 on your video. ;-)
24:52 - Exactly. Very interesting to hear what it actually implies. It is very interesting. Most people seriously don't know what they are doing, and thinking, and why that is so.
Nice to hear and see that you aren't completely brainwashed guys!!
As another ESTP from KC... I agree on many levels/politically as well.. Good topics here
Great! By the way, I am holding a female ESTP panel soon, and you are free to join. :) It is happening on Wednesday, November 10th at 8 PM EST. If you would like to join, email me at joycemeng22@gmail.com!
20:18 Right oooon guys!!
We love getting our Ni complemented lol
1:06:10 and around, back and going forward. Yes!
They seem alike cause SE Dom (use SE masterfully) and SE Child (more childlike use) are both optimistic so NJs and SPs use SE very visibly - also both types are direct and don‘t value emotions as highly
I really disagree with time estimation, which is basically... one of my kryptonites. I at times don't like too much structure just because I can't figure everything into the right time-frame. Things are so off that things I think will take 5 minutes take at least half an hour or more. It just doesn't work because the task needs to be done in it's entirety, and that is going to take however long it's going to take. But also, I value structure in my day to get things done, and boy am I not going to cram 8 hours into 2 (I do think that's lazy). I just don't... always value deadlines because things take how long they take.
My Ti feels indulged by all of these logic. T's people are my guilty pleasure
After I watch the end of this episode, I thought upon Kate saying she hides her deeper things in her life. Is this because on a subconscious level, she know how easily information can be used to manipulate people?
I think it is! I'm very careful about what people know about me because I know how little pieces of info can be used to hurt you. I also hate people misrepresenting me even if it's in a positive light.
@@TypeMatch dear Kate as a 73 year old woman, I was so impressed with you ability to holding your own with the Alpha on the panel. I recognize, your 8 ability to go to innocent and feel vulnerable to destructive injustice brought about by people who don’t give a shit about damage and destruction their greed gluttony and lust for money and power cause. ❤️🙏
@@diannarowlands3784 thank you so much ☺️ this made my day
Estps are just way cool man!!
I wish I was like that more..!!
I think I could be an entj, I agree with everything Kat and Nii said! But I’ve gotten estj/intj/istj as well and I just wanna figure out which one I really am :/ I’ve read all of the descriptions and they all are very similar to me weirdly enough!
I’ve gotten all 4* just to clarify!
You could sign up for a typing with Joyce or interact with typology twitter.
I'm not on TikTok, but feel free to share your conspiracy theories on TH-cam, Kate👍
Haha I meant all I see on tik tok is conspiracy theory videos bc their algorithm figured out I'll watch for an hour if that's what they show me. So far I only share my theories with my boyfriend but maybe youtube needs a little love too 😉
Not Taylor, hu? Only Kate's conspiracy theories are interesting?? I see how it is with you...
Ngl when I read the title of this video I was expecting some Chess Boxing.
I’d love to hear about ENTJ enneagram 7 thoughts on conspiracy theories/ real things going on probably talking it out with flow state. I feel like an entj that likes Estp/infj. Like I’d rather be seen as Estp but my why feels off.
An INFJ and ESTP married that’s rare
Not that this is related, but daniel and susan are look alike each other. Their faces are similar
41:20 Haha, I am playing it right NOW dude!Aoe 2, online. It is very popular nowadays again ;D
@PressieAMVs Yeah man! You too? How long?
Btw, I wonder how you coordinate type talks with other people. Like event organizing, but you pick out the stage panelists... Like, suppose you wanted just one of each NT type, in an NT group video or something, how do you 1) pick out the people, cycling between your rolodex, but only getting one person from each type on for that "chair slot" and 2) how do you deal with people not showing up? (is there a backup panelist system? Like, in case person C doesn't show up, i have C1 to replace them)
In essence, what is your event planning workflow for these vids? (extra: And what are the most beneficial pivot-jump-tweak-upgrades that you've made since starting that contribute to the current quality of these vids?)
Good question, @BurgerSandwich! I pick people based on their availability and if it's just a single participant representing their type I try my best to vet them beforehand. When someone does not show up, I message them again and try to find a replacement or I end up changing the video topic. There's no back up panelist system. All in all, that's my event planning process! :)
@@JoyceMeng22 What's your vetting process?
ENTJ T 851