The Corner (Robert Ford, 1963)

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  • New 16mm restoration (thanks to a grant from the National Preservation Foundation)! A documentary presentation from the point of view of the Vice Lords, a group of boys on Chicago's West Side, a description of their world as they know it, and their own evaluations of their codes and attitudes. Portrays life on the streets.
    Credits: Robert Ford (Director)
    Original: 16mm., B&W, Optical Sound, Found in Chicago Film Archives' Robert Ford Collection (www.chicagofilm...)
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  • @marcusjones1432
    @marcusjones1432 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I grew up out west. Trips me out to see how it was way back then.

  • @NDTommy
    @NDTommy ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Twenty years after this film was made, I ran into many Vice Lords in Austin usually on the Lake St. EL , 91 Austin or 85 Central Ave bus. The Vice Lords were really violent. I speak from experience from 1979 to 1983 as I would travel to Fenwick High School in Oak Park just west of Austin and Washington Blvds! Traveling through north and south Austin was very dangerous then. I had a few scrapes with the Vice Lords from Austin HS. Thank God I was never hurt or worse!

  • @gintasindreika933
    @gintasindreika933 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This film is precious. Lake Street El in Garfield Park, the year before the Beatles. When teenagers still showed some respect to their mothers, dressed neatly and looked for a job. No stupid Smartphones, no daily shootings or carjackings. Chicago, what happened to you?

    • @matrox
      @matrox 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Exactly.

  • @keepsk8boardingreal476
    @keepsk8boardingreal476 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I kinda respect these guys they have principles, and don't shoot each other all day. They're also not wimps. And they try to be themselves.

  • @JDX28
    @JDX28 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Chris has more sense than a lot of grown folks I know. I hope he’s doing good 🙏

    • @bardavidtaxodysmas2212
      @bardavidtaxodysmas2212 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The lad could see they were not tough just hurt misguided young men.

  • @mechelinekelly763
    @mechelinekelly763 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Brother Chris is the little guy... I was about 8 years old...Yep, Chris was about 13-14 years old.
    P.s. I loved this neighborhood!

    • @Jay-jp4nv
      @Jay-jp4nv 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I'm interested in knowing how Chris' life unfolded, he was brilliant for being so young

  • @frankbolton1532
    @frankbolton1532 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The system really did a job on us Lord have Mercy.

    • @bobbyg433
      @bobbyg433 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The system made you pick up guns and kill 600 people a year?

    • @Moneyg73
      @Moneyg73 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Fax

    • @matrox
      @matrox 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bobbyg433 Chicago run into the ground by DemocRAT Mayors. No republican Mayor since 1927!

    • @matrox
      @matrox 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@bobbyg433 Its the DemocRAT System.

    • @jaygoodwin5809
      @jaygoodwin5809 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yup for sure it got me too

  • @TM-em9ij
    @TM-em9ij 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Wow, what a beautiful film. Thank You :)

  • @joedermilio8924
    @joedermilio8924 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Growing up in south Philly there was corners every were everybody protected their neighborhood some corners where older than others if you where youg on the you had to listen to the oldheads u had to survive if you wanted to hang there 70s 80s peace ✌ out

  • @matrox
    @matrox 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Chicaaaagoo!...Chicaagoo!!!...Its My kinda town!☝🤓

  • @matrox
    @matrox 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This is 1963...could have easily been 1933, 43 or 53'. This can't hold a candle to the filth, carjackings, murders, robberies and other foul decadence we see in 2003, 2013 or today in 2023. Like night and day.

    • @kakashi101able
      @kakashi101able 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Actually by the late 1960s and 70s the homicide rate was much worse than today.

    • @matrox
      @matrox 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@kakashi101able Not really, the numbers are skewed because of medical technology by a lot! The crime rate is much worse today but the victims of crime today are saved by the latest advances in medical tech. Today people survive attacks that were unheard of in the 60s and 70s. Crime rates in the 50s 60s and 70s can't get close to the crime happening today. People being saved from gun shots that would have been impossible 50 years ago.

  • @perrymason4208
    @perrymason4208 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is great footage, thanks for the upload.

  • @jusgee8784
    @jusgee8784 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    All is well

    • @jusgee8784
      @jusgee8784 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @I am who I am You could hate it or love it peon shit

  • @waynewright2886
    @waynewright2886 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    That's the way it was with the Colored Folk in Chicago... Standing on the Corner or Under the El Track, Singing A Harmony Group of R&B Songs, Passing that Cheap Wine, Just Plain Bulls**tting Around on the South & Westside of Chicago!

  • @KennethDAstonJr
    @KennethDAstonJr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    See it was a "club" and they had rules to the "game" and had real respect for the game. The real "Cooley High"

  • @richnoble3577
    @richnoble3577 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ain't we lucky we got em...Good times 😌

  • @cle-chi
    @cle-chi 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hangin Out West!

  • @sinbad3892
    @sinbad3892 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would like an update on these people seeing whatever happened to most of them and where are they now the ones that still living

  • @georgiodukes4741
    @georgiodukes4741 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    That shit looked depressing back then.

    • @minns5515
      @minns5515 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Georgio Dukes
      Looks worse now though

    • @Chingon_Autentico
      @Chingon_Autentico 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Didn't look, was

    • @sinbad3892
      @sinbad3892 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would have loved to been in those days then now

    • @sinbad4887
      @sinbad4887 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@sinbad3892me too

  • @marcus2rell187
    @marcus2rell187 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Everybody looked so old back in the day

  • @shawnmalone9711
    @shawnmalone9711 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Good time capsule of early 1960s Chicago. I see guys wearing" do" rags and stingy brims and processed hair. " On a cold and gray Chicago morn another little baby boy is born in the ghetto...." No serious , I'll bet a lot of these guys were drafted and some probably served in Vietnam.

  • @fulton92503
    @fulton92503 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think there was more Job opportunity then than there is now in Chicago guys most didn't stay in gangs' past 18-21 but I was only 7 then

  • @heinmrichvandergraaf3456
    @heinmrichvandergraaf3456 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That child at the start of the documentary has more brains an commen cense then all those men on the corner

  • @motowngirl5891
    @motowngirl5891 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent Film

  • @jamesnevitt9293
    @jamesnevitt9293 7 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    These guys sure could dress back then.

    • @KennethDAstonJr
      @KennethDAstonJr 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That was the style back then. There were no designer clothes, leather sneakers, or marketing of clothing like today

    • @lkxnqno
      @lkxnqno 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@KennethDAstonJr they still had Gucci, Louis Vuitton, and kappa back then. Even Adidas and nike

    • @beverageguzzler6791
      @beverageguzzler6791 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ronald Washington And how do you know whether that person was alive back then or not to know what was available ? So, you should be the one to shut the fuck up. Besides, you know that you're living in the modern 21st century, right ? and that there's this thing available in this modern day and age called the Internet, right ? Which lo and behold you've used here to spout off your asinine comment. You can use that same instrument to look up and research brands and other things. There you go, dumbass.

    • @ithinkihaveebola5238
      @ithinkihaveebola5238 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KennethDAstonJr wrong!

    • @david-lm7iu
      @david-lm7iu ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ithinkihaveebola5238 they had Adidas in the 60s,look at ail boxing shoes people wore Nike and stuff back then 🤡

  • @gmerent
    @gmerent 10 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    wow. this is currently my property.

    • @ecallic100
      @ecallic100 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which one is your property

  • @ecallic100
    @ecallic100 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It’s crazy how the state of young men in Chicago is pretty much the same

    • @matrox
      @matrox 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      50xs worse now. This dude at least seems like he has some sense. No car jackings, driveby shootings and his pants are hanging halfway down his ass like the crack babies we see today.

  • @lonniejolly5882
    @lonniejolly5882 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Slap boxing. Wow!!!!

  • @kennethwilhoite892
    @kennethwilhoite892 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Them was some nice cars

  • @spuzzlightyeartoo
    @spuzzlightyeartoo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was about to ask if things are better now than they were then... But I guess you all answered my question lol

  • @rwr773
    @rwr773 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Strolling, cool cap and some timbs. Time change but people don't.

    • @ncpoloboy
      @ncpoloboy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      RW R right with the shades hanging from the shirt collar

    • @matrox
      @matrox 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeh...cool caps.

  • @sinbad3892
    @sinbad3892 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is where Eric Monte got the idea for Cooley High I think anyway

    • @yosimtybred1762
      @yosimtybred1762 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cooley high was based on monte's life

  • @KennethDAstonJr
    @KennethDAstonJr 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Damn those are some long ass Newports lol

    • @Themaddprof
      @Themaddprof 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Back then most Black people who smoked smoked Kools.

  • @davidblackwell6914
    @davidblackwell6914 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This film was used for many scenes in b.e.t's American Gangster

  • @Embassy97
    @Embassy97 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Youth is wasted on the young
    with that mentality the older ones never want to help the youth just like TODAY think of how we are looked at for hanging on the corner when we go to get jobs we are rejected to the point of embarrassment to this very day the older guys in position see the youth as a threat in the work force

    • @Embassy97
      @Embassy97 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The brush off hurts alot

  • @beverageguzzler6791
    @beverageguzzler6791 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    24:36 is where I have to differ with that statement of his. Some people can live alone and many prefer to do so, they're called introverts. So, I just wanted to counter argue his one sided extrovert narrative that he tried to project on everyone else here.

    • @334cobra5
      @334cobra5 ปีที่แล้ว

      He's right in a very deep and absolute sense though.

    • @ecallic100
      @ecallic100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He was speaking relative to the times they were in

  • @fratzogmopars
    @fratzogmopars 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The west side looks the same now as it did in 1963, and it will look the same 100 years from now.

  • @minns5515
    @minns5515 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Then we all die...

  • @The_straight_path55
    @The_straight_path55 9 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Vice Lord Vice Lord Vice Lord !!!!.

  • @TheJayblaze3
    @TheJayblaze3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What happened to Clarence?

    • @matrox
      @matrox 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Where ever he is he's pushing 80.

  • @PinkyPuff69
    @PinkyPuff69 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    People surviving and thriving, Made In The U.S.A

  • @devoradamaris
    @devoradamaris 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    🫂🌎🫂

  • @oswaldreynolds5213
    @oswaldreynolds5213 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can anyone tell me what Westside corner that 🤔 is?

    • @cbrownlee1
      @cbrownlee1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Lake & Homan Ave.

    • @citizenstranger
      @citizenstranger ปีที่แล้ว +1

      looks like lake and laramie tbh

  • @BarbaraPineda-v9p
    @BarbaraPineda-v9p 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    screw the words respected, abouts parental that's old school, depends of the parental, also big deals

  • @chamboyette853
    @chamboyette853 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    When you compare to Chicago now, it looks so much better back then. No constant shootings, few people murdered ... People don't seem to talk much about them being black either. Compare all this to documentaries on Chicago now. Very very different and much worse.

    • @FirstNameLastName-qq3de
      @FirstNameLastName-qq3de 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chicago was a conservative city back then it's a liberal city now.

    • @LoveTruth86
      @LoveTruth86 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Per 1000, the homicide rate in the 1960s is comparable to today. You can research this. It escalated into the 1970s.

    • @thomasbrown3356
      @thomasbrown3356 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The slums of Bronzeville was not much better then. What time capsule are you watching. Most of those neighborhoods have been gentrified and former residents pushed out to other crowded slums.

    • @joelx3612
      @joelx3612 ปีที่แล้ว

      it was bad back then dude

  • @shotguntwan217
    @shotguntwan217 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2:34 Birdman

  • @thomasbrown3356
    @thomasbrown3356 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Who eats a hot dog with a fork🤷‍♀️

    • @lauraveney1412
      @lauraveney1412 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If you have no bread you eat it with a fork

  • @qwestt1304
    @qwestt1304 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    They dressed better back then

  • @Themaddprof
    @Themaddprof 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    21:07, Twerking 1960s style.

  • @somenothing7914
    @somenothing7914 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:28

  • @carstellamoore2407
    @carstellamoore2407 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    could you have found something more positive to look at try harder there has got to be more uplifting shows about blacks
    in this time period.

    • @thefreedomtheatre9723
      @thefreedomtheatre9723 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Carstella Moore you find something..He found what interested him and I thank him for it. Looking forward to your positive upload tho.

    • @carstellamoore2407
      @carstellamoore2407 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      First of all may I humbly suggest getting a security license then start working for allied universal the company I work for you will keep a job the license cost about 200$ option 2save money come to California jobs are plentiful here

    • @RicardoHernandez-tc3ob
      @RicardoHernandez-tc3ob 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shut you ass up Castellan! You don't know caca

    • @lauraveney1412
      @lauraveney1412 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It is not sugar coated

    • @allonedalit2124
      @allonedalit2124 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is it, about the cold hard streets

  • @themako990mako9
    @themako990mako9 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wah crybabies. So did everyone else.

    • @deitalionlewis5006
      @deitalionlewis5006 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Trolling black videos but still unemployed

  • @edreal4361
    @edreal4361 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe the dude was French..Foo/say, English..fosters

  • @somenothing7914
    @somenothing7914 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:50