They should make all potential trainees watch this video! For every successful idol, we forget about the 1,000 who didn't make it. Glad to see you came out of the darkness to a good place.
The Average company has around 15-30 trainees and the big three has around 30-50 so there’s quite a lot more than 1,000. Each year they do auditions and some people leave and more join again.
48:32 this sentence really spoke to me: "because it's your dream, the smallest scratch can leave the biggest scar" These days I've been struggling with the way how my university lessons were affected by the pandemic, nothing is rolling out the way I planned, but sometimes I realize that the problem actually isn't as big as I feel like it is. But I always had this dream of how my future and career would go, and seeing it go through some unfortunate paths increases the emotional impact of the whole situation Nothing related to the entertainment industry, but your story made me reflect a little bit ^-^ thanks for sharing!
I'm in my last year of uni and it's the year where I have to show my skills in order to obtain a position in the lab. However due to the pandemic, I became less motivated and more lethargic. Everything seems to be bleak, like nothing really matters anymore. But slowly i try to focus on what the end goal is and how in the end everything will turn out fine. Sorry I just feel related to what you wrote.
@@senic5401 im a senior in university too I'm supposed to be working in my graduation project but i cant find any motivations to do so everyday i wake up hoping to find motovation but it seems that i just cant find it anymore even tho i love my major Sorry if i annoy you but i just needed to let it out its a little bit releaving to know that im not the only one struggling English is not my first language i hope i didnt miss up I hope things better in the near future fighting 💪
so.. she's supposed to debut with wonder girls.. and be the center.. but she rejected the offer.. i salute her for sticking to what she wants.. but.. damnnnnnn.. gina could have been a very successful solo artists along with sunmi and the others by now if she said yes.. but then again.. life is such a tricky clown..
저도 나름 나의 인생에 최선을 다했고 승승장구하며 교만했던 20대초반을 거처 그렇게 목숨받쳐 열공했거늘 임용에 수차례 낙방하며 인생 열심히 한다고 잘되는거 아니네 운명은 정해져 있나봐 낙심하다가 결국 수학전공으로 할게없어 학원가에 입성했어요...초반엔 임용끈 못놓고 지금은 학원에서 일하지만 난 학교에 갈꺼야라는 꿈을갖고 계속 시험봤지만 계속낙방...완벽주의 성향있어서 가르치는 아이 하나하나 부족한거 프린트해주고 보충해주고하니 애들실력은 쑥쑥..입소문나서 대치동 입성후 꽤 유명해졌어요.,,근데 그때까지도 난 여기 잠깐있는거야 난 여기떠날꺼야 이맘이 지속되더라구요ㅡㅠ 학교선생아니면 인정안하는 부모영향도 컸구요.,, 그러다 남편만나 지방으로 오면서 애증의 관계였던 수학과는 안녕하고 다른일하고 있어요...주변에서 아깝다지만 전 두번다시 수학은 보기도 싫더라구요 지나님은 아직도 음악을 사랑하시는것 같아 그점이 저랑 다른것같아요 결혼후 아이를 낳았는데 아이가 수학영재...그 싫었던 수학을 내아이를 가르치는데 쓰게될줄 누가알았겠어요ㅠ 인생이란 이렇듯 한치앞을 알수없는것 같아요 그 힘든시간을 통해 교만했던 내가 다듬어지고 낮아졌지만 다시 그 시간을 겪고싶진않네요ㅠ
I am here from rilaccoco, both channels which I stumbled upon today. I have never listened to someone speak for so long, but your story and the way you speak made me want to listen more. After listening to the whole thing I can confidently say, I admire you! You're special. God made you different. Holding on to what you believe in and working towards it no matter how many obstacles are put in your way, (and stopping only when you don't want to anymore) is something not many people can do. I highly admire such people. You're the rarest of the rarest. I'm sure you have much better stuff planned out for you that you aren't aware of yet. I am terrible in putting my thoughts into words, but listening to this made me feel so many emotions I haven't felt in a long time that I was compelled to comment. I have subscribed and will be supporting you now onwards all the way here from India. Please stay safe, healthy, and happy. Loads of love.
I was talking about this with a friend of mine (just also happens to be an ex-trainee) not so long ago. We’re both relatively young (early 20s) but I feel like the part about when your dream is at stake, small scratches leave big scars is really relevant. For example, we both experienced the death of the dream at similar times. Mine was getting into a certain dance group (I used to believe that if I just practiced more and got good enough I would be a definite shoe in, but what hurt me more than the rejection of my dance skill was the evaluation of me as a human being and I have since realised that no amount of change both personal and skill wise will convince them to accept me). My friend was literally weeks away from debut and then abruptly let go. (It wasn’t because of skill or lack of perseverance or lack of visuals the situation just sucked). This is something they are still struggling with. In retrospect, I understand. Part of me feels like maybe these things were not meant to be for us and it’s all for the better, but another part wants to get angry and ask why things can’t be fair. But “fair” is not something for us to decide is it? These were the cards we were dealt and even though they weren’t the ones we wanted we both left as better dancers/performers and hopefully better/more mature people. These are just some thoughts that have been stewing in my mind that I find difficult to talk about because it’s hard to find people to understand the nuances (in my life anyway). I really appreciate and admire your outlook on life - maybe it’s better not to have dream. It’s such an emotionally taxing thing to pour your life’s energy into wanting something so badly that if your not careful it can take you somewhere where you no longer recognise yourself. I relate to your struggle to keep your values and your sense of self within sight- it’s something I’ve had to fight to keep because if you let go it’s a slippery slope to a very dark place. I also wholeheartedly agree with the ‘living with no regrets’ mindset. I’m glad that you drew a line in the sand and set your boundaries and put your best interests first. This is all just a long message to say: I’m glad you’re happy now Gina. I wish you nothing but the best and I hope you continue to live without regrets. Ok I’ll stop talking now bye.
Gina, you clearly have talent (recognized by JYP and all of your colleagues, worked very hard and proved yourself in multiple agencies). In addition to that you are a person of intelligence, depth and eloquence. I have an INTJ friend whom you remind me of. Similar to you, she is also outwardly pretty, bad ass smart and with much inner substance. You had a difficult journey, but the realizations you arrived at are soooo precious. They make you wise beyond your years.
Thank you for sharing; it was truly inspiring and heartfelt. Though things weren't meant to be as a kpop artist, perhaps you were made for something much bigger; beauty and brains can go so much further. As a pop follower since the first-gen, the industry could really use your expertise in assisting the younger gen in mentally preparing for the brutal industry. Your journey may be a mess, but you can turn it into a message. I applaud you for having a strong mentality to face all those difficult business situations; nonetheless, you shouldn't have to face. All the best luck to you and all future endeavors!
그래..맹지나.. 어케 지내는지 궁금했었는데 이런 사연들이 있었구나.. 진짜 인생은 실력도 중요하지만 순간 선택, 타이밍과 운도 너무 중요한거 같음. 마지막 말하는 거 듣다 보니까 오랜시간 데뷔 무산이라는 일을 겪고 세상을 보는 시각이 굉장히 냉소적으로 변했다는게 느껴지네..
Just by you talking, I can tell you have a beautiful soul! I admire you for not doing what you think isn't right for you! I cannot imagine myself turning down to be the center of a group like Wonder Girls!
Wow! You should turn your story into a K-Drama. You have hella strength to make it through all that. The stories just bring me to tears over and over. Props.
참 들어보면 jyp 는 사람을 소중히 생각하는듯요 오랜 연습생들 전부는 아니겠지만 꼭 데뷔를 시켜준다는 민도 그렇고 트와이스 지효도 스트레이키즈 리더도 8년만에 데뷔한거 보면 구지 꺼내지 않으셔도 되는 이야기를 하시다니 정말 큰 용기가 있어야 하지 않았나 생각이 듭니다 과거에 메여 있지 않으실거라 봅니다 앞으로 스타같은 생활이 꼭 행복한것은 아닙니다 지금의 모습이 더 소중하고 또 10년후에 보시면 지금이 정말 아름다운 나의 날들이었구나 라고 느끼실겁니다 항상 응원할게요 가까운곳에 있으시다면 조용히 밥값 결제해드리고 싶네요 앞으로 행복만이 가득하길 진심으로 바랍니다 ^^*
우연히 추천영상에 떠서 보게 되었어요 같은 나이라 그런가 더 만감이 교차하는 느낌이네요 오랜만에 얼굴도 보고 이야기도 듣고 반가웠어요 너무 멋있고 단단한 사람이네요 저는 그 때 영재육성 본방사수하던 때에서 하나도 성장하지 못하고 시간만 버려온 느낌이라 너무 부끄럽고요 ㅠㅠ 그래도 응원합니다 새로운 꿈 꼭 찾으시고 이루실 수 있길 바라요 그치만 말씀하셨듯 또 꿈이 생기면 힘든 점도 많으니까... 그냥 무엇이 되었든간에 앞으로 남은 시간 지나씨의 마음이 행복하기만을 바랍니다 힘들고 슬프고 고통스러운 일들은 아주아주 최소한으로 아주 적기를 바라요 너무 멋진 분의 삶의 한부분을 나눠주셔서 고맙습니다 저도 본받아서 좀 더 열심히 살도록 노력해볼게요
Maybe you should write a musical based on your story or even a Kdrama. It has all the elements of a drama, just add some love story in it. But this is a perfect script. Maybe write the OST and sing it. That will be a revenge on destiny and an opportunity for you ti show the world and shine.
최선의 끝까지 해보셔서 미련이 없으신것 같습니다..이렇게 담담하기까지 얼마나 마음고생이 심하셨을지...지나씨 뿐 아니라 부모님도 많이 아프셨을것 같아요.. 과거의 쓴 경험이 앞으로의 자양분이 되실꺼예요. 가끔은 뜻을 꺾을때도 있어야 소위 잘 나가게 되는것은 어느분야든 마찬가지인것 같습니다.. 뜻을 꺾었다고 진짜 꺾은 것이 아니라 과정의 일부인것 같아요.. 아직 설레는 꿈이 있다는 것이 가장 부럽습니다. 무슨일이 일어나든 일희일비하지 않는 것이 경험에서 오는 짬인것 같아요..지금은 대박인것 같아도 나중에 보면 독인 경우도 많죠.. 유튜브가 있어서 즐겁게 커버 영상도 올릴 수가 있어서 감사한 시대인것 같습니다. 잘풀린다 생각했던 30대에 생각조차 해본적 없던 암투병을 하며 남은 것은.. 당연했던 일들의 감사였어요. 그리고 힘들때 옆에 있던 소중한 나의 사람들^^ 이렇게 긴 영상을 끝까지 보게 될 줄 몰랐는데 40대 후반의 공감댓글입니다^^ 힘든 고난은 축복을 위한 과정이라죠~ 소중한 영상 감사합니다
미련남지 않냐는 질문 그리고 그에 대한 대답. 정말 맞는 말 같아요. 분야가 달라도. 본인의 꿈을 위해서 전부를 걸어봤던분들은 비슷하게 생각할거 같아요. 다른사람이 봤을때가 아닌 내가 나를 봤을때 정말로 있는 모든것을 걸고 최선을 다했다면 그 결과가 어떠하던 미련남지 않게 되는거 같아요. 그리고 그 결과가 어떠하던 그 과정도 분명 살아가는데 있어서 도움이 될거라고 확신하구요.
"Never genuinely scared, intimidated, nor surprised by anything anymore." It sounds like through your arduous journey, you've gained true freedom and wisdom, which I think are the greatest gifts of all. I really love and appreciate your personality. You seem very grounded, self-aware and centered. Thank you so much for sharing your story.
Thanks Gina for sharing your incredible story. Even though I never dreamt of being a singer, I found your story is very healing for my situation right now. I just got rejected from a big career opportunity and I was feeling sad for myself. Listening to your story, I learned a lot about perseverance and acceptance. ✨ Your story is so inspiring, I hope that more people can hear it in the future.
Hey, I'm here from a recent video you made with Coco. Unknowingly I've watched you tell your story for an hour, it really flew by. And WOW, what an amazingly strong woman you are! The situations you've been in are wild even if you're trying to write fiction. How these events take place out of your control, which block your debut all these years and at all these promising companies. It can make one cynical. It's heartwarming to you have made good friends who were at your side when you needed them. Just having someone care enough to be there with you physically is precious. As you've concluded yourself, it prevented you from being pessimistic or cynical, you're now a realistic person, a wiser person I'd say, and stonger. I admire how you are able to shrug off adversity now. You're amazing!
Ms. Gina, I watched the whole 56 minutes and 44 seconds of your video! Thank you for sharing your story. You worked so hard to become a singer, but fate still decided a different life path for you. But thankfully, through your trials you had so many people supporting you and always beside you. I'm glad that you are content with your life right now, and I hope that you continue to find new dreams to follow. Be happy and healthy! ^_^
Tbh, I salute you Gina. There’s so many ways to grab people attention in the way you want to nowadays, without all the toxicity idols have to go through. Debuting doesn’t equal success; the way you have learnt to be so open and down to earth along the way, creating a supportive network that backs you when you need it is your success. You seem to know your boundaries clearly and I think this is a great trait to keep as you embark on future journeys. Congratulations on deciding to close this chapter of your life to begin the next. I can say from experience that it’s one of the hardest things to do in life, but better things always await you around the corner!
Your story is incredible you have so much resilience and I respect you so much for going through all of this! I hope you achieve everything you could ever dream of
oh wow this felt painful to me and i didn’t even experience it firsthand so i can’t even imagine how it’s like to think back on those 15 years..... gina, you’re so strong!!
i’m here from rilacoco! i hope to become a trainee but i’m half korean and half ethiopian and i heard they don’t really accept black people but i’ll keep trying and hopefully a small company will accept me! thank you for sharing your story
Thank you so much for sharing. Your journey is beautiful and can help others who might be feeling discouraged along their path. Very wise reflections. Wishing you the best.
Fate/ destiny indeed plays a big role in our lives. It is so inspiring after all these setbacks you didn’t give up on your dream and left no stone unturned to make it come true. Even though you aren’t an Idol today, to me you are shining brighter than any Idol out there because this journey prepared you for LIFE. It brought you wisdom, sensibility and a level of emotional maturity which so many people desire to achieve before they die.
I applaud you for telling us about your experiences with such grace. I saw you on Rilacoco’s channel & I could tell you are an extremely observant person. You revealed so much about internal girl groups struggles that no one has ever discussed. (...like why the opening lines are most coveted over singing the chorus.) This isn’t my story but I feel so salty that you didn’t get the big debut! So unfair of Fate to continuously dangle this carrot in front of you just yank it away at its own convenience. I would’ve loved supporting you especially during the golden age of Kpop with Wonder Girls, SNSD, 2AM, BIGBANG, etc. 😭 I mean, you’re just as talented as the next idol. When one of the CEOs suggested you needed therapy after you performed for him. I FELT THAT. The pain and disappointment you must’ve felt while watching your peers making it happen for themselves must’ve been unbearable. It doesn’t make any sense why you also couldn’t make it big. You had all the connections. You knew all the most talented people. You had the vocals. You definitely had the looks!!! It just makes me so salty for you!!! This just goes to show that can work our asses off for our dreams and life still doesn’t owe us any success. Gina, I wish you well wherever you go. I wish so much success and happiness whatever you choose to do from this point on! You really deserve it! 😭
예전에 싸이월드에서 파리에 가셨다가 한국에 돌아오는게 너무 싫어서 샤를드골 공항에서 울었다는 글이 기억에 남는데 이 영상을 보니 왜 그랬었는지 알것같네요...ㅜㅜ 하... 우울함이 바닥을 쳤다했는데 땅굴을 파고 더 들어간다는 표현도 기억나네요. 그땐 왜 그렇게 힘들고 우울한지 제3자는 전혀 알 수 없으니까요..ㅜㅜ 언니 너무 고생하셨어요...!!
when you talked about your freshman year of college, all i could think about was how insanely strong you were. you went through so much and honestly i feel so proud of you for being able to do so much and i also thank you for your bravery in sharing your story
Wow I just finished Wow, I just finished your video and the only thing that I can think about is that I admire you and I am jeallous. I admire you because I can sense the wise and mature person you are, and how even after all the things you mention to lived (and the ones you didn't) you managed to exprese it in a clear and deep way so the viewer could feel it too, I wish I can be the same way in the future. And second, I got jeallous because you have or had a dream that you pursued with all of your heart until the point that event if you couldn't reach it you do not fell regrets, I am a person that has lived for 30 years without a dream and that is frustating, because at a certain point I feel like a zombie that only lives because it can, I am grateful to be alive don't get me wrong, but I think taht this is like a saying in spanish "es mejor haber amado y perdido que nunca haber amado" that will translate as "it is better to have loved and lost than never to have loved" and it clearly applies also for dreams or atleast I see it that way. I will keep in my heart all the things that I learned from you in this video and try to live in a better way. I wish you all the best and I wish that the live, destiny, universe or however you want to name it, let us to keep growing and be happy.
damn.. gina unnie.. your story will definitely be a hit. if it was turned into a kdrama series.. or even a movie.. i just wish you are happy now.. with where you are and what you are.. i really wish you all the best... and i hope you all the happiness in the world..
I've been a kpop fan for now as long as you were a trainee. As a foreigner with a little less than basic understanding of Korean and ... who are we kidding ... very few ACTUAL understanding how Korean culture really works, I've always suspected these things go on, but of course it's something else when you hear it from someone who experienced them and is credible. I feel that the importance of what you are saying, about your experience in that field, can not be emphasized enough. Because it stretches not only from the not very isolated kpop industry but into other industries as well, like for example, as you described, the musical industry. Many people are put on the backburner and probably will never make it and don't leave this situation so unscathed. From what I understand, JYP seemed to treat everyone quite decently, but for JYP there's a ton of agencies who don't look after their artists very well - and the pressure this puts on people, humans, mere CHILDREN, is unimaginable. If more people would tell about what the industry is like, make children (and their parents) would think twice of entering and fans had more reasonable and realistic ideas about what it is they are actually consuming and maybe make demands that could ultimately help the well-being of their artists. One can only hope. Thank you very much for talking about this.
Wow. just wow what a journey. So many people only look at the result, the outcome to determine success but this whole story in itself just shows your determination in life since such a young age, all the battlescars and everything you should be so so proud of. 진짜 너무 멋지고 박수칩니다!!! 다음에 꼭 그 과정을 걷고, 넘어졌을때의 극복법 나눠주시면 비슷한 경험하신 분들도 너무 힘이 될거같아요. 앞으로 응뤈하겠습니다!!
I believe you are where you are, for a reason. No one could have tried harder, or longer. But in another life, wouldn't it be fun to imagine you and Jo Kwon performing in a musical together? You are such great pals, and your duet on ICSYV was amazing. Also, can we just take a moment to appreciate your achievements? Offers from the most prestigious universities in South Korea, a partial scholarship (while single-handedly fighting a lawsuit!), and author of 20+ books? People talk about triple threats - those who can sing, dance, and act. You are a quadruple threat, because you write as well. You are blessed four times over. You are amazing ♡♡♡ ps: I personally think The Secret is a crock of sh*t, and the epitome of toxic positivity. If only life was as easy as "manifesting" our heart's desires. I had a chuckle when you expressed (healthy) scepticism about The Secret as well.
@@yeewonlim It's so sad, when talent, hard work, and determination aren't enough. Gina was a victim of circumstance. If the world was fair, she would have debuted, and gone on to achieve great things.
@@MC-ko2mx can’t be more agree with you. I’m sure, in next life all our wishes will be heard. Nonetheless, I’m thankful for who she is now. All the past has made her her. I admire her that she is tough to share her stories, inspiring lots of people. In fact how she is living through all the hardships, how she’s coping all the situations thrown at her, still being true to herself, and to be mentally healthy again, continue her life courageously is really an example for us. Never I came across to stories that teach people what to do if your dreams doesn’t come true. I’m very glad that I’ve came across her vids and now she is my role model. For me she’s still winning!!
@@yeewonlim Definitely. Gina "lost" out on debuting, but won at life. She is incredibly intelligent, resilient and resourceful, that's for sure. She and Coco just posted Part 2 in their K-Pop Tea Spilling series. You should check it out if you have time, on Rilaccoco's channel. Gina was actually supposed to be leader of a girl group that never debuted. She definitely has that mature, "big sister" vibe, and she talks about how she dealt with some of the members that were acting up.
I just watched this whole thing and it was an incredible story, even though I know it was only the "highlights". If I could find a way I'd give you the debut you've long deserved.
@@GinaEverywhere I first saw you with Coco and got interested in your story. You mentioned you had a very specific image and music style you wanted for yourself, but I don't think you ever described it. For myself and the other viewers, may I ask you to describe what you were going for? I also know tastes and influences can change a lot over time, so if you were doing your own music now, what would be your style?
The comments below are so heartwarming. Everyone has reflected to the video and shared their own personal experiences and I haven't even started watching this video😭
Wow Gina, I can only imagine the pain you felt with everything that happened but I'm so pleased to see it didn't turn you into a bitter person rather you're so wise and beautiful being. We can't outdo fate, whatever is meant for us will happen or come to us otherwise no matter how much we want it it won't sadly but that could be God's way of protecting us. I pray you stay healthy and happy both mentally and physically always.
This was so refreshing, lately everyone just says fake/forced positive stuff, instead of being real. I felt so lonely lately cuz i no one could understand my pov but hearing ur story and the way u see life now, i feel less lonely and i wish the best for u Gina♡ Thank you for this video and existing♡♡
Thank you for telling us what you did. Your calm voice really dimmed the way fate toiled with you for so long, but in the end, you're here. You're okay. You're still standing. This was a very inspiring story, I can't tell you how fired up I am to work as hard as you did in your life. I don't care if things don't work out, but I need to at least try. How will I ever know if I'm meant for the job of I don't even try out for it? Watch me strut into that job interview tomorrow like a BOSS
I came from a video where you and another youtuber were at a cafe briefly going through the dark and dirties of the kpop industry and reality hit me like a truck. Tbh before watching these videos I really did consider becoming an idol but now that I rethink it, it all comes down to LUCK. The whole journey will be full of uncertainty and pressure. And as a foreigner, there will be even more struggles. I’m still really young and have plenty of options to choose from. If I end up pursuing as a kpop trainee, who knows what will happen? Nothing is certain even after debut and being in constant demand will be very exhausting emotionally/physically. Thank you so much for making this video :) it gave me a lot of insight and more factors to evaluate. Your story was hard to watch bc I don’t want anyone to go through it but I’m just glad you’re happy now!
You just summed up my thoughts. This is such a taboo topic especially in Korean culture where they value “hardwork” than “a natural”. I swear you can work your hardest and still not make it. It will not fall into place if it’s just not meant for you. Like even the stupidest shit can block you from doing it. Not because it is a lifelong dream doesn’t mean it will be for you.
I like what you said - because its your dream, the smallest scratch leaves the biggest scar. Its true. Been there. You just have to pick yourself up. No matter how long it takes. So thank u for sharing your story. Hope everyone took notes.
I think it really wasn't your fate to debut. Sometimes destiny also anonymously saves us, had you pursued your dreams you might would have had a self-destructive career and that was your destiny telling you to go on a better path. My father also had this feeling, even before the pandemic we were already struggling financially but my father had the feeling for us to buy a secondhand car. We told him we can't afford it and it was completely unnecessary but he still insisted as it is what his gut says. He loaned a large sum from the bank and tried his best to get the best deal he could have and just a month or two later pandemic happened and only private cars are allowed on the road. And our only source of income was my mother who needs a transportation to go to work. If my father didn't listen to his instinct we probably would be beggars today😂
The more I watched, the more I just wanted to give you a hug. You seem to be an extremaly likebale, smart and well-balanced person. Though the way you speak about all of this experiance, I can imagine you right next to BOA and IU. You give off the feeling of being confident in your music and doing what you love thought it. It's such a shame we were naver able to hear any of your songs and the fact that you have almost none recordings of your prime days is just heartbreaking. I've been a kpop fan since 2008, DBSK brought me into it and I sank since then. You talking about all this bands debiuting, albums coming out, etc, made me feel like on memory line though my kpop fan journey and I wish you were able to share the music you love back then. I'm so happy to hear people suggested therapy when you were dealing with severe deppresion and that you have so many people in your life who helped you. I guess at some point you grow up and you can't have dreams this big anymore but it's great you found other things you genuinly like to do. Keep it up, girl!
그냥 아무말 없이 그냥 안아주고싶어요....어린 나이에 다 나에게 책임을져야만 한다고 생각하는 일이 너무 많이 일어나서(근데 절대 언니 책임이 아닌거 아시죠!!) 사회에 느끼는 회의감을 너무 많이 느낀거같아서 마음아파요ㅠㅠ 상상하지 못한 기쁨이 제일 큰 것처럼 언니는 더 큰 선물이 기다리고 있을거에요 ❤️
You share a very personal story and I could only imagine the frustration and hopelessness you had to go through over in your series of unfortunate events. I'm glad to see you realize this industry may not be the best fit for you and as you say, you've become a more realistic person as an outcome. I admire your courage of speaking out and hope for the best of your new career progression. Edit: Typo
What an incredible story! I also came here after seeing you on rilacocco's channel, and after watching this and some of your other content (including your covers and your appearance on I Can See Your Voice), I also want to say I think you're amazingly talented and beautiful! The crazy part about your story is that it sounds like all along, everybody else thought so too, yet somehow one thing after another kept thwarting your debut. The fact that you made it that far though, for multiple companies, means you were successful in doing everything you could do on your part, and you clearly left strong positive impressions on a lot of people.
What an amazing story. Thank you for sharing! I hope you realize that by telling this, you do impart to your audience some level of understanding of the industry and of your self. Thank you for sharing a bit of wisdom with us. I wish you good luck and success for your future. My wish for you is that you find happiness and success in something you can consider a dream one day. I am now subscribed.
I never really wanted to be a kpop idol, I was just thinking a lot about the trainees that get cut and what are they doing now but wow. And this video really made me open my eyes more. I'm really thankful for sharing your story and I hope you are doing well :)
안녕하세요 오늘 우연히 김수미씨가 진행하시는 "밥은 먹고 다니니?" 에 출현한 조권님 영상을 보았습니다. 연습생 생활을 8년동안 하고 데뷔후 3년 차에 소속사에서 극구 반대하는데 깝을 떨어서 깝권이라고 인정받고 완전 유명해지고 떳다더군요 그당시 광고도 많이 찍고 돈을 많이 벌었는데 데뷔후 3년이 지났는데도 본인 수입은 0원 이었다네요 그 이유는 연습생 투자비라는 명목으로 빚을 갚아야 했답니다. 8년동안 연습생 시절동안 소속사에서 제공한 숙소 밥 트레이닝 ...기타등등 그 모든 비용을 연습생들이 빚의 형태로 갚아야하는 시스템이었다고 하더군요.ㅋㅋ 물론 2007-2008년사이에 공정거래위원회 에서 법이 바뀌어서 지금은 달라졌다지만, 11년동안 수익금이 0원일때 일년에 한 두번 명절에 (그해 설날) 본가를 방문 기회를 줬는데.... 그당시 유명해져서 (CF도 많이 찍고 돈을 벌어들이던 시절) 본가에 갔더니... 월세살이에 난방이 끈겨서 어머님이 찬물로 머리를 감으시는 모습을 보고 소속사 대표에게 전화해서 "이제 가수 그만 두겠습니다."라고 말 했다더군요 대표왈 "이제 다왔으니 조금만 참고하자."고 말해서 그때부터 이를 악물고 하루 1시간 자면서 미친듯이 일해서 빚갚고 11년만에 첫 수익금이 입금됬는데 ㅋㅋㅋ 금액이 고작 ￦200,000 이었다고 하더군요.... 그뒤로 차차 좋아져서 부모님 집 사드리고 효도했다던데 그야말로 해피엔딩이라 다행이지만 든는내내 너무 가여워서 눈물이나고 참 어의가 없더라구요 지나씨 하지만 괜찮아요 괜찮아! 어떤 방법이든 성공할 사람은 성공합니다. 이 영상 보다가 너무 궁금해서 저는 지나님 노래 🎵 찾아서 듣고 다시와서 글을 씁니다. 좋은곡 계속 계속 올려주세요.지금도 늦지않았어요. 100만 아니 1000만 유투버 됩시다 당신을 응원합니다 구독하고 갑니다 화이팅 부디 힘내세요.
Thank you for sharing your story. God has so much greater things in store for you! Congratulations for your acceptance into one of the world's top schools. Your perseverance is going to take you places you never imagined! Where one door closes, so many others open. I had a difficult year with regards to pandemic and college and this video really uplifted me. 💜💜💜💜 Best of luck with your future endeavors!
This was made a year ago & I wish I came across it earlier. But still whatever happens, happens for a reason. Thank you for this video Gina. I was never much into K-pop. I liked Twice, Blackpink & Red velvet but it wasn't an obsession much until this August when I came across BTS & completely fell into this dream world leaving all my studies aside. My studies are not my passion anymore due to various other reasons & K-pop became my escape. But recently started thinking about how so many put the efforts but don't get the same outcome. Its downright fucked up. I have basically ruined my exams, I am 28, jobless, unmarried so things are looking down as of now but I guess I will start again & study better. Everyone makes mistakes, falls down but still get back up sooner or later. Let's all keep going & we will definitely find things to cherish!
이 영상이 꿈을 좇는, 그리고 꿈때문에 힘들어하기도 하는 많은 이들에게 도움이 되기를 바래요 +) 그리고 언니는 내가 아는 사람 중에서 가장 특별하고 강인하고 자기 중심 있는 사람!! 그리고 너무나도 배울 점이 많은 사람! 두서없이 말한다고 했지만 그 동안의 생각들이 모이고 모여 오히려 진솔하고 담담하게 잘 전해진 거 같아요
오랫동안 지나님의 소식을 궁금해하다가 혜림님 인스타에서 지나님을 뵙게 되어 얼마나 반가운지 몰라요. 지금 바람쐬러 속초 가고 있는데 저는 정말이지 선물받은 것 같은 기분입니다. 영재육성프로젝트때 저와 나이가 같아 더욱 더 관심을 갖고 지켜보게 되었어요. 그 당시에 싸이월드에서 지나님과 주고받던 쪽지도 떠오릅니다. 저의 어릴 적 모습을 추억케 해주셔서 감사합니다. 항상 응원하겠습니다.
I wish you to be more successful in the future. Im sure you'll meet people who'll love you and break that transparent barrier for you. Thank you for sharing. Love you and please take care. 🥰
Your story is incredible. Thank you so much for sharing! I wholeheartedly believe your life is still to be filled with amazing, fulfilling, and beautiful experiences! :)
this was such an interesting video... not only about the kpop industry but about life in general... how to deal with obstacles and find happiness ... this video was really helpful...thanks!
Just came from rilacoco’s channel. I was supposed to be doing my econ notes but I’m glad I listened to your entire video. I just wanted to say I admire you for not having any regrets. I hope I’m able to say that too in the future. You have given me the inspiration to not only keep working to the best of my abilities, but to remember who I am wherever I go. So, thank you for sharing your story and inspiring me.
Thank you for sharing your interesting, dramatic journey into K-Pop. It is truly the most unique K-Pop story and one that I hope will end in you singing and releasing an album. Seems to me that music is really in your blood and you have a gift.
Thank you for sharing your story, Gina-ssi. I'm sorry that your dream didn't go through. You are so strong! While this was a story about your time in the industry, my favorite part of the video was your reflection and wisdom gained from that time. It takes a really mature person to digest their experience and come out with a realistic and grateful mindset. As someone who is going through a difficult time and wonders why things don't go the way I had hoped, listening to your reflection is encouraging and helping me to maintain my expectations. Kamsahabnida
Hi Gina, just came from the other video and I'm so incredibly amazed by how you eloquently express yourself (no wonder you're a writer!) I wish you well in your journey finding your next dream ☺️🙌
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They should make all potential trainees watch this video! For every successful idol, we forget about the 1,000 who didn't make it. Glad to see you came out of the darkness to a good place.
Thank you😀
The Average company has around 15-30 trainees and the big three has around 30-50 so there’s quite a lot more than 1,000. Each year they do auditions and some people leave and more join again.
48:32 this sentence really spoke to me: "because it's your dream, the smallest scratch can leave the biggest scar"
These days I've been struggling with the way how my university lessons were affected by the pandemic, nothing is rolling out the way I planned, but sometimes I realize that the problem actually isn't as big as I feel like it is. But I always had this dream of how my future and career would go, and seeing it go through some unfortunate paths increases the emotional impact of the whole situation
Nothing related to the entertainment industry, but your story made me reflect a little bit ^-^ thanks for sharing!
Thank you so much glad I could be of any help! 💪💪💪
I'm in my last year of uni and it's the year where I have to show my skills in order to obtain a position in the lab. However due to the pandemic, I became less motivated and more lethargic. Everything seems to be bleak, like nothing really matters anymore. But slowly i try to focus on what the end goal is and how in the end everything will turn out fine. Sorry I just feel related to what you wrote.
@@senic5401 im a senior in university too I'm supposed to be working in my graduation project but i cant find any motivations to do so everyday i wake up hoping to find motovation but it seems that i just cant find it anymore even tho i love my major
Sorry if i annoy you but i just needed to let it out its a little bit releaving to know that im not the only one struggling
English is not my first language i hope i didnt miss up
I hope things better in the near future fighting 💪
that part felt like something i needed to hear and it made me reflect a lot as well
이제야 이 영상을 봤는데 꿈이 무서운게 잡힐듯 잡히지 않는게 더 좌절한다고 하는데 10여년을 견뎌왔다는게 너무 대단하네요.. 당신의 인생이 꿈을 쫒는 그 시기보다 더 행복하고 더 즐거운 삶이길 바래요~
so.. she's supposed to debut with wonder girls.. and be the center.. but she rejected the offer.. i salute her for sticking to what she wants.. but.. damnnnnnn.. gina could have been a very successful solo artists along with sunmi and the others by now if she said yes.. but then again.. life is such a tricky clown..
Agree. If she wanted to start from the bottom, i think she will be successful by now 🥺
From gina we learned something..
You never know man. She could have accepted and somehow still been cut. It just seems like music was not in the cards for her.
저도 나름 나의 인생에 최선을 다했고 승승장구하며 교만했던 20대초반을 거처 그렇게 목숨받쳐 열공했거늘 임용에 수차례 낙방하며 인생 열심히 한다고 잘되는거 아니네 운명은 정해져 있나봐 낙심하다가 결국 수학전공으로 할게없어 학원가에 입성했어요...초반엔 임용끈 못놓고 지금은 학원에서 일하지만 난 학교에 갈꺼야라는 꿈을갖고 계속 시험봤지만 계속낙방...완벽주의 성향있어서 가르치는 아이 하나하나 부족한거 프린트해주고 보충해주고하니 애들실력은 쑥쑥..입소문나서 대치동 입성후 꽤 유명해졌어요.,,근데 그때까지도 난 여기 잠깐있는거야 난 여기떠날꺼야 이맘이 지속되더라구요ㅡㅠ
학교선생아니면 인정안하는 부모영향도 컸구요.,,
그러다 남편만나 지방으로 오면서 애증의 관계였던 수학과는 안녕하고 다른일하고 있어요...주변에서 아깝다지만 전 두번다시 수학은 보기도 싫더라구요
지나님은 아직도 음악을 사랑하시는것 같아 그점이 저랑 다른것같아요
결혼후 아이를 낳았는데 아이가 수학영재...그 싫었던 수학을 내아이를 가르치는데 쓰게될줄 누가알았겠어요ㅠ
인생이란 이렇듯 한치앞을 알수없는것 같아요
그 힘든시간을 통해 교만했던 내가 다듬어지고 낮아졌지만 다시 그 시간을 겪고싶진않네요ㅠ
I am here from rilaccoco, both channels which I stumbled upon today. I have never listened to someone speak for so long, but your story and the way you speak made me want to listen more. After listening to the whole thing I can confidently say, I admire you! You're special. God made you different. Holding on to what you believe in and working towards it no matter how many obstacles are put in your way, (and stopping only when you don't want to anymore) is something not many people can do. I highly admire such people. You're the rarest of the rarest. I'm sure you have much better stuff planned out for you that you aren't aware of yet. I am terrible in putting my thoughts into words, but listening to this made me feel so many emotions I haven't felt in a long time that I was compelled to comment. I have subscribed and will be supporting you now onwards all the way here from India. Please stay safe, healthy, and happy. Loads of love.
Thank you soooooo much for such kind and sincere words! This was the first thing I read when I woke up this morning, it totally made my day. 😘
@@GinaEverywhere gosh! so glad I could 😭❤
@@GinaEverywhere 🥰💙
I also came from rilaccoco!!!
Exactly my thoughts! I also stumbled across from rilacocco. Gina is crazy eloquent, honest and yes, so pretty.
I was talking about this with a friend of mine (just also happens to be an ex-trainee) not so long ago. We’re both relatively young (early 20s) but I feel like the part about when your dream is at stake, small scratches leave big scars is really relevant.
For example, we both experienced the death of the dream at similar times. Mine was getting into a certain dance group (I used to believe that if I just practiced more and got good enough I would be a definite shoe in, but what hurt me more than the rejection of my dance skill was the evaluation of me as a human being and I have since realised that no amount of change both personal and skill wise will convince them to accept me). My friend was literally weeks away from debut and then abruptly let go. (It wasn’t because of skill or lack of perseverance or lack of visuals the situation just sucked). This is something they are still struggling with.
In retrospect, I understand. Part of me feels like maybe these things were not meant to be for us and it’s all for the better, but another part wants to get angry and ask why things can’t be fair. But “fair” is not something for us to decide is it? These were the cards we were dealt and even though they weren’t the ones we wanted we both left as better dancers/performers and hopefully better/more mature people.
These are just some thoughts that have been stewing in my mind that I find difficult to talk about because it’s hard to find people to understand the nuances (in my life anyway). I really appreciate and admire your outlook on life - maybe it’s better not to have dream. It’s such an emotionally taxing thing to pour your life’s energy into wanting something so badly that if your not careful it can take you somewhere where you no longer recognise yourself.
I relate to your struggle to keep your values and your sense of self within sight- it’s something I’ve had to fight to keep because if you let go it’s a slippery slope to a very dark place. I also wholeheartedly agree with the ‘living with no regrets’ mindset. I’m glad that you drew a line in the sand and set your boundaries and put your best interests first.
This is all just a long message to say: I’m glad you’re happy now Gina. I wish you nothing but the best and I hope you continue to live without regrets.
Ok I’ll stop talking now bye.
진짜 마음아픈 얘기를 덤덤하게 미소를 잃지 않고 하시는게 너무 대단한 것 같아요. 대담해요. 이겨내신 그 멘탈 어떤걸 하셔도 결국은 성공하실거에요!
11:52 집중력/시간 부족하신 분은 여기부터 보세요 . 끝없이 사건과 사건들을 겪고 얼마나 힘드셨을지 상상이 안되는데 덕분에 초연해졌다고 말하시는거보니 정말로 성숙하시단 생각이 들어요. 넘 멋지세요. 우울증 극복 멘탈관리 법 공유 궁금해요😍 앞으루 영상들 기대되요
정성스럽고 따뜻한 리플 감사해요 우울극복 멘탈관리 영상도 곧 만들어 볼게요 저도 구독하러가요:)
이언니 여기에 ㅋㅋ글남기셨군요
Gina, you clearly have talent (recognized by JYP and all of your colleagues, worked very hard and proved yourself in multiple agencies). In addition to that you are a person of intelligence, depth and eloquence. I have an INTJ friend whom you remind me of. Similar to you, she is also outwardly pretty, bad ass smart and with much inner substance. You had a difficult journey, but the realizations you arrived at are soooo precious. They make you wise beyond your years.
Omg the fact that she was always "almost" debut but there always something happened to block it, like its what people called a destiny exsist.
Thank you for sharing; it was truly inspiring and heartfelt. Though things weren't meant to be as a kpop artist, perhaps you were made for something much bigger; beauty and brains can go so much further. As a pop follower since the first-gen, the industry could really use your expertise in assisting the younger gen in mentally preparing for the brutal industry. Your journey may be a mess, but you can turn it into a message. I applaud you for having a strong mentality to face all those difficult business situations; nonetheless, you shouldn't have to face. All the best luck to you and all future endeavors!
Thank you so much for the kind words I really appreciate it :)
Wow, the universe was trying freaking hard to steer you away from the Kpop industry! Glad you prevailed and are living a happier life now
솔직하게 인생사를 공유해주셔서 감사해요.
아오 어린나이에 산전수전 다 겪으셨네요.
꿈이라는게 참 뭔지...
지나님의 끈기와 용기만큼은 진실이라고 느껴요.
말씀하시는거 보면 뭘 하셔도 되실 분이란게 느껴져요 스무살 어린 나이에 혼자 법공부 해서 소송 진행한것부터며..
아이돌이 되든 아니든 어릴 때부터 꿈을 정하고 노력했다는 점만 봐도 대단하다고 생각합니다.
확실히 재능도 있어서 가수가 안되더라도 다른 쪽으로 에너지 넘치는 활동을 하더라구요
저는 어릴 때 코나 파고 있었는데....지금도 열심히 팝니다.
그래..맹지나.. 어케 지내는지 궁금했었는데 이런 사연들이 있었구나.. 진짜 인생은 실력도 중요하지만 순간 선택, 타이밍과 운도 너무 중요한거 같음.
마지막 말하는 거 듣다 보니까 오랜시간 데뷔 무산이라는 일을 겪고 세상을 보는 시각이 굉장히 냉소적으로 변했다는게 느껴지네..
정말우연히들리게되었어요, 저는초2딸아이를키우고있어요
춤과노래를좋아해서 배우고있는데 지역행사에 초청되어 안무연습과정에서 센터에서질못해 울음을 터뜨리는 아이를 보고있자니 맘이 너무 안좋아요 ㅜㅜ취미로시작한것이었는데 아이에게 너무나 큰 무엇이되어 있더라구요.. 큰일을겪어도 무너지지않고 이겨낸 님의 모습을보니 너무 멋지네요
맞아요 살면서 노력한다고 다 되는건 아니고 팔자가 있구나 하는 생각도 들더라구요 지나씨는 마음그릇이 크고 튼튼한거 같아요! 앞으로도 하고 싶은일 다하고 즐겁고 행복하게 지냈으면 해요 꽃길만 걸읍시다🧡
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Just by you talking, I can tell you have a beautiful soul! I admire you for not doing what you think isn't right for you! I cannot imagine myself turning down to be the center of a group like Wonder Girls!
Thank you so much :)
이렇게까지 기구할 수 있을까 싶을 정도의 이야기네요. ㅠㅠ 앞으로 하실 모든 일들을 응원합니다. 💐
Wow! You should turn your story into a K-Drama. You have hella strength to make it through all that. The stories just bring me to tears over and over. Props.
꼭 안아 드리고 싶네요. 토닥토닥. 그 시간이 결코 버려진 시간이 아니었을 거라 생각이 들어요. 그 시간이 있었기에 지금의 지나님이 있구나 라는 생각이 드네요. 지금도 충분히 반짝반짝 아름다워요! 축복해요!!
감사해요🙂♡
참 들어보면 jyp 는 사람을 소중히 생각하는듯요 오랜 연습생들 전부는 아니겠지만 꼭 데뷔를 시켜준다는 민도 그렇고 트와이스 지효도 스트레이키즈 리더도 8년만에 데뷔한거 보면 구지 꺼내지 않으셔도 되는 이야기를 하시다니 정말 큰 용기가 있어야 하지 않았나 생각이 듭니다 과거에 메여 있지 않으실거라 봅니다 앞으로 스타같은 생활이 꼭 행복한것은 아닙니다 지금의 모습이 더 소중하고 또 10년후에 보시면 지금이 정말 아름다운 나의 날들이었구나 라고 느끼실겁니다 항상 응원할게요 가까운곳에 있으시다면 조용히 밥값 결제해드리고 싶네요 앞으로 행복만이 가득하길 진심으로 바랍니다 ^^*
진짜... 몇번을 엎어져도 그냥 앞만 보고 다시 달려나갈 사람...
얼마나 큰 사람이 되게하려고 세상이 지나님을 숨겼는지 궁금할 정도로 앞으로의 모습이 기대돼요!! 응원할게요
Thank you for your story! Jo Kwon sent me here via Instastory! ^_^
우연히 추천영상에 떠서 보게 되었어요 같은 나이라 그런가 더 만감이 교차하는 느낌이네요
오랜만에 얼굴도 보고 이야기도 듣고 반가웠어요
너무 멋있고 단단한 사람이네요 저는 그 때 영재육성 본방사수하던 때에서 하나도 성장하지 못하고 시간만 버려온 느낌이라 너무 부끄럽고요 ㅠㅠ
그래도 응원합니다 새로운 꿈 꼭 찾으시고 이루실 수 있길 바라요 그치만 말씀하셨듯 또 꿈이 생기면 힘든 점도 많으니까... 그냥 무엇이 되었든간에 앞으로 남은 시간 지나씨의 마음이 행복하기만을 바랍니다 힘들고 슬프고 고통스러운 일들은 아주아주 최소한으로 아주 적기를 바라요
너무 멋진 분의 삶의 한부분을 나눠주셔서 고맙습니다
저도 본받아서 좀 더 열심히 살도록 노력해볼게요
진심담아 남겨주신 글 감사해요 저도 응원할게요😀
Maybe you should write a musical based on your story or even a Kdrama. It has all the elements of a drama, just add some love story in it. But this is a perfect script. Maybe write the OST and sing it. That will be a revenge on destiny and an opportunity for you ti show the world and shine.
This sounds like such a good concept tbh
Doesnt hv to hv a love story tbh
"revenge on destiny" i like that
최선의 끝까지 해보셔서 미련이 없으신것 같습니다..이렇게 담담하기까지 얼마나 마음고생이 심하셨을지...지나씨 뿐 아니라 부모님도 많이 아프셨을것 같아요..
과거의 쓴 경험이 앞으로의 자양분이 되실꺼예요.
가끔은 뜻을 꺾을때도 있어야 소위 잘 나가게 되는것은 어느분야든 마찬가지인것 같습니다.. 뜻을 꺾었다고 진짜 꺾은 것이 아니라 과정의 일부인것 같아요..
아직 설레는 꿈이 있다는 것이 가장 부럽습니다. 무슨일이 일어나든 일희일비하지 않는 것이 경험에서 오는 짬인것 같아요..지금은 대박인것 같아도 나중에 보면 독인 경우도 많죠.. 유튜브가 있어서 즐겁게 커버 영상도 올릴 수가 있어서 감사한 시대인것 같습니다.
잘풀린다 생각했던 30대에 생각조차 해본적 없던 암투병을 하며 남은 것은..
당연했던 일들의 감사였어요. 그리고 힘들때 옆에 있던 소중한 나의 사람들^^
이렇게 긴 영상을 끝까지 보게 될 줄 몰랐는데 40대 후반의 공감댓글입니다^^
힘든 고난은 축복을 위한 과정이라죠~
소중한 영상 감사합니다
감사합니다.♡
이렇게 이야기해주시는 것만으로도 참 감사드려요!이야기를 듣는것만으로 제게 힘이됐어요,,!!
운과 자신의 선택의 중요성을 알려주는 영상이네요!
미련남지 않냐는 질문 그리고 그에 대한 대답.
정말 맞는 말 같아요. 분야가 달라도. 본인의 꿈을 위해서 전부를 걸어봤던분들은 비슷하게 생각할거 같아요.
다른사람이 봤을때가 아닌 내가 나를 봤을때 정말로 있는 모든것을 걸고 최선을 다했다면 그 결과가 어떠하던 미련남지 않게 되는거 같아요. 그리고 그 결과가 어떠하던 그 과정도 분명 살아가는데 있어서 도움이 될거라고 확신하구요.
진짜 보는 내내 .. 경악을.. 꿈을 못이뤄서 좋다 나뿌다 라고 말할순 없지만여..그 과정들을 겪고 현재의 단단한 지나님이 있는거니깐요. 과정은 진짜 와 저게 다 한사람이 겪은 일이라는게 너무 속상하긴 하네요..
Dang I can’t imagine representing myself as a freshman in college. Gina is amazing!!!
"Never genuinely scared, intimidated, nor surprised by anything anymore." It sounds like through your arduous journey, you've gained true freedom and wisdom, which I think are the greatest gifts of all. I really love and appreciate your personality. You seem very grounded, self-aware and centered. Thank you so much for sharing your story.
와 정말 멋있다 어떡하냐 진짜 멋있다
Thanks Gina for sharing your incredible story. Even though I never dreamt of being a singer, I found your story is very healing for my situation right now. I just got rejected from a big career opportunity and I was feeling sad for myself. Listening to your story, I learned a lot about perseverance and acceptance. ✨ Your story is so inspiring, I hope that more people can hear it in the future.
Hey, I'm here from a recent video you made with Coco.
Unknowingly I've watched you tell your story for an hour, it really flew by.
And WOW, what an amazingly strong woman you are! The situations you've been in are wild even if you're trying to write fiction. How these events take place out of your control, which block your debut all these years and at all these promising companies. It can make one cynical. It's heartwarming to you have made good friends who were at your side when you needed them. Just having someone care enough to be there with you physically is precious. As you've concluded yourself, it prevented you from being pessimistic or cynical, you're now a realistic person, a wiser person I'd say, and stonger.
I admire how you are able to shrug off adversity now.
You're amazing!
Thank you so much for such sincere words♡
너가 가장 힘들어하고 우울해 했을 때 조차도 넌 그 누구보다 반짝이고 반짝였어 ..! 지금도 여전히💕
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Ms. Gina, I watched the whole 56 minutes and 44 seconds of your video! Thank you for sharing your story. You worked so hard to become a singer, but fate still decided a different life path for you. But thankfully, through your trials you had so many people supporting you and always beside you. I'm glad that you are content with your life right now, and I hope that you continue to find new dreams to follow. Be happy and healthy! ^_^
Your comment means so much, thank you
맹지나 작가님 책 읽고 이탈리아 여행을 가고 싶다는 꿈을 가지게 되었어요~ 감사합니다❤
You are beautiful Gina, it all happens for a reason.
Tbh, I salute you Gina. There’s so many ways to grab people attention in the way you want to nowadays, without all the toxicity idols have to go through. Debuting doesn’t equal success; the way you have learnt to be so open and down to earth along the way, creating a supportive network that backs you when you need it is your success. You seem to know your boundaries clearly and I think this is a great trait to keep as you embark on future journeys. Congratulations on deciding to close this chapter of your life to begin the next. I can say from experience that it’s one of the hardest things to do in life, but better things always await you around the corner!
Thank you. :)
Your story is incredible you have so much resilience and I respect you so much for going through all of this! I hope you achieve everything you could ever dream of
_맹지나... 내 맘속에 슈퍼스타..._
oh wow this felt painful to me and i didn’t even experience it firsthand so i can’t even imagine how it’s like to think back on those 15 years..... gina, you’re so strong!!
i’m here from rilacoco! i hope to become a trainee but i’m half korean and half ethiopian and i heard they don’t really accept black people but i’ll keep trying and hopefully a small company will accept me! thank you for sharing your story
You should look the group black swan up and when you have the talent and the will, I am sure you can make it ^^
Thank you so much for sharing. Your journey is beautiful and can help others who might be feeling discouraged along their path. Very wise reflections. Wishing you the best.
Fate/ destiny indeed plays a big role in our lives. It is so inspiring after all these setbacks you didn’t give up on your dream and left no stone unturned to make it come true. Even though you aren’t an Idol today, to me you are shining brighter than any Idol out there because this journey prepared you for LIFE. It brought you wisdom, sensibility and a level of emotional maturity which so many people desire to achieve before they die.
I applaud you for telling us about your experiences with such grace. I saw you on Rilacoco’s channel & I could tell you are an extremely observant person. You revealed so much about internal girl groups struggles that no one has ever discussed. (...like why the opening lines are most coveted over singing the chorus.)
This isn’t my story but I feel so salty that you didn’t get the big debut! So unfair of Fate to continuously dangle this carrot in front of you just yank it away at its own convenience. I would’ve loved supporting you especially during the golden age of Kpop with Wonder Girls, SNSD, 2AM, BIGBANG, etc. 😭 I mean, you’re just as talented as the next idol.
When one of the CEOs suggested you needed therapy after you performed for him. I FELT THAT. The pain and disappointment you must’ve felt while watching your peers making it happen for themselves must’ve been unbearable. It doesn’t make any sense why you also couldn’t make it big. You had all the connections. You knew all the most talented people. You had the vocals. You definitely had the looks!!! It just makes me so salty for you!!! This just goes to show that can work our asses off for our dreams and life still doesn’t owe us any success.
Gina, I wish you well wherever you go. I wish so much success and happiness whatever you choose to do from this point on! You really deserve it! 😭
Thank you so much for such kind words♡
예전에 싸이월드에서 파리에 가셨다가 한국에 돌아오는게 너무 싫어서 샤를드골 공항에서 울었다는 글이 기억에 남는데 이 영상을 보니 왜 그랬었는지 알것같네요...ㅜㅜ 하... 우울함이 바닥을 쳤다했는데 땅굴을 파고 더 들어간다는 표현도 기억나네요. 그땐 왜 그렇게 힘들고 우울한지 제3자는 전혀 알 수 없으니까요..ㅜㅜ 언니 너무 고생하셨어요...!!
너무너무 고마워요♡!
when you talked about your freshman year of college, all i could think about was how insanely strong you were. you went through so much and honestly i feel so proud of you for being able to do so much and i also thank you for your bravery in sharing your story
Thank you so so much so sweet💓
Lucky me to find this video through a collaboration you did in your friend's channel.
thank you! Glad you did :)
@@GinaEverywhere my pleasure, it's an eye opening story.
Wow I just finished Wow, I just finished your video and the only thing that I can think about is that I admire you and I am jeallous. I admire you because I can sense the wise and mature person you are, and how even after all the things you mention to lived (and the ones you didn't) you managed to exprese it in a clear and deep way so the viewer could feel it too, I wish I can be the same way in the future. And second, I got jeallous because you have or had a dream that you pursued with all of your heart until the point that event if you couldn't reach it you do not fell regrets, I am a person that has lived for 30 years without a dream and that is frustating, because at a certain point I feel like a zombie that only lives because it can, I am grateful to be alive don't get me wrong, but I think taht this is like a saying in spanish "es mejor haber amado y perdido que nunca haber amado" that will translate as "it is better to have loved and lost than never to have loved" and it clearly applies also for dreams or atleast I see it that way.
I will keep in my heart all the things that I learned from you in this video and try to live in a better way.
I wish you all the best and I wish that the live, destiny, universe or however you want to name it, let us to keep growing and be happy.
Thank you soooo much for such sweet sincere words♡
after all of what happened to you, it's a blessing you went through it and became a person you are now. you are a true inspiration.
Thank you so much for such kind words :)
어떻게 사람 인생이 이럴수가.. 존경스럽네요 ..
Thank You for sharing!
You seem like you're such and nice and genuine person.
I'm happy that you had good people beside your rough time as a trainee.
You are so sweet thank you :)
Gina, thanks for share with us a bit of you!! I hope you make more of this vlogs! 😉
Thank you so much! I will keep them coming :)
You are such a strong person for being still happy now despite what happened
Thank you♡
damn.. gina unnie.. your story will definitely be a hit. if it was turned into a kdrama series.. or even a movie.. i just wish you are happy now.. with where you are and what you are.. i really wish you all the best... and i hope you all the happiness in the world..
I've been a kpop fan for now as long as you were a trainee. As a foreigner with a little less than basic understanding of Korean and ... who are we kidding ... very few ACTUAL understanding how Korean culture really works, I've always suspected these things go on, but of course it's something else when you hear it from someone who experienced them and is credible. I feel that the importance of what you are saying, about your experience in that field, can not be emphasized enough.
Because it stretches not only from the not very isolated kpop industry but into other industries as well, like for example, as you described, the musical industry. Many people are put on the backburner and probably will never make it and don't leave this situation so unscathed. From what I understand, JYP seemed to treat everyone quite decently, but for JYP there's a ton of agencies who don't look after their artists very well - and the pressure this puts on people, humans, mere CHILDREN, is unimaginable.
If more people would tell about what the industry is like, make children (and their parents) would think twice of entering and fans had more reasonable and realistic ideas about what it is they are actually consuming and maybe make demands that could ultimately help the well-being of their artists. One can only hope.
Thank you very much for talking about this.
Wow. just wow what a journey. So many people only look at the result, the outcome to determine success but this whole story in itself just shows your determination in life since such a young age, all the battlescars and everything you should be so so proud of. 진짜 너무 멋지고 박수칩니다!!! 다음에 꼭 그 과정을 걷고, 넘어졌을때의 극복법 나눠주시면 비슷한 경험하신 분들도 너무 힘이 될거같아요. 앞으로 응뤈하겠습니다!!
감사합니다😀 좀 더 많은 이야기 나누는 영상도 얼른 만들어볼게요!
I believe you are where you are, for a reason.
No one could have tried harder, or longer.
But in another life, wouldn't it be fun to imagine you and Jo Kwon performing in a musical together?
You are such great pals, and your duet on ICSYV was amazing.
Also, can we just take a moment to appreciate your achievements?
Offers from the most prestigious universities in South Korea, a partial scholarship (while single-handedly fighting a lawsuit!), and author of 20+ books?
People talk about triple threats - those who can sing, dance, and act.
You are a quadruple threat, because you write as well.
You are blessed four times over.
You are amazing ♡♡♡
ps: I personally think The Secret is a crock of sh*t, and the epitome of toxic positivity.
If only life was as easy as "manifesting" our heart's desires.
I had a chuckle when you expressed (healthy) scepticism about The Secret as well.
I hope in another life she will realised her dream as singer too. Such crazy talent and and big heart.
@@yeewonlim It's so sad, when talent, hard work, and determination aren't enough.
Gina was a victim of circumstance.
If the world was fair, she would have debuted, and gone on to achieve great things.
@@MC-ko2mx can’t be more agree with you. I’m sure, in next life all our wishes will be heard. Nonetheless, I’m thankful for who she is now. All the past has made her her. I admire her that she is tough to share her stories, inspiring lots of people. In fact how she is living through all the hardships, how she’s coping all the situations thrown at her, still being true to herself, and to be mentally healthy again, continue her life courageously is really an example for us. Never I came across to stories that teach people what to do if your dreams doesn’t come true. I’m very glad that I’ve came across her vids and now she is my role model. For me she’s still winning!!
@@yeewonlim Definitely.
Gina "lost" out on debuting, but won at life.
She is incredibly intelligent, resilient and resourceful, that's for sure.
She and Coco just posted Part 2 in their K-Pop Tea Spilling series.
You should check it out if you have time, on Rilaccoco's channel.
Gina was actually supposed to be leader of a girl group that never debuted.
She definitely has that mature, "big sister" vibe, and she talks about how she dealt with some of the members that were acting up.
@@MC-ko2mx agree!! I’ve watched that! Yesss she has unnie vibes, rly warm person, I can feel it through the screen!
더 잘했으면, 더 간절했으면, 더 열심히했으면, 더 오래했으면 그런말 다 부질없어요. 그냥 팔자인거같아요.
I just watched this whole thing and it was an incredible story, even though I know it was only the "highlights". If I could find a way I'd give you the debut you've long deserved.
That's so sweet thank you :)
@@GinaEverywhere I first saw you with Coco and got interested in your story. You mentioned you had a very specific image and music style you wanted for yourself, but I don't think you ever described it. For myself and the other viewers, may I ask you to describe what you were going for? I also know tastes and influences can change a lot over time, so if you were doing your own music now, what would be your style?
정말 신기하네요. 이 영상이 지나님 영상중 처음 본 영상인데 (방금) 보면서 너무 똑부러지셔서 로스쿨 진학하시는 것도 좋겠다 생각했거든요. 구독신청하고 동영상 목록보니 이미 도전하셨네요. ㅎㅎ 뭘 하든 행복하시길 빌어요
The comments below are so heartwarming. Everyone has reflected to the video and shared their own personal experiences and I haven't even started watching this video😭
I heard one of the artist named G.Soul, he was said to also train for 15 years in Jyp before debuting in a different company
You’re such a strong girl omg...
This is so inspirational. I wish you all the best. You are truly shining
Wow Gina, I can only imagine the pain you felt with everything that happened but I'm so pleased to see it didn't turn you into a bitter person rather you're so wise and beautiful being. We can't outdo fate, whatever is meant for us will happen or come to us otherwise no matter how much we want it it won't sadly but that could be God's way of protecting us. I pray you stay healthy and happy both mentally and physically always.
Thank you so much♡
This was so refreshing, lately everyone just says fake/forced positive stuff, instead of being real. I felt so lonely lately cuz i no one could understand my pov but hearing ur story and the way u see life now, i feel less lonely and i wish the best for u Gina♡
Thank you for this video and existing♡♡
Thank you for telling us what you did. Your calm voice really dimmed the way fate toiled with you for so long, but in the end, you're here. You're okay. You're still standing.
This was a very inspiring story, I can't tell you how fired up I am to work as hard as you did in your life. I don't care if things don't work out, but I need to at least try. How will I ever know if I'm meant for the job of I don't even try out for it?
Watch me strut into that job interview tomorrow like a BOSS
I came from a video where you and another youtuber were at a cafe briefly going through the dark and dirties of the kpop industry and reality hit me like a truck. Tbh before watching these videos I really did consider becoming an idol but now that I rethink it, it all comes down to LUCK. The whole journey will be full of uncertainty and pressure. And as a foreigner, there will be even more struggles. I’m still really young and have plenty of options to choose from. If I end up pursuing as a kpop trainee, who knows what will happen? Nothing is certain even after debut and being in constant demand will be very exhausting emotionally/physically. Thank you so much for making this video :) it gave me a lot of insight and more factors to evaluate. Your story was hard to watch bc I don’t want anyone to go through it but I’m just glad you’re happy now!
Thank you so much :)
You just summed up my thoughts. This is such a taboo topic especially in Korean culture where they value “hardwork” than “a natural”. I swear you can work your hardest and still not make it. It will not fall into place if it’s just not meant for you. Like even the stupidest shit can block you from doing it. Not because it is a lifelong dream doesn’t mean it will be for you.
언니 진짜 고생많았어요 ㅠ 수고했어요 ㅠ 언니 진짜 대단한거같아요 ㅠ
고마워요♡
I like what you said - because its your dream, the smallest scratch leaves the biggest scar. Its true. Been there. You just have to pick yourself up. No matter how long it takes. So thank u for sharing your story. Hope everyone took notes.
The entire trainee process forces one to grow up quickly. This was very insightful, and your resilience needs to be commended. You're incredible 💗✨
I think it really wasn't your fate to debut. Sometimes destiny also anonymously saves us, had you pursued your dreams you might would have had a self-destructive career and that was your destiny telling you to go on a better path.
My father also had this feeling, even before the pandemic we were already struggling financially but my father had the feeling for us to buy a secondhand car. We told him we can't afford it and it was completely unnecessary but he still insisted as it is what his gut says. He loaned a large sum from the bank and tried his best to get the best deal he could have and just a month or two later pandemic happened and only private cars are allowed on the road. And our only source of income was my mother who needs a transportation to go to work. If my father didn't listen to his instinct we probably would be beggars today😂
Thank you for the kind words and also for sharing your personal story♡
모든게 선택과 타이밍 입니다~ 앞으로의 인생을 아름답게 사세요~
The more I watched, the more I just wanted to give you a hug. You seem to be an extremaly likebale, smart and well-balanced person. Though the way you speak about all of this experiance, I can imagine you right next to BOA and IU. You give off the feeling of being confident in your music and doing what you love thought it. It's such a shame we were naver able to hear any of your songs and the fact that you have almost none recordings of your prime days is just heartbreaking.
I've been a kpop fan since 2008, DBSK brought me into it and I sank since then. You talking about all this bands debiuting, albums coming out, etc, made me feel like on memory line though my kpop fan journey and I wish you were able to share the music you love back then.
I'm so happy to hear people suggested therapy when you were dealing with severe deppresion and that you have so many people in your life who helped you.
I guess at some point you grow up and you can't have dreams this big anymore but it's great you found other things you genuinly like to do. Keep it up, girl!
그냥 아무말 없이 그냥 안아주고싶어요....어린 나이에 다 나에게 책임을져야만 한다고 생각하는 일이 너무 많이 일어나서(근데 절대 언니 책임이 아닌거 아시죠!!) 사회에 느끼는 회의감을 너무 많이 느낀거같아서 마음아파요ㅠㅠ 상상하지 못한 기쁨이 제일 큰 것처럼 언니는 더 큰 선물이 기다리고 있을거에요 ❤️
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You share a very personal story and I could only imagine the frustration and hopelessness you had to go through over in your series of unfortunate events. I'm glad to see you realize this industry may not be the best fit for you and as you say, you've become a more realistic person as an outcome. I admire your courage of speaking out and hope for the best of your new career progression.
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Thank you so much for such kind words, I'm touched :)
What an incredible story! I also came here after seeing you on rilacocco's channel, and after watching this and some of your other content (including your covers and your appearance on I Can See Your Voice), I also want to say I think you're amazingly talented and beautiful! The crazy part about your story is that it sounds like all along, everybody else thought so too, yet somehow one thing after another kept thwarting your debut. The fact that you made it that far though, for multiple companies, means you were successful in doing everything you could do on your part, and you clearly left strong positive impressions on a lot of people.
What an amazing story. Thank you for sharing! I hope you realize that by telling this, you do impart to your audience some level of understanding of the industry and of your self. Thank you for sharing a bit of wisdom with us. I wish you good luck and success for your future. My wish for you is that you find happiness and success in something you can consider a dream one day. I am now subscribed.
Thank you so much for such nice words
I never really wanted to be a kpop idol, I was just thinking a lot about the trainees that get cut and what are they doing now but wow. And this video really made me open my eyes more. I'm really thankful for sharing your story and I hope you are doing well :)
안녕하세요
오늘 우연히 김수미씨가 진행하시는 "밥은 먹고 다니니?" 에 출현한 조권님 영상을 보았습니다.
연습생 생활을 8년동안 하고 데뷔후 3년 차에 소속사에서 극구 반대하는데 깝을 떨어서 깝권이라고 인정받고 완전 유명해지고 떳다더군요
그당시 광고도 많이 찍고 돈을 많이 벌었는데
데뷔후 3년이 지났는데도 본인 수입은 0원 이었다네요 그 이유는 연습생 투자비라는 명목으로 빚을 갚아야 했답니다. 8년동안 연습생 시절동안 소속사에서 제공한 숙소 밥 트레이닝 ...기타등등 그 모든 비용을 연습생들이 빚의 형태로 갚아야하는 시스템이었다고 하더군요.ㅋㅋ
물론 2007-2008년사이에 공정거래위원회 에서 법이 바뀌어서 지금은 달라졌다지만,
11년동안 수익금이 0원일때 일년에 한 두번 명절에 (그해 설날) 본가를 방문 기회를 줬는데....
그당시 유명해져서 (CF도 많이 찍고 돈을 벌어들이던 시절) 본가에 갔더니... 월세살이에 난방이 끈겨서 어머님이 찬물로 머리를 감으시는 모습을 보고 소속사 대표에게 전화해서 "이제 가수 그만 두겠습니다."라고 말 했다더군요 대표왈 "이제 다왔으니 조금만 참고하자."고 말해서 그때부터 이를 악물고 하루 1시간 자면서 미친듯이 일해서 빚갚고 11년만에 첫 수익금이 입금됬는데 ㅋㅋㅋ 금액이 고작 ￦200,000 이었다고 하더군요....
그뒤로 차차 좋아져서 부모님 집 사드리고 효도했다던데 그야말로 해피엔딩이라 다행이지만 든는내내 너무 가여워서 눈물이나고 참 어의가 없더라구요
지나씨 하지만 괜찮아요 괜찮아! 어떤 방법이든 성공할 사람은 성공합니다.
이 영상 보다가 너무 궁금해서 저는 지나님 노래 🎵 찾아서 듣고 다시와서 글을 씁니다.
좋은곡 계속 계속 올려주세요.지금도 늦지않았어요.
100만 아니 1000만 유투버 됩시다
당신을 응원합니다
구독하고 갑니다
화이팅 부디 힘내세요.
50여년을넘게 살아본 1인이 본
당신은 더 멋지게 인생을 살아낼것같은 강인함이 보이네요...
멋져요👍
Thank you for sharing your story. God has so much greater things in store for you! Congratulations for your acceptance into one of the world's top schools. Your perseverance is going to take you places you never imagined! Where one door closes, so many others open. I had a difficult year with regards to pandemic and college and this video really uplifted me. 💜💜💜💜 Best of luck with your future endeavors!
와..........맨탈이 이정도는 되야 이런 멋있는 사람이 되는구낭...
This was made a year ago & I wish I came across it earlier. But still whatever happens, happens for a reason. Thank you for this video Gina. I was never much into K-pop. I liked Twice, Blackpink & Red velvet but it wasn't an obsession much until this August when I came across BTS & completely fell into this dream world leaving all my studies aside. My studies are not my passion anymore due to various other reasons & K-pop became my escape. But recently started thinking about how so many put the efforts but don't get the same outcome. Its downright fucked up. I have basically ruined my exams, I am 28, jobless, unmarried so things are looking down as of now but I guess I will start again & study better. Everyone makes mistakes, falls down but still get back up sooner or later. Let's all keep going & we will definitely find things to cherish!
Thank you so much for the sweet words. Great things ahead for everyone!
이 영상이 꿈을 좇는, 그리고 꿈때문에 힘들어하기도 하는 많은 이들에게 도움이 되기를 바래요
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그리고 언니는 내가 아는 사람 중에서 가장 특별하고 강인하고 자기 중심 있는 사람!! 그리고 너무나도 배울 점이 많은 사람!
두서없이 말한다고 했지만 그 동안의 생각들이 모이고 모여 오히려 진솔하고 담담하게 잘 전해진 거 같아요
개원하고 정신없이 바쁠텐데 시간내어 봐주어 고마워♡ 특.강.자중있 브리😘
Wow i finished the whole video ! it's so sad but i think there's always a reason why. Please keep fighting! Your journey is so wah!
오랫동안 지나님의 소식을 궁금해하다가 혜림님 인스타에서 지나님을 뵙게 되어 얼마나 반가운지 몰라요. 지금 바람쐬러 속초 가고 있는데 저는 정말이지 선물받은 것 같은 기분입니다. 영재육성프로젝트때 저와 나이가 같아 더욱 더 관심을 갖고 지켜보게 되었어요. 그 당시에 싸이월드에서 지나님과 주고받던 쪽지도 떠오릅니다. 저의 어릴 적 모습을 추억케 해주셔서 감사합니다. 항상 응원하겠습니다.
따뜻한말 남겨주셔서 정말 감사합니다♡ 속초에서 즐거운 시간 안전하게 보내고 오세요!
Sisyphus. That's who I was trying to think of. You are an actual living example of Sisyphus. Fighting!
Thank you :D
I wish you to be more successful in the future. Im sure you'll meet people who'll love you and break that transparent barrier for you. Thank you for sharing. Love you and please take care. 🥰
Your story is incredible. Thank you so much for sharing! I wholeheartedly believe your life is still to be filled with amazing, fulfilling, and beautiful experiences! :)
this was such an interesting video... not only about the kpop industry but about life in general... how to deal with obstacles and find happiness ... this video was really helpful...thanks!
Just came from rilacoco’s channel. I was supposed to be doing my econ notes but I’m glad I listened to your entire video. I just wanted to say I admire you for not having any regrets. I hope I’m able to say that too in the future. You have given me the inspiration to not only keep working to the best of my abilities, but to remember who I am wherever I go. So, thank you for sharing your story and inspiring me.
Thank you so much :)
Thank you for sharing your interesting, dramatic journey into K-Pop. It is truly the most unique K-Pop story and one that I hope will end in you singing and releasing an album. Seems to me that music is really in your blood and you have a gift.
Thank you for sharing your story, Gina-ssi. I'm sorry that your dream didn't go through. You are so strong! While this was a story about your time in the industry, my favorite part of the video was your reflection and wisdom gained from that time. It takes a really mature person to digest their experience and come out with a realistic and grateful mindset. As someone who is going through a difficult time and wonders why things don't go the way I had hoped, listening to your reflection is encouraging and helping me to maintain my expectations. Kamsahabnida
Thank YOU! ♡♡♡
Hi Gina, just came from the other video and I'm so incredibly amazed by how you eloquently express yourself (no wonder you're a writer!) I wish you well in your journey finding your next dream ☺️🙌
토닥 토닥 ㅠㅠ 정말 고생했어요 ㅠㅠ