The Genius Storytelling of Sonic 3 & Knuckles

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  • @madcat789
    @madcat789 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +59

    Do not forget the three alternate endings that are based on your choices: By ignoring or failng to recollect the Chaos Emeralds, Sonic is unable to capture the Master Emerald - leaving it floating in space. He is not strong enough, and it is lost forever, thus Angel Island remains in the sea. If he collects just the Chaos Emeralds, then Super Sonic will be strong enough to take the Master Emerald with him. However, the Master Emerald has not attained its full power by attuning to the full strength of the Chaos Emeralds, and it always left me with doubt that the Master Emerald could hold Angel Island up without it, thus it could fall on its own or be even more vulnerable to being taken.
    But, if he collects the Chaos Emeralds, and the Hyper Emeralds, then the Master Emerald will be fully attuned and empowered by the Emeralds, and thus will see Angel Island thrive thanks to the power of the Master Emerald. Truly this game is a work of art.

    • @ColeTheFactGuy
      @ColeTheFactGuy  24 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      I didn't even really think about that! I think that just the normal emeralds would still be enough, but what I like to think is the reason the super emeralds came into being is because the Master Emerald basically knows what's happening and gives the power required of the situation. That's why when presented with the chaos emeralds, it powers them up further. Because in that situation it's guardian had turned, so it needed to bestow power enough to guard itself. The master Emerald itself can lift the island, it was just a matter of getting someone to bring it back. Sonic can't alone, so he needs the chaos emeralds, and though that's enough, the super emeralds guarantee it's safety

    • @TheHeroExodus
      @TheHeroExodus 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I always saw the chaos emeralds as shards of the super emeralds, while angel island floated without them, the dull super emeralds werent strong enough to recover from the removal of the master emerald.
      Chaos emeralds fuse with super emeralds, give em that charge and back to the sky it goes.
      I didnt like that sonic adventure turned everything variable sized, i liked the hidden palace with these huge emeralds... now everything fits in your pocket, even if you dont have pockets

  • @kingkazma3246
    @kingkazma3246 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    I like how Knuckles punching the Emerald out of someone was incorporated in Sonic Movie 2! Must be some hidden Echidna Tribe technique!

  • @Steven-wn6np
    @Steven-wn6np 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    That thumbnail is comedy gold

    • @ColeTheFactGuy
      @ColeTheFactGuy  24 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      My thumbnails tend to be me and my artist (My partner) thinking about what would make us laugh most

    • @BadBame962
      @BadBame962 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      “We did it, Tails! We saved Angel Island!”

  • @Raymi20-
    @Raymi20- 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    "It's where the exit of hydro𝘀ity led us"
    -TH-cam's auto captions

    • @ColeTheFactGuy
      @ColeTheFactGuy  24 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Eh. I'll give them that one it's how it sounds

    • @Raymi20-
      @Raymi20- 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@ColeTheFactGuy "Hydrocity" resembles scientific terms, which is inconvenienced when talking about a level in a sonic game, so I would prefer going with "Hydro City" while still writing it as Hydrocity (because it's written that way in sonic 3)

    • @ColeTheFactGuy
      @ColeTheFactGuy  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah but saying it like I do is more fun

    • @C_H_1957
      @C_H_1957 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Raymi20- And Sega prefers “Hydro City” too!

  • @harryenchiladas8826
    @harryenchiladas8826 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    7:37 True Answer: Brad Buxer wanted to put "Hard Times" in the game, and when it was his turn to do Act 2, like in all the songs he wrote, he removed instruments.
    I agree with everything else in this video

  • @name_and_addresswith_held8905
    @name_and_addresswith_held8905 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    Yooooo it's Cole, the Fact Guy! I hope they have some interesting facts!

  • @AbsnormalCoolest
    @AbsnormalCoolest 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    something you forgot to mention is the mural on the wall pf hidden palace depicting what appears to be super sonic battling a giant robotnik holding the master emerald, representing doomsday zone

    • @ColeTheFactGuy
      @ColeTheFactGuy  20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Oh I totally forgot about that. I think it's cool. I like the idea of the master Emerald knowing this is the time predicted and creating the super emeralds in response

  • @Emery_Pallas
    @Emery_Pallas 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    Good video, I feel Sonic CD also does its story very seamlessly (if not as seamlessly), Outside of the cutscenes bookending the game and the few in game sequences, most of the games narrative is told in the artistic direction and level design of the zones both in their timeline variants and in their order (So that eggman's influence over the zone becomes more and more apparent until your in the fully Eggman controlled zones.
    Oddly enough I think the classic Sonic games always wanted a progressive narrative of sorts (more on the CD vein, where level progression follows a theme), Sonic 1's levels were designed to be more industrialised as the game progresses (with Nature in Green Hill, followed by Overtaken Ruins in Labyrinth and Marble, and modernity with Star Light and Spring Yard before Scrap Brain Zone, also the 8-bit version where progression is marked with upward movement), and Sonic 2 famously had a time travel plot where the game's zones would be split four ways (Now, Past, Now 2 and Future). In that way, I think Sonic 3 was them realising something they wanted to for a while (even changing the progression to account for cutting Flying Battery Zone from Sonic 3)

  • @thisisasupersayin376
    @thisisasupersayin376 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Advanced detail that I fucking love pointing out: Even the flow of time makes sense. You can track the game taking place over 3 days.
    Angel Island- Day
    Marble Garden- Evening, transitions to night at the end
    Carnival Night- Night
    Ice Cap- Early morning, sky gets lighter at the end of act 1
    Launch Base- Late morning
    Mushroom Hill and Flying Battery- Afternoon
    Sandopolis 1- Sunset
    Lava Reef- Presumably night
    Sky Sanctuary- Day

  • @zLnix
    @zLnix 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    do it, i dare you
    drink the glue

  • @Dragonmist19X
    @Dragonmist19X 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Keep doing you on these videos. Its so cool just having no idea what to expect next.

    • @ColeTheFactGuy
      @ColeTheFactGuy  24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That means a lot. I've always worried that all of these different subjects could alienate people

  • @RondoOfBloodX
    @RondoOfBloodX 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Awesome video. BTW Sonic 3 was supposed to be even MORE cohesive. Originally Flying Battery was supposed to come after Carnival Night. Afterwards you would use the door from FB as the Snowboard in Ice Cap.

    • @yourehereforthatarentyou
      @yourehereforthatarentyou 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      the fanhack, sonic 3 complete, has an option to play the game with this level order

  • @just_sonic
    @just_sonic 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    THIS
    its always the underrated youtubers with the good videos i swear

    • @ColeTheFactGuy
      @ColeTheFactGuy  24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Never considered myself underrated but I appreciate it!

    • @just_sonic
      @just_sonic 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@ColeTheFactGuy sorry, its gen cus i've NEVER seen your channel ever, considering the views and the subs at the time of me writing the og comment, i just assumed.

  • @jamesthepotato8254
    @jamesthepotato8254 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I don’t know how this video does not have like 10k views

  • @tabbiya9174
    @tabbiya9174 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Another great video from the man who only tells facts

  • @carmatic
    @carmatic 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    hmm, this is the first time I relate S3&K to Half Life , which is the gold standard for pure diagetic storytelling...

    • @ColeTheFactGuy
      @ColeTheFactGuy  15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They're basically the same game if you think about it

  • @CrazyGamer19851
    @CrazyGamer19851 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    That thumbnail😂

  • @user-tz4jp6ng9r
    @user-tz4jp6ng9r 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ngl seeing knuckles for the first time ever I was genuinely like "WHO THE FUCK IS THIS GUY?!?!?!?"

  • @TheGameDomeGuy
    @TheGameDomeGuy 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    shit dood you truly be spitting facts

  • @loquendero-vi5sp
    @loquendero-vi5sp 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    oh yeah sonic do really know how to handle the females

  • @evan2902
    @evan2902 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Pantomime storytelling is great. I think my love for that came from this and the spy vs spy comics from mad magazine. Rocket Knight Adventures also does a good job of contexualizing why you're where you are and why you are where you're going in between levels albeit not nearly as good as Sonic 3k did it.

  • @ChaseyMcChaseyHead
    @ChaseyMcChaseyHead 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yall a chad hydrohcity guy or goofy hydro city guy

    • @ColeTheFactGuy
      @ColeTheFactGuy  8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We are living in fucking HYDROCITY baby.

  • @samiiscool8181
    @samiiscool8181 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    You deserve more recognition ❤

  • @Platinum-gr7zo
    @Platinum-gr7zo 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Literally me

  • @CNA_Productions-SM
    @CNA_Productions-SM 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Well said

  • @rexplleee
    @rexplleee 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    wow youre so special

  • @ThrackerZ0d
    @ThrackerZ0d 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hi Cole

  • @TheLifeOfPhiltsa
    @TheLifeOfPhiltsa 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ok now explain 2p levels…

  • @braydengabearias-ch5iq
    @braydengabearias-ch5iq 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hey, we got the same opinion abt sonic 3, sonic 3's my fav part of the trilogy

  • @Doxthefox
    @Doxthefox 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    Your opinion is not valid for not liking frontiers

    • @FracturedMists
      @FracturedMists 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You suck in general as a person for not respecting another person’s opinion.

    • @OliverKlaus-fs7mp
      @OliverKlaus-fs7mp 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      And saying "hyrdrahsity" instead of hydro-city

    • @TEC-XX_619
      @TEC-XX_619 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Is your name a command?

    • @Doxthefox
      @Doxthefox 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@TEC-XX_619 yes it is a cheat code for cookies

    • @gloocey
      @gloocey 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Sonic frontiers sucks 😭

  • @deadstrider
    @deadstrider 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I like what they're trying to do, but it was just so dumb to me. Knuckles punching the emeralds out of Sonic. Nonsense. Sonic stands idly by as Knuckles blows the bridge out from under him. Nonsense. And those are just the first two

    • @Skibster-w9l
      @Skibster-w9l 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The official reason for Knuckles being able to do this is that he caught Sonic off guard. I don’t know about everything else though.

    • @deadstrider
      @deadstrider 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Skibster-w9l his super form should make him untouchable to Knuckles

    • @Squiggy_95
      @Squiggy_95 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I wonder if Sonic has a patch like a kangaroo under his tan chest spot thing

  • @originalw01theonlyone
    @originalw01theonlyone 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Marriage is a horrible thing

  • @UtSonicAM_NavySketcher
    @UtSonicAM_NavySketcher 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This game is mid af in my opinion

  • @MidiMail
    @MidiMail 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Sonic 3 is overrated stop calling it a masterpiece

    • @eXtra_Quill_spindrift
      @eXtra_Quill_spindrift 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

      Me when I lie

    • @SewerYum
      @SewerYum 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I was good for what it did. I think it did all it could with its limitation

    • @ColeTheFactGuy
      @ColeTheFactGuy  24 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

      Ok but can I call it a masterpiece like, 3 more times per day. Like give me time to change instead of going cold turkey

    • @chaoticmeep
      @chaoticmeep 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      How it feels when I spread misinformation on the internet

    • @UKBallYT
      @UKBallYT 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I like the game but it is overrated