Enfp here 😂 he’s so right! I’m always irritating my enfj boss. She gets so annoyed when speak to the customers lol sometimes my speech can be scatter. But as for time I’m always early.
For me, as an enfp-f the trust piece speaks to can I entrust my whole self to you and be accepted without any malice or il-intent to manipulate or take advantage of my good nature. Low Fe often leaves one wide open to abusers and mean girl type bullies. Their actions can often go over our heads as a younger enfp bc we're just in our moment of authenticity at fullness of expression. Maturity and wisdom places a limitation on that expression until true character has been vetted. I've had the most difficulty with ESFJ. I notice they look at me as some type of gullable person, so I see their darting eyes making contact with others, or the way they've tried to ask me undermining questions, silent laughing but always trying to change the entire attitude of the group to be against anyone that goes against their understanding. I know this only applies to toxic ESFJ, but I've only met maybe one that was not toxic. I found it difficult to be myself around them without being highly judged and / or attempting to manipulate my emotions.
how do Enfps feel when other people insult you as a joke to amuse themself? me as Enfj I will stand up and defending my Enfp friend if that happene because i think that would hurt my enfp once i read a topic on quora about Fi, and an older Infp recommend the younger Fi users to develope their Te to be less annoying and be more understanding about social harmony. what do you think?
INTJ here, not going to comment on the first part since it doesnt pertain to me. The second part I do have a strong opinion on since my 4th function (Se) developing has been the reason I got back into analytical phychology in general and MBTI in particular and it's been a very prominent topic of discussion with anyone that's into MBTI or something similar. Basically the prevalent opinion of myself and the people I talk to is you cant develop your 4th function. It just starts to happen once you reach a certain point in your life and your 1st function stops being the only thing you're worried about. Also, it sounds like that INFP is talking about Fe, not Te. Te is the complete opposite of that - it's about being in control of situations and people, being a leader, and discarding social harmony in favor of getting things done.
I think the general rule of thumb for Fi-users is that we're okay with people using us as the butt of the joke as long as it's not malicious and doesn't happen all the time. We're self aware enough to know that it isn't true when we're mature but it'll hurt if it's something we're self concious about. Te helps thicken our skin but Fi will let us know whether this person is someone who we can continue trusting regardless of social dynamics, I hope that makes sense.
Thanks Jon for replying, this made me reread my answer and figure out what I missed: I guess that INFP thinks that inferior Te manifests like Fe. It doesnt. Inferior Te means you know that you need to use Te, but you end up using Fi. So if you know that you need to take charge or act on things you get doubtful or unsure of yourself, when you get your Fi boundaries crossed you're going to go cry and harbor resentment instead of standing up for yourself publicly. You wont go about doing it the Fe way because you're concious of your Te, not Fe. Granted, young most Fi doms are going to be better at Fe than Te, but if you make a concious effort of using Te you would end up using Fi most of the time.
Interesting that for me as an Enfp Intp's have been the ones bugging me when they aren't being cute 😔I think Enneagram also largely contributes to how well you get along with people though and since I'm an so 9w8 that gives me a more fe-ish edge as an Enfp that likes and cares a lot about group harmony too 🫶
@@Pinkywinkykinky Trying to justify your type by some other theory that doesnt work is another big sign that you're mistyped too. I'm not saying that you're mistyped, these things are just strong indicators that you might be.
@@Pinkywinkykinky I personally think enneagram is just total bullshit. It doesnt work in real life. It ignores sensor types that are the majority of the population. There's a lot of stuff about MBTI that doesnt check out too, I'm just going to stick to the stuff that does, and that's functions.
I love it when ENFPs are being too much.
I lovee ittttt!🤩
~INTJ here
Being too much = INTJ magnet (most of the time)
Thanks for inviting me to your channel dude, it was fun doing our collab!
Until next time!
@@justcallmejon22 we'll have better audio next time!
Enfp here 😂 he’s so right! I’m always irritating my enfj boss. She gets so annoyed when speak to the customers lol sometimes my speech can be scatter. But as for time I’m always early.
For me, as an enfp-f the trust piece speaks to can I entrust my whole self to you and be accepted without any malice or il-intent to manipulate or take advantage of my good nature. Low Fe often leaves one wide open to abusers and mean girl type bullies. Their actions can often go over our heads as a younger enfp bc we're just in our moment of authenticity at fullness of expression. Maturity and wisdom places a limitation on that expression until true character has been vetted. I've had the most difficulty with ESFJ. I notice they look at me as some type of gullable person, so I see their darting eyes making contact with others, or the way they've tried to ask me undermining questions, silent laughing but always trying to change the entire attitude of the group to be against anyone that goes against their understanding. I know this only applies to toxic ESFJ, but I've only met maybe one that was not toxic. I found it difficult to be myself around them without being highly judged and / or attempting to manipulate my emotions.
I hope you find healthy ESFJs because they truly are some of the best friends you can have in your circle when they choose to accept you 🙂
my INTJ big brother from another country
how do Enfps feel when other people insult you as a joke to amuse themself? me as Enfj I will stand up and defending my Enfp friend if that happene because i think that would hurt my enfp
once i read a topic on quora about Fi, and an older Infp recommend the younger Fi users to develope their Te to be less annoying and be more understanding about social harmony. what do you think?
INTJ here, not going to comment on the first part since it doesnt pertain to me.
The second part I do have a strong opinion on since my 4th function (Se) developing has been the reason I got back into analytical phychology in general and MBTI in particular and it's been a very prominent topic of discussion with anyone that's into MBTI or something similar.
Basically the prevalent opinion of myself and the people I talk to is you cant develop your 4th function. It just starts to happen once you reach a certain point in your life and your 1st function stops being the only thing you're worried about. Also, it sounds like that INFP is talking about Fe, not Te. Te is the complete opposite of that - it's about being in control of situations and people, being a leader, and discarding social harmony in favor of getting things done.
I think the general rule of thumb for Fi-users is that we're okay with people using us as the butt of the joke as long as it's not malicious and doesn't happen all the time. We're self aware enough to know that it isn't true when we're mature but it'll hurt if it's something we're self concious about. Te helps thicken our skin but Fi will let us know whether this person is someone who we can continue trusting regardless of social dynamics, I hope that makes sense.
Thanks Jon for replying, this made me reread my answer and figure out what I missed: I guess that INFP thinks that inferior Te manifests like Fe. It doesnt. Inferior Te means you know that you need to use Te, but you end up using Fi. So if you know that you need to take charge or act on things you get doubtful or unsure of yourself, when you get your Fi boundaries crossed you're going to go cry and harbor resentment instead of standing up for yourself publicly. You wont go about doing it the Fe way because you're concious of your Te, not Fe. Granted, young most Fi doms are going to be better at Fe than Te, but if you make a concious effort of using Te you would end up using Fi most of the time.
wait a minute us INTJs are popular online??😭😭
I wouldn't say popular but we have a huge representation 😃
Fan girling here ❤
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Interesting that for me as an Enfp Intp's have been the ones bugging me when they aren't being cute 😔I think Enneagram also largely contributes to how well you get along with people though and since I'm an so 9w8 that gives me a more fe-ish edge as an Enfp that likes and cares a lot about group harmony too 🫶
Sounds like a big red flag that you might be mistyped.
@@_Thunderball_ Enfp 9's not actually very rare, just because we're usually 7's doesn't necessarily mean I'm mistyped
@@Pinkywinkykinky Trying to justify your type by some other theory that doesnt work is another big sign that you're mistyped too. I'm not saying that you're mistyped, these things are just strong indicators that you might be.
@@_Thunderball_ That's fair but I honestly think both mbti and enneagram should be looked at hand in hand with influencing each other 🙏
@@Pinkywinkykinky I personally think enneagram is just total bullshit. It doesnt work in real life. It ignores sensor types that are the majority of the population. There's a lot of stuff about MBTI that doesnt check out too, I'm just going to stick to the stuff that does, and that's functions.