Kipping’s Cool worlds channel has content that is literally unmatched by any other creator on TH-cam for the material. There are three or 4 videos that are simply masterpieces that cannot be challenged
@Jon Jingles “alright alright alright” 😂 much love to you all this is hilarity lol. “When you think worm holes…you think Lincoln. Buy Lincoln, be a lot cooler if you did.” -MaThEw DaMoN McCoNaLiNcOlN
I wonder sometimes if humanity's only realistic solution for reaching beyond the solar system is very large and relatively slow self contained colonies. Should the goal even be to reach another planet? Or should we just become nomads who set out with no destination in mind, drifting from star to star, scooping up asteroid belts for materials to sustain ourselves and build more artificial habitats. Occasionally letting the people who want to get off and settle the rare habitable world we might come across, knowing that they will forever be left behind and isolated from the rest of humanity, which is itself ever more fragmented as it slowly drifts apart.
Seeing that black holes can be mirrors like describe, could we find a black hole that's in line with Earth to give us a line-of-sight effective enough and get the timing down perfect relative to the distance of it to be able to see images that look you know sort of like distant space telescopic images or whatever but of Earth itself from the past?
@Radarink it has nothing to do with seeing through black holes, rube. Did you not watch the video? He very clearly said black holes can bend light in a complete 180 degrees and act as a mirror
You should check out the concept of a gravitational lens. It doesn't need to be black holes, objects with a lot of mass will bent light and therefore can act as a magnifying glass. This is already used in astronomy.
@@halbmalte it's like you know don't even paying attention! You're pissing me off! I know what gravitational lensing is, heezus effing kryst!!! This is the first time I ever heard it confirmed that the light to be lens in a complete 180 degrees. That's the whole point of the question! There needs to be a peripheral through this phone and smack you all around get you in line! I want to know if I can view Earth in the past with gravitational lensing if it's lined up and relative to the like if we can discover that perfect alignment. Freakin hell.... do not try to be helpful if you're not! It is way too cold here and I am way too grumpy about it. Keep putting up with it
That was a misleading title. David immediately stated that it was incorrect. You need to travel or send light to the nearest orbiting pair of black holes first, which would ne much farther away than the destination.
Space is massive, the thing is most of space is empty, the distance between stars is huge, hitting space dust or micrometeoroids would be an issue, but if you developed the engines and the ship, it is hoped they would have some type of plating or shields to offer protection.
Space is so vast that most of it is empty. It would be a very low odd of hitting anything in space. Another thing is if we are advanced enough to travel that fast and explore other planets in other galaxy, i'm sure we would have technology that could somehow possible detect various obstacles along the way from very very very far away and adjust course or we could have weapons strong enough to completely obliterate the obstacles or maybe we could have some shielding to protect it from radiation and various impacts.
Isn't alpha centari closer than the black hole that would be a futile journey I love to gaze at the universe but I got a few questions about it that doesn't make sense and I'd love it explained to me cause I think their wrong
I mean he also did say this method was more for a civilization already with systems over the galaxy. but using them as energy sources in-between places
so we would need to go relativistic speeds in order to get close enough to black holes so we can use the black holes to go relativistic speeds? so we're not using this to get to alpha centari.
Deceleration is always tricky in space. Why would you stop at another black hole light-years away from your destination? Or, if you are traveling with let's say half the speed of light, if you wanna break, with less than 5g, you will need years do do so.
I like how we can talk about black holes and worm holes like we know how they work when all we have is theories and flawed science where we are using mathematics and quantum physics to explain something that general relativity explains yet some people won't accept more obvious assumptions that make alot more common sense like life on other planets,but will consider the miltiverse,simulation and interstellar travel through impossible black holes. Black holes .. a collapsed star so dense that it pulls things towards it crushing them down,the size of the black hole radius is equal to the size of the star,the black hole will eventually turn outward on itself when it's core mass exceeds the size of its radius,in this process of eating matter,it disperses matter in the form of gasses which go on to create new resources for clouds which form planets and stars,black holes create a lensing effect which males measuring their mass density difficult especially when looking through a telescope millions of light years away,I very highly doubt a black hole is infinitely dense and i do not tale on board guesses that a black hole acts like a worm hole where there is another side to escape from,I don't think black holes punch a hole in space time and there is ZERO proof of this We live in a universe where golden ratios and symmetry are the constant throughout our known universe,emerging life will be different but similar enough,and advanced life like our own will be more like us and will have the ability to develop just like us If you look at the very small and the very large you find the same,if you look around the known universe you find uniformity with the same elements,that golden ratio is everywhere,yet there is no life anywhere,we are in our own and they know for sure that black holes go into infinity ? No they do NOT know this unless they go inside one,come back and tell us And that is their argument as to why Einstein can't be right when it comes to the very small,also they bring up the double slit and wave function yet I really don't see any issue with a particle or photon being/acting like both a wave and a particle,photons do act like waves,and particles will be carried along in waves .. where that breaks down is where they claim that when you try to measure the experiment yet there is no solid proof of this anywhere that I have found,only hypothesis so you need to take their word for it and yet also if true,it doesn't mean freaky action or weird science,it's simply a lack of understanding what measuring is actually doing Only a few years back,they claimed time travel to the future is possible which I agree with but time travel to the past is totally impossible which I do not agree with but now you can catch them say it could well be possible ... I worked this out my self within a year of thought yet those people are academics with many years under the belt,I do not even claim to be smart but what's going on ? Same goes for black holes,there is nothing wrong with theories of how they exist or their function but no one can put claim to them being or doing anything until they can study them up close,I think black holes are cosmic recycling machines personally and I highly doubt they can be used for travel I claim bullshit on all this,science has become stagnant over the last 60 years and now clutching at straws to create excitement,interest and funding by peddling rubbish
That's cuz it's Theoretical physics. All theories. Sure we need theories so that we can test them and prove them wrong or right, but sometimes there are so many out there, or are theories that are impossible to test with our current technology, where it muddies the waters.
When speaking of Black Holes "Some even as close as 10-20 light years away". Isnt Alpha Centauri only 4-5 light years away? Sure, that would be great science but it would be a terrible way to get to Alpha Centauri. It's like when you live in LA and get a shipment from Texas, yet the box had to go all the way to Minnesota to get to you.
No we can't. I just thought I'd set the record straight. Why can't scientists comprehend the size and scale of the Universe? We can literally only just get to the Moon, but even that is a ultra risky journey, even in 2023. Voyager has only just left our Solar System, after half a century. We have no idea what is at the centre of Black Holes. Even if we could reach one (which we can't, and won't) then there could be an infinitely dense rock in the centre. Black Holes are objects that can crush the matter out of diamonds, then proceed to crush that matter into fundamental particles ... and probably crush those particles into something else. What are you going to build the Spaceship out of?
Considering the nearest black hole is 15000 light years away and alfa cantori is only 4.5 light years away. I'd say traveling to the black hole to get to Alfa cantori is counterintuitive!
@@tonyg5132 Gaia BH1 (~1600 light years away). I agree that the problem isn't with the physics in principle, rather that the time needed between your laser reaching the event horizon and returning with the excess energy is prohibitive for our civilization today. That said, the fraction of the night sky that we've mapped within our local group today is really, REALLY small. Not to mention that it could easily be argued that given historical rates of technology innovation in other areas, our detection methods are probably also still in their infancy. So who knows how close the ACTUAL nearest black holes are (let alone binary stars). Better to keep our minds open for now, and to stay curious.
He said this was for a theoretically advanced society looking for a cheap “highway” system between stars. The entire concept is “stealing” energy. Not being able to generate the energy.
The only thing I don't understand with propelling micro chips with lasers in a light sail fashion is how on earth would you slow it down once it reaches its destination?
If the Laser comes back with more energy after bending around the black hole -> Isn't it possible to harvest that energy, wich will result in a source of unlimited free energy ?
@@shantiescovedo4361 Yeah, you are right ofc. But it would solve any energy related problems we have in todays world and far exceeding that... Also i wonder if we reflect the already charged up Laser back again, will its energy value quadruple? And how many times we would be able to x2 the energy... Very interesting things to think about :)
@@wompbozer3939 haha, you savage af :D Maybe we should use a spaceship, and also let people handle it, who are actually responsible. Like Elon :) DEATH RAY :D
Assuming one is able to survive the crushing gravity of a black hole, are we certain they are a "worm hole", a tear in the fabric of space, leading to another spot in the universe. What makes this idea rather more complicated is the notion that we are certain of the expanding universe. So where you happen to begin your journey in the universe to elsewhere, if you wish to return home, well home is going to be in a different location.
The neutrino slingshot idea is good but what happens when you collide with another object in space on your way to your destination. Maneuvering at those speeds it would be almost impossible and would slow you down. I think the only way to do it would be extremely slowly where you have a system of robotic sensors set up from point A to point B to tell the AI computer running the ship how to maneuver and when and where to go to miss objects on the trajectory path.
The title is misleading. Kipping said in the video that this method is not for traveling from Earth to AC, it's for a more advanced civilization that has already spread out in the galaxy a bit.
I get there is no jumping into working on future travel technology without natural progression but if we can figure out the simulation of real life physics then it will help greatly to accelerate the technology
It’s crazy how even if we could travel at the speed of light the nearest galaxy is out of range, unless you could travel at the speed of light for a couple million years and somehow have your offspring get there
If you could travel near the speed the light, then you would easily make it there yourself in your lifetime as time slows down for you. 2 million years would have passed to the outside world but for you it could only be like a year
@@elefantkakithe closest galaxy to us is 25,000 light years away.... so no, you definitely wouldn't make it there yourself, even if traveling at the speed of light
0:55 This part just screws with my head cause time really isn't a thing. We know time doesn't affect photons but that's cause they have no mass, it's not cause time stops for them. So if we find a vessel that can travel the speed of light (Which most likely is impossible) we still gonna age like normal. Time dillation is really only something that happens only for the "observer"...... right? haha
Time isn't a thing? Haven't you heard of Spacetime? It's an intrinsic part of the fabric of what we all live in/on. The arrow of Time started at the Big Bang and has continued it's singular direction ever since.
@@iambiggus Spacetime is still something we use to make sense of things. It is used for "us" to describe motion and position of objects in the universe. That also is not something we know is a "real" thing. Expained in another way, if we visit or aliens visit us, time and spacetime could be totally unknown for them cause they use other concepts for the same objective. My point then is since time doesn't exist, you can't manipulate it for anyone other than the "observer". Objects may look to slow down near a black hole but it's not cause they slow down "time" :)
@@Avean According to the best and most tested theory we have, Time is it's own dimension of space. If you're going to argue against GR then good luck, we're certainly going to need more than "Oh it's not real". That's not an argument. Explained another way, you making the postulation that time doesn't exist is the equivalent of saying entropy doesn't exist. Entropy obviously does exist; specifically it exists in one direction only, QM notwithstanding. And very generally speaking, that direction is order to disorder, hot to cold, and 'forward' only. Those conditions were set by the Big Bang, and the whole enchilada is called The Arrow of Time. The reason photons don't experience Time is they use all of their entropy quota into movement, and subsequently experience zero time. Semantics are fun, but irrelevant. Even if Aliens didn't know what the term "time" meant, they would still understand what it is and its effects, assuming they were equal in scientific study.
As of what we know today...similar to how it is done today: when sending probes (let's say mars, saturn, etc) we use gravity to slingshot and accelerate; then we again use gravity (anti-slingshot/gravity well) to decelerate...or we simply go into orbit...first we steal energy then we donate energy.
If I understood it correctly he was not talking about traveling 25 light years to then travel 4 light years...rather, we don't have a way to travel 4 light years right now but as a thought experiment we could send a laser 25 light years away to steal energy and have that laser comeback with the extra energy and facilitate our trip to a 4 light year distance neighboring system. Meaning: send laser (25ly); laser return (25ly); and use laser with extra energy (4ly) to travel...best case scenario at 100% speed of light, total 54ly! If whatever we send could achieve 25% the speed of light then total 70ly!!! Unlikely...fun thought experiment though.
No one mentioned traveling through black holes. If you don't understand what he's talking about, that's fine. But it's far from fantasy. Outside our current abilities if you're wanting to do this within a human lifetime, sure, but what they're talking about is no different than what we did 60 years ago to use the moon's gravity to return to Earth.
@@matthewsabala it's fantasy. humans will never travel close to the speed of light or even a fraction. the distance in space is unimaginable and we just don't have those type of resources
I have an oppinion, so use only if something resonates. To visualise how 3d environment can be a projection one may try meditation upon how Platonic solids can be built in the Metatron's cube. I feel holographic principal resonates with the Sacred geometry. For exaple, maybe inflation phase of the big bang is a way the creation unfolded from point like zero dimensions to one dimension. Than there's a possibility to build shapes, like sphere - surface from the infinite amount of points. Perfect radius. Whatever that might be for infinity. And then infinite amount of those spheres. Same perfect distance apart. And all sorts of shapes and patterns, degrees of freedom, frames of reference, every opposite. Space/time from one side of the event horizon and time/space from the other. Acceleration of mass produces the event horizon. So each our movement, each breath even if you think (emotion and thoughts also moves charge) is engraved on the event horizon on the edge of observable universe. With the limitless current of time/space from the other side. Flowing from One to One. Massless or point of infinite mass
i really thought of what he said when at the begining of the clip... is there any possible we can steal any kinetic energy from the cosmic and just make it done ... apart from what he said , any possibilities....??
I think the generally accepted physics of black holes is wrong. The matter inside the black hole is simply in a low entropy state so that it doesn't produce light. There is no reflection. Thusly the laser would not gain in entropy. Sling shotting around it may work to build speed. Especially if you have two black holes turning inward together. They draw the shuttle in and spit it out at some ludicrous speed.
They weren't talking about a ship...but a laser, you even mention it in your comment. Also they never said going into a black hole...actually he explicitly said as long as you (rather the laser) don't go into a black hole but rather stay on the accretion disk right at the limit of the event horizon. Lastly, he also explicitly said you wouldn't gain speed; a laser is photons (already traveling at the speed of light...they can't go faster)...the laser would steal momentum energy (in theory). You need to rewatch the video. As far as reflection, they only used the mirror as an analogy...what he said and was really talking about was gravitational lensing at 180 degrees, which only a black hole produces that...that's why pictures of black holes look like donuts. There a really good video that explains this phenomenon...the video was explaining the first photograph of a black hole.
@@gypsysanz8603 I don't think so. IMO, Photons don't interact with other photons directly. So they can't transfer momentum to each other. The laser would lose energy as the photons strike particles in the photoelectric effect. The photon has to reflect off of something and that something will cause it to lose kinetic energy.
@@Shadow_B4nned I agree, somewhat...and from what I inderstood, that would be the sail probe they strike at the end...as for reflection, I believe they were basically hypothesizing the laser doing a 180 degree by means of gravitational lensing, therefore no actual reflection...like a roundabout?
I believe scientists have been successful in creating antimatter in the lab...but only for nano seconds and in miniscule quantity. Problem is how do you contain antimatter until it is ready for use? As soon as antimatter comes in contact (even electromagnetically) with regular matter the result is anahilation! I suspect that right now the amount of energy needed to create a few particles of antimatter for nanoseconds is way too high...not feasible.
If you travel the speed of light how does that not split atoms and cause a nuclear explosion, are you not bound to crash into anything at that speed [big or small] and get destroyed?
They collide particles at places like CERN at speeds of 99.999% the speed of light. No nuclear explosions. Actually in our atmosphere there are particles from the sun, atomic-sized alpha particles traveling around 7% the speed of light, hitting molecules that make up that atmosphere millions of times a second, sometimes. No nuclear explosions. So no, not a concern by the ppl in the know. Shields provide adequate protection in most interstellar travel models. Interesting question.
You know what it really enoying? A rich guy who's sayin "just start a bussiness and become rich like me, don't be so jeolous." It's sounds simple, but it ain't. We're doing the same shit with interstellar space travel. We're sayin, yeah we'll just do that, we could do that etc. We can't do none of that shit. We act like we know a lot about the universe but we don't. It's fun to talk about it, and to dream, but don't give hope to people when there is none
I've got a question. If light is massless and travels at a constant velocity, then how can it be slingshot around the outskirts of the black hole's event horizon if it always travels at the same speed?
I think the universe DID intend for us to use the loopholes! We just have to figure them out with the technology we have instead of fight with each other!
Kipping’s Cool worlds channel has content that is literally unmatched by any other creator on TH-cam for the material. There are three or 4 videos that are simply masterpieces that cannot be challenged
I mean SEA is up there with the quality buddy
Cool worlds and Sea are the best in the business
This little maneuver is going to cost us 51 years
you don’t sound bad for pushing 120
@Jon Jingles “alright alright alright” 😂 much love to you all this is hilarity lol.
“When you think worm holes…you think Lincoln. Buy Lincoln, be a lot cooler if you did.”
-MaThEw DaMoN McCoNaLiNcOlN
Id do it
Come on TARS!
It's necessary
love lex and love kipping. hearing their discourse is so nice
I wonder sometimes if humanity's only realistic solution for reaching beyond the solar system is very large and relatively slow self contained colonies. Should the goal even be to reach another planet? Or should we just become nomads who set out with no destination in mind, drifting from star to star, scooping up asteroid belts for materials to sustain ourselves and build more artificial habitats. Occasionally letting the people who want to get off and settle the rare habitable world we might come across, knowing that they will forever be left behind and isolated from the rest of humanity, which is itself ever more fragmented as it slowly drifts apart.
That’s in essence the core of Isaac Arthur’s series about the million year ark, check it out it’s really cool
Maybe that's how we got here
Read Carlos Castaneda, we can already travel to another worlds.
What if the Earth is the very large, relatively slow self-contained colony... 🤔
Than the race that stays come back as ape like God's with untapped powers while fighting that alien civ 134 colony c.
small black holes are very common, this series of interviews is a great example...i cant seem to pull away
Kipping is great. Thanks lex.
great clip!
Seeing that black holes can be mirrors like describe, could we find a black hole that's in line with Earth to give us a line-of-sight effective enough and get the timing down perfect relative to the distance of it to be able to see images that look you know sort of like distant space telescopic images or whatever but of Earth itself from the past?
@Radarink it has nothing to do with seeing through black holes, rube. Did you not watch the video? He very clearly said black holes can bend light in a complete 180 degrees and act as a mirror
@@i.am.not.herbert Yes and we have now observed light from BEHIND a black hole. Tip of the iceberg.
You should check out the concept of a gravitational lens. It doesn't need to be black holes, objects with a lot of mass will bent light and therefore can act as a magnifying glass. This is already used in astronomy.
@@halbmalte He is talking about 180degree though...black hole is required.
@@halbmalte it's like you know don't even paying attention! You're pissing me off! I know what gravitational lensing is, heezus effing kryst!!!
This is the first time I ever heard it confirmed that the light to be lens in a complete 180 degrees. That's the whole point of the question! There needs to be a peripheral through this phone and smack you all around get you in line! I want to know if I can view Earth in the past with gravitational lensing if it's lined up and relative to the like if we can discover that perfect alignment.
Freakin hell.... do not try to be helpful if you're not! It is way too cold here and I am way too grumpy about it. Keep putting up with it
Everybody knows black holes are just planets we haven't unlocked yet
That was a misleading title. David immediately stated that it was incorrect. You need to travel or send light to the nearest orbiting pair of black holes first, which would ne much farther away than the destination.
I think it would be more interesting to create Von Neumann probes and send them over there. It may not be so hospitable over there.
3 hits of blotter LSD will get you there for $15. No spacecraft required
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I'd put my money on it that no one is travelling through any black holes lol
Mixing since with fractions is really talking about warm hols as traveling 🧭 in time
How do avoid a collision with a grain of space debris traveling at these speeds though 🤔
The idea of flying a ship in a middle of 2 spining neutron stars funny
The thing is how do you control a vehicle going that fast in space. Won’t your ship hit comets and asteroids
Don't take any of this too seriously. Interesting thought experiments for folks that don't really do anything.
Space is massive, the thing is most of space is empty, the distance between stars is huge, hitting space dust or micrometeoroids would be an issue, but if you developed the engines and the ship, it is hoped they would have some type of plating or shields to offer protection.
Space is so vast that most of it is empty. It would be a very low odd of hitting anything in space. Another thing is if we are advanced enough to travel that fast and explore other planets in other galaxy, i'm sure we would have technology that could somehow possible detect various obstacles along the way from very very very far away and adjust course or we could have weapons strong enough to completely obliterate the obstacles or maybe we could have some shielding to protect it from radiation and various impacts.
Some type of force field around the craft 🤔
Isn't alpha centari closer than the black hole that would be a futile journey I love to gaze at the universe but I got a few questions about it that doesn't make sense and I'd love it explained to me cause I think their wrong
I mean he also did say this method was more for a civilization already with systems over the galaxy. but using them as energy sources in-between places
It's the title that's off. Don't think he was still talking about alpha centari when talking about his idea.
Can't they be created
You gotta get Issac Arthur on here
Imagine all the black holes in the universe are just exit ramps for Alien “highways”
We just t bone someone immediately upon merging into an exit
@@paulespinoza9727 forgot to use the space signal
@@paulespinoza9727 should've given them more space 🥁
thats a crazy concept damn
no chance we cannot even build a pyramid
We could but why? Who's paying for it?
How would one (spaceship) stop after accelerating to fractions of light speed? Reverse slingshot effect?
Basically...steal energy at the beggining, then donate energy at the end.
The cool worlds guy, love this podcast
Whats with the suit and tie?
so we would need to go relativistic speeds in order to get close enough to black holes so we can use the black holes to go relativistic speeds? so we're not using this to get to alpha centari.
He just explained the space travel plot of Lightyear.
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Deceleration is always tricky in space. Why would you stop at another black hole light-years away from your destination?
Or, if you are traveling with let's say half the speed of light, if you wanna break, with less than 5g, you will need years do do so.
probably robots flying as crew, not humans so not a problem...
Wow what he's saying and how he's saying it is so interesting! I could listen to him for hours
His TH-cam channel called "cool world's" is properly decent stuff check him out
I like how we can talk about black holes and worm holes like we know how they work when all we have is theories and flawed science where we are using mathematics and quantum physics to explain something that general relativity explains yet some people won't accept more obvious assumptions that make alot more common sense like life on other planets,but will consider the miltiverse,simulation and interstellar travel through impossible black holes.
Black holes .. a collapsed star so dense that it pulls things towards it crushing them down,the size of the black hole radius is equal to the size of the star,the black hole will eventually turn outward on itself when it's core mass exceeds the size of its radius,in this process of eating matter,it disperses matter in the form of gasses which go on to create new resources for clouds which form planets and stars,black holes create a lensing effect which males measuring their mass density difficult especially when looking through a telescope millions of light years away,I very highly doubt a black hole is infinitely dense and i do not tale on board guesses that a black hole acts like a worm hole where there is another side to escape from,I don't think black holes punch a hole in space time and there is ZERO proof of this
We live in a universe where golden ratios and symmetry are the constant throughout our known universe,emerging life will be different but similar enough,and advanced life like our own will be more like us and will have the ability to develop just like us
If you look at the very small and the very large you find the same,if you look around the known universe you find uniformity with the same elements,that golden ratio is everywhere,yet there is no life anywhere,we are in our own and they know for sure that black holes go into infinity ? No they do NOT know this unless they go inside one,come back and tell us
And that is their argument as to why Einstein can't be right when it comes to the very small,also they bring up the double slit and wave function yet I really don't see any issue with a particle or photon being/acting like both a wave and a particle,photons do act like waves,and particles will be carried along in waves .. where that breaks down is where they claim that when you try to measure the experiment yet there is no solid proof of this anywhere that I have found,only hypothesis so you need to take their word for it and yet also if true,it doesn't mean freaky action or weird science,it's simply a lack of understanding what measuring is actually doing
Only a few years back,they claimed time travel to the future is possible which I agree with but time travel to the past is totally impossible which I do not agree with but now you can catch them say it could well be possible ... I worked this out my self within a year of thought yet those people are academics with many years under the belt,I do not even claim to be smart but what's going on ? Same goes for black holes,there is nothing wrong with theories of how they exist or their function but no one can put claim to them being or doing anything until they can study them up close,I think black holes are cosmic recycling machines personally and I highly doubt they can be used for travel
I claim bullshit on all this,science has become stagnant over the last 60 years and now clutching at straws to create excitement,interest and funding by peddling rubbish
That's cuz it's Theoretical physics. All theories. Sure we need theories so that we can test them and prove them wrong or right, but sometimes there are so many out there, or are theories that are impossible to test with our current technology, where it muddies the waters.
These hypotheticals is wild lol
When speaking of Black Holes "Some even as close as 10-20 light years away". Isnt Alpha Centauri only 4-5 light years away? Sure, that would be great science but it would be a terrible way to get to Alpha Centauri.
It's like when you live in LA and get a shipment from Texas, yet the box had to go all the way to Minnesota to get to you.
The issue with the slingshot theory is how would you stop? Also how do you build something able to withstand that speed.
No we can't. I just thought I'd set the record straight. Why can't scientists comprehend the size and scale of the Universe?
We can literally only just get to the Moon, but even that is a ultra risky journey, even in 2023. Voyager has only just left our Solar System, after half a century.
We have no idea what is at the centre of Black Holes. Even if we could reach one (which we can't, and won't) then there could be an infinitely dense rock in the centre. Black Holes are objects that can crush the matter out of diamonds, then proceed to crush that matter into fundamental particles ... and probably crush those particles into something else.
What are you going to build the Spaceship out of?
Good concept.
How do we know this about black holes??!??
Considering the nearest black hole is 15000 light years away and alfa cantori is only 4.5 light years away. I'd say traveling to the black hole to get to Alfa cantori is counterintuitive!
If you have the technology to send a craft to one of these black hole locations then you wouldn't need it.
What’s the closest black hole near earth?
@@tonyg5132 Gaia BH1 (~1600 light years away). I agree that the problem isn't with the physics in principle, rather that the time needed between your laser reaching the event horizon and returning with the excess energy is prohibitive for our civilization today. That said, the fraction of the night sky that we've mapped within our local group today is really, REALLY small. Not to mention that it could easily be argued that given historical rates of technology innovation in other areas, our detection methods are probably also still in their infancy. So who knows how close the ACTUAL nearest black holes are (let alone binary stars).
Better to keep our minds open for now, and to stay curious.
Nice, someone said it.
He said this was for a theoretically advanced society looking for a cheap “highway” system between stars.
The entire concept is “stealing” energy. Not being able to generate the energy.
The only thing I don't understand with propelling micro chips with lasers in a light sail fashion is how on earth would you slow it down once it reaches its destination?
You redeploy the solar sails upon arrival and use the the radiation from the solar system’s star your visiting to slow down the craft.
@@Taparoo2 would need a black hole nearby the visit star if a black hole was uses to accelerate generally speaking
As it stands the ships aren’t meant to decelerate. They collect data, transmit it back to Earth and they drift off never to be seen again.
Alpha Centauri is just over 4 light years away. The closest known black hole is 1,600 light years away. Silliness.
Love David Kipling
Suppose we reach these immense speeds. How do we then slow down once we reach our destination?
Watch "Event horizon" movie
Cheers mate 😎 👌
Fascinating ❤
Love this video
Brian green on TOE , and now this . I know what I’ll be listening to while I pack now
That video is absolutely mind blowing
Maybe black holes are like a giant microscope lenses that we are being observed through or tunnels to another black hole.
If the Laser comes back with more energy after bending around the black hole ->
Isn't it possible to harvest that energy, wich will result in a source of unlimited free energy
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It is not truly unlimited as eventually we would harvest all of the potential energy from the black hole. But black holes do have a lot of energy.
@@shantiescovedo4361 Yeah, you are right ofc. But it would solve any energy related problems we have in todays world and far exceeding that... Also i wonder if we reflect the already charged up Laser back again, will its energy value quadruple? And how many times we would be able to x2 the energy... Very interesting things to think about :)
That’s exactly what we need to do, create a death ray and aim it at the earth. This is why you shouldn’t always listen to science.
@@wompbozer3939 haha, you savage af :D Maybe we should use a spaceship, and also let people handle it, who are actually responsible. Like Elon :) DEATH RAY :D
Can we at least point it at a different planet first?
Assuming one is able to survive the crushing gravity of a black hole, are we certain they are a "worm hole", a tear in the fabric of space, leading to another spot in the universe. What makes this idea rather more complicated is the notion that we are certain of the expanding universe. So where you happen to begin your journey in the universe to elsewhere, if you wish to return home, well home is going to be in a different location.
instead of using lasers, how about using the plasma from the accretion disc for propulsion?
does seti decode modulations in supermassive blackhole jets for tech signatures?
The neutrino slingshot idea is good but what happens when you collide with another object in space on your way to your destination. Maneuvering at those speeds it would be almost impossible and would slow you down. I think the only way to do it would be extremely slowly where you have a system of robotic sensors set up from point A to point B to tell the AI computer running the ship how to maneuver and when and where to go to miss objects on the trajectory path.
Old idea that was used in a novel I read that was written back in the 70s I believe.
with the arcteezy
Fascinating
This is kipplings channel
youtube.com/@CoolWorldsLab
this is the conversation that i have with my friends after getting high.
We need to figure out how to meet at the same place at the end of time so we can throw a rager.
Wait til they get halfway and find out gravity is pulling from more than one direction... then what?
am i missing something? are there black holes between us and Alpha Centauri? so in other words, travel hundreds of light years to go 4.3 light years.
Watch it again, he explained that it wouldn't be possible now.
The title is misleading. Kipping said in the video that this method is not for traveling from Earth to AC, it's for a more advanced civilization that has already spread out in the galaxy a bit.
Momentum synchronisity
Send back an image through a blackhole? That was a wormhole in Interstellar not a blackhole, information can not leave a black hole.
I get there is no jumping into working on future travel technology without natural progression but if we can figure out the simulation of real life physics then it will help greatly to accelerate the technology
It’s crazy how even if we could travel at the speed of light the nearest galaxy is out of range, unless you could travel at the speed of light for a couple million years and somehow have your offspring get there
If you could travel near the speed the light, then you would easily make it there yourself in your lifetime as time slows down for you. 2 million years would have passed to the outside world but for you it could only be like a year
@@elefantkakithe closest galaxy to us is 25,000 light years away.... so no, you definitely wouldn't make it there yourself, even if traveling at the speed of light
@@Crowcaww yes you would, time would slow down for you. From your perspective you would get there almost instantly
@@elefantkaki no you wouldn’t. After reading one book you’d be like Damn this is gonna take forever
@@billjones8950 why
This man is a G
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0:55 This part just screws with my head cause time really isn't a thing. We know time doesn't affect photons but that's cause they have no mass, it's not cause time stops for them. So if we find a vessel that can travel the speed of light (Which most likely is impossible) we still gonna age like normal. Time dillation is really only something that happens only for the "observer"...... right? haha
Yes for the observer
Time isn't a thing? Haven't you heard of Spacetime? It's an intrinsic part of the fabric of what we all live in/on. The arrow of Time started at the Big Bang and has continued it's singular direction ever since.
@@iambiggus Spacetime is still something we use to make sense of things. It is used for "us" to describe motion and position of objects in the universe. That also is not something we know is a "real" thing.
Expained in another way, if we visit or aliens visit us, time and spacetime could be totally unknown for them cause they use other concepts for the same objective. My point then is since time doesn't exist, you can't manipulate it for anyone other than the "observer". Objects may look to slow down near a black hole but it's not cause they slow down "time" :)
@@Avean According to the best and most tested theory we have, Time is it's own dimension of space. If you're going to argue against GR then good luck, we're certainly going to need more than "Oh it's not real". That's not an argument.
Explained another way, you making the postulation that time doesn't exist is the equivalent of saying entropy doesn't exist. Entropy obviously does exist; specifically it exists in one direction only, QM notwithstanding. And very generally speaking, that direction is order to disorder, hot to cold, and 'forward' only. Those conditions were set by the Big Bang, and the whole enchilada is called The Arrow of Time.
The reason photons don't experience Time is they use all of their entropy quota into movement, and subsequently experience zero time.
Semantics are fun, but irrelevant. Even if Aliens didn't know what the term "time" meant, they would still understand what it is and its effects, assuming they were equal in scientific study.
It's interesting to speculate how you could achieve very high speed to get to somewhere but how can you break when you get there?
Turn the ship around?
@@fredjackson8408 I don't think you understand the basics of physics 😅
As of what we know today...similar to how it is done today: when sending probes (let's say mars, saturn, etc) we use gravity to slingshot and accelerate; then we again use gravity (anti-slingshot/gravity well) to decelerate...or we simply go into orbit...first we steal energy then we donate energy.
Is there a black hole closer to us than Alpha Centauri?
Exactly, let’s travel 25 light years away just to go 4 light years
no lol
If I understood it correctly he was not talking about traveling 25 light years to then travel 4 light years...rather, we don't have a way to travel 4 light years right now but as a thought experiment we could send a laser 25 light years away to steal energy and have that laser comeback with the extra energy and facilitate our trip to a 4 light year distance neighboring system.
Meaning: send laser (25ly); laser return (25ly); and use laser with extra energy (4ly) to travel...best case scenario at 100% speed of light, total 54ly! If whatever we send could achieve 25% the speed of light then total 70ly!!! Unlikely...fun thought experiment though.
Traveling through black holes. The fantasy of some people.
We should be friends
This was more about using black holes
No one mentioned traveling through black holes. If you don't understand what he's talking about, that's fine. But it's far from fantasy. Outside our current abilities if you're wanting to do this within a human lifetime, sure, but what they're talking about is no different than what we did 60 years ago to use the moon's gravity to return to Earth.
@@matthewsabala it's fantasy. humans will never travel close to the speed of light or even a fraction. the distance in space is unimaginable and we just don't have those type of resources
So you're more qualified then David? Obviously not becusse travelling through black holes wasn't brought up you just made it up in your head.
So in order to travel to a star all we have to do is travel to a pair of black holes 😂
I have an oppinion, so use only if something resonates. To visualise how 3d environment can be a projection one may try meditation upon how Platonic solids can be built in the Metatron's cube. I feel holographic principal resonates with the Sacred geometry. For exaple, maybe inflation phase of the big bang is a way the creation unfolded from point like zero dimensions to one dimension. Than there's a possibility to build shapes, like sphere - surface from the infinite amount of points. Perfect radius. Whatever that might be for infinity. And then infinite amount of those spheres. Same perfect distance apart. And all sorts of shapes and patterns, degrees of freedom, frames of reference, every opposite.
Space/time from one side of the event horizon and time/space from the other.
Acceleration of mass produces the event horizon. So each our movement, each breath even if you think (emotion and thoughts also moves charge) is engraved on the event horizon on the edge of observable universe. With the limitless current of time/space from the other side. Flowing from One to One. Massless or point of infinite mass
what if we just throw a boomerang through one and see if it comes back?
Is there any way to reach my washroom without leaving my bed at night? 😔
when you are in your washroom and suddenly wake up in bed.............. is it called "panic"?
Travel using Black Holes what?
They have to be detected in deep space first, let alone used as a transport hub. They cannot be directly imaged.
if they have a accreation disk they can be
@@1997camry Of course. There is even wild speculation of a Black Hole in our solar system 🤣🫣
Try D.C.
i really thought of what he said when at the begining of the clip... is there any possible we can steal any kinetic energy from the cosmic and just make it done ... apart from what he said , any possibilities....??
Science fiction writers have a lot to answer for; now we have a plethora of scientists queuing up to push their fiction as science facts.
The Jupiter 2 didn't need a "black hole" to get there!
Lex with the bed head
I think the generally accepted physics of black holes is wrong. The matter inside the black hole is simply in a low entropy state so that it doesn't produce light. There is no reflection. Thusly the laser would not gain in entropy. Sling shotting around it may work to build speed. Especially if you have two black holes turning inward together. They draw the shuttle in and spit it out at some ludicrous speed.
They weren't talking about a ship...but a laser, you even mention it in your comment. Also they never said going into a black hole...actually he explicitly said as long as you (rather the laser) don't go into a black hole but rather stay on the accretion disk right at the limit of the event horizon. Lastly, he also explicitly said you wouldn't gain speed; a laser is photons (already traveling at the speed of light...they can't go faster)...the laser would steal momentum energy (in theory). You need to rewatch the video.
As far as reflection, they only used the mirror as an analogy...what he said and was really talking about was gravitational lensing at 180 degrees, which only a black hole produces that...that's why pictures of black holes look like donuts. There a really good video that explains this phenomenon...the video was explaining the first photograph of a black hole.
@@gypsysanz8603 I don't think so. IMO, Photons don't interact with other photons directly. So they can't transfer momentum to each other. The laser would lose energy as the photons strike particles in the photoelectric effect. The photon has to reflect off of something and that something will cause it to lose kinetic energy.
@@Shadow_B4nned I agree, somewhat...and from what I inderstood, that would be the sail probe they strike at the end...as for reflection, I believe they were basically hypothesizing the laser doing a 180 degree by means of gravitational lensing, therefore no actual reflection...like a roundabout?
We need new Sub Light Speed drives and Warp Drives
Both could be based on synthetic negative mass
Bruh opening a black hole would suck in the solar system
Wow, so is there really synthetic anti-matter? 🤯 if not, is this the key?🤯🤯
I believe scientists have been successful in creating antimatter in the lab...but only for nano seconds and in miniscule quantity. Problem is how do you contain antimatter until it is ready for use? As soon as antimatter comes in contact (even electromagnetically) with regular matter the result is anahilation! I suspect that right now the amount of energy needed to create a few particles of antimatter for nanoseconds is way too high...not feasible.
If you travel the speed of light how does that not split atoms and cause a nuclear explosion, are you not bound to crash into anything at that speed [big or small] and get destroyed?
They collide particles at places like CERN at speeds of 99.999% the speed of light. No nuclear explosions. Actually in our atmosphere there are particles from the sun, atomic-sized alpha particles traveling around 7% the speed of light, hitting molecules that make up that atmosphere millions of times a second, sometimes. No nuclear explosions. So no, not a concern by the ppl in the know. Shields provide adequate protection in most interstellar travel models. Interesting question.
You know what it really enoying? A rich guy who's sayin "just start a bussiness and become rich like me, don't be so jeolous." It's sounds simple, but it ain't. We're doing the same shit with interstellar space travel. We're sayin, yeah we'll just do that, we could do that etc. We can't do none of that shit. We act like we know a lot about the universe but we don't. It's fun to talk about it, and to dream, but don't give hope to people when there is none
It’s just an itty-bitty black hole… what can go wrong…
With all due respect mr Kipping im going to let you test that theory 😂
I've got a question. If light is massless and travels at a constant velocity, then how can it be slingshot around the outskirts of the black hole's event horizon if it always travels at the same speed?
To be honest it would be easier just to travel there at snail's pace then to dive into a blackhole and hope you make it out in one piece.
What a genius - magnificent. We need more of this. We’re going to have to get off of this rock eventually.
Not in your lifetime. We have no where to go.
We just gotta find the relays.
I've seen this somewhere before. Anyone else?
You meet Iron Man George Clooney with this method
It's fascinating to me that scientists put so much truth And absolute In pure speculation
Wow! Puri-Puri Prisoner is way smarter than I thought!
Can you get out of the black hole on the other side?
you disappear before get out,lol
The spacing guild approves
I think a very small black hole made its way into my wallet.
I think the universe DID intend for us to use the loopholes! We just have to figure them out with the technology we have instead of fight with each other!
My theory is maybe we can artificially make a star or black hole in a controlled environment use that to travel tsol
My tiny brain cannot comprehend how these geniuses come up with this technology and even more importantly, how they use them in action.
Why not do a conventional gravity assist around a single black hole? As long as you have great measurements and great math. lol.
Time dilation gets stronger the closer you get to a black hole