13:41 no, they dont see endless stream of closing delimiters - thats lisp; here they saw an endless stream of hierarchial initialisers. _just like flutter/dart_
Jordan did not think that Typescript will make it into React. Even Google had to give up on AtScript in Favor of Typescript. Typescript is such an indepth designed Language which will help to move forward the whole Javascript Community!
Well, TS is certainly a step forward from Javascript but ReScript (what became of Reason for JS / React development) is a better language, especially when it comes to React's core principles. ReScript has sound type system, great type inference, immutability, compiles super fast. Typescript is really popular and I'm glad that types are finally settling in in JS development but.. man I really wish it was ReScript.
TS doesn't solve the problem. It's still a language that misses out on half a century of progress in language design. It's not a relevant language outside of the JS bubble.
Great talk by a great developer. But why not go all the way and use something like Purescript? Purescript with the human resources of Facebook behind it would be amazing
It would be great .. but I think it has to do with what he said about syntax/familiarity/static friction to get something adopted.. Changes happen so slowly because most of the people gravitate toward doing things like they are used to doing because it feels easy and productive..
Do users really care about the time it takes to startup and how their hardware is utilized ? I really still don't see it why I should learn something entirely different and also expect to find people that would be proficient in it
Why learn something different? Because it can help you find better ways to do things. Also, ReScript is just a better language than JS (or TS) if you're concerned about the quality of the end product. Also, ask Richard Feldman about recruiting people to write Elm code.. they haven't had trouble finding people. How come? Because many good programmers are already interested in the concepts that these languages bring to the table and they'd rather use them than the stagnant status quo.
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Damn, honestly this is the guy to listen too. I am surprised he doesn't get as much praise for creating react. He is pretty lowkey about it I guess.
Jordan Walke’s predictions work...ALWAYS. Every single time.
This, this is how you market ReasonML
Inspiring. I like Reason's syntax. Only small changes to OCaml syntax, but I like it better. I hope Reason catches on.
he tried so hard to avoid mentioning TypeScript XD
what a weird world 2019 was. People still thought that anything besides javascript mattered. Reason has since been rebranded to Rescript.
I’m a iOS developer getting into web technologies. This looks exciting!
awesome talk!
Excellent talk! keep working on it, good luck
13:41 no, they dont see endless stream of closing delimiters - thats lisp; here they saw an endless stream of hierarchial initialisers. _just like flutter/dart_
Amazing
Jordan did not think that Typescript will make it into React. Even Google had to give up on AtScript in Favor of Typescript. Typescript is such an indepth designed Language which will help to move forward the whole Javascript Community!
Well, TS is certainly a step forward from Javascript but ReScript (what became of Reason for JS / React development) is a better language, especially when it comes to React's core principles. ReScript has sound type system, great type inference, immutability, compiles super fast. Typescript is really popular and I'm glad that types are finally settling in in JS development but.. man I really wish it was ReScript.
What no Q&A?
Nice talk! I'm wondering why John McCarthy is missing from the history slide though? (For Lisp)
My best (or worst) part: the 30 secs after 10:38 ... very true, very sad. (minor fix: lisp is 1958)
Shat on by IE and shovelled up by jquery. RIP.
Pit of success you say? Hold my hooks, said React core team :D
How can you give a talk about a language that targets JS/React without even mentioning the elephant in the room, Typescript?
Nice one.
On my experience, Reason > TS. But yes, TS is more popular. Pick your poison.
@@SuperHeroINTJ check the dates of creation both of that stuff
Typescript is not systematically designed, but very haphazard. It shows all over the place. And it's also far from a proper functional language.
TS doesn't solve the problem. It's still a language that misses out on half a century of progress in language design. It's not a relevant language outside of the JS bubble.
Minute 14-- I wish it had further simplified.
Great talk by a great developer. But why not go all the way and use something like Purescript? Purescript with the human resources of Facebook behind it would be amazing
It would be great .. but I think it has to do with what he said about syntax/familiarity/static friction to get something adopted.. Changes happen so slowly because most of the people gravitate toward doing things like they are used to doing because it feels easy and productive..
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Why are you in the comment section dude? Just listen to him. He is talking some serious shit. 🙏🙏🙏
nice job. i'm curious why Jordan Walke wasn't involved in this?
great
sounds reasonable..
"Did I clicked"
Do users really care about the time it takes to startup and how their hardware is utilized ?
I really still don't see it why I should learn something entirely different and also expect to find people that would be proficient in it
Why learn something different? Because it can help you find better ways to do things. Also, ReScript is just a better language than JS (or TS) if you're concerned about the quality of the end product. Also, ask Richard Feldman about recruiting people to write Elm code.. they haven't had trouble finding people. How come? Because many good programmers are already interested in the concepts that these languages bring to the table and they'd rather use them than the stagnant status quo.
NO FUTURE
great