Both KK and Kai are groundbreaking in their own ways. Kairi was “the stern advocate” of assassins no matter the meta, and Kingkong was the embodiment of every way a jungler could help his team power up.
During Prime Kairi, he was already doing great, performing well individually. Onic PH was dominant on M3 Upper Bracket, just losing (that badly) to Blacklist in the Grand Finals. Wolf was right - Kairi did really shine outside Philippines where junglers aren't as aggressive and dominant. Not sh/tting Indo junglers, but Kairi did show them how powerful PH junglers are, and so he really did outshine most Indo teams. But if he stayed in PH, I don't think he'd be this great. Prime KarlTzy still the best jungler for me. But between Kairi and Kingkong? Kingkong isn't in his prime yet. He'll grow stronger for sure.
I think fans only pick kairi because of 2 highlights game that he executed well. But for me, that is not enough to call someone as the best jungler you need a result for that and kingkong gets the result. But if king kong wins msc and even m7, then that should seal the debate on who’s better jungler.
i would say its kingkong, even venus during blacklist era said that dont let kingkong pick assasin especially fanny during his TNC days coz he gave them so much pressure compared to other junglers. Not just assasin, KK is good with utility too which made him better jungler.
It clearly said...Kairi is source of inspiration for Kingkong...U guys start comparing them and everyone give personal opinion.Just let them be themself,both of then is great.As sonic,we are happy for both of them FNOC and FNOP.At the end of the day,we just enjoy the game till gone.Nothing last forever but yet we just gratefull we can see those are great on their era.
KingKong is the mix of Kairi and Karltzy, he is both good as team player and individually player. if we assume that Kairi is 100% in being individual player and Karltzy 100% in being team player, Kingkong is like 95% in both categories.
NA🇺🇸 BTK MOBAZANE WITH VERY VERY LIMITED HERO POOL BUT WANTED ALL THE ATTENTION AS A JUNGLER LIKE ONIC KAIRI, SO HE WILL CONTINUE TO LEAD BTK PLAYING FRED AKAI AND ALPHA TO WIN MSC AND M7 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP
Idol ko rin si Kairi dati pero parang napagiiwanan na siya. Tama yung sabi ni Wolf na madami nga siyang highlights (outside PH nga lang). He will only prove that he is the greatest if he wins MPL PH (or M series).
Winning a championship should be the metric of who is better than the other! At this point IMO Karltzy, Wise, Kyletzy, KK>Kairi. I put King Kong over Kai because for me winning the MPL PH and M series has more weight than winning the MPL Indo and MSC. Just like in actual sports, what separates the greats from the others are championships, not the highlights. Everyone can have a video showcasing their skills but not everyone can win a championship. From M3 to M5, all the PH junglers Kairi faced during those times were better than him and not even close, especially when using utility junglers.
@@DRAV111 kairi started to look good only becuz he went to a trash server🤦 kairi had dlar, baloy, marky and hate and still cant win against blck......
@@randomguy7863id like you to repeat what you said because kairi was carrying his deadweight team in s8 and m3 he was going toe to toe vs prime wise and even outmanuvering him multiple times only for his deadbeat team to play trash in m3
@@ruzero deadweight?? All of onic ph were in their primes or atleast not deadweight 🤦 that onic ph ran through everyone during m3 and all of them choked during the grandfinals🤡 if you talking about a deadbeat team then that started in indog server 😂😂 at the end of the day, if kairi cant win a Mseries, thenhe is just a chris paul/carmelo anthon type player, all hype but no NBA championship🤡
That is a very poor metric to decide who is better since it only showcases a person’s micro unlike in a normal setting wherein they can showcase their micro, macro and decision making which are crucial for junglers.
prime kairi: tank meta and his using assassin with tank build or hybrid thats why its hard to kill him because of the different of meta back then and now the patch changes every thing meanwhile. prime kingkong: assassin and marksman meta. and his using assassin with full damage and has crazy mechanic,timing and decision making and compared to meta and patch before and now its hard to make a highlights now because assassin is easily get kill. skypiercer and maleficgun alone is pretty O.P !!! and as example is MSC 2024 changing to assassin meta ONIC ID didn't even make it to the knockout...
What tank assassins u talkin bout ? Only lance was played as a tank that time , ling fanny haya ,just playing haya that good when he wasn't even picked in international stage is huge diff The meta currently serving the assassins ,at least the last international tournament , it's now more for a mm meta with all these adjusts
bro are you even watchibg mpl id season 12 and 13 ? or are you talking about is msc 2023? because season 12 and 13 is a tank meta and kairi is not only using assassin with tank build or hybrid like benedetta,lance he also use tank like akai,fred, and also use fighter like guinivere,dyrroth... you didn't even understand what im saying you just dont accept the fact that there are still player out there that can match kairi and the fact that kingkong is not done with his era yet...
@Wiserplays2 bro before commenting on to what i said read and understand it first the context is prime kairi vs prime kingkong not the international stage and i said prime kairi is different back then and now because back then is tank meta compare to now become assassin and then marksman are you even understand the different patch before and now????
Definitely K1NGKONG, I've been watching this shi since Pein was the top jungler😅 ain't seen someone jungle like him. Kairi is definitely great, but these "newwave" junglers are different.
Its not even a debate, KingKong is a World Champion, kairi is not. Don't even compare kairi to faker, faker was a mid laner, kairi was jungle and faker was a world champion, kairi is not.
kingkong idolized kairi,,even sekeys,,wtch the intrview,,kingkong said wht he achieved now is bcause he learned somuch from prime kaire,,entervier even said,,kingkong or kairi? i'll picked kairi,,kong said.
If I compared kai n keng played, kairi is beast. I saw all his tournament play is insane like haya, lance is crazy. And I did not see that from kengkong.
Kairi might have a lot of highlights and won an MSC but Kingkong won the M6 without dropping a series with the most dominant fashion way. Totally one for the books!
Kelra did become the best gold laner after m6, many already considered him(specially those from PH) as the best even before m6(still kelra said it himself, he cannot claim the moniker of being the "Gold Standard, if he didn't achieve the things that he just did this m6). And with that in mind Kairi, is still not the best Jungler, it is still Karltzy, Kairi will edge Karl out if he did win his m series(and even at that, it will still be a debate since Karl have 2), but that is still an "if". An M series championship will always outweight any other accomplishments, specially in Karl's case in which he win 2 alongside other accolades. Unless Kairi wins his m series, he will always be under those who did won it, like Karl, Wise, Kyle, and now Kingkong. But we also need to give credit where credit is due, Kairi is probably the most mechanically gifted jungler in his prime, the only player that can come close when it comes to assasin would be current Kingkong and Karltzy's lancelot in m2(and only for his lancelot).
No way Faker is G.O.A.T in league of legends dont compare to kairi he even won a world championship Faker wins numerous world championship He can walk the talk Kairi is just an ordinary player to me Kingkong won world championship kairi is not he(kingkong) is better than the face of mlbb(kairi)even though he has more mpl championship so what he cannot carry his team to championship Like And Share Done
Wow! He actually compared kairi to faker. The level of game difficulty from ML to LOL is like high-school basketball and nba basketball. Guy has no idea at all. I don't think kairi can even reach challenger if he plays lol in korea.
Nah, if MLBB is easy, why can't Koreans excel?! LOL is a pc game wherein MLBB is a mobile game. Both games require exceptional skill set. It's like a never ending debate between soccer and football.
@@threedee3493KOREANS don't play MLBB cause their is no market for that game in their country idiiiot . Go watch PUBGM , PUBG , VALO and other games where they are dominating dumbbbasss .
@threedee3493 koreans don't play mlbb. I play ml and reach mythical immortal rank with Just over 500 games. I played lol before and grinded as much as i can as i wan't to reach higher rank but i only got to diamond, barely. That's like epic rank in mlbb. When you stop playing Ml for one year or more then you start playing again, you are still a good player. You stop playing lol for 1 month, you are like u have no idea how to play that game again. That's how complex it is. Take it from someone who plays both. And ph actually has lol team before and they can't even compete in the SEA region. And SEA region has never won against korean teams in lol.
IMO kairi prime will shine no matter where he was, he's not only good in mpl id but international stage and also againts top ph team. if he was in mpl ph, yes he would be better.... at using fredrinn and baxia but the other ph junglers are the one that would be better just like kingkong, for now i think kingkong still not in prime, his road since mpl into M6 was just too smooth with only 2 lose, i think he can be way better if next season mpl teams can give more pressure to fnop
If kairi is better than kingkong why did he leave ph to get mpl title on id?on the otherhand kingkong try harder and never give-up untill he gets crown in mpl ph🤷♂️now see which one is better🤣
K1ngKong for sure, the way he gaps his opponent in MPL PH those guys are Karl,Kyle and Demonkite he does it every game and he made them look like normal Junglers his playstyle is unique that you cant do what he does to you he knows when to trade jungle,objectives and kill his mechanics is also top tier that buying and selling are just normal thing to him even casters dont even see him do that cause he casually does it unlike when Kairi does it casters shouts like its the end of the world Lol. another measuring stick is Fabian look how dominant Fabian is against Kairi and look how K1ngkong just babied Favian
Ofcourse today i would pick kingkong bcoz of recent tourna, but to be honest kairi still a SSS tier jungler period, even fnoc didnt qualify to m6.. then prime kairi all the way for me over kingkong
kingkong is cleaner and his gameplay is less gambling, nowadays when his gamble plays are not working onic id is struggling meanwhile onic ph is barely lossing they are almost always winning so
Kairi was the champion in mpl id 4x in a row. Obviously he’s gonna be in international competition more than any other ph jungler. And you know the difference between mpl id and ph when it comes to competition. Kairi is good using assasin jungler but hes not even in top 3 when it comes to utility jungler. I would say the best jungler of all time is karltzy. He won 2 m series in 2 different meta.
Kairi's high value and huge following is an advantage, I'll take that versus an M series championship no matter what. Kingkong may have secured a trophy but kairi already secured his future.lol
@@Bcat1209 Well that's because he bailed to go to indo, good for him but it's not really something you need to put in your achievements. Kairi was good and he did become better in indo, but he did not win anything in PH, even after coming to indo the only major win he got was that MSC. Kairi been to M series for 3 straight times, 2 times grandfinals but he did not win it. It might sound great for attending 3 times in a row but even mirko said it, other indo teams were just not stepping up, thats why he wished for a different champ in s14.
Kairi can't even win championship in MPL PH, and even M Series, while king Kong never lose a match in M series, and got only 1 lose in MPL PH, how kairi became better than that???
no disrespect to kairi, but when we talked about best jungler we should also include the utility jungler meta not just assassin meta. Kairi is just good in assassin meta thats why i pick kingkong...kairi is not a threat without fanny and hayabusa.
Its KingKong for me and also younger than Kairi... Kingkong beat Karl, Kyle, Demonkite this year and its a huge gap... He also uses assasins differently go watch the gameplay maximizing the damage dealt just example watch his Ling Gameplay... Usual Jungler they do Skill Skill Skill Out etc.... Kingkong Skill Basic Skill Basic Skill Out In Ultimate etc.... His Farming is just way ahead... Macro is also for Kingkong Kairi freestyle display is better though...
Ha? Magiging better ka agad pag naka kuha ka ng m series? Anong utak yan? Eh si coco nga nakakuha ng m series 6th man lng yon di nga nag lalaro naka kuha pa ng trophy
Prime Kairi, he can do both tank and assasin jungle, he only lost coz Sanz can't thrive in assassins meta and yet, Indos think its Prime Sanz over Super Frince.
Ig Hoon doesnt watch Ph matches more, Karltzy Lance in m2 was Godly and Kingkong was doninating everyone in Mpl Ph with fanny one shotting tanks. Kairi is overglazed and hyped just cause of some outplay highlights even if he is one of the best people should look at all the core mechanics
Kairi went against prime echo prime blacklist prime ap bren and still stands toe to toe while having 4 indo teams kairi got his heroes banned prolly like 8/10 times he got invaded so hard enemies basically living in his jungle he plays his assasins as an equal against tank meta prime kairi> kingkong
Kingkong is more better he can play addressable. And create engaging on enemy jungle buff consistent. So for me kingkong is more better than kairi 👏🤜🤛🤲👑
They're wrong KK didn't stand out much more because all of fnop player are the best on their position unlike prime kairi and msc sekys they're the one who carrying their teams.
I still remember m5 finals. Kairi was the only 1 with winning mentality & his whole team mentally was crushed in last game 7. That bush check from kairi wasn't even his fault cz of that fckn waste draft from coach yeb. Tank jungle+ kadita pick soo waste against prime brody pick. & Coach yeb reached to ph to collect free award of onic ph m6 awards. Shameless. Ph are just better at hero draft. Otherwise kairi could have won m series too.
You know guys for me is kingkong, wolf is right! Ph is a lot jungler invaders you know! Wise beat kairi in M2,... kyletzy beat kyrie in M5... And now kinglong vs kairi? Kairi didnt even qualified in M6...kairi is great yeah, but in Philippines you cant tell whos the best jungler...as what wolf said theres a lot of invaders..... in my opinion for me the best jungler of all time still karl for now, but if we based in M6, ofcourse kingkong.
Stop comparing kairi to PH junglers , if kairi wants to be the greatest then he should back to PH and play there...let's see if he can invade junglers in PH, kairi is almost there becoming the greatest with prime markyy, baloyskie,dlar etc... but sadly wise invaded him 😅😅...don't forget that in the Philippines there's no best, but all PH player wanted to be the best...as what I've seen 😅
KingKong is obviously way better than Kairi. Kairi only moved to Indo because if he stayed in the Philippines he won't be able to show off his talents and showcase his skills playing against Filipino pro teams, because Filipino players are really good at defense, Objectives and way too scared to die in matches. So that 17-0 record from game to game and razzle dazzle moves by Kairi? That only happens with INDOS pro players and teams 🤣 but that never happened when he was still playing in the Philippines. When Kairi moved to Indo ofcourse you're gonna Idolize him because he's bullied so many Indo teams "ONLY INDO TEAMS" though and INDO thought he was a GOD of ML already. But he never even got noticed when he was still playing in Blacklist International PH. Well he had fans but mostly no one knew him way back 2020. So INDO's failed pro teams made KAIRI famous just to be honest. Imagine if Karltzy or even IRRAD moved to Indo also? They'd be a Gods there. It's like Mythical glory players playing against EPIC V players. But in the Philippines? They'll only be average pro players because they're playing against BEASTS and in INDO they're playing against PUPPIES. We only recognize champions here in the PH. So.... check your "Prime player picks" and check statistics more. He's only able to do a ridiculously good move because he's playing against really average players. Also stop saying "No one can beat" because you guys are clearly beaten easily and wrecked in every M series and barely even knocked us off from M1 even though our pro teams barely played ML because ML wasn't even famous back then so no one really wanted to Sponsor PH yet. Go back to this comment again to see that in M7? The champions will also be PH. 🤣
Both KK and Kai are groundbreaking in their own ways. Kairi was “the stern advocate” of assassins no matter the meta, and Kingkong was the embodiment of every way a jungler could help his team power up.
thats a conversation between two smart person who knows what they are taking about
When kingkong himself watched his gameplay to improve, u dont have to ask the question
Kelra watched and even ask for strong gold laner opinions on his gameplay. Thats what makes you better.
Doesn't mean kairi is greater than kk though... Best players always watch and studies other amazing players... That's what makes them great
Stupid opinion LOL.
K1ngkong = Fundamentals
Kairi = Highlights
KINGKONG achieved what KAIRI cant
Kairi got his assasins banned in the tank meta i think that speaks for itself
@@jospotato9790 and now we are in assassin meta where is kairi now?
@ its a team game stupid how can kairi carry 4 teammates.Onic’s current exp is mediocore
@@edflowwbecause Kairi carry his teammates…! Think about that bruh
During Prime Kairi, he was already doing great, performing well individually. Onic PH was dominant on M3 Upper Bracket, just losing (that badly) to Blacklist in the Grand Finals. Wolf was right - Kairi did really shine outside Philippines where junglers aren't as aggressive and dominant. Not sh/tting Indo junglers, but Kairi did show them how powerful PH junglers are, and so he really did outshine most Indo teams. But if he stayed in PH, I don't think he'd be this great. Prime KarlTzy still the best jungler for me.
But between Kairi and Kingkong?
Kingkong isn't in his prime yet. He'll grow stronger for sure.
I think fans only pick kairi because of 2 highlights game that he executed well. But for me, that is not enough to call someone as the best jungler you need a result for that and kingkong gets the result. But if king kong wins msc and even m7, then that should seal the debate on who’s better jungler.
Kairi = Ronaldo
Kingkong= Messi
@@danielCraig141how is kairi ronaldo with all the talent he has lmao. He is messi kingkong is ronaldo😊
Thats very them, I dont know why they are still comparing faker to junglers which faker is a mid laner hell nuh😂
YEAH TRUE DONT DEBATE KAIRI HAS NO M SERIES THE MOST PRESTIGIOUS ACCOLADES AS A MLBB PRO PLAYER
@@danielCraig141nope kiari has no M Series Kingkong has one shut up
i would say its kingkong, even venus during blacklist era said that dont let kingkong pick assasin especially fanny during his TNC days coz he gave them so much pressure compared to other junglers. Not just assasin, KK is good with utility too which made him better jungler.
It clearly said...Kairi is source of inspiration for Kingkong...U guys start comparing them and everyone give personal opinion.Just let them be themself,both of then is great.As sonic,we are happy for both of them FNOC and FNOP.At the end of the day,we just enjoy the game till gone.Nothing last forever but yet we just gratefull we can see those are great on their era.
M3 - Wise or Kairi?
M4 - Karl or Kairi?
M5 - Kyle or Kairi?
M6 - Kingkong or Kairi?
I like the fact that its only Kairi they chose to compare.
Kairi got nerf by sanz period. Its hard to concentrate when your face were itchy.
@@hondafitz damn 😂
KingKong is the mix of Kairi and Karltzy, he is both good as team player and individually player. if we assume that Kairi is 100% in being individual player and Karltzy 100% in being team player, Kingkong is like 95% in both categories.
Prime kaira no world championship, and Kingkong is still not his prime. That’s that.
Hoon is joke he loves kairi Hayabusa hahaha 😂
don't believe to hoon because Hoon is gay he loves kairi hahaha 😂
as a pilipino. kingkong is better M6 champion. kairi don't have M series championship so kingkong is better
@@a-qv8bkgot carried by kelra not like kairi can carry the 4 ai
@@a-qv8bkgot carried by kelra not like kairi can carry the 4 ai
NA🇺🇸 BTK MOBAZANE WITH VERY VERY LIMITED HERO POOL BUT WANTED ALL THE ATTENTION AS A JUNGLER LIKE ONIC KAIRI, SO HE WILL CONTINUE TO LEAD BTK PLAYING FRED AKAI AND ALPHA TO WIN MSC AND M7 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP
Both are Filipinos and that's already enough since Filipinos are pioneers for the Best MLBB achievements
Idol ko rin si Kairi dati pero parang napagiiwanan na siya. Tama yung sabi ni Wolf na madami nga siyang highlights (outside PH nga lang). He will only prove that he is the greatest if he wins MPL PH (or M series).
Winning a championship should be the metric of who is better than the other! At this point IMO Karltzy, Wise, Kyletzy, KK>Kairi. I put King Kong over Kai because for me winning the MPL PH and M series has more weight than winning the MPL Indo and MSC.
Just like in actual sports, what separates the greats from the others are championships, not the highlights. Everyone can have a video showcasing their skills but not everyone can win a championship.
From M3 to M5, all the PH junglers Kairi faced during those times were better than him and not even close, especially when using utility junglers.
We are taking about player not the team. Ronaldo still hasn't win World cup and messy only win it last year at the end of his retirement.
Imagine had a wrong opinion 😂😂😂
@@DRAV111 kairi started to look good only becuz he went to a trash server🤦 kairi had dlar, baloy, marky and hate and still cant win against blck......
@@randomguy7863id like you to repeat what you said because kairi was carrying his deadweight team in s8 and m3
he was going toe to toe vs prime wise and even outmanuvering him multiple times only for his deadbeat team to play trash in m3
@@ruzero deadweight?? All of onic ph were in their primes or atleast not deadweight 🤦 that onic ph ran through everyone during m3 and all of them choked during the grandfinals🤡 if you talking about a deadbeat team then that started in indog server 😂😂 at the end of the day, if kairi cant win a Mseries, thenhe is just a chris paul/carmelo anthon type player, all hype but no NBA championship🤡
The only thing to decide ,who is better player between them is to play 1 vs 1 in custom lobby 😊
Teamplayer is better MLBB is 5v5 not 1v1 😅
Yeah there should be one tournament like that 😂😂
That is a very poor metric to decide who is better since it only showcases a person’s micro unlike in a normal setting wherein they can showcase their micro, macro and decision making which are crucial for junglers.
prime kairi: tank meta and his using assassin with tank build or hybrid thats why its hard to kill him because of the different of meta back then and now the patch changes every thing
meanwhile.
prime kingkong: assassin and marksman meta. and his using assassin with full damage and has crazy mechanic,timing and decision making and compared to meta and patch before and now its hard to make a highlights now because assassin is easily get kill. skypiercer and maleficgun alone is pretty O.P !!! and as example is MSC 2024 changing to assassin meta ONIC ID didn't even make it to the knockout...
What tank assassins u talkin bout ? Only lance was played as a tank that time , ling fanny haya ,just playing haya that good when he wasn't even picked in international stage is huge diff
The meta currently serving the assassins ,at least the last international tournament , it's now more for a mm meta with all these adjusts
bro are you even watchibg mpl id season 12 and 13 ? or are you talking about is msc 2023? because season 12 and 13 is a tank meta and kairi is not only using assassin with tank build or hybrid like benedetta,lance he also use tank like akai,fred, and also use fighter like guinivere,dyrroth... you didn't even understand what im saying you just dont accept the fact that there are still player out there that can match kairi and the fact that kingkong is not done with his era yet...
@@akoayhacker362 u said tank assassin not tank jg ,only tankcelot was played that way ,and we talkin about the international stage
@Wiserplays2 bro before commenting on to what i said read and understand it first the context is prime kairi vs prime kingkong not the international stage and i said prime kairi is different back then and now because back then is tank meta compare to now become assassin and then marksman are you even understand the different patch before and now????
Definitely K1NGKONG, I've been watching this shi since Pein was the top jungler😅 ain't seen someone jungle like him. Kairi is definitely great, but these "newwave" junglers are different.
Idc if ur watching since dinosaur era, it doesn't make your statement correct, you narcissistic know it all
Prime Kairi is The best , but Prime KarlTzy in M2 hits Different . .
Its not even a debate, KingKong is a World Champion, kairi is not. Don't even compare kairi to faker, faker was a mid laner, kairi was jungle and faker was a world champion, kairi is not.
kingkong idolized kairi,,even sekeys,,wtch the intrview,,kingkong said wht he achieved now is bcause he learned somuch from prime kaire,,entervier even said,,kingkong or kairi? i'll picked kairi,,kong said.
Now I know why Kairi was devastated when he lost against GEEK.
He knew FNOP will win S14.
For clarification. Faker has already won 5 Worlds championships.
This clip was way before Faker won his 5th
@@mrdaljama16You think kairi is even close to what faker achieved or skills? It’s not even close
@@lizacorre5989 did you see me say that? No right? Then stop the drama.
@@lizacorre5989you my man are making an issue out of something unrelated because of your poor comprehension lmfao
Definitely Kairi no debate his plays won't age and so immaculate
Meanwhile MobaCry said he is better than Kairi 🤭
Do you understand sarcasm?
Kingkong is a World Champion and Kairi is not .Thats a difference
Because Kairi carry his teammates
If I compared kai n keng played, kairi is beast. I saw all his tournament play is insane like haya, lance is crazy. And I did not see that from kengkong.
"WHERE'S SESKYS" 🗣️🔥🔥🔥
(malay fans)
Kingkong for macro and map, awareness, kairi for mechanics and retri timing
Kairi might have a lot of highlights and won an MSC but Kingkong won the M6 without dropping a series with the most dominant fashion way. Totally one for the books!
Haha an elite player. Give kingkong teammates onic id will be champ.
Kairi during his M-Series he was facing prime BlackList ,Echo and APRN meanwhile kingkong facing some clowns what ua smoking bruh ....
Kelra did become the best gold laner after m6, many already considered him(specially those from PH) as the best even before m6(still kelra said it himself, he cannot claim the moniker of being the "Gold Standard, if he didn't achieve the things that he just did this m6). And with that in mind Kairi, is still not the best Jungler, it is still Karltzy, Kairi will edge Karl out if he did win his m series(and even at that, it will still be a debate since Karl have 2), but that is still an "if". An M series championship will always outweight any other accomplishments, specially in Karl's case in which he win 2 alongside other accolades. Unless Kairi wins his m series, he will always be under those who did won it, like Karl, Wise, Kyle, and now Kingkong. But we also need to give credit where credit is due, Kairi is probably the most mechanically gifted jungler in his prime, the only player that can come close when it comes to assasin would be current Kingkong and Karltzy's lancelot in m2(and only for his lancelot).
WYM accolades? Kairi never won in MPL PH 😂. Mechanically gifted, lol.
@FlyingDutch890 Fix your reading comprehension, you sound and looks so stupid right now.
The best jungler is me 😂😂
Hoon spitting facts
In the end, one fact remains. Kairi is Filipino.
Another one fact remains : Kaisi is a human
Hoon said the truth 🤘
Who is better prime Mobazane or washout Kairi?
No way Faker is G.O.A.T in league of legends dont compare to kairi he even won a world championship
Faker wins numerous world championship
He can walk the talk
Kairi is just an ordinary player to me
Kingkong won world championship kairi is not he(kingkong) is better than the face of mlbb(kairi)even though he has more mpl championship so what he cannot carry his team to championship
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True kairi skill level not even better than na league of legends players
Braindead ml community glazing these trash too much
competition wise on perpective region, I'd go for KK
Wow! He actually compared kairi to faker. The level of game difficulty from ML to LOL is like high-school basketball and nba basketball. Guy has no idea at all. I don't think kairi can even reach challenger if he plays lol in korea.
Yeah its hard thats why no one plays league😂
Yeah not even close in terms of achievement and skills it’s like an insult to even compare him lol
Nah, if MLBB is easy, why can't Koreans excel?! LOL is a pc game wherein MLBB is a mobile game. Both games require exceptional skill set. It's like a never ending debate between soccer and football.
@@threedee3493KOREANS don't play MLBB cause their is no market for that game in their country idiiiot . Go watch PUBGM , PUBG , VALO and other games where they are dominating dumbbbasss .
@threedee3493 koreans don't play mlbb. I play ml and reach mythical immortal rank with Just over 500 games. I played lol before and grinded as much as i can as i wan't to reach higher rank but i only got to diamond, barely. That's like epic rank in mlbb. When you stop playing Ml for one year or more then you start playing again, you are still a good player. You stop playing lol for 1 month, you are like u have no idea how to play that game again. That's how complex it is. Take it from someone who plays both. And ph actually has lol team before and they can't even compete in the SEA region. And SEA region has never won against korean teams in lol.
IMO
kairi prime will shine no matter where he was, he's not only good in mpl id but international stage and also againts top ph team. if he was in mpl ph, yes he would be better.... at using fredrinn and baxia
but the other ph junglers are the one that would be better just like kingkong,
for now i think kingkong still not in prime, his road since mpl into M6 was just too smooth with only 2 lose, i think he can be way better if next season mpl teams can give more pressure to fnop
For me kingkong dahil nakapagchamp sya di gaya ni kairi na msc lang at di nakapagchamp
M6 or MSC, MPL PH or MPL ID. Which is better
Huh ofcourse m6 mpl ph is to strong 🔥🔥🔥🔥
you picking 3 teams to beat fnop in m6 and failed miserably was better. 🤣
If kairi is better than kingkong why did he leave ph to get mpl title on id?on the otherhand kingkong try harder and never give-up untill he gets crown in mpl ph🤷♂️now see which one is better🤣
Everyone forget m2 karltzy
no hate but I think kairi needs to go back to ph to prove that. however it's okay if he stays in indo, he's already a great player.
Karltzy is the goat in the jungle he win world champion in 2 different team.
The Will of K
K1ngKong for sure, the way he gaps his opponent in MPL PH those guys are Karl,Kyle and Demonkite he does it every game and he made them look like normal Junglers his playstyle is unique that you cant do what he does to you he knows when to trade jungle,objectives and kill his mechanics is also top tier that buying and selling are just normal thing to him even casters dont even see him do that cause he casually does it unlike when Kairi does it casters shouts like its the end of the world Lol. another measuring stick is Fabian look how dominant Fabian is against Kairi and look how K1ngkong just babied Favian
Ofcourse today i would pick kingkong bcoz of recent tourna, but to be honest kairi still a SSS tier jungler period, even fnoc didnt qualify to m6.. then prime kairi all the way for me over kingkong
That's why tank meta created with big brain of veewise because I remember you can't assassin in ph easy to bully in season 10
kingkong is cleaner and his gameplay is less gambling, nowadays when his gamble plays are not working onic id is struggling meanwhile onic ph is barely lossing they are almost always winning so
hoon is gay he loves kairi hayabusa
Kairi is 👑 king he's solo play's was the best but team plays king kong is best
Kairi most mechanically skilled jungler.
KingKong most disciplined and consistent.
Kingkong won M series but Kairi was in M series final TWICE and won Msc, currently Kk is better but all time i’d say Kairi
Kairi was the champion in mpl id 4x in a row. Obviously he’s gonna be in international competition more than any other ph jungler. And you know the difference between mpl id and ph when it comes to competition. Kairi is good using assasin jungler but hes not even in top 3 when it comes to utility jungler. I would say the best jungler of all time is karltzy. He won 2 m series in 2 different meta.
Kairi's high value and huge following is an advantage, I'll take that versus an M series championship no matter what. Kingkong may have secured a trophy but kairi already secured his future.lol
Kingkong needed 1 Mseries to win a world championship while kairi cant win even tho he played during m3 m4 and m5
@@Bcat1209the topic is best jungler not whether they’re future is secured
@@Bcat1209 Well that's because he bailed to go to indo, good for him but it's not really something you need to put in your achievements. Kairi was good and he did become better in indo, but he did not win anything in PH, even after coming to indo the only major win he got was that MSC. Kairi been to M series for 3 straight times, 2 times grandfinals but he did not win it. It might sound great for attending 3 times in a row but even mirko said it, other indo teams were just not stepping up, thats why he wished for a different champ in s14.
I DONT REALLY CARE WHOS BETTER BUT BOTH OF THEM ARE FROM PH 💪
My bias: KARLTZY 👊👊👊
Faker has 5 world championship btw
Not a devate, KAIRI all the way
😂😂😂
Kairi can't even win championship in MPL PH, and even M Series, while king Kong never lose a match in M series, and got only 1 lose in MPL PH, how kairi became better than that???
devate daw? hahaha. Too ez if you do it in brawl server . Kairi was just an average JG in PH.
mechanic ill choose kairi but in macro is kingkong
KingKong is BETTER now.
4 peat in mpl ez brawl server who couldn't win worlds for 5 years.
yeah you can definitely say there's something wrong
no disrespect to kairi, but when we talked about best jungler we should also include the utility jungler meta not just assassin meta. Kairi is just good in assassin meta thats why i pick kingkong...kairi is not a threat without fanny and hayabusa.
Kyletzy vs Kairi were about the same. Kingkong destroyed Kyletzy in the reg season
Kairi can't win mpl pH and m- series..but king Kong win mpl pH then win m6..king Kong is much better..Indo mpl is ez brawl server😅
Facts
Chill out bro we r talking about individual skills not team ...prime kairi > kingkong
@@kaiOfficial710 prime kairi only good in micro...but in macro..more practice😅...in tank meta..kairi is just a normal pH jungler
Then how many mpl&MSc trophies did king Kong have?
This d rider forgot karlty
Its KingKong for me and also younger than Kairi...
Kingkong beat Karl, Kyle, Demonkite this year and its a huge gap...
He also uses assasins differently go watch the gameplay maximizing the damage dealt just example watch his Ling Gameplay...
Usual Jungler they do Skill Skill Skill Out etc....
Kingkong Skill Basic Skill Basic Skill Out In Ultimate etc....
His Farming is just way ahead...
Macro is also for Kingkong
Kairi freestyle display is better though...
People will say Kairi assasins best without watching Goldy Ling and Fanny plays of Kingkong. Only kids will say kairi has better Fanny then Kingkong
as a pilipino. kingkong is better M6 champion. kairi don't have M series championship so kingkong is better
Ha? Magiging better ka agad pag naka kuha ka ng m series? Anong utak yan? Eh si coco nga nakakuha ng m series 6th man lng yon di nga nag lalaro naka kuha pa ng trophy
Stupid question…! Kairi carry his teammates….! While kingkong doesn’t…!
Prime Kairi, he can do both tank and assasin jungle, he only lost coz Sanz can't thrive in assassins meta and yet, Indos think its Prime Sanz over Super Frince.
as a pilipino. kingkong is better
Ig Hoon doesnt watch Ph matches more, Karltzy Lance in m2 was Godly and Kingkong was doninating everyone in Mpl Ph with fanny one shotting tanks. Kairi is overglazed and hyped just cause of some outplay highlights even if he is one of the best people should look at all the core mechanics
Kairi or kingkong ? Sekys .
Dude. K1ngkong won m6. Stopyall 😂
Kairi went against prime echo prime blacklist prime ap bren and still stands toe to toe while having 4 indo teams kairi got his heroes banned prolly like 8/10 times he got invaded so hard enemies basically living in his jungle he plays his assasins as an equal against tank meta prime kairi> kingkong
Kairi stack indo server .no more MSC .PERIOD the best way good player bring team in MSC champ they see the highlights what ever..
Kingkong is more better he can play addressable. And create engaging on enemy jungle buff consistent. So for me kingkong is more better than kairi 👏🤜🤛🤲👑
Definitely k1ngkong.
*Good decision making
*Patient
*Objective
*Killing machine
*Team fight
Fundamentals ng 5v5❤
Kingkong is the only jungler on par with kairis skill. Ibang iba galawan nila kahit sa junglers ng bren at echo mas lamang silang 2.
He wouldn't get as much highlight, brother those highlights are against PH teams in M tourneys
Diwata pares is the Goat
They're wrong KK didn't stand out much more because all of fnop player are the best on their position unlike prime kairi and msc sekys they're the one who carrying their teams.
KINGKONG DEFINITELY IT HAS M SERIES AND SOON MSC KAIRI CANT WIN M SERIES SOME PEOPLE JUST HYPING KAIRI THATS WHY KINGKONG HAS A HIGH IQ IN MLBB
Kairi msc champ vs m6 champ kingkong 😂
Theyrr overhyping kyrie who can only play assasin heroes. And kyries doesnt even have achievements like the others. Only MSC? NAH
Bro 😂
Ayoo idol!!!
I'd go with Kairi.
Doesnt matter dude imagine being the best junglers are FILIPINOS so it just proves Ph is the strongest region.And just put Karltzy in there
Prime kairi always lost
Prime kingkong is just beginning but acchieved mseries early..
I still remember m5 finals. Kairi was the only 1 with winning mentality & his whole team mentally was crushed in last game 7. That bush check from kairi wasn't even his fault cz of that fckn waste draft from coach yeb. Tank jungle+ kadita pick soo waste against prime brody pick. & Coach yeb reached to ph to collect free award of onic ph m6 awards. Shameless. Ph are just better at hero draft. Otherwise kairi could have won m series too.
So they admit that kairi carry onic id and the 4 nubzzz😮😮😮😮😮
You know guys for me is kingkong, wolf is right! Ph is a lot jungler invaders you know! Wise beat kairi in M2,... kyletzy beat kyrie in M5...
And now kinglong vs kairi? Kairi didnt even qualified in M6...kairi is great yeah, but in Philippines you cant tell whos the best jungler...as what wolf said theres a lot of invaders..... in my opinion for me the best jungler of all time still karl for now, but if we based in M6, ofcourse kingkong.
Stop comparing kairi to PH junglers , if kairi wants to be the greatest then he should back to PH and play there...let's see if he can invade junglers in PH, kairi is almost there becoming the greatest with prime markyy, baloyskie,dlar etc... but sadly wise invaded him 😅😅...don't forget that in the Philippines there's no best, but all PH player wanted to be the best...as what I've seen 😅
Prime kairi but no M series champ. Duh
K1NGKONG.
IF ONID ID IS LIKE KAIRI ,,ONIC ID IS THE BEST TEAM BUT CWSANZ KIBIY BUTZ OUTPERFORM IN INT'L 😂😂😂
Fnop is the best team of all time. In MLBb history
compare first mpl ph vs mpl indo then decide
Kingkong is better than kairi.
KingKong is obviously way better than Kairi. Kairi only moved to Indo because if he stayed in the Philippines he won't be able to show off his talents and showcase his skills playing against Filipino pro teams, because Filipino players are really good at defense, Objectives and way too scared to die in matches. So that 17-0 record from game to game and razzle dazzle moves by Kairi? That only happens with INDOS pro players and teams 🤣 but that never happened when he was still playing in the Philippines. When Kairi moved to Indo ofcourse you're gonna Idolize him because he's bullied so many Indo teams "ONLY INDO TEAMS" though and INDO thought he was a GOD of ML already. But he never even got noticed when he was still playing in Blacklist International PH. Well he had fans but mostly no one knew him way back 2020. So INDO's failed pro teams made KAIRI famous just to be honest. Imagine if Karltzy or even IRRAD moved to Indo also? They'd be a Gods there. It's like Mythical glory players playing against EPIC V players. But in the Philippines? They'll only be average pro players because they're playing against BEASTS and in INDO they're playing against PUPPIES. We only recognize champions here in the PH. So.... check your "Prime player picks" and check statistics more. He's only able to do a ridiculously good move because he's playing against really average players. Also stop saying "No one can beat" because you guys are clearly beaten easily and wrecked in every M series and barely even knocked us off from M1 even though our pro teams barely played ML because ML wasn't even famous back then so no one really wanted to Sponsor PH yet. Go back to this comment again to see that in M7? The champions will also be PH. 🤣
Prime karl 🏆