Yeah, I think Mel mentions elevating House Talis to the council in episode 4, rather than Jayce as an individual. He is just the current representative of his house, I guess
Even if there is some parliament rules on acsencion to the council, it's likely rigged to place those the nobles houses want to the council. Much like most forms of democracy.
Something to note here is how the relationship between Vi & Caitlyn is a combination of opposite attracts (both have different upbringings & personalities) & birds of a feather (both protective, stubborn, determined, & good hearted)😁.
@@lydiscott And in less than a month many fans hope to see it get stronger, but I imagine more character development first considering Vi's seeming struggles in the trailer.
Cait and Vi bed scene was in the morning their 5 minute presentation to the council was that night. They spent the entire day together. Enough happed in between for Cait to ask "what about us?" When Vi thinks Jinx cut off Cait's head, her mind thinks of Cait looking at her from said bed. Why would that particular image be the one she think about?
Caitlyn is a precious baby giraffe and must be protected at all costs. ♥ My favorite Caitlyn headcanon is that she's actually the more romantically experienced one. She looks perfectly at ease talking to the brothel worker. Caitlyn even charmed her into taking off the mask! Plus, that room is themed for hunting: lots of potted plants, a woodland painted on the wall, taxidermied animals, complete with bow-and-quiver props. Between the flashback scene of the shooting competition, and how swiftly Caitlyn is able to track Vi down after getting ditched, she certainly fits the bill of a hunter. Also consider that when Cassandra kicks open the bedroom door with rifle in hand, she sees her daughter sneaking a girl into her room and Cass's reaction comes across like, "This again?" Caitlyn's probably an old hand at bringing classmates up to her room for a snog. 😉 By contrast, Vi comes across as the more flirty one, but that's clearly an act. She spent pretty much all her formative years either being a parent to her little sister, or in prison and struggling just to survive. Hell, Vi might even be a virgin!
This is my favourite headcanon too!! It makes a lot of sense that she’s the most experienced one too, Vi was literally in prison for YEARS, Cait could do technically as she pleases (at least in that regard), I also kinda think that the fact that she’s the one asking “what about us” so directly could also be (apart from everything else) a bit of a “hint” that she knows how to handle romantic relationships better (this is just a smaller detail on the scene tho), It’s also interesting to see Vi’s flirtiness as an act to hide her lack of romantic experience, I can just imagine a scene where she’s all confident flirting with Caitlyn to maybe annoy her (like in the brothel) but then Cait flirts back very directly/boldly and she starts getting a bit nervous hhahah (very random Ik)
Plus Vi was in solitary confinement for a long time because she kept fighting with the other prisoners. I highly doubt she even got basic human contact for years.
I really love how the Kiraman family embraces their passion for firearms. Caitlyn fidgets with a gun while contemplating her investigation, and there's a family painting featuring young Caitlyn holding a rifle. Plus, Caitlyn’s participation in sharpshooting competitions and her mom's rifle skills make it all even cooler!😅👍
The first thing Caitlyn learned about being an Enforcer was that it meant protecting people and being of service to the city. That is what an enforcer should be shooting for. And in that final episode she had a chance to prevent the bombing and potentially the war by just taking one shot, but she failed to do so because of her desire not to hurt Vi I could definitely see her taking that lesson to heart in season 2. That her first priority has to be protecting the citizens of Piltover from further destruction, by never hesitating like that again. By doing the hard and unpleasant thing, making what someone like Ambessa would call “the necessary decisions to keep us safe," and forcibly keeping topside and the undercity from hurting each other, whether they like her means of doing so or not And I could see her deciding that things like empathy and personal feelings are only holding her back, so she needs to bury them deep inside (or ship them halfway across the continent like the Medardas). Which will be tragic to watch, given how empathetic she actually is, so you know it's just going to be boiling over inside and tearing her apart with guilt while she's fighting tooth and nail never to let that kind of weakness show. At least until there's some big moment where she realizes she's gone too far and is doing more harm than good and needs to correct her mistakes
@lismarie9011 I really hope I'm on the right track, because Caitlyn meaning well but taking it too far for a while is a much more interesting story direction than Caitlyn just going off the deep end and not even having good intentions anymore Maybe it even happens gradually, like she has this clear vision in the beginning of the season of how to prevent the war and preserve peace in the city but everybody topside keeps rejecting her ideas. Then she crosses the river and finds that even though she cares so much about the wellbeing of the undercity and Jinx just wants "to watch it all burn," the people there now LOVE Jinx and actually try to protect her from Caitlyn So Cait slowly loses trust in all the people around her except Vi. Then, of course, something happens that makes her feel like even that trust is now gone, and they have their breakup. So Caitlyn, who feels completely alone and like she has absolutely no stability or control in her life anymore but has just been promoted to a position of power, decides to go all Big Brother and single-handedly prevent violence in the city through tight-fisted control of all the citizens. In her mind, they obviously can't be trusted to make the right decisions for their own safety, so they just don't get to make those decisions anymore. SHE does
It was a hectic moment but she did have the chance to neutralize jinx, not kill but take the power to hurt away. Shoot her shoulder or leg or get her into a real submissive position like kneeling and laying.
Great analysis as always :) As much as I love Vi, I'm looking forward to Caitlyn's arc the most for season 2. Her ideals are going to be tested for sure. I think it's going to be rough, but hopefully there will be some meaningful catharsis for her in the long run.
@@lydiscott Yeah I've definitely spent too much time theorizing how things might go, at least in the beginning. I do think thematically Caitlyn and Jinx are sort of "mirrors" of one another. Both from opposite "sides", but both also linked with Vi in the middle. So I think Caitlyn might have similar story beats as Jinx did in season one. Not identical, but sort of rhyme. The show is so heavy with parallels I can't help but think of it that way. I think you're right that agency is a big part of Caitlyn and Jinx's arcs, but also with Vi as well. They are all touched by these parental figures and their prior actions, or lack thereof. But will they overcome the mistakes of those who came before, so to speak. Themes everywhere! Either way, I definitely think Caitlyn is going to have a "dark path" at least for a portion of the season. My hope is that she will eventually come out of it somewhere in the third act.
I looove that Caitlyn's name is Irish, she speaks with a British accent, and is voiced by a Scottish actress😄 Great video! I love Cait. She is also a very relatable character for me. While I, myself, am not an only child nor come from wealth, my brother and I were pretty sheltered by very overprotective parents. Even as adults, we still feel guilty if we do anything that may make them worry or disapprove and they often do voice displeasure. Well, my dad now since my mom has passed (...maybe also relatable now..?😅) but I digress. It's a feeling of wanting to break free and be independent and choose our own paths without helicopter parenting making us always second guess ourselves. The struggle is real. We were very naive as children heading into the real world. He and I have always tried to treat others with kindness and empathy despite not always receiving it in kind. Cait's a helluva lot more confident and brilliant minded than I'll EVER be tho lol. Many fans hate on her for her privileges and being an enforcer and see her as bad or annoying. And sure, she can be naive and blinded by her privileged upbringing (through no fault of her own as parents shape their children), but that's also what makes her such a compelling character in that she has some of THE MOST character growth in the series thus far. I'm very interested, but nervous, how s2 will treat her, but I hope if everything must hit rock bottom that she (and Vi) can still get a happy ending.
I fear the attack on her mother will drive Caitlyn into a sharp turn into aggressive conservatism to punish Jink and by extension Zahn for the attack. So much that Caitlyn will go"with us or against us" with Vi forced to become an Enforcer and hunt Jinx. And she will abandon Vi when Vi refuses to.
It's also a good thing to note that Caitlyn gave Jinx a second chance by not killing her in that moment, majorly for Vi's sake and the goodness of her heart. That hesitation, that doubt of killing Jinx in that moment, then spiraled into Jinx very likely killing her mother and/or her closest friend. And I think we all agree that Caitlyn giving Jinx a third chance after betraying her before (which is what led to this whole mess) is... Incredibly unlikely. Part of Caitlyn's gotta be blaming herself for not killing Jinx when she had the chance, and lowkey Caitlyn has every right to go full guns blazing, fully from her perspective. She's been nothing but open to understanding and got majorly screwed over sooo...
@@xdv0id420 And this is cycle of revenge that extended long before any of these characters were born and seems destined to carry them along too. The challenge in fiction or reality is trying to stop it before it consumes everything.
Cupcake is a very good character and funnily the only character with plot amour in its purist form (Progress day trap and she being the only survivor although being closest to the explosion). But besides this she is probably the second character incorporated in the story from Topside after Grayson. Because she is like Powder the embodiment of her city in its purist form. Thats the reason she is so closely connected to every character more so than even Vi or Powder. I love the fact that she is gay just because it adds just another layer of conflict and tragedy to her and I love myself some layers lol. Great video. Have a nice day AEther
Haven’t watched the video yet, but I noticed that the text on the thumbnail is quite similar to the thumbnail of Idle Scree’s Caitlyn video posted about a week ago. It’s likely a coincidence, but if it’s not then a mention in the video or even just the description goes a long way. As always, love your Arcane character breakdowns! I’m eager to dive into this one 😁
J'aime beaucoup tes analyses. Tu es belle à voir partager ta passion pour les personnages et les histoires et tu es vraiment intéressante à écouter. Merci pour tout et j'ai bien hâte pour la suite !
Best girl Caitlyn!! You knocked it out of the park! I absolutely love genuine, insightful analyses of Arcane characters but especially Caitlyn's since we're really lacking in that department. I could eat this up!!! She's somehow one of the most hated, loved AND misunderstood characters in Arcane, and you did her justice. I love love how people keep finding more and more parallels between her and Jinx as well. There's just so much there and it's just so uuuggghhh i love it. I can't wait for her character regression in season 2 (it'll hurt so bad) and how she gets back to being the loveable good-hearted cupcake we all love and adore. Lastly, thank you for making this video 🫶🏽
Thank you for watching and for your comment! It was really fun to make this, I can’t help but relate to Caitlyn, and it so cool to see a sheltered girl like her NOT be portrayed as weak. As naive as she may be she’s pretty kickass!
@@lydiscott Yes, despite starting off as a trope, I love how this show explores characters in such interesting ways and subverts expectations. Despite not being an only child I still relate to her so much. She's a great role model on being able to work through her ignorance, accept hard truths, and simply WANTING to grow.
Caitlyn has been my favorite character since season 1 episode 4, I always like her good characteristics and her bad characteristics too, the show has a very incredible way of showing her kindness and intelligence but also dont hide her ignorance, naivity and willingness to use her position for what she wants, in this case falsifying the document to get Vi out or not being fired even before for her constant investigations, if it was another person they would have been fired long before, that and many other things creates the separation between her and her coworkers and she wouldnt have been able to get Vi out that easily. It was something good for us becasuse we like Vi but if she could do that for her, she could do that for another person that may have really committed a crime if she wanted to, just because she has the power, is corruption and a broken system and they dont hide that from us, the audience and the interesting part is that I thing that she isnt even aware of this, she gets upset by being given a lot of things when she realizes is just for her family name, but she is so used to it that a lot of things doesnt register in her mind, it isnt in bad fate, it is just her life. We can see different sides of her not only watchin her but seeing how other people see her, how Jayce trust her, how Vi see her at the beginning and how her opinion changes, how Jinx see her, even how Marcus see her, I love his line "she is like all of them, I cant control her" showing his frustration with the upper class even if he himselfis very judgamental of the undercity. And yes her and Jinx are so much alike, if we just take appearances, both have blue hair, they both have natural blue eyes, Caitlyns design is very similar in the sense that she has very sharp features like Jinx and Silco (something that cought my attention since the beginning because in character designe those are features for antagonist or villans, having those characteristics in a character shown to be very gentle was interesting especially in a show that is all about opposites, like Vi having very round and cute features even if she is the "strong, violent one" that have usualy more square features). In personality and abilities both are extremely inteligent, both are great with guns, and both want to prove something to somebody else or themselves and like Vi said, both are very obsesive. honestly she is a character that I relate to in an absurd amount of ways, for what we see in the new trailer I know she will be in a very dark path, that makes me so sad, I understand her pain for what happened to her at the end of s1 but I will not defend her if she does wrong things, even if this happens I think she will always be a very important character for me. I grew up with very loving parents, they protected me and my older brother a lot, we both were very sick when we where kids so they always cared a lot for us, I dont usally go out much even now as an adult because I like to stay indoors, so I dont have a lot of expirience outside besides work and normal life things but I share the sentiment of wanting to prove my abilities in the things I do in life and of course wanting to be more independant comming from a protective home. My family is not rich,we are a normal family that need to work to afford things but that doesnt stop me for relating to her a lot because even if we dont have a lot of money we have more privilages than other people in my country and i have always had a very good life, and it is good to be aware of this. Even if she is an only child the relationship between Jayce and her is very special because he is like her big brother and I relate a lot to that, they care and trust in eachother. The scene that just blew me away was when she tells the other guards about the airships, I tend to do that or say random facts, my friends know that it isnt with bad intentions and I try not to do that with strangers because it can be taken badly and I just felt so much empathy for her in this scene and i can talk of more scenes but this is already too long 😅. Also I watched this show almost 3 years ago, I didn't know about their LoL lore but I loved it scince episode 1 started, i wasn't expecting the show to have two lesbian characters with such an obvious connection and in that time i had accepted that I am Bi just a few months before so it was a very awesome surprise and it was something very special for me at that time in my life that i was just accepting myself. Loved the video❤
I can't believe there're people who think she's just visual or Vi's (unofficial) girlfriend. The thing that grabbed me the most was her skills (especially the scene where Jinx was shooting)
Ya I’ll admit I’m totally guilty of viewing Caitlyn through a very Vi-centric lens in the past, because Vi is such an interesting character as well, but when I realized this I was like “oh crap I need to do right by Caitlyn here” lol. She’s got so much more to her than just being Vi’s anchor.
thank you for this video ! arcane’s rendition of cait is one of my favourite fictional characters of all time , it’s lovely to see her getting some love
New comer to your channel, just finished your Edge runners videos and moved on to these. You really put your heart into this, and I'd be a liar if I said you haven't hit me in feels in more than a few times now. Keep it up!! You do great work!
After doing whatever she could think of to break free from overprotection, she finds her calling in protecting a protector. I love that. There’s a moment in episode 7 that’s been pointed out but I haven’t really appreciated until now: when Jinx shoots at Caitlin and Vi on the bridge, before Vi pushes Cait out of the way you can actually briefly see Cait trying to shield Vi with her arm.
I can't wait to see all the new fanart- I mean character development from S2. Caitlyn is one of those characters that you just feel kind of relieved to have on screen in a series like this, shes such a grounding force for the people around her in S1
I recently and randomly watched your video on Sevika, that and this have both been great videos so I will be checking out more of your channel. Like many, I watched cartoons when I was younger and although I have no issues with animation as a form of storytelling it's generally not a big part of what I enjoy as an adult. I never played the game but something drew me to it when it came out. I actually watched it twice at the time but haven't actually returned to it. This level of animation and quality of vocal performances gives so much emotional resonance to well-written characters. There are no weak points to the storytelling and you have a wonderful way of engaging with that emotion with your inflections.
It just occurred to me what the perfect summary for Caitlyn's likely season 2 arc is: "In the pursuit of great, we failed to do good. We have to make it right." Just like Jayce and Viktor, just like Vander, heck even Silco in the end. She sees legitimate flaws and failings in her society, but she is continuously held back from fixing them by a corrupt system and by people who don't share her urgency to fix it NOW. Until eventually she decides to fix the problem all on her own, even if that means compromising her morals to achieve it, but then finally coming to regret that choice once the collateral damage it has led to becomes too much for her to stomach
I look at theories regarding S2, and info direct from the makers that says Vi and Jinx's story ends with S2, but for the rest, I've been waiting this long. I can wait til it comes to Netflix.
As a greek Caitlyn name is an Irish origin but the name originally comes from the Greek one Αἰκατερίνη (Aikaterine)/Κατερίνα (Katerina) Also I love the fact that her mothers name is also Greek Cassandra (Κασσάνδρα) and it means '' the one who shines or excels over a man'' showing that she is the ruler of the family and for a fact the Kiramman name IS matrilineal
Hellohello. Very much enjoying your Arcane character series. With your eye for symbolism, have you considered doing a colour analysis of the show? The blue of Piltover's enforcer uniforms and hex tech. The pink of Zaun and shimmer. How Vi's hair is definitively of Zaun, and Powder's showing how her love of tinkering and tech would be a perfect fit for Piltover had she been born there. Their mother's being blue like Caitlyn's implying that Vi has succumbed to Zaun because she had to. The alternating blue and pink of Jinx's nails capturing her twin mental states, and the final change in eye colour post-shimmer. And speckled between all that, the green of Ekko's third way and the red of the external threat represented by Mel's mother and Noxus.
A small detail that’s in the scene right before Caitlyn escapes Vi, Vi rolls her shoulder. She does this almost every time before or mid fight. Perhaps it’s the shoulder she broke after the factory when debris fell on her. I doubt prison was a spectacular place to heal a bone correctly.
Loved the video ❤ the only thing that doesn't apply to Caitlyn is the fact that in Arcane's world homophobia doesnt exist, it is completely normal and common for same sex people to be partners, so at least she doesn't have to worry about that, and one of the writers said that her family passes the family legacy to the women line in the family, the only thing to consider is if Caitlyn wants to have a child in her future because it would be very bad for her if she doesn't want a child and she is the only one in line for the family leadership, but maybe she has more family that can take her place 🤷 Also Amanda, one of the writers kind of said that Caitlyn had the tendency of sneaking girls to her bedroom through the window when she was younger, that seeing Cait and Vi enter her room wasnt a new experience for Caitlyn 's mother 😂. For the interactions that Vi and Caitlyn have i think that Caitlyn is the one with far more expirence in dating and flirting because obviously Vi has been in jail since she was 15. Caitlyn was just taken aback when Vi pushed her to the wall, she looks very comfortable with the woman in the brothel, since that scene I have always thought that she is kind of a womaniser, Vi flirts and jokes a lot but i think it is part of a defensive or protective mechanism at first and also she just likes to joke around.
The short answer is yes. The long answer is that I spoiled myself the entire shows plot points just to scream at the TV for „hiding away“ the rest of the story. I wanted to kill the creators for actually achieving something only few writers can: „Create People“. The fact that this show shouldn’t even work and on top is an ad (in theory) to sell skins in LoL is absolutely insane. This show has no right to be this good. I personally am 700ish hours in analyzing this series and Im still finding stuff I didn’t thought about that change the entirety of my perception. The reason for this is a character network that is able to introduce and develop a character in 8min to the point we hate her but then understand her. And honestly now is the best time to start as you will be able to watch the show and then watch season 2 right after so you get the combined package instead of waiting 3 years.
there's a YTer who is a psychologist (Psyculturists) who recorded 3+ hour reaction and analysis videos for each ~45 minute episode. There's another YTer who's a writer (Schnee) who has done something like 100 analysis videos. For my part, I'm not usually into tragedy. I find myself arguing with the writers most of the time when they try to do tragedy. I don't buy the motivation of the characters, or the chain of cause and effect, or the psychological model that the writers based their characters' reactions on, or whatever. But with Arcane I can't do that. Everything is so solidly established that it feels deterministic - that from the starting conditions of the show it would always turn out the way it did. So there's no choice but to just accept the tragedy.
I seek flaws in everything I come into contact with. Nothing is pleasing to me. Arcane I only had a single complaint and it is incredibly minor. It might be the best thing I've seen. THe first 3 episodes contain more character development, feel and plot than most series contain in a season. It is gutwrenching. The animation opened my mind to new ways to display emotions in visual media. Everthing is beautiful or transcendent. Watch it. It might be the best thing I've come into contact with. It knocked other 10/10 shows down to 9 just to make place for arcane.
I like your visual annotations method of additional context to the work though it means I can't look away for long. Also, you can't bake too much. You just need a larger distribution system to get your excess creations to more hungry mouths for disposal. :)
Ahhh thank you! I’m so glad! I really enjoy annotations in videos like these (altschiftx and Schnee come to mind!) so I figured I’d try them out! 😄 I remember things better when I can read. And YKNOW WHAT YOURE RIGHT LMAO I must work on my distribution! 😂
Caitlyn herself didn't know how to answer Graysons question. She shoots Savika only to stop her attack on Vi, she protects in season 1, but in season 2 i bet she will def hurt someone with her rifle.
I love her pure heart in season one and I'm afraid Jinx killing her mother will ruin it 😭 hopefully she's able to pull back by the end of the season before she goes too deep.
Hey, this is a crazy good channel and I’m really happy to have subbed to it early. I really think you’re gonna grow big with how thoughtful your content and own conclusion are. Do you write yourself?
Council seat might actually NOT be inherited, SORRRY GUYS! LOL thank you for watching!
@@lydiscott they are
They talk a lot about Houses and Traditions
@@aetherwolf9288OH THANK YOU FOR CLEARING THAT UP 😄😄😄
@@lydiscott np
Yeah, I think Mel mentions elevating House Talis to the council in episode 4, rather than Jayce as an individual. He is just the current representative of his house, I guess
Even if there is some parliament rules on acsencion to the council, it's likely rigged to place those the nobles houses want to the council. Much like most forms of democracy.
Something to note here is how the relationship between Vi & Caitlyn is a combination of opposite attracts (both have different upbringings & personalities) & birds of a feather (both protective, stubborn, determined, & good hearted)😁.
I LOVE THAT PAIRING
The best freaking dynamic everrrrr
Technically they never dated, so she's everything but Vi's girlfriend. 😁
THE SHIP IS STRONG
They totally had something. Queer subtext
@@AverageDonaldDuckFan Definitely, but it's never been official, and that makes her character so much stronger character-wise, in some ways.
@@lydiscott And in less than a month many fans hope to see it get stronger, but I imagine more character development first considering Vi's seeming struggles in the trailer.
Cait and Vi bed scene was in the morning their 5 minute presentation to the council was that night. They spent the entire day together. Enough happed in between for Cait to ask "what about us?" When Vi thinks Jinx cut off Cait's head, her mind thinks of Cait looking at her from said bed. Why would that particular image be the one she think about?
She's an uptown girl, she's been living in her uptown world
Caitlyn is a precious baby giraffe and must be protected at all costs. ♥
My favorite Caitlyn headcanon is that she's actually the more romantically experienced one. She looks perfectly at ease talking to the brothel worker. Caitlyn even charmed her into taking off the mask! Plus, that room is themed for hunting: lots of potted plants, a woodland painted on the wall, taxidermied animals, complete with bow-and-quiver props. Between the flashback scene of the shooting competition, and how swiftly Caitlyn is able to track Vi down after getting ditched, she certainly fits the bill of a hunter. Also consider that when Cassandra kicks open the bedroom door with rifle in hand, she sees her daughter sneaking a girl into her room and Cass's reaction comes across like, "This again?" Caitlyn's probably an old hand at bringing classmates up to her room for a snog. 😉
By contrast, Vi comes across as the more flirty one, but that's clearly an act. She spent pretty much all her formative years either being a parent to her little sister, or in prison and struggling just to survive. Hell, Vi might even be a virgin!
sorry i love your take but i lost it at BABY GIRAFFE
This is my favourite headcanon too!!
It makes a lot of sense that she’s the most experienced one too, Vi was literally in prison for YEARS, Cait could do technically as she pleases (at least in that regard), I also kinda think that the fact that she’s the one asking “what about us” so directly could also be (apart from everything else) a bit of a “hint” that she knows how to handle romantic relationships better (this is just a smaller detail on the scene tho),
It’s also interesting to see Vi’s flirtiness as an act to hide her lack of romantic experience, I can just imagine a scene where she’s all confident flirting with Caitlyn to maybe annoy her (like in the brothel) but then Cait flirts back very directly/boldly and she starts getting a bit nervous hhahah (very random Ik)
Plus Vi was in solitary confinement for a long time because she kept fighting with the other prisoners. I highly doubt she even got basic human contact for years.
Vi might even be a virgin! is such a strange thing to say and even think about. Touch grass
I really love how the Kiraman family embraces their passion for firearms. Caitlyn fidgets with a gun while contemplating her investigation, and there's a family painting featuring young Caitlyn holding a rifle. Plus, Caitlyn’s participation in sharpshooting competitions and her mom's rifle skills make it all even cooler!😅👍
Plus her mom kicks down Cait’s door and busts out the shotgun when she hears Cait and Vi sneaking into the bedroom.
The first thing Caitlyn learned about being an Enforcer was that it meant protecting people and being of service to the city. That is what an enforcer should be shooting for. And in that final episode she had a chance to prevent the bombing and potentially the war by just taking one shot, but she failed to do so because of her desire not to hurt Vi
I could definitely see her taking that lesson to heart in season 2. That her first priority has to be protecting the citizens of Piltover from further destruction, by never hesitating like that again. By doing the hard and unpleasant thing, making what someone like Ambessa would call “the necessary decisions to keep us safe," and forcibly keeping topside and the undercity from hurting each other, whether they like her means of doing so or not
And I could see her deciding that things like empathy and personal feelings are only holding her back, so she needs to bury them deep inside (or ship them halfway across the continent like the Medardas). Which will be tragic to watch, given how empathetic she actually is, so you know it's just going to be boiling over inside and tearing her apart with guilt while she's fighting tooth and nail never to let that kind of weakness show. At least until there's some big moment where she realizes she's gone too far and is doing more harm than good and needs to correct her mistakes
I love all of this! 😄
First theory about season two Caitlyn’s arc I see that actually makes sense, it sounds soo interesting
@lismarie9011 I really hope I'm on the right track, because Caitlyn meaning well but taking it too far for a while is a much more interesting story direction than Caitlyn just going off the deep end and not even having good intentions anymore
Maybe it even happens gradually, like she has this clear vision in the beginning of the season of how to prevent the war and preserve peace in the city but everybody topside keeps rejecting her ideas. Then she crosses the river and finds that even though she cares so much about the wellbeing of the undercity and Jinx just wants "to watch it all burn," the people there now LOVE Jinx and actually try to protect her from Caitlyn
So Cait slowly loses trust in all the people around her except Vi. Then, of course, something happens that makes her feel like even that trust is now gone, and they have their breakup. So Caitlyn, who feels completely alone and like she has absolutely no stability or control in her life anymore but has just been promoted to a position of power, decides to go all Big Brother and single-handedly prevent violence in the city through tight-fisted control of all the citizens. In her mind, they obviously can't be trusted to make the right decisions for their own safety, so they just don't get to make those decisions anymore. SHE does
It was a hectic moment but she did have the chance to neutralize jinx, not kill but take the power to hurt away. Shoot her shoulder or leg or get her into a real submissive position like kneeling and laying.
Great analysis as always :) As much as I love Vi, I'm looking forward to Caitlyn's arc the most for season 2. Her ideals are going to be tested for sure. I think it's going to be rough, but hopefully there will be some meaningful catharsis for her in the long run.
I have a feeling she’s going to go down a dark path, and I’m all for it, but GAH I hope she comes out of it okay. Thanks so much for watching! 😄
@@lydiscott Yeah I've definitely spent too much time theorizing how things might go, at least in the beginning.
I do think thematically Caitlyn and Jinx are sort of "mirrors" of one another. Both from opposite "sides", but both also linked with Vi in the middle. So I think Caitlyn might have similar story beats as Jinx did in season one. Not identical, but sort of rhyme. The show is so heavy with parallels I can't help but think of it that way. I think you're right that agency is a big part of Caitlyn and Jinx's arcs, but also with Vi as well. They are all touched by these parental figures and their prior actions, or lack thereof. But will they overcome the mistakes of those who came before, so to speak. Themes everywhere!
Either way, I definitely think Caitlyn is going to have a "dark path" at least for a portion of the season. My hope is that she will eventually come out of it somewhere in the third act.
I looove that Caitlyn's name is Irish, she speaks with a British accent, and is voiced by a Scottish actress😄
Great video! I love Cait. She is also a very relatable character for me. While I, myself, am not an only child nor come from wealth, my brother and I were pretty sheltered by very overprotective parents. Even as adults, we still feel guilty if we do anything that may make them worry or disapprove and they often do voice displeasure. Well, my dad now since my mom has passed (...maybe also relatable now..?😅) but I digress. It's a feeling of wanting to break free and be independent and choose our own paths without helicopter parenting making us always second guess ourselves. The struggle is real. We were very naive as children heading into the real world. He and I have always tried to treat others with kindness and empathy despite not always receiving it in kind. Cait's a helluva lot more confident and brilliant minded than I'll EVER be tho lol. Many fans hate on her for her privileges and being an enforcer and see her as bad or annoying. And sure, she can be naive and blinded by her privileged upbringing (through no fault of her own as parents shape their children), but that's also what makes her such a compelling character in that she has some of THE MOST character growth in the series thus far. I'm very interested, but nervous, how s2 will treat her, but I hope if everything must hit rock bottom that she (and Vi) can still get a happy ending.
Not to mention the character is half "Asian" (technically Ionian in lore because it's a fantasy world, but basically Asian)
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I fear the attack on her mother will drive Caitlyn into a sharp turn into aggressive conservatism to punish Jink and by extension Zahn for the attack. So much that Caitlyn will go"with us or against us" with Vi forced to become an Enforcer and hunt Jinx.
And she will abandon Vi when Vi refuses to.
I’m scared that you may be right 😬😬😬
It's also a good thing to note that Caitlyn gave Jinx a second chance by not killing her in that moment, majorly for Vi's sake and the goodness of her heart. That hesitation, that doubt of killing Jinx in that moment, then spiraled into Jinx very likely killing her mother and/or her closest friend.
And I think we all agree that Caitlyn giving Jinx a third chance after betraying her before (which is what led to this whole mess) is... Incredibly unlikely. Part of Caitlyn's gotta be blaming herself for not killing Jinx when she had the chance, and lowkey Caitlyn has every right to go full guns blazing, fully from her perspective. She's been nothing but open to understanding and got majorly screwed over sooo...
@@xdv0id420 And this is cycle of revenge that extended long before any of these characters were born and seems destined to carry them along too. The challenge in fiction or reality is trying to stop it before it consumes everything.
Cupcake is a very good character and funnily the only character with plot amour in its purist form (Progress day trap and she being the only survivor although being closest to the explosion).
But besides this she is probably the second character incorporated in the story from Topside after Grayson.
Because she is like Powder the embodiment of her city in its purist form.
Thats the reason she is so closely connected to every character more so than even Vi or Powder.
I love the fact that she is gay just because it adds just another layer of conflict and tragedy to her and I love myself some layers lol.
Great video.
Have a nice day
AEther
Thanks for watching, Aether! 😄
Haven’t watched the video yet, but I noticed that the text on the thumbnail is quite similar to the thumbnail of Idle Scree’s Caitlyn video posted about a week ago. It’s likely a coincidence, but if it’s not then a mention in the video or even just the description goes a long way.
As always, love your Arcane character breakdowns! I’m eager to dive into this one 😁
I was thinking the exact same thing as soon as I saw this
Oh wow! I had no idea, total coincidence 😄 it’s nice to hear that more people see this about her too though
You're right Caitlyn’s desire to grow is inspiring
What did the alien cat say when it landed on Earth?
"Take me to your litter"
LOLOL this one got me
J'aime beaucoup tes analyses. Tu es belle à voir partager ta passion pour les personnages et les histoires et tu es vraiment intéressante à écouter. Merci pour tout et j'ai bien hâte pour la suite !
Merci beaucoup! It means a lot to hear that! 😄
Awkward rizz? Caitlyn has excellent rizz! She was just initially surprised.
Best girl Caitlyn!! You knocked it out of the park! I absolutely love genuine, insightful analyses of Arcane characters but especially Caitlyn's since we're really lacking in that department. I could eat this up!!! She's somehow one of the most hated, loved AND misunderstood characters in Arcane, and you did her justice. I love love how people keep finding more and more parallels between her and Jinx as well. There's just so much there and it's just so uuuggghhh i love it. I can't wait for her character regression in season 2 (it'll hurt so bad) and how she gets back to being the loveable good-hearted cupcake we all love and adore. Lastly, thank you for making this video 🫶🏽
Thank you for watching and for your comment! It was really fun to make this, I can’t help but relate to Caitlyn, and it so cool to see a sheltered girl like her NOT be portrayed as weak. As naive as she may be she’s pretty kickass!
@@lydiscott Yes, despite starting off as a trope, I love how this show explores characters in such interesting ways and subverts expectations. Despite not being an only child I still relate to her so much. She's a great role model on being able to work through her ignorance, accept hard truths, and simply WANTING to grow.
Caitlyn has been my favorite character since season 1 episode 4, I always like her good characteristics and her bad characteristics too, the show has a very incredible way of showing her kindness and intelligence but also dont hide her ignorance, naivity and willingness to use her position for what she wants, in this case falsifying the document to get Vi out or not being fired even before for her constant investigations, if it was another person they would have been fired long before, that and many other things creates the separation between her and her coworkers and she wouldnt have been able to get Vi out that easily. It was something good for us becasuse we like Vi but if she could do that for her, she could do that for another person that may have really committed a crime if she wanted to, just because she has the power, is corruption and a broken system and they dont hide that from us, the audience and the interesting part is that I thing that she isnt even aware of this, she gets upset by being given a lot of things when she realizes is just for her family name, but she is so used to it that a lot of things doesnt register in her mind, it isnt in bad fate, it is just her life. We can see different sides of her not only watchin her but seeing how other people see her, how Jayce trust her, how Vi see her at the beginning and how her opinion changes, how Jinx see her, even how Marcus see her, I love his line "she is like all of them, I cant control her" showing his frustration with the upper class even if he himselfis very judgamental of the undercity.
And yes her and Jinx are so much alike, if we just take appearances, both have blue hair, they both have natural blue eyes, Caitlyns design is very similar in the sense that she has very sharp features like Jinx and Silco (something that cought my attention since the beginning because in character designe those are features for antagonist or villans, having those characteristics in a character shown to be very gentle was interesting especially in a show that is all about opposites, like Vi having very round and cute features even if she is the "strong, violent one" that have usualy more square features). In personality and abilities both are extremely inteligent, both are great with guns, and both want to prove something to somebody else or themselves and like Vi said, both are very obsesive.
honestly she is a character that I relate to in an absurd amount of ways, for what we see in the new trailer I know she will be in a very dark path, that makes me so sad, I understand her pain for what happened to her at the end of s1 but I will not defend her if she does wrong things, even if this happens I think she will always be a very important character for me.
I grew up with very loving parents, they protected me and my older brother a lot, we both were very sick when we where kids so they always cared a lot for us, I dont usally go out much even now as an adult because I like to stay indoors, so I dont have a lot of expirience outside besides work and normal life things but I share the sentiment of wanting to prove my abilities in the things I do in life and of course wanting to be more independant comming from a protective home.
My family is not rich,we are a normal family that need to work to afford things but that doesnt stop me for relating to her a lot because even if we dont have a lot of money we have more privilages than other people in my country and i have always had a very good life, and it is good to be aware of this. Even if she is an only child the relationship between Jayce and her is very special because he is like her big brother and I relate a lot to that, they care and trust in eachother.
The scene that just blew me away was when she tells the other guards about the airships, I tend to do that or say random facts, my friends know that it isnt with bad intentions and I try not to do that with strangers because it can be taken badly and I just felt so much empathy for her in this scene and i can talk of more scenes but this is already too long 😅.
Also I watched this show almost 3 years ago, I didn't know about their LoL lore but I loved it scince episode 1 started, i wasn't expecting the show to have two lesbian characters with such an obvious connection and in that time i had accepted that I am Bi just a few months before so it was a very awesome surprise and it was something very special for me at that time in my life that i was just accepting myself.
Loved the video❤
I can't believe there're people who think she's just visual or Vi's (unofficial) girlfriend. The thing that grabbed me the most was her skills (especially the scene where Jinx was shooting)
Ya I’ll admit I’m totally guilty of viewing Caitlyn through a very Vi-centric lens in the past, because Vi is such an interesting character as well, but when I realized this I was like “oh crap I need to do right by Caitlyn here” lol. She’s got so much more to her than just being Vi’s anchor.
i expected this to have more views amazing video cait is one of my favss!!
I’m so glad you liked it! 😄 thank you for the kind words!
Caitlyn forgives easily and doesn't hold grudges. She really stands out from the rest of the characters on that point.
thank you for this video ! arcane’s rendition of cait is one of my favourite fictional characters of all time , it’s lovely to see her getting some love
Can't wait to see a Baking video. One cake for each character you treated on this channel x)
OH GOD
@@lydiscott Can’t step back now 🤪
Honestly thank you for the video, your analysis is spot on ✨💯😏
New comer to your channel, just finished your Edge runners videos and moved on to these. You really put your heart into this, and I'd be a liar if I said you haven't hit me in feels in more than a few times now. Keep it up!! You do great work!
Awwww seriously thank you so much for watching and for letting me know this 😊
Oil and water can’t mix naturally. Only through force to mix them can something new be created.
This cupcake requires a BLENDER
@@lydiscott Giggidy.
Ah, but one can use an emulsifier! And that is their shared experience :)
After doing whatever she could think of to break free from overprotection, she finds her calling in protecting a protector. I love that. There’s a moment in episode 7 that’s been pointed out but I haven’t really appreciated until now: when Jinx shoots at Caitlin and Vi on the bridge, before Vi pushes Cait out of the way you can actually briefly see Cait trying to shield Vi with her arm.
Love Caitlyn so much! Thank you for this video. 💚
Glad you enjoyed! 😄
I can't wait to see all the new fanart- I mean character development from S2. Caitlyn is one of those characters that you just feel kind of relieved to have on screen in a series like this, shes such a grounding force for the people around her in S1
Prolly my fave character
I recently and randomly watched your video on Sevika, that and this have both been great videos so I will be checking out more of your channel. Like many, I watched cartoons when I was younger and although I have no issues with animation as a form of storytelling it's generally not a big part of what I enjoy as an adult. I never played the game but something drew me to it when it came out. I actually watched it twice at the time but haven't actually returned to it. This level of animation and quality of vocal performances gives so much emotional resonance to well-written characters. There are no weak points to the storytelling and you have a wonderful way of engaging with that emotion with your inflections.
Always so good Liddy. Can't wait to see the next one. Arcane or Cyberpunk we'll always watch and learn.
It just occurred to me what the perfect summary for Caitlyn's likely season 2 arc is:
"In the pursuit of great, we failed to do good. We have to make it right."
Just like Jayce and Viktor, just like Vander, heck even Silco in the end. She sees legitimate flaws and failings in her society, but she is continuously held back from fixing them by a corrupt system and by people who don't share her urgency to fix it NOW. Until eventually she decides to fix the problem all on her own, even if that means compromising her morals to achieve it, but then finally coming to regret that choice once the collateral damage it has led to becomes too much for her to stomach
Who wants to do a couples costume with me? Be the Caitlyn to my Vi!
this is such a Good essay
Aw thank you!
I look at theories regarding S2, and info direct from the makers that says Vi and Jinx's story ends with S2, but for the rest, I've been waiting this long. I can wait til it comes to Netflix.
SAME! I can handle some things being spoiled but not for this story
I’m LIVING for the Caitlyn appreciation and love!!!!! My girl deserves it! 🥹
As a greek Caitlyn name is an Irish origin but the name originally comes from the Greek one Αἰκατερίνη (Aikaterine)/Κατερίνα (Katerina) Also I love the fact that her mothers name is also Greek Cassandra (Κασσάνδρα) and it means '' the one who shines or excels over a man'' showing that she is the ruler of the family and for a fact the Kiramman name IS matrilineal
oh diva what a great vid
I immediately started singing the Cher song in my head😂you’re not alone there sister!
I feel like i watched a video on this exact topic about a week ago
Fantastic content
Hellohello. Very much enjoying your Arcane character series. With your eye for symbolism, have you considered doing a colour analysis of the show?
The blue of Piltover's enforcer uniforms and hex tech. The pink of Zaun and shimmer. How Vi's hair is definitively of Zaun, and Powder's showing how her love of tinkering and tech would be a perfect fit for Piltover had she been born there. Their mother's being blue like Caitlyn's implying that Vi has succumbed to Zaun because she had to. The alternating blue and pink of Jinx's nails capturing her twin mental states, and the final change in eye colour post-shimmer.
And speckled between all that, the green of Ekko's third way and the red of the external threat represented by Mel's mother and Noxus.
Schnee did really solid dive into Caitlyn that really resonated with me
FUCKING LOVE SCHNEE
A small detail that’s in the scene right before Caitlyn escapes Vi, Vi rolls her shoulder. She does this almost every time before or mid fight. Perhaps it’s the shoulder she broke after the factory when debris fell on her. I doubt prison was a spectacular place to heal a bone correctly.
That’s a very good observation!
18:01 Please, Freud can't keep getting away with it.
LOL
Ahh Cait's a sentinel you say, no wonder she can build titanic-bruiser and still carry the game. Anyway, love the analysis
Loved the video ❤ the only thing that doesn't apply to Caitlyn is the fact that in Arcane's world homophobia doesnt exist, it is completely normal and common for same sex people to be partners, so at least she doesn't have to worry about that, and one of the writers said that her family passes the family legacy to the women line in the family, the only thing to consider is if Caitlyn wants to have a child in her future because it would be very bad for her if she doesn't want a child and she is the only one in line for the family leadership, but maybe she has more family that can take her place 🤷 Also Amanda, one of the writers kind of said that Caitlyn had the tendency of sneaking girls to her bedroom through the window when she was younger, that seeing Cait and Vi enter her room wasnt a new experience for Caitlyn 's mother 😂. For the interactions that Vi and Caitlyn have i think that Caitlyn is the one with far more expirence in dating and flirting because obviously Vi has been in jail since she was 15. Caitlyn was just taken aback when Vi pushed her to the wall, she looks very comfortable with the woman in the brothel, since that scene I have always thought that she is kind of a womaniser, Vi flirts and jokes a lot but i think it is part of a defensive or protective mechanism at first and also she just likes to joke around.
Should I watch this show? Is it good?
This is my sister. She won’t watch the show no matter how many times I tell her she should. Please tell her to watch the show lmao
@@lydiscott😂
The short answer is yes.
The long answer is that I spoiled myself the entire shows plot points just to scream at the TV for „hiding away“ the rest of the story.
I wanted to kill the creators for actually achieving something only few writers can: „Create People“.
The fact that this show shouldn’t even work and on top is an ad (in theory) to sell skins in LoL is absolutely insane.
This show has no right to be this good.
I personally am 700ish hours in analyzing this series and Im still finding stuff I didn’t thought about that change the entirety of my perception.
The reason for this is a character network that is able to introduce and develop a character in 8min to the point we hate her but then understand her.
And honestly now is the best time to start as you will be able to watch the show and then watch season 2 right after so you get the combined package instead of waiting 3 years.
there's a YTer who is a psychologist (Psyculturists) who recorded 3+ hour reaction and analysis videos for each ~45 minute episode. There's another YTer who's a writer (Schnee) who has done something like 100 analysis videos.
For my part, I'm not usually into tragedy. I find myself arguing with the writers most of the time when they try to do tragedy. I don't buy the motivation of the characters, or the chain of cause and effect, or the psychological model that the writers based their characters' reactions on, or whatever. But with Arcane I can't do that. Everything is so solidly established that it feels deterministic - that from the starting conditions of the show it would always turn out the way it did. So there's no choice but to just accept the tragedy.
I seek flaws in everything I come into contact with. Nothing is pleasing to me. Arcane I only had a single complaint and it is incredibly minor. It might be the best thing I've seen. THe first 3 episodes contain more character development, feel and plot than most series contain in a season. It is gutwrenching. The animation opened my mind to new ways to display emotions in visual media. Everthing is beautiful or transcendent. Watch it. It might be the best thing I've come into contact with. It knocked other 10/10 shows down to 9 just to make place for arcane.
I like your visual annotations method of additional context to the work though it means I can't look away for long.
Also, you can't bake too much. You just need a larger distribution system to get your excess creations to more hungry mouths for disposal. :)
Ahhh thank you! I’m so glad! I really enjoy annotations in videos like these (altschiftx and Schnee come to mind!) so I figured I’d try them out! 😄 I remember things better when I can read. And YKNOW WHAT YOURE RIGHT LMAO I must work on my distribution! 😂
Caitlyn herself didn't know how to answer Graysons question. She shoots Savika only to stop her attack on Vi, she protects in season 1, but in season 2 i bet she will def hurt someone with her rifle.
I love her pure heart in season one and I'm afraid Jinx killing her mother will ruin it 😭 hopefully she's able to pull back by the end of the season before she goes too deep.
Yaaaaa hopefully! Fingers crossed!
Vi is the Virgin, Caitlin is the top
Oil and water don't mix.
Ok man add some dishsoap. Let Warwick be dishsoap with all the chemicals he has in him 😂 therapy dogg
Therapy dog 🤣
Hey, this is a crazy good channel and I’m really happy to have subbed to it early. I really think you’re gonna grow big with how thoughtful your content and own conclusion are. Do you write yourself?
Oh FUCK YEAH ANOTHER ESSAY!!!
WEEWOOO
Pow-Pow is the minigun, Fishbones is the missile launcher
AH THANK YOU I’m sorry I don’t know anything about league lmao
@@lydiscott (:
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28:52 Like Jean!
Sevika/Caitlyn power couple season 2
Here early!
WOOO thank you! 😂
Caitlyn is fine AF!
Careful, someone is writing spoilers in the comments below. Jerk.
Can you do a video of khan from Metro 2033
He was cool!
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#byevi ❤
she's also Maddie's girlfriend! ♥