My dad was in a group that serviced those B-17 and B-24 bombers from Spokane, Washington. They were in England a while but spent most of WWII in North Africa and finally in Italy. He died in 2008 just short of his 102 birthday,
Charles Hansen Wow that’s amazing Charles. My grandpa flew B24s out of England briefly along with Jimmy Stewart before his squadron also were deployed to North Africa then Italy just as you mentioned, where he flew the rest of his missions... I wonder if they knew each other?!? Flying over the Adriatic and Italy to bomb the Ruhr valley, the Ploesti oil fields, Munitions factories in Austria and southern Germany, incredibly dangerous missions with huge losses each time out. I just found grandpas flight log from 1943-1944 2 weeks ago... he wrote on every mission .it was riveting but rough to read through them ...
@@ScottRutledge My dad said there were several units in North Africa and they did not get to see them. He did say they would count the returning aircraft every time and they missed the ones that did not come back.
As a crew member on the B-25 Panchito. I can attest to the ongoing maintenance and training is a never ending job. You have to meet or exceed FAA rules and Regs. People say there 80 year old airplanes which is true but they are in better shape than most cars on the roads today. Most general aviation airplanes are around 40-50 years old. Again they must meet FAA standards as well as the pilots. Yes it's sad that accidents happen and the NTSB will get the answers so that we learn. Keep 'em Flying!
My heart and tears go out to the crew, the Collings Foundation, the injured and the lost souls. I know how much the crew and the foundation loved this aircraft. I had the honor and privilege of flying on board her when she was in Oxnard Calif this year. It was an amazing experience. That's saying a lot coming from me....I'm first generation American... my heritage is German. This bomber destroyed every major city in a country I love. Yet I still love the B-17, because of it's aura of invincibility, it's brute military attitude. It was a brilliant and devastating military design. I felt the power of it's personality, it's ruggedness and it's mean attitude when I was on board. Thank you, to all of you for the experience. Michael. Thousand Oaks, CA
My grandfather flew the B-17 and B-24 during WWII. That very B-17 flew over my house every year here in Colorado. I watched it fly just two months ago. Very saddened by the loss of life and the historic plane.
I saw this airplane two weeks ago in my city and rode on it 3 years ago. I cant believe that this happened and express my condolences to all of the victims. As a pilot, I need to know how and why this tragedy happened and await the results of the investigation. I also express my complete support for the Collings Foundation and all of its people in this time of tragedy.
I got to tour 909 and Witchcraft in Hollister CA years ago. Loved every second of it. Met an old WWII pilot who came to see his old plane (Witchcraft). Stood with a bunch of people and listened to him recount his experiences. His love for his old plane was obvious. What the Collings Foundation does is amazing, and the whole organization is stellar.
Jessie, Thank you fot this tribute to the war birds. I had the VERY DISTINCT honor to have a chance to ride along with my father-in-law Ralph Black, a WWII B17 pilot. What a thrill. Our hearts go out to those who lost their lives and were injured in the Hartford crash of the B17. Bless you and your family, I never miss your blogs.
Thank you for all of this. I will mention two things that hit home for me. First, I got a ride on a different B-17 several years ago, and strangely, it really opened my eyes to the horror that those crews went though. And what I caused me to think about that was something actually quite irrelevant, but it made me think just the same. The thing is, we think of these planes as big, powerful, well-defended machines, but once on board, I realized that they are actually quite small - smaller than most modern commuter planes. When I realized that an average person can reach out with both hands and touch opposite sides of the fuselage back by the door-gunner's positions, it made me realize that enemy bullets and flack fragments whizzing through such a small volume of space were bound to hit people. And that hands-on experience made me realize in a more tangible way just how dangerous the missions flown by those crews really were. Second, your comment about not speculating about the cause of the crash is spot-on. These days we have an epidemic of people starting rumors and believing rumors without the slightest shred of evidence. The internet has var more of such garbage than it does verified content. Because of that, I agree with the commenter who mentioned the TH-camr named Blancolirio. He's a guy who works hard to present true facts and to debunk the nonsense about the topics he chooses to address.
I was around these Birds here in Colodaro and as a Veteran we worked the event here. These Birds are kept in great shape and we are ALL so fortunate to be able to interact with these liberating birds. Praying for the foundation and those involved.
My father flew B24's in WW2 out of England. We made a contribution to the Collins Foundation to support the B24 and he got to fly in the plane a few years before he died in his 90's. It was a thrill for him and a lot of fun for our family. His name was painted on the plane as a contributer. E.T. Davis
My Dad flew over 30 missions out of Italy in 1943 in the B-17. He died many years ago and Nine O Nine was my connection to the fact that these planes brought him back every time.
I remember getting to help hand wash this B17 at oshkosh as a kid. I remember the pride I felt and gratitude for the opportunity to have a small, small, part in its care. I later joined the Air Force to work on aircraft as a crew chief, in some small part because of this B17. Years later, we purchased a ride on this B17 for my father for fathers day. Excellent crew, excellent aircraft, and awesome foundation worthy of supporting. Thanks for this video Jesse. Well said, and thanks.
@Mark Kepler The stains left on the aviation world from this incident will be felt for some time to come. We are left with more questions about the future of flights like this, perhaps in part due to the fact that some of the answers aren't pretty.
It a sad day when you see a plane crash that was apart of are history's lot's of time and work in rebuilding in those planes my heart go out for the crew and family members
A little bit of extra history on these planes from a CT resident... The props were manufactured by Hamilton Standard, now part of Collins Aerospace, and the engines by Pratt and Whitney. Both companies are located in Connecticut. In the 1950s Hamilton Standard opened their plant in Windsor Locks CT (where Bradley airport is located, about 15min north of Hartford CT) which is across the street from BDL where the accident occurred. Having these planes at the airport is always cool because it's like a coming home event for them and many families in the area have had family members who have worked for these companies.
I rode on that plane (Nine o' nine) a few years ago. Prayers for those lost & injured and the families affected; what a tragedy. While some are now questioning it, I still support the foundation and what they are doing; living history captures things in a way a photo and a paragraph never can. I remember the veterans at the event and the one in a wheelchair lifted into the plane, and his reaction after the flight. While I could never claim to fully understand, after that I better appreciated the generation that gave so much to keep the world free. I hope the foundation can find a way to keep bringing that to more people.
@Roger Clemons I would thank Soviet and other WW2 vets too if/when I ever meet them. That's why I said "that generation" and not "those Americans" or "that airplane". (1) Stalin wasn't fighting for freedom, funny you said Stalin and not "Soviet forces" who were fighting to stay "free-er" at least. Stalin mostly fought for territory. (2) You forgot several other theaters (Pacific, Italy, North Africa) where Soviet participation was less, as well as China where they did participate but it was not German forces. (3) I can find no justification for 98% anywhere. German forces were depleted, and less trained than earlier forces, but still nowhere near 2% of peak. Maybe I'm missing something though; please send a citation if you have one.
My Uncle was a Right Waist Gunner on a B-17 in WW II .He was shot and killed over Austria in April of 1944 . The name of the B-17 was called the Spitten Kitten .The serial number on the plane was 231857 .The 97th Bomb Group .
Sorry about your Uncle, lost a second cousin, twice removed just after crossing the Rhine on 24 Mar 45 - all gave some and some gave all. But I definitely love the name of the aircraft!
Great Video. My wife and I flew on this same B-17 (the 909) years ago when it visited Mid-America airport, IL (Scott AFB). As a former USAF aircraft mechanic and now I work in the aerospace industry, it was one of the greatest experiences of my life. Just the fact that there are so few of these historic aircraft still around puts my experience above the refueling flights I took when in the USAF in a KC-135E. Those planes are no spring chickens themselves. My heart goes out to the families of those lost. The 909 will be missed. If I remember correctly the B-17 had a crew of 10. Pilot Co-Pilot Navigator Radio Operator Flight Engineer Bombardier Left Waist Gunner Right Waist Gunner Ball Turret Gunner Tail Gunner Every plane that was shot down in WWII was a loss of 10 lives. The planes skin is thin aluminum.
This is Not Clickbait this is in the algorithm due to the recent disaster in Dallas! The story here is of another accident 3 years ago! Before commenting it would be wise to peruse time stamp then proceed to keep your eyes and ears open before you open your pie hole!
Huge props to you Jesse for bringing this up and also supporting this group. My grandpa flew B-24s in WWII and I have a huge soft spot in my heart for all of these amazing men who risked so much for us and the amazing huge bombers that they flew, B-24s, B-17s, B-25s and B-26s.... thanks so much for caring about this. This truly matters, as do these great men who are still with us .
I have been on all these planes, I used to go every year with my daughters papa, he would clean and work on the planes when they came to our airport, they work so hard to repair and fix these planes, I have met the people you met, and collings foundation is AMAZING
My wife and I got to fly on the Collings Foundation's B-17 several years ago. I was an incredible experience. The crew were absolutely wonderful people. It heartbreaking to think they are gone. Our thoughts and prayers are with all those involved.
I flew in that aircraft 10-years ago with my (then) 87-year-old former B-17 co-pilot...dad. Was a very special time for him and we've been supporters of the Collings folks for a long time. So very sad for the families of the victims and for the whole Collings Foundation - they are awesome folks.
It's so sad. I live in Connecticut my kids went to the air show a few weekends ago where they were showing this amazing peice of history. The news is coming out slowly but no matter what the news has to say it's incredibly tragic for everyone from family members of those who were lost to the emergency personnel who were witness to the disaster. My prayers go out to all of them
It's really a shame that the FAA investigation revealed that there were serious shortcuts in maintenance and safety procedures. Not only will those shortcuts affect these families forever, but many people will be deprived of opportunities in the future. Simple fact: engines 3 and 4 had internal damage from malfunctioning magnetos. The pilot was also the mechanic and safety officer. The Collings Foundation was decertified from flying due to serious deficiencies in adherence to safety protocols.
I shed a few tears yesterday. We went through Nine O Nine back in July in Kalispell ... it was humbling to say the least, and to see some of those WW2 veterans in attendance - wow. Seeing that old fella get a ride in the P51 was awesome as well - I figured he was a pilot. My heart goes out to these folks and their surviving family & friends - what a tragedy. Thanks for posting this.
Excellent post. My father was a volunteer at the Foundation and helped restore and then fly the B-17 and several of their other aircraft. The care with which they treat those planes is unmatched. Terrible tragedy.
Great sentiments my friend. It was truly a huge loss to lose that plane and its dedicated crew. I live in Whitefish, and when Collings was here about 10 years or so ago, I took my dad to see the planes. He was a Navy pilot in Korea and VietNam who flew multi engines. In Korea, he flew the PB4Y2, the Navy version of the B24. I was able to have an in depth chat with the crew chief and pilot, told them my dads story. We had just returned from DC, where he was awarded a Presidential Unit Citation for the squadron he initiated and flew with in VietNam called VO67. When I told them he flew PB's, they took us up at no charge, let him sit in the co-pilots seat and let him take the controls once they got off the ground. It was truly one of the most incredible sights for me, seeing my dad in his glory. He passed away last year, and before he went, he brought up that flight. Thank you for posting this.
Your Dad I'm sure was a Top Shelf individual. Wish I could've thanked him for his service. My Dad was a Navy Seabee during WW2 & my Uncle Roger (who just died) was an Army Air Corps pilot who flew B-17s & B-29s in WW2, bombers in Korea & Viet Nam, then was an airline pilot thru the 60s.
They gave tours and rides at my airport last year at KAOH. I'm the general manager. I was honored with a ride into AOH from the previous tour stop in Indiana. They let me bring my step dad who has ALS before he lost full use of his legs. Then another ride in Nine O Nine and yet again at AOH and another ride in Witchcraft the B24. We had the B25 and the 51 here as well. It was such an honor to be part of the team. I can't imagine the loss of the crew and passengers. Terrible loss. Thoughts and prayers to the family and pilots, crews, and passengers.
I flew in both this b-17 and the b-24 on June 24, 2017 from the museum of flight in Seattle. That was such a wonderful day! One of the best days of my life so far! My heart is so heavy right now!! To every one at the Collings Foundation: you rock!! I'm SO SORRY for your loss!!
I had the privilege and honor of flying on the Nine-O-Nine at Spokane Wa. in 2014. I was still flying high for two days after the ride of a lifetime. You see my father was a Ball Turret Gunner on a B-17 WW2 did 35 combat missions. I having nothing but respect and admiration for all our WW2 Soldiers, Air Corp, Sailors and Marines. Salute!
What we now know, a year later, was that they did NOT actually go through the proper amount of safety training and maintenance. With two engines on one side essentially inoperative from the start and incorrect pilot recovery attempt, the plane was doomed.
Jesse, Thanks for the kind words, I'm a volunteer at The Collings Foundations , American Heritage Museum WW2 Tank collection. We are all shocked and saddened by the loss of so many live. Our thoughts and prayers go out to all the families involved.....
I have a sister that works close by the airport. When I heard of the accident that morning all I was imagining was that plane crashed into her building where she worked. It did not but I still think of what the pilot and co pilot must of gone through trying to get that plane down safely. They never gave up trying even in their last moments of life. They are heroes.
My thoughts to everyone that have been impacted by this tragic accident. I had the honor of touring this plane with my wife and 10 year old daughter this summer. All will be missed...
As a pilot this is heartbreaking and I send all condolences to the families of the victims of this terrible accident. At the same time well said and thank you for your tribute.
I always wanted to ride on the B-24 to honor my dad, and experience a little of his life as a nose turret gunner with the 8th AF in England in WWII. My dad would have been 103 last Monday; his experience in WWII, with his crew, flying 38-39 missions over Europe, were some of the most important days of his life.
"Wait 'till all the facts come out..." Well, they're out now, and it ain't pretty. Poorly maintained, haphazard and unprofessional maintenance protocols, and the PIC of the crash plane was head of maintenance.
Too bad that there is no follow up to this video. You couldn’t pay me enough to jump in one of those, that are amazing but they should not be allowed to fly let alone fly passengers.
Plane crashes are always personal to every pilot. It is a small community who support every other Pilot. I am happy that you got the chance to experience that plane and its pilots.
I feel like shedding tears everytime a b-17 crashes. My dad was a B-17 pilot (and later, piloted the B-29) during WW2, and I learned a great deal from him about the aircraft, as well as the folks who flew these incredible machines, as well as the other aircraft. At 76 years of age, I still have his copy of a flight instruction manual, as well as his silver wings and other items.
I saw and climbed through that plane in Nashua just this past Saturday. I've been going every year for many years, as "Wings of Freedom" invariably comes to one airport or another in my vicinity. Collings is a great organization, bringing history alive in an era when the primary education curriculum hardly covers any history at all. They have a massive encampment of Allied and Axis reenactors and a big WWII battle dramatization every October at their facility in Stow, and they always stress during the program that the war is nothing to glorify, but to learn from, so we don't keep having to fight wars over and over again through the generations. All three of their bombers have flown over my housing co-op at one time or another. The B-17 'Nine 0 Nine' was my very favorite of the planes on the tour. Two years ago I had a flight in the B-25 'Tondelayo' and it was a superlative experience; always hoped to fly in the B-17 someday. And now that beautiful tail and part of a wing are all that is left of it, and seven people who love vintage planes as much as I do have been killed in one. My heart goes out to their families, and to Collings in what certainly is their worst nightmare. It all just seems surreal.
Very nice tribute to the work of the Collings Foundation. Sad for the loss of lives and injuries resulting from the Nine O Nine crash. My father was a waist gunner on B17's in England during WWII. I took my mother to see the B17 "Aluminum Overcast" when it was at Fairfield Airport in NJ several years ago. Thanks for taking the time to post
What a great service to keep the memory of the greatest people in modern times overcoming humanity's greatest challenge in this way. Passenger and crew, they all deserve our support and sympathy. Prayers for those that serve and those that honor that service with all they have.
Update: the FAA have released their preliminary report. Its scathing to say the least. Unqualified flight engineer; over age limit Captain; multiple engine problems on two engines; carrying passengers without seating and seat belts; doctored maintenence records. So they have revoked Collings ability to carry paying passengers and it opens the door to massive lawsuits from families who lost loved ones in the crash.
My thoughts are with the families who have lost loved ones. Thanks for getting the words out. Totally agree that these are not just airplanes, it's our history..
This plane flew over our home last week and gave me chills. Just think how important these planes and the men who flew them were to the history of our country. The loss of life is a huge tragedy.
I work at an airport that helps support the collings foundation once a year, we have them stage their aircrafts on our main ramp and they operate through us for free. Since I worked the events I was given the chance to fly in the B-17 in 2018 and I flew in the B-25 this year. Amazing opportunity to come across and I will be forever grateful. I love this foundation and I hope this isn't the end of it.
I flew on the B-24 back when it was called The Dragon and His Tail. Every story my grandfather told me of his B-24 adventures in WW2 came to life on that flight. Truly an amazing experience. John Collins' foundation does AMAZING things to bring history to life.
I was working on the airstrip and saw the whole crash happen up close. You are absolutely right about the crew trying so hard to land that plane, you could tell they were very experienced and my heart goes out to all the people and families involved
Really? Wow! I read that they actually touched down on runway 6 so they had landed but immediately upon touching down something went wrong and they went into the DE icing tanks is that correct?
If you have eyewitness information please contact your air accident investigation body. Is it NTSB over there? Or would it be FAA? It's called The AAIB here in England.
My uncle survived a B-17 crash during training, here in the states. There was a problem with the air/fuel mixture system that caused some planes to go into full lean, which stalled the engines on take-off. I'm glad he survived. I would never have known him had he not. And I'm blessed to have known him. He was a great guy.
A report just came out that the FAA has pulled their license to carry passengers for pay, due to lax safety protocols. The engines were poorly maintained, in addition to other problems.
My sincerest condolences to the flight crew and passengers who perished and were injured that day. I was fortunate enough to see the 9o9 here in Kearney, NE, along with the Liberator and the P-51 Mustang this summer 2019. I have pictures of the 9o9 if needed. Very sorry this happened.
I agree: we should never jump to conclusions. But now it's a year later. The #3 and #4 engines were poorly maintained, the ignition systems were set up incorrectly, one ignition coil was faulty, several pistons showed damage from unaddressed detonation and one cylinder was badly corroded. Everything points to sloppy maintenance. Furthermore, the pilot never ran up the engines prior to takeoff. He never declared an emergency, even when both both engine on the right wing were out, a dangerous situation indeed. And one more thing: the pilot skipped his chance to land on the cross runway and instead flew much, much further in an attempt to reach the main. He didn't make it as he simply ran out of altitude. Seven people died as a result. An entirely preventable accident.
I'm glad someone posted this. It also needs to be noted that the pilot of this aircraft was basically single-handedly doing all the maintenance himself (unsupervised) along with flying it. In response to this and the above, the Collings foundation's 'Living History' Type Flight certifications were revoked grounding all their operations (though this may have since been reinstated). I completely agree it is important not to jump to conclusions and that flying and maintaining aircraft is expensive but this crash was completely and wholly preventable
@@topiasr628 Yes the pilot was doing the mataince as he was the head of the maintenance program for the foundation. They should have had a whole team in charge of manintance. The FAA needs to revise the certifatction of these airplanes and take a more active roll in there abilty to fley.
Flying vintage aircraft is a risk I’m willing to take. The joy and exhilaration of flying a plane of this caliber cannot be compared with any other type of flying.
Thanks for sharing and sorry for "your" loss and the loss of the crew and passengers too. Working with the ships crew and actually seeing aircraft in person makes it especially emotional. Being a person who works in the aerospace industry I get affected by this sort of thing because I know the work and commitment that it takes to build and maintain and fly these works of art. RIP Nine O Nine and here family.
This makes me especially sad I flew on that exact plane 2 years ago and I met the same people. It’s so sad and I’m so sorry for the crew, the families, and everyone involved
I flew on Nine O Nine last year and shot the whole flight on my go pro. My heart is broken. My prayers for all those involved in the crash and to the Collings Foundation. I need to post my flight up on my channel in the next day or so.
On D-day, June 6, 1944, my Dad landed on Omaha Beach. I have a photo of my dad receiving the Silver Star for saving two wounded guys carrying them to safety during the battle of the bulge. My hero
I believe they will, but the foundation needs our support. As do all of the other great organizations that preserve, maintain and fly these amazing aircraft. Rough times may be coming. Educate your friends. Educate your family. Most of all, educate a stranger.
13 people on board, 7 dead. Such a shame all round. RIP. And there is so few of these planes left too. But I'm glad they keep them flying. Planes are built to fly.
@@johnosbourn4312 3 or 4 flyable B-17s that are actually flying now as of 2022. 3 birds retired and were grounded due to financial issues related to COVID and Texas Raiders sadly was destroyed in Dallas.
David, Jeroen, and others..This video was a comment on the crash in 2019 at Bradley Airport (BDL) in 2019. The Dallas collision was for me, as a pilot, more problematic since exhibition pilots in a very controlled airspace should never get anywhere near each other unless in a formation flight.
My friend in Oakland, CA built/engineered the bomb-simulation mechanical and electrical system that enabled visitors aboard the plane to see and feel what it was like to sight a target and deploy a bomb, using realtime mapping imagery in the scopes. He was and is extremeley passionate about the whole mission to share with people the gandeur and awesomeness of these WW2 planes.
My great uncle flew a B-24 in WWII. I had 10 great uncles (that I know of) who served in various branches of the military in WWII. Thanks for this video and for the link to Collings Foundation. This is soooo tragic.
. My grandfather was a B-17 Pilot I flew on the "Nine O Nine" with my Grandfather and his Navigator in the early 2000's the men said it was the first time to have 2 original crew members aboard and I was so lucky to have had the chance of a lifetime. Our hearts aces for everyone at collins and family. Thoughts and prayers are with all family and everyone the B'17 touched. The best experience of my life hands down.
The b-17 that crashed is not the original 909..it was just painted the same way.this one that crashed was built just before they stopped using them for war.
@@carloscortes5570 I really do not know other than I flew in a B-17 Called the Nine O Nine owned at the time by Collins foundation. Sorry for the confusion
Thanks for identifying the plane involved. I took a tour of that plane two years ago and was fascinated by it. When I heard about the crash, I had a bad feeling that it was the one I visited. But no article gave the name or tail number. Now I know. It's a great tragedy for everyone.
I clicked this video FIRED UP thinking you were going to come up with some conspiracy theory or something - now I'm sharing it to my social media pages as it mirrors exactly what I posted earlier. The warbird family is incredibly close, and this loss will be remembered for an eternity - along with the others we've lost over the years. No one does this because it's safe, they do it because seeing these machines operating after 75 years is something that you can't even begin to describe, and as you mentioned - the excitement and enthusiasm of veterans, children, etc at the air shows just makes all the blood sweat and tears worth it. Today it's tears... our winter maintenance will likely involve some blood (lol) and the summer airshow season = sweat. ;) Thanks for supporting the foundation! I work with CAF aircraft, but Collings is a class act their warbirds are literally flying museum pieces.
Thank you . I saw both Planes at our airport about 10 years ago . I am saddened by the loss of life and the plane . Both the B24 and the B17 were parked close to each other . I was able to stick my head up into the wheel well and Compare the Thickness of the wing on Both Planes . The Crew of the planes were very nice and answered questions . There were a few vets around who started telling unknown stories while in presence of the planes . The Collings foundation brought joy to many people by bringing the planes around on tour .
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My dad was in a group that serviced those B-17 and B-24 bombers from Spokane, Washington. They were in England a while but spent most of WWII in North Africa and finally in Italy. He died in 2008 just short of his 102 birthday,
Charles Hansen Wow that’s amazing Charles. My grandpa flew B24s out of England briefly along with Jimmy Stewart before his squadron also were deployed to North Africa then Italy just as you mentioned, where he flew the rest of his missions... I wonder if they knew each other?!? Flying over the Adriatic and Italy to bomb the Ruhr valley, the Ploesti oil fields, Munitions factories in Austria and southern Germany, incredibly dangerous missions with huge losses each time out. I just found grandpas flight log from 1943-1944 2 weeks ago... he wrote on every mission .it was riveting but rough to read through them ...
@@ScottRutledge My dad said there were several units in North Africa and they did not get to see them. He did say they would count the returning aircraft every time and they missed the ones that did not come back.
A tragedy, what these warbirds mean to us cannot be underestimated, best wishes from UK
Thank You
As a crew member on the B-25 Panchito. I can attest to the ongoing maintenance and training is a never ending job. You have to meet or exceed FAA rules and Regs. People say there 80 year old airplanes which is true but they are in better shape than most cars on the roads today. Most general aviation airplanes are around 40-50 years old. Again they must meet FAA standards as well as the pilots. Yes it's sad that accidents happen and the NTSB will get the answers so that we learn. Keep 'em Flying!
Does Larry Kelly still own Panchito?
Agreed.
I remember taking a ride in this exact same plane as a kid and it was an unforgettable experiance, this is absolutely heartbreaking
My heart and tears go out to the crew, the Collings Foundation, the injured and the lost souls.
I know how much the crew and the foundation loved this aircraft. I had the honor and privilege of flying on board her when she was in Oxnard Calif this year. It was an amazing experience. That's saying a lot coming from me....I'm first generation American... my heritage is German. This bomber destroyed every major city in a country I love. Yet I still love the B-17, because of it's aura of invincibility, it's brute military attitude. It was a brilliant and devastating military design. I felt the power of it's personality, it's ruggedness and it's mean attitude when I was on board. Thank you, to all of you for the experience. Michael. Thousand Oaks, CA
My grandfather flew the B-17 and B-24 during WWII. That very B-17 flew over my house every year here in Colorado. I watched it fly just two months ago. Very saddened by the loss of life and the historic plane.
I saw this airplane two weeks ago in my city and rode on it 3 years ago. I cant believe that this happened and express my condolences to all of the victims. As a pilot, I need to know how and why this tragedy happened and await the results of the investigation. I also express my complete support for the Collings Foundation and all of its people in this time of tragedy.
Poor maintenance, engines needed rebuilt.
I got to tour 909 and Witchcraft in Hollister CA years ago. Loved every second of it. Met an old WWII pilot who came to see his old plane (Witchcraft). Stood with a bunch of people and listened to him recount his experiences. His love for his old plane was obvious. What the Collings Foundation does is amazing, and the whole organization is stellar.
Plain and simple, stop watching the news, stop supporting them period, what you guys do with these planes is amazing, keep doing what you do
Well done Jessie this is a huge tragedy and blow for the preservation of aviation history worldwide
I got chills when I saw that 90 years young former mustang pilot climbing down from the cockpit ... the memories he must have had
Jessie, Thank you fot this tribute to the war birds. I had the VERY DISTINCT honor to have a chance to ride along with my father-in-law Ralph Black, a WWII B17 pilot. What a thrill. Our hearts go out to those who lost their lives and were injured in the Hartford crash of the B17. Bless you and your family, I never miss your blogs.
Thank you for all of this. I will mention two things that hit home for me.
First, I got a ride on a different B-17 several years ago, and strangely, it really opened my eyes to the horror that those crews went though. And what I caused me to think about that was something actually quite irrelevant, but it made me think just the same. The thing is, we think of these planes as big, powerful, well-defended machines, but once on board, I realized that they are actually quite small - smaller than most modern commuter planes. When I realized that an average person can reach out with both hands and touch opposite sides of the fuselage back by the door-gunner's positions, it made me realize that enemy bullets and flack fragments whizzing through such a small volume of space were bound to hit people. And that hands-on experience made me realize in a more tangible way just how dangerous the missions flown by those crews really were.
Second, your comment about not speculating about the cause of the crash is spot-on. These days we have an epidemic of people starting rumors and believing rumors without the slightest shred of evidence. The internet has var more of such garbage than it does verified content. Because of that, I agree with the commenter who mentioned the TH-camr named Blancolirio. He's a guy who works hard to present true facts and to debunk the nonsense about the topics he chooses to address.
I was around these Birds here in Colodaro and as a Veteran we worked the event here. These Birds are kept in great shape and we are ALL so fortunate to be able to interact with these liberating birds. Praying for the foundation and those involved.
My father flew B24's in WW2 out of England. We made a contribution to the Collins Foundation to support the B24 and he got to fly in the plane a few years before he died in his 90's. It was a thrill for him and a lot of fun for our family. His name was painted on the plane as a contributer. E.T. Davis
My Dad flew over 30 missions out of Italy in 1943 in the B-17. He died many years ago and Nine O Nine was my connection to the fact that these planes brought him back every time.
I remember getting to help hand wash this B17 at oshkosh as a kid. I remember the pride I felt and gratitude for the opportunity to have a small, small, part in its care. I later joined the Air Force to work on aircraft as a crew chief, in some small part because of this B17. Years later, we purchased a ride on this B17 for my father for fathers day. Excellent crew, excellent aircraft, and awesome foundation worthy of supporting. Thanks for this video Jesse. Well said, and thanks.
@Mark Kepler The stains left on the aviation world from this incident will be felt for some time to come. We are left with more questions about the future of flights like this, perhaps in part due to the fact that some of the answers aren't pretty.
It a sad day when you see a plane crash that was apart of are history's lot's of time and work in rebuilding in those planes my heart go out for the crew and family members
A little bit of extra history on these planes from a CT resident...
The props were manufactured by Hamilton Standard, now part of Collins Aerospace, and the engines by Pratt and Whitney. Both companies are located in Connecticut. In the 1950s Hamilton Standard opened their plant in Windsor Locks CT (where Bradley airport is located, about 15min north of Hartford CT) which is across the street from BDL where the accident occurred. Having these planes at the airport is always cool because it's like a coming home event for them and many families in the area have had family members who have worked for these companies.
I rode on that plane (Nine o' nine) a few years ago. Prayers for those lost & injured and the families affected; what a tragedy.
While some are now questioning it, I still support the foundation and what they are doing; living history captures things in a way a photo and a paragraph never can. I remember the veterans at the event and the one in a wheelchair lifted into the plane, and his reaction after the flight. While I could never claim to fully understand, after that I better appreciated the generation that gave so much to keep the world free. I hope the foundation can find a way to keep bringing that to more people.
Amen. Have to see it to understand. Media isn’t telling THIS part of the Collings Foundation story.
@Roger Clemons I would thank Soviet and other WW2 vets too if/when I ever meet them. That's why I said "that generation" and not "those Americans" or "that airplane".
(1) Stalin wasn't fighting for freedom, funny you said Stalin and not "Soviet forces" who were fighting to stay "free-er" at least. Stalin mostly fought for territory.
(2) You forgot several other theaters (Pacific, Italy, North Africa) where Soviet participation was less, as well as China where they did participate but it was not German forces.
(3) I can find no justification for 98% anywhere. German forces were depleted, and less trained than earlier forces, but still nowhere near 2% of peak. Maybe I'm missing something though; please send a citation if you have one.
My Uncle was a Right Waist Gunner on a B-17 in WW II .He was shot and killed over Austria in April of 1944 . The name of the B-17 was called the Spitten Kitten .The serial number on the plane was 231857 .The 97th Bomb Group .
Sorry about your Uncle, lost a second cousin, twice removed just after crossing the Rhine on 24 Mar 45 - all gave some and some gave all. But I definitely love the name of the aircraft!
Great Video.
My wife and I flew on this same B-17 (the 909) years ago when it visited Mid-America airport, IL (Scott AFB). As a former USAF aircraft mechanic and now I work in the aerospace industry, it was one of the greatest experiences of my life. Just the fact that there are so few of these historic aircraft still around puts my experience above the refueling flights I took when in the USAF in a KC-135E. Those planes are no spring chickens themselves. My heart goes out to the families of those lost. The 909 will be missed.
If I remember correctly the B-17 had a crew of 10.
Pilot
Co-Pilot
Navigator
Radio Operator
Flight Engineer
Bombardier
Left Waist Gunner
Right Waist Gunner
Ball Turret Gunner
Tail Gunner
Every plane that was shot down in WWII was a loss of 10 lives. The planes skin is thin aluminum.
... or being POWs for those who bailed out.
@Roger Clemons :: Oh yeah what fun!
This is Not Clickbait this is in the algorithm due to the recent disaster in Dallas! The story here is of another accident 3 years ago! Before commenting it would be wise to peruse time stamp then proceed to keep your eyes and ears open before you open your pie hole!
Huge props to you Jesse for bringing this up and also supporting this group. My grandpa flew B-24s in WWII and I have a huge soft spot in my heart for all of these amazing men who risked so much for us and the amazing huge bombers that they flew, B-24s, B-17s, B-25s and B-26s.... thanks so much for caring about this. This truly matters, as do these great men who are still with us .
The people of that time are fading fast, this generation will never meet these fine people and really know what they did.
I have been on all these planes, I used to go every year with my daughters papa, he would clean and work on the planes when they came to our airport, they work so hard to repair and fix these planes, I have met the people you met, and collings foundation is AMAZING
My wife and I got to fly on the Collings Foundation's B-17 several years ago. I was an incredible experience. The crew were absolutely wonderful people. It heartbreaking to think they are gone. Our thoughts and prayers are with all those involved.
I flew in that aircraft 10-years ago with my (then) 87-year-old former B-17 co-pilot...dad. Was a very special time for him and we've been supporters of the Collings folks for a long time.
So very sad for the families of the victims and for the whole Collings Foundation - they are awesome folks.
It's so sad. I live in Connecticut my kids went to the air show a few weekends ago where they were showing this amazing peice of history. The news is coming out slowly but no matter what the news has to say it's incredibly tragic for everyone from family members of those who were lost to the emergency personnel who were witness to the disaster. My prayers go out to all of them
It's really a shame that the FAA investigation revealed that there were serious shortcuts in maintenance and safety procedures. Not only will those shortcuts affect these families forever, but many people will be deprived of opportunities in the future. Simple fact: engines 3 and 4 had internal damage from malfunctioning magnetos. The pilot was also the mechanic and safety officer. The Collings Foundation was decertified from flying due to serious deficiencies in adherence to safety protocols.
I shed a few tears yesterday. We went through Nine O Nine back in July in Kalispell ... it was humbling to say the least, and to see some of those WW2 veterans in attendance - wow. Seeing that old fella get a ride in the P51 was awesome as well - I figured he was a pilot. My heart goes out to these folks and their surviving family & friends - what a tragedy. Thanks for posting this.
Excellent post. My father was a volunteer at the Foundation and helped restore and then fly the B-17 and several of their other aircraft. The care with which they treat those planes is unmatched. Terrible tragedy.
As a 30 year vet of USAF and an aviator... thank you. Well done. Well said.
Great sentiments my friend. It was truly a huge loss to lose that plane and its dedicated crew. I live in Whitefish, and when Collings was here about 10 years or so ago, I took my dad to see the planes. He was a Navy pilot in Korea and VietNam who flew multi engines. In Korea, he flew the PB4Y2, the Navy version of the B24. I was able to have an in depth chat with the crew chief and pilot, told them my dads story. We had just returned from DC, where he was awarded a Presidential Unit Citation for the squadron he initiated and flew with in VietNam called VO67. When I told them he flew PB's, they took us up at no charge, let him sit in the co-pilots seat and let him take the controls once they got off the ground. It was truly one of the most incredible sights for me, seeing my dad in his glory. He passed away last year, and before he went, he brought up that flight. Thank you for posting this.
Your Dad I'm sure was a Top Shelf individual. Wish I could've thanked him for his service. My Dad was a Navy Seabee during WW2 & my Uncle Roger (who just died) was an Army Air Corps pilot who flew B-17s & B-29s in WW2, bombers in Korea & Viet Nam, then was an airline pilot thru the 60s.
My dad flew B17's in the war. I flew on nine 0 nine last year in Dallas, what a blast... What a huge loss. RIP to all.
They gave tours and rides at my airport last year at KAOH. I'm the general manager. I was honored with a ride into AOH from the previous tour stop in Indiana. They let me bring my step dad who has ALS before he lost full use of his legs. Then another ride in Nine O Nine and yet again at AOH and another ride in Witchcraft the B24. We had the B25 and the 51 here as well. It was such an honor to be part of the team. I can't imagine the loss of the crew and passengers. Terrible loss. Thoughts and prayers to the family and pilots, crews, and passengers.
I flew in both this b-17 and the b-24 on June 24, 2017 from the museum of flight in Seattle. That was such a wonderful day! One of the best days of my life so far! My heart is so heavy right now!! To every one at the Collings Foundation: you rock!! I'm SO SORRY for your loss!!
The Collings pilots certainly have more training than what the WWII pilots did before getting shipped out to Europe and Africa.
Very, Very true ..
In this case, the pilot logged over 7000 hours in the B-17.
Thoughts and prayers goes out to the families who lost their loved ones in this sad unfortunate situation. 🇺🇸🛩️🙏
I had the privilege and honor of flying on the Nine-O-Nine at Spokane Wa. in 2014. I was still flying high for two days after the ride of a lifetime. You see my father was a Ball Turret Gunner on a B-17 WW2 did 35 combat missions. I having nothing but respect and admiration for all our WW2 Soldiers, Air Corp, Sailors and Marines. Salute!
a friend of mine flew these during WWII he is 100 years old today, he is like a walking history book.
What we now know, a year later, was that they did NOT actually go through the proper amount of safety training and maintenance. With two engines on one side essentially inoperative from the start and incorrect pilot recovery attempt, the plane was doomed.
Jesse, Thanks for the kind words, I'm a volunteer at The Collings Foundations , American Heritage Museum WW2 Tank collection. We are all shocked and saddened by the loss of so many live. Our thoughts and prayers go out to all the families involved.....
I have a sister that works close by the airport. When I heard of the accident that morning all I was imagining was that plane crashed into her building where she worked. It did not but I still think of what the pilot and co pilot must of gone through trying to get that plane down safely. They never gave up trying even in their last moments of life. They are heroes.
My thoughts to everyone that have been impacted by this tragic accident. I had the honor of touring this plane with my wife and 10 year old daughter this summer. All will be missed...
As a pilot this is heartbreaking and I send all condolences to the families of the victims of this terrible accident. At the same time well said and thank you for your tribute.
Roger Clemons everyone is allowed their opinion and I respect that. But the loss of life is always saddening.
Flew on “Nine-0-Nine” 2 years ago. My heart is absolutely broken.
I always wanted to ride on the B-24 to honor my dad, and experience a little of his life as a nose turret gunner with the 8th AF in England in WWII. My dad would have been 103 last Monday; his experience in WWII, with his crew, flying 38-39 missions over Europe, were some of the most important days of his life.
"Wait 'till all the facts come out..."
Well, they're out now, and it ain't pretty. Poorly maintained, haphazard and unprofessional maintenance protocols, and the PIC of the crash plane was head of maintenance.
Just read the report, sad! No excuss for poor maintenance when flying passengers! 30+ year aircraft mechanic here!
Too bad that there is no follow up to this video. You couldn’t pay me enough to jump in one of those, that are amazing but they should not be allowed to fly let alone fly passengers.
I guess he is on a PR mission or he can't read all the reports.
My thoughts and prayers go out to the survivors and the families of the victims, this is truly tragic...
Plane crashes are always personal to every pilot. It is a small community who support every other Pilot. I am happy that you got the chance to experience that plane and its pilots.
I feel like shedding tears everytime a b-17 crashes. My dad was a B-17 pilot (and later, piloted the B-29) during WW2, and I learned a great deal from him about the aircraft, as well as the folks who flew these incredible machines, as well as the other aircraft. At 76 years of age, I still have his copy of a flight instruction manual, as well as his silver wings and other items.
Warm feelings wont bring back the victims of stupidity. Or a lost national treasure.
I saw and climbed through that plane in Nashua just this past Saturday. I've been going every year for many years, as "Wings of Freedom" invariably comes to one airport or another in my vicinity. Collings is a great organization, bringing history alive in an era when the primary education curriculum hardly covers any history at all. They have a massive encampment of Allied and Axis reenactors and a big WWII battle dramatization every October at their facility in Stow, and they always stress during the program that the war is nothing to glorify, but to learn from, so we don't keep having to fight wars over and over again through the generations. All three of their bombers have flown over my housing co-op at one time or another. The B-17 'Nine 0 Nine' was my very favorite of the planes on the tour. Two years ago I had a flight in the B-25 'Tondelayo' and it was a superlative experience; always hoped to fly in the B-17 someday. And now that beautiful tail and part of a wing are all that is left of it, and seven people who love vintage planes as much as I do have been killed in one. My heart goes out to their families, and to Collings in what certainly is their worst nightmare. It all just seems surreal.
I rode once on the Collings B 24 and toured the B 17 many times. Sad to hear of the loss of life and the loss of that beautiful airplane.
Very nice tribute to the work of the Collings Foundation. Sad for the loss of lives and injuries resulting from the Nine O Nine crash. My father was a waist gunner on B17's in England during WWII. I took my mother to see the B17 "Aluminum Overcast" when it was at Fairfield Airport in NJ several years ago. Thanks for taking the time to post
What a great service to keep the memory of the greatest people in modern times overcoming humanity's greatest challenge in this way. Passenger and crew, they all deserve our support and sympathy. Prayers for those that serve and those that honor that service with all they have.
Update: the FAA have released their preliminary report. Its scathing to say the least. Unqualified flight engineer; over age limit Captain; multiple engine problems on two engines; carrying passengers without seating and seat belts; doctored maintenence records. So they have revoked Collings ability to carry paying passengers and it opens the door to massive lawsuits from families who lost loved ones in the crash.
Really doctored maintenance, that is awful and probably criminal
My thoughts are with the families who have lost loved ones.
Thanks for getting the words out. Totally agree that these are not just airplanes, it's our history..
This plane flew over our home last week and gave me chills. Just think how important these planes and the men who flew them were to the history of our country. The loss of life is a huge tragedy.
I work at an airport that helps support the collings foundation once a year, we have them stage their aircrafts on our main ramp and they operate through us for free. Since I worked the events I was given the chance to fly in the B-17 in 2018 and I flew in the B-25 this year. Amazing opportunity to come across and I will be forever grateful. I love this foundation and I hope this isn't the end of it.
so sad. condolences and love from the UK ❤
I flew on the B-24 back when it was called The Dragon and His Tail. Every story my grandfather told me of his B-24 adventures in WW2 came to life on that flight. Truly an amazing experience.
John Collins' foundation does AMAZING things to bring history to life.
I was working on the airstrip and saw the whole crash happen up close. You are absolutely right about the crew trying so hard to land that plane, you could tell they were very experienced and my heart goes out to all the people and families involved
Really? Wow! I read that they actually touched down on runway 6 so they had landed but immediately upon touching down something went wrong and they went into the DE icing tanks is that correct?
If you have eyewitness information please contact your air accident investigation body. Is it NTSB over there? Or would it be FAA? It's called The AAIB here in England.
My uncle survived a B-17 crash during training, here in the states. There was a problem with the air/fuel mixture system that caused some planes to go into full lean, which stalled the engines on take-off. I'm glad he survived. I would never have known him had he not. And I'm blessed to have known him. He was a great guy.
@M Detlef Your message isn't clear. Please make it so.
You should have gotten your facts straight before posting a video supporting the foundation.
A report just came out that the FAA has pulled their license to carry passengers for pay, due to lax safety protocols. The engines were poorly maintained, in addition to other problems.
My sincerest condolences to the flight crew and passengers who perished and were injured that day. I was fortunate enough to see the 9o9 here in Kearney, NE, along with the Liberator and the P-51 Mustang this summer 2019. I have pictures of the 9o9 if needed. Very sorry this happened.
My father flew on that bird. I heard 6 of 13 made it to the hospital. Tragedy! Prayers with everyone involved
The elderly pilot was the mechanic. They were jerry rigging the ignition systems in the engines. Engines weren’t being maintained. Shameful
I agree: we should never jump to conclusions. But now it's a year later. The #3 and #4 engines were poorly maintained, the ignition systems were set up incorrectly, one ignition coil was faulty, several pistons showed damage from unaddressed detonation and one cylinder was badly corroded. Everything points to sloppy maintenance. Furthermore, the pilot never ran up the engines prior to takeoff. He never declared an emergency, even when both both engine on the right wing were out, a dangerous situation indeed. And one more thing: the pilot skipped his chance to land on the cross runway and instead flew much, much further in an attempt to reach the main. He didn't make it as he simply ran out of altitude. Seven people died as a result. An entirely preventable accident.
I'm glad someone posted this. It also needs to be noted that the pilot of this aircraft was basically single-handedly doing all the maintenance himself (unsupervised) along with flying it. In response to this and the above, the Collings foundation's 'Living History' Type Flight certifications were revoked grounding all their operations (though this may have since been reinstated). I completely agree it is important not to jump to conclusions and that flying and maintaining aircraft is expensive but this crash was completely and wholly preventable
@@topiasr628 Yes the pilot was doing the mataince as he was the head of the maintenance program for the foundation. They should have had a whole team in charge of manintance. The FAA needs to revise the certifatction of these airplanes and take a more active roll in there abilty to fley.
Thanks for getting this story out there, so tragic. Those planes and the crews who have flown them are very special.
Thank you for making this video. I see the Wings of Freedom tour when they come to Moffett every Memorial Day.
Flying vintage aircraft is a risk I’m willing to take. The joy and exhilaration of flying a plane of this caliber cannot be compared with any other type of flying.
Look at the stats and the odds are something I'd take to Vegas any day.
Thanks for sharing and sorry for "your" loss and the loss of the crew and passengers too. Working with the ships crew and actually seeing aircraft in person makes it especially emotional. Being a person who works in the aerospace industry I get affected by this sort of thing because I know the work and commitment that it takes to build and maintain and fly these works of art. RIP Nine O Nine and here family.
This makes me especially sad I flew on that exact plane 2 years ago and I met the same people. It’s so sad and I’m so sorry for the crew, the families, and everyone involved
I flew on Nine O Nine last year and shot the whole flight on my go pro. My heart is broken. My prayers for all those involved in the crash and to the Collings Foundation. I need to post my flight up on my channel in the next day or so.
Upload your video on TH-cam please if you dont mind as a tribute :-(
I had a chance to fly in the P-51, what a rush. What a professional group of people.
On D-day, June 6, 1944, my Dad landed on Omaha Beach. I have a photo of my dad receiving the Silver Star for saving two wounded guys carrying them to safety during the battle of the bulge. My hero
My uncle was at Omaha beach as well
My support and prayers go out to the family. My grandad was an WW1 ambulance driver. : ) peace
Very Sad Day Indeed for the Families and the loss of a Historic Airplane!
They come here to the WIldwood Naval AIr Station every year; thank you for putting this video out.
Piece of history lost forever. So sad. RIP those involved. Please keep flying Collings Foundation.
I believe they will, but the foundation needs our support. As do all of the other great organizations that preserve, maintain and fly these amazing aircraft. Rough times may be coming.
Educate your friends. Educate your family. Most of all, educate a stranger.
It will be restored
Sorry to hear about this .May the family's have our Parers .
Agreed! Such a huge loss for the aviation community. The Collings Foundation is an amazing group of people. It’s a very heartbreaking day.
13 people on board, 7 dead. Such a shame all round. RIP.
And there is so few of these planes left too. But I'm glad they keep them flying. Planes are built to fly.
As of right now, there are only nine flyable B-17's here in the States, with one over in Britain; "Sally-B".
@@johnosbourn4312 3 or 4 flyable B-17s that are actually flying now as of 2022. 3 birds retired and were grounded due to financial issues related to COVID and Texas Raiders sadly was destroyed in Dallas.
I still find myself in denial. Im absolutely heartbroken as is the rest of the aviation community.
David, Jeroen, and others..This video was a comment on the crash in 2019 at Bradley Airport (BDL) in 2019. The Dallas collision was for me, as a pilot, more problematic since exhibition pilots in a very controlled airspace should never get anywhere near each other unless in a formation flight.
I go to the shows every year. My dad flew in B-29s.
Well stated video. I've appreciated the Collings Foundation over the years and will greatly miss "nine-o-nine".
My friend in Oakland, CA built/engineered the bomb-simulation mechanical and electrical system that enabled visitors aboard the plane to see and feel what it was like to sight a target and deploy a bomb, using realtime mapping imagery in the scopes. He was and is extremeley passionate about the whole mission to share with people the gandeur and awesomeness of these WW2 planes.
My great uncle flew a B-24 in WWII. I had 10 great uncles (that I know of) who served in various branches of the military in WWII. Thanks for this video and for the link to Collings Foundation. This is soooo tragic.
Collings is a great organization. I took a flight lesson in their P-51 in Statesville, NC. Will never forget the experience.
I was on this plane 1.5 weeks before it crashed. I was deeply saddened for those affected and the plane.
. My grandfather was a B-17 Pilot I flew on the "Nine O Nine" with my Grandfather and his Navigator in the early 2000's the men said it was the first time to have 2 original crew members aboard and I was so lucky to have had the chance of a lifetime. Our hearts aces for everyone at collins and family. Thoughts and prayers are with all family and everyone the B'17 touched. The best experience of my life hands down.
The b-17 that crashed is not the original 909..it was just painted the same way.this one that crashed was built just before they stopped using them for war.
@@carloscortes5570 I really do not know other than I flew in a B-17 Called the Nine O Nine owned at the time by Collins foundation. Sorry for the confusion
Thanks for identifying the plane involved. I took a tour of that plane two years ago and was fascinated by it. When I heard about the crash, I had a bad feeling that it was the one I visited. But no article gave the name or tail number. Now I know. It's a great tragedy for everyone.
My entire support and recognition. I also wish all the best to the crew.
And now we've lost another B-17 in Dallas. Truly heartbreaking.
I flew on both the Collins B-17 and B-24. they are a class act and I feel the loss Denton TX
I clicked this video FIRED UP thinking you were going to come up with some conspiracy theory or something - now I'm sharing it to my social media pages as it mirrors exactly what I posted earlier.
The warbird family is incredibly close, and this loss will be remembered for an eternity - along with the others we've lost over the years. No one does this because it's safe, they do it because seeing these machines operating after 75 years is something that you can't even begin to describe, and as you mentioned - the excitement and enthusiasm of veterans, children, etc at the air shows just makes all the blood sweat and tears worth it. Today it's tears... our winter maintenance will likely involve some blood (lol) and the summer airshow season = sweat. ;)
Thanks for supporting the foundation! I work with CAF aircraft, but Collings is a class act their warbirds are literally flying museum pieces.
Thank you . I saw both Planes at our airport about 10 years ago . I am saddened by the loss of life and the plane . Both the B24 and the B17 were parked close to each other . I was able to stick my head up into the wheel well and Compare the Thickness of the wing on Both Planes . The Crew of the planes were very nice and answered questions . There were a few vets around who started telling unknown stories while in presence of the planes . The Collings foundation brought joy to many people by bringing the planes around on tour .