Heartfelt condolences ❤🤗🙏 Prayers for your mother's soul as well as your family 🙏 I have been watching your reviews since long even when you were doing it for other channels. You have always been doing a fantastic job. Keep going.👏All the very best 👍
I'm very sorry to hear about your loss Bobby, may she rest in peace in heaven. You'll always have her inside yourself, the person you are today she is definitely part of it. Treasure that Bobby. (the Voigtländer is simply fantastic, with such a rendition and subject separation and plenty of character).
I'm sorry to hear about the passing of your Mother, Bobby. My heartfelt condolences to you and your family. Thank you for the content, and inspiration to one day visit the beautiful city of Singapore.
Condolences to you Bobby, it's different when you lose your mother. My mom passed away February of last year. Hang in there my friend. You're a great reviewer, I enjoy your channel a lot.
My condolences to you Bobbi. I have 2 F Mount Voigtlander lens that I held on to, the 40 f/1.2 and 58 f/1.4, used them with the FTZ adapter and like the manual feel. Got them for my Df as I loved using all manual lens with that body, takes me back to the old days of doing everything manually. Will have to break them out once I get the Z8.
Sorry for your loss. I often find solace in a piece of glass and the way it can remind me of how the world looked to a particular person or during a particular time in my life. As for this lens, I can’t say there’s too much about it that I don’t see in the Fuji 1.0 50mm or the new 56. But I’m in APsC world and confident I can make it as a pro with apsc until i have occasion to write off a hasselblad or GFX someday in the sky. For full frame I know it can be much finer grains of difference, especially in bokeh of 50’s.
😔RIP, I send you all the love, because I know how you feel. I like the lens, I'm on GFX and I hope they will make medium format ones for the GF mount in the future. I love the GF 80mm 1.7, it's kind of the same type of lens, with vintage character, but this is the only one I have in this category.
You can’t shorten the adapter, but you can make it slimmer. When I use a manual focus lens on the Zf I use a sleek adapter from K&F Concept, when I use an AF lens I use the FTZ2. I like the new CV 55mm, but I already have the CV 58mm 1.4 and 50mm 1.2 AIS, so it is not highest on the list to add this one. Looking seriously at the CV 90mm 2.8 APO though.
I got a copy, received it and sent it back the next day. At f2.8 it's not even sharp in the corners and the bokeh is a little nervous in my opinion (greenish fringe of bokeh spheres with very pronounced edges). I want my lenses to be sharp and have a nice bokeh. And if that's not possible, they should at least either have nice bokeh or be razor sharp, but this lens isn't sharp wide open, nor does it have nice bokeh. I know that Voigtlander lenses can be much better. Examples are the 50mm f1.2 Nokton or the 50mm f2.0 Apo Lanthar for Sony E-Mount. I love these lenses. The 50mm f1.2 Nokton has beautiful bokeh (so I don't care that it's not that sharp wide open) and the 50mm f2.0 doesn't have the prettiest bokeh, but it's razor sharp at any aperture and in the corners of the frame. Great lenses! But the 55mm f1.2 has none of that. It feels and looks like a 70's lens (which is fine), but also renders like a 70's lens (which isn't that great in my opinion). I can find a $100 vintage lens with this rendering,
@@btonelli Nah. Doesn't have to be "modern", just beautiful. For example my Minolta 58mm f1.2 has a beautiful vintage rendering and (starting from f2.0) a very nice (if not legendary) bokeh.
Sorry about your mothers passing, I dread that day as mine is her 80’s. Btw Voigtlander has had electronic contacts on their F mount lenses for about 10 years, the only difference here is that it’s on a f1.2 lens for the first time in F mount, largely made possible by the contacts being on the outside rather than partially obstructing the rear element.
First off, condolences to you and your family. Second, I love the character of this lens, and I have a theory about this lens, I compared the optical formula that was shared on this lens to the Tomioka 55/1.2, and they are very similar, one element is a smidgen different shape and thickness. So, I suspect that this is based off on his old design, which kind of makes sense, since he was the one that started Cosina, who owns Voigtländer.
Condolences, Bobby, on your mom's passing. 🙏 Never easy; always a bit surreal. Cheers for soldiering forward - these new Voigtländers are impressive. I'm looking forward to someone trying the new 50mm f/1.0 Nokton Aspherical lens with native Z mount on a Z8 body. Thinking that would make a great street combo for walking around.
Nice review! Sorry about your mom man :( -PD P.S. - nobody can make a shorter adapter for F mount to Z mount - that length is the literal difference in the flange distance and must be exactly this length for the F mount lenses to properly project onto the image sensor.
@@btonelli True - only cause that used to be the body width with the mirror box. The Z mount is really revolutionary - Nikon will continue to excel with lens design that are unsurpassed by others due to this exceptional mount - one of the few negatives is that the adapter from F mount consequently appears bulky - but I have to say it works exceptionally well - the F mount glass that I still use in addition to all my Z glass, work better than they ever did on DSLR - lenses like the 200 f/2, 105 1.4 E, 58 1.4 G and 28 1.4 E are all even better now with no IQ loss at all and with the benefit of 3 axis IBIS and focusing points across 90% of the frame. With the Z 8 its a very good time to be a Nikon shooter! Love the channel BTW - going to subscribe - honestly I thought I already was - must have been with my other account :) -PD
@@btonelli the distance between the convergence point and the sensor is constant for that mount, it has nothing to do with the technology used but with the optics, cheers
I have the Nikon AI version of this lens and I am really really curious of how they compare... Because the optical formula is a tad bit different. Please talk me out of buying this lens
Manual focus on a digital reflex is plain slow and inaccurate. Leica is 2 sec. AF on Nikon is hard sec. Tried all the tricks, zoom function, arrows, live view, etc. Zoom is accurate but slow.Use Leica glass on Z6 2. Nice pics if subject does not move.
You didn't really talk much at all about what makes this 'special' except to say it's just like the Nikkor 50/1.2, which I think is unlikely. I know you only had 24hrs with it but pretty much everything you listed was covered in the spec sheets release by voightlander in Feb. Have you used the 58/1.4? How about the Nikkor 55/1.2? If so, how do they compare? I see some other commenters talking about how they love the rendering of this lens, which is strange to me because pretty much nobody has seen proper output from it. Even your '24 hours' with the lens only produced what, 3 or 4 shots? This video is way premature.
Hi. Thanks for watching. What makes this special is the electronic contacts to the lens which allows it to be used on more modern cameras along with the size for and some may say the optics as the prefer the look of this lens. I have tried the 58 1.4 it not the 55 1.2 however had used the 58 Noct (original) and also the 50 1.4 G lens. Like I said, it renders like the 50 1.2ais There were more than 3 to 4 shots that give an idea how the lens renders. Throughout the video I show images and compare them. Perhaps you were looking for more, and I’m sure others will produce more videos on it in time, but I wanted to give an informative first impression of the lens to give buyers an idea what this is about.
@@btonelli Hey Bobby, thanks for taking the time to reply and please accept my apologies for coming off overly negative. I should reflect on that a bit if I'm honest. I should have known by the runtime of the video and the date it was released that it would not and could not be a comprehensive review. I do appreciate you putting this out as early as you have as I have been desperate for any info on this lens since its announcement. I look forward to further thoughts on this lens (if you decide to pick one up!) when you've had some quality time with it. Take care :)
@@deeteeohbee6794 no prob. I understand your points and I also wish I had more time for this review. I was given 24 hours which is hard to really get to know a lens. For me personally I will pass on this because I have the 50 1.2 and I don’t really need the electronic contacts for a manual lens. My Nikon Film cameras don’t have electronic contacts and if I adapt the lens I’m fine with manual adjustments. But there will be some that find this interesting and valuable so those points I try to consider in the video. Hope this helps
@@btonelli Personally I have more ~50s than I care to admit including the voight 58/1.4 and ai-converted Nikkor 55/1.2 so I've been curious to see how this new lens stacks up. Looking at my shelf of 50s I know I'll be buying this even if I tell myself I don't need it. Thanks again for turning me and my attitude around with your thoughtful reply. I've subbed and will pop in from time to time to see what your channel is up to. Wishing you the best.
@@deeteeohbee6794 no prob. I love the 50mm focal length as well! It’s my go to for any camera system I have. I’m sure it’s one you will enjoy having especially if you have a number of good Nikkor 50’s
my condolences Bobby, take all the time you need to get through these hard times. We all appreciate you immensely
Thanks for the kind words 🙏🙏
Heartfelt condolences ❤🤗🙏 Prayers for your mother's soul as well as your family 🙏
I have been watching your reviews since long even when you were doing it for other channels. You have always been doing a fantastic job. Keep going.👏All the very best 👍
Thank you for the condolences and kind words. Really appreciate the support
Please, do take time for yourself. You don´t owe a second to anyone here. Peace will find you.
Thanks. I’m doing better now 😊
I'm very sorry to hear about your loss Bobby, may she rest in peace in heaven. You'll always have her inside yourself, the person you are today she is definitely part of it. Treasure that Bobby. (the Voigtländer is simply fantastic, with such a rendition and subject separation and plenty of character).
Thanks Enrico. I feel the same way as you described. As for the lens yes it’s unique for sure
I'm sorry to hear about the passing of your Mother, Bobby. My heartfelt condolences to you and your family. Thank you for the content, and inspiration to one day visit the beautiful city of Singapore.
Thanks Gary 🙏🙏
Condolences to you Bobby, it's different when you lose your mother. My mom passed away February of last year. Hang in there my friend. You're a great reviewer, I enjoy your channel a lot.
Thank you Kenneth much appreciated
Condolences, sorry for your loss.
I appreciate your videos a lot.
Thanks. Really appreciate that
Thanks for the review. Sorry for your loss. I wish you peace and happiness.
Thank you 🙏
Stay strong my friend.
Nice to have you back
Thank you 🙏
I am so sorry to hear about your recent loss. May she rest in peace. My heartfelt condolences to you and your family.
Thank you 🙏
My condolences to you Bobbi. I have 2 F Mount Voigtlander lens that I held on to, the 40 f/1.2 and 58 f/1.4, used them with the FTZ adapter and like the manual feel. Got them for my Df as I loved using all manual lens with that body, takes me back to the old days of doing everything manually. Will have to break them out once I get the Z8.
Thank you for the condolences 🙏
Yes will do well on the Z8 for sure.
Deepest condolences on your loss. May her memory be a blessing.
Thank you 🙏
Sorry for your loss. I often find solace in a piece of glass and the way it can remind me of how the world looked to a particular person or during a particular time in my life.
As for this lens, I can’t say there’s too much about it that I don’t see in the Fuji 1.0 50mm or the new 56.
But I’m in APsC world and confident I can make it as a pro with apsc until i have occasion to write off a hasselblad or GFX someday in the sky. For full frame I know it can be much finer grains of difference, especially in bokeh of 50’s.
Thank you for the kind words.
Yes agree, and now with the great glass and performance boosts in APS-C cameras can definitely do pro work
Excellent review. Sorry for your loss.
Thanks for watching and thank you 🙏
😔RIP, I send you all the love, because I know how you feel.
I like the lens, I'm on GFX and I hope they will make medium format ones for the GF mount in the future. I love the GF 80mm 1.7, it's kind of the same type of lens, with vintage character, but this is the only one I have in this category.
Thank you for the condolences.
Not sure if Voigtländer will get into the MF market but would be great if they did
hello from Malaysia thanks for this review and im sorry to hear for your loss, may she find peace❤
Thank you for your condolences and thanks for watching the video
You can’t shorten the adapter, but you can make it slimmer.
When I use a manual focus lens on the Zf I use a sleek adapter from K&F Concept, when I use an AF lens I use the FTZ2.
I like the new CV 55mm, but I already have the CV 58mm 1.4 and 50mm 1.2 AIS, so it is not highest on the list to add this one.
Looking seriously at the CV 90mm 2.8 APO though.
The 90 is very nice. Yes there are slimmer ones that match the look of the Zf nicely
A shorter adapter would not work - only without infinity focus.
Great video 📸😊
Thanks for watching
I got a copy, received it and sent it back the next day. At f2.8 it's not even sharp in the corners and the bokeh is a little nervous in my opinion (greenish fringe of bokeh spheres with very pronounced edges). I want my lenses to be sharp and have a nice bokeh. And if that's not possible, they should at least either have nice bokeh or be razor sharp, but this lens isn't sharp wide open, nor does it have nice bokeh.
I know that Voigtlander lenses can be much better. Examples are the 50mm f1.2 Nokton or the 50mm f2.0 Apo Lanthar for Sony E-Mount. I love these lenses. The 50mm f1.2 Nokton has beautiful bokeh (so I don't care that it's not that sharp wide open) and the 50mm f2.0 doesn't have the prettiest bokeh, but it's razor sharp at any aperture and in the corners of the frame. Great lenses! But the 55mm f1.2 has none of that. It feels and looks like a 70's lens (which is fine), but also renders like a 70's lens (which isn't that great in my opinion). I can find a $100 vintage lens with this rendering,
This is why I mentioned it renders like the 50 1.2. If one wants more modern rendering then this won’t be the lens for them
@@btonelli Nah. Doesn't have to be "modern", just beautiful. For example my Minolta 58mm f1.2 has a beautiful vintage rendering and (starting from f2.0) a very nice (if not legendary) bokeh.
@@btonelli A comparison with the Voightländer 58 1.4 would have been interesting as well. People tend to rave about the rendering of that one
Sorry about your mothers passing, I dread that day as mine is her 80’s.
Btw Voigtlander has had electronic contacts on their F mount lenses for about 10 years, the only difference here is that it’s on a f1.2 lens for the first time in F mount, largely made possible by the contacts being on the outside rather than partially obstructing the rear element.
Consider the Voigt 58mm f1.4
Thanks for the kind words. Thanks for the info. This was something that was related by Voigtlander on the electronic contacts so I went with that.
First off, condolences to you and your family. Second, I love the character of this lens, and I have a theory about this lens, I compared the optical formula that was shared on this lens to the Tomioka 55/1.2, and they are very similar, one element is a smidgen different shape and thickness. So, I suspect that this is based off on his old design, which kind of makes sense, since he was the one that started Cosina, who owns Voigtländer.
Thanks for the condolences.
You could actually be right. I haven’t tried that lens but does make sense.
My condolences for your loss. Great content. Have you try the Nikon 55mm f1.2?
Thank you. I tried briefly but not long enough to give full opinions on
Condolences, Bobby, on your mom's passing. 🙏 Never easy; always a bit surreal.
Cheers for soldiering forward - these new Voigtländers are impressive. I'm looking forward to someone trying the new 50mm f/1.0 Nokton Aspherical lens with native Z mount on a Z8 body. Thinking that would make a great street combo for walking around.
Thanks Robert.
I’ll get the Z8 soon for more long term coverage so will try that out
Deepest condolonces, Bobby. Are you in Singapore now?
Thanks. Yes I am. But actually on a short break in Kyoto
Nice review! Sorry about your mom man :(
-PD
P.S. - nobody can make a shorter adapter for F mount to Z mount - that length is the literal difference in the flange distance and must be exactly this length for the F mount lenses to properly project onto the image sensor.
Thanks for watching and for the condolences.
Yeah it’s unfortunate as the adapter is on the larger size
@@btonelli True - only cause that used to be the body width with the mirror box. The Z mount is really revolutionary - Nikon will continue to excel with lens design that are unsurpassed by others due to this exceptional mount - one of the few negatives is that the adapter from F mount consequently appears bulky - but I have to say it works exceptionally well - the F mount glass that I still use in addition to all my Z glass, work better than they ever did on DSLR - lenses like the 200 f/2, 105 1.4 E, 58 1.4 G and 28 1.4 E are all even better now with no IQ loss at all and with the benefit of 3 axis IBIS and focusing points across 90% of the frame.
With the Z 8 its a very good time to be a Nikon shooter!
Love the channel BTW - going to subscribe - honestly I thought I already was - must have been with my other account :)
-PD
Interesting. How is this compare to the Voigtlander 58mm f1.4?
Slightly better corrected
a more compact adapter :) it's length is determined by the design, it is not a matter of technology; thanks for the review
Yes would love a more compact one. I’m seeing them come out on various different platforms just without electronic connectors
@@btonelli the distance between the convergence point and the sensor is constant for that mount, it has nothing to do with the technology used but with the optics, cheers
Sorry for your loss
Thank you 🙏
Sending you condolences! Great review!
Thank you 🙏
Hows the lens compare with ais 50/1.2?
Hi. If you watch the video I talk about that in depth
Have you tried it on the GFX?
No I haven’t. Tried it on mainly full frame cameras right now
I have the Nikon AI version of this lens and I am really really curious of how they compare... Because the optical formula is a tad bit different. Please talk me out of buying this lens
I think if you have a good copy of the 55 and don’t need electronic contacts then no need to get it
I don't think it's possible to make a more compact adapter.
Yeah I thought so as well. One can only hope
I wish you all soul peace , take your time to heal
Thank you 🙏
a pity Zfc is not full frame 😢
Same
Please accept my deepest condolences… been😢 there
Thank you. My condolences to you as well
Manual focus on a digital reflex is plain slow and inaccurate. Leica is 2 sec. AF on Nikon is hard sec. Tried all the tricks, zoom function, arrows, live view, etc. Zoom is accurate but slow.Use Leica glass on Z6 2. Nice pics if subject does not move.
Yes just depends on the camera and lens combo.
May peace be with you and your mom.
Thank you 🙏
You didn't really talk much at all about what makes this 'special' except to say it's just like the Nikkor 50/1.2, which I think is unlikely. I know you only had 24hrs with it but pretty much everything you listed was covered in the spec sheets release by voightlander in Feb. Have you used the 58/1.4? How about the Nikkor 55/1.2? If so, how do they compare? I see some other commenters talking about how they love the rendering of this lens, which is strange to me because pretty much nobody has seen proper output from it. Even your '24 hours' with the lens only produced what, 3 or 4 shots? This video is way premature.
Hi. Thanks for watching. What makes this special is the electronic contacts to the lens which allows it to be used on more modern cameras along with the size for and some may say the optics as the prefer the look of this lens.
I have tried the 58 1.4 it not the 55 1.2 however had used the 58 Noct (original) and also the 50 1.4 G lens. Like I said, it renders like the 50 1.2ais
There were more than 3 to 4 shots that give an idea how the lens renders. Throughout the video I show images and compare them. Perhaps you were looking for more, and I’m sure others will produce more videos on it in time, but I wanted to give an informative first impression of the lens to give buyers an idea what this is about.
@@btonelli Hey Bobby, thanks for taking the time to reply and please accept my apologies for coming off overly negative. I should reflect on that a bit if I'm honest.
I should have known by the runtime of the video and the date it was released that it would not and could not be a comprehensive review. I do appreciate you putting this out as early as you have as I have been desperate for any info on this lens since its announcement. I look forward to further thoughts on this lens (if you decide to pick one up!) when you've had some quality time with it.
Take care :)
@@deeteeohbee6794 no prob. I understand your points and I also wish I had more time for this review. I was given 24 hours which is hard to really get to know a lens.
For me personally I will pass on this because I have the 50 1.2 and I don’t really need the electronic contacts for a manual lens. My Nikon Film cameras don’t have electronic contacts and if I adapt the lens I’m fine with manual adjustments.
But there will be some that find this interesting and valuable so those points I try to consider in the video. Hope this helps
@@btonelli Personally I have more ~50s than I care to admit including the voight 58/1.4 and ai-converted Nikkor 55/1.2 so I've been curious to see how this new lens stacks up. Looking at my shelf of 50s I know I'll be buying this even if I tell myself I don't need it. Thanks again for turning me and my attitude around with your thoughtful reply. I've subbed and will pop in from time to time to see what your channel is up to. Wishing you the best.
@@deeteeohbee6794 no prob. I love the 50mm focal length as well! It’s my go to for any camera system I have. I’m sure it’s one you will enjoy having especially if you have a number of good Nikkor 50’s
sorry about your mom sad news
Thank you 🙏