4 Ways 2001: A Space Odyssey Was a Visual-Effects Pioneer

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  • @vwlssnvwls3262
    @vwlssnvwls3262 5 ปีที่แล้ว +239

    I think actual, physical effects are far more impressive and fun to watch then CGI. CGI is nice and can do a lot, but in the end you know it is computer generated and thus not as impressive. That jogging scene in 2001 is still amazing to this day.

    • @applescruff1969
      @applescruff1969 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      To me, they both look best when used together. As an example, Watch Jurassic Park.

    • @tilesetter1953
      @tilesetter1953 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I totally agree with you (weird name).

    • @anchorpoint3631
      @anchorpoint3631 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tilesetter1953 lmao

    • @phill6859
      @phill6859 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think computer graphics are so advanced now that you can watch a movie and suspend belief without getting caught up in CGI.
      When watching the original Star wars movie, the lighting passes were often misaligned and moving about. That is pretty distracting too (though I like it for nostalgia).

  • @cjboffoli
    @cjboffoli 6 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Premiere of 2001: April 1968. Neil Armstrong setting foot on the moon: July 1969.

  • @jonfitz8372
    @jonfitz8372 6 ปีที่แล้ว +342

    These are not VFX. Visual effects are done in post-production. These are optical and Special Effects (SFX).

    • @FirstnameLastname-zh9hd
      @FirstnameLastname-zh9hd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Nobody cares

    • @Woodsaras
      @Woodsaras 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@FirstnameLastname-zh9hd i do

    • @vishnur9852
      @vishnur9852 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@FirstnameLastname-zh9hd I do

    • @FirstnameLastname-zh9hd
      @FirstnameLastname-zh9hd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@vishnur9852 I stand corrected

    • @Novafittt
      @Novafittt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Ah, theres that person in the youtube comments with the need to expell their inner sadnes

  • @josephlopez7640
    @josephlopez7640 6 ปีที่แล้ว +157

    Neil Armstrong landed on the moon in 1969 not 1968

    • @emilycunningham8125
      @emilycunningham8125 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      landed on set you mean, lol :-P i am just razzing you but i am slightly serious

    • @melsoro7311
      @melsoro7311 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@hispace7657 I don't think anyone should be called retarded for speculation.

    • @juantsu2000
      @juantsu2000 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@melsoro7311 I speculate that if I jump from the tallest building in the world I will fly...Am I not a retarded???

    • @melsoro7311
      @melsoro7311 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@juantsu2000 no just delusional.

    • @juantsu2000
      @juantsu2000 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@melsoro7311 The same can be said for people that think the moon landing was a hoax.

  • @Ocrilat
    @Ocrilat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    The film raised the bar for sci-fi special effects by a factor of a million, and turned the Sci-Fi genre from cheesy, cheap kid's garbage to sophisticated and respected overnight. It inspired a generation of filmmakers to the possibilities of film.

    • @johnedwards1321
      @johnedwards1321 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Fantastic Voyage was a serious, high concept, high-production values project too.

    • @Ocrilat
      @Ocrilat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@johnedwards1321 Well, yes. But the special effects were very much along the lines of the current b-movie science fiction (no not impressive at all). It looks like a b-sci fi film with a budget. 2001 looks like what the future might actually look like, and it still holds up. Fantastic Voyage certainly didn't have any real impact on budding filmmakers at all, and had no impact on how science fiction films were seen (which is unfortunate, since I'm a big Isaac Asimov fan).
      2001 changed the sci-fi film from men in gorilla costumes and fishbowls on their heads capturing fainting women to a serious film genre. It inspired George Lucas, Steven Spielberg, Martin Scorsese, etc. It really did change filmmaking. Fantastic Voyage...didn't.

    • @johnedwards1321
      @johnedwards1321 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Ocrilat I agreed completly. I just think that FV is often overlooked. It's special effects don't hold up, clearly, but it was a bond concept and the Proteus was a very cool ship ( apparent from the paper maps instead of fancy computer read-outs). In fact, I think one of the genuinely brilliant moves in 2001 was the absence of knobs and dials, a merely relied on screens with colorful and stark letters and numbers as control mechanisms which keep it fully up to date no matter what the most recent iterations of iPad's look like. The clean no-bullshit interiors truly sell the whole thing. Anyway, thanks. This was fun. Cheers, John

    • @JR-ju3kj
      @JR-ju3kj ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very well said! 2001: A Space Odyssey is a groundbreaking and revolutionary film in so many different ways and I agree with everything that you said! Yes, it raised the bar for sci-fi special effects, yes, it changed the Sci-Fi genre and made people take it seriously as a respected and sophisticated artform and yes, it inspired a generation of filmmakers! I would also say the movie also inspired future scientists, inventors, engineers, astronauts, technicians, doctors, authors, artists, and people in a variety of different career fields.
      I'm an aspiring author( and comic book writer and illustrator) and 2001 has been a big influence for the kinds of books and comic books that I want to write!

  • @geoff7058
    @geoff7058 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The glowing leopard eyes were an unexpected consequence of front projection, but Kubrick liked them so they stayed in the movie

  • @crash-symbols
    @crash-symbols 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That rotating set for 2001 is still one of the best.

  • @IvanRSaldias
    @IvanRSaldias 6 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    All this techniques were (at least) a decade old when Kubrik made 2001.
    Royal Weddings in 1951 used a rotative set
    Oskar Fischinger invented the technique used in Vertigo and 2001
    Projection techniques using mirrors were common in the 40s and 50s
    What i mean is that it's ok to try to make people aware of 2001 as an spectacular achievement of cinema history but you could just focus on other stuff rather than technical because is a great use of this techniques but not an innovative one.

    • @75midge
      @75midge 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      yep...Royal Wedding being a perfect example.

    • @stephaniemitchell8509
      @stephaniemitchell8509 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I've always wondered why rotating sets were needed for people that didn't need to appear being thrown to the side (as in the film examples shown). If they remained upright the entire time, it would have been easier to do nothing more than rotate the camera as they walked down a stationary corridor.

    • @loganburde2838
      @loganburde2838 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Other movies may have used these techniques before, but 2001 reinvented those techniques in more ways than any other film.

    • @HVACSoldier
      @HVACSoldier 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stephaniemitchell8509 But, the rotating corridor was actually TWO rotating corridors. Only one of the corridors rotated at a given time.
      th-cam.com/video/-RGGK2uyJOw/w-d-xo.html

  • @whitesimurgh6363
    @whitesimurgh6363 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Nolan really paying homage to Kubrick!

  • @mrnemo204
    @mrnemo204 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    0:36, No that was a year and 3 months before the moon landing. How wasn't this error picked up during editing?

    • @mrrandom1265
      @mrrandom1265 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because it was edited by idiots

    • @MagisterHamid
      @MagisterHamid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Poor editing or poor knowledge, 🤫

  • @rayd408
    @rayd408 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The planets and spaceships in this movie looks pretty real. Just wanted this on MAX and I’m surprised how clear the movie is compared to even movies from the 90s.

    • @manofocean
      @manofocean 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the clarity of image is just a result of the film being rescanned in 2018 for the 50th anniversary; most film, if in good quality, is capable of being scanned to 4k

    • @BlueGreyWolf
      @BlueGreyWolf 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@manofocean - I swear I read a few years ago someone on the TH-cam comment section mentioning that they filmed with high-quality film strips at the time of filming. I'm not sure how true that is, but I just watched this film in 4K for the first time and it still looks absolutely great! It would be great to see it on the big screen like the Imax theater besides my rudimentary 4K TV.

  • @jimturning8392
    @jimturning8392 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    We still hadn't pioneered 100% real looking CGI

    • @SuperScaryMonkey
      @SuperScaryMonkey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There’s some thats almost seem less

    • @jisellesharmaignequintao5804
      @jisellesharmaignequintao5804 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      War for the Planet of the Apes, CGI Apes, Horses, Mountains, Avalanche, some environments, etc. looked actually real...

    • @JR-ju3kj
      @JR-ju3kj ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There was no CGI when 2001 was made back in the 1960s. That kind of technology simply didn't exist back then, so they made do with what they had and what was available to them and I have to say how impressed I am by how well to this day, well over 50 years later, the movie still holds up and looks better than some movies being made now! Now that in of itself is an achievement when nearly 60 years later, you can say that your film still holds up! 2001 really was ahead of it's time!

    • @alexanderharris8310
      @alexanderharris8310 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@JR-ju3kjthere was CGI but it was rudimentary by today's standards

    • @anchorpoint3631
      @anchorpoint3631 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JR-ju3kj maybe there was cgi back then but the big companies didn't want to tell us

  • @GuamCruiseA.K.A.HarryKim
    @GuamCruiseA.K.A.HarryKim 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    thani you for this, your work is much appreciated.

  • @NoahSpurrier
    @NoahSpurrier 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The rotating set was used before. Fred Astaire did a dance on the ceiling in “Royal Wedding” using a similar technique.

  • @johnedwards1321
    @johnedwards1321 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    2001 is a beautiful movie but none of the techniques listed here were brand new.
    Rotating sets were built for:
    "Dancing on the Ceiling" (Fred Astair, 1951) and earlier for "The Boat" (Eddie Cline, Buster Keaton, 1921) and even earlier for "When the Clouds Roll By" (Victor Fleming, 1919).
    The Slit Scan was invented in 1843 and called the "Ellipsen dagherrotype" and used for cool psychedelic stuff in the the experimental film "Catalog" in 1961 by John and his James Whitney and their film "Lapis" (1966).
    2001 didn't use what we call motion control. They used an animation stand, and motorized camera mounts which is not exactly "motion control".
    "King Kong" (1933) used miniature front projection along with every other thing they could think of.
    Not that 2001 isn't really cool and all...

  • @maddalonefarms
    @maddalonefarms 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    0:11 that’s from Star Wars

  • @lukpro
    @lukpro 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    are you kiding me?? 1:43 this is an goddamn tie-x1 from star wars

  • @NoNameNo.5
    @NoNameNo.5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The movie came out in 68, Neil Armstrong step foot on the moon in 1969

  • @souradeepmitra4453
    @souradeepmitra4453 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Best movie of all time

  • @raymondstpaul4913
    @raymondstpaul4913 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The 2001 space station is so simplistic in concept I keep wondering why [other than obvious cost etc] it hasn't been used even on a small scale. It makes no sense to me of how many decades has past we only have an expensive toy [International Space Station] erector station in low orbit.

    • @solracer66
      @solracer66 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There are videos that show how the human body can't handle small rotating space stations because it will confuse the inner ear too much and make one ill. So you need a larger structure, at least 300 meters or so in diameter, to overcome that. Oddly that is exactly the diameter of Space Station V in 2001...

    • @JR-ju3kj
      @JR-ju3kj ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I feel exactly the same way. A lot of people have said exactly the same thing. I don't know if NASA has ever given an official answer as to why they haven't ever even tried to build a rotating space station like the one in 2001 Honestly, I don't understand why NASA or a foreign government has never tried to build a rotating space station that simulates artificial gravity. Given how much money the space program costs and how much money countries have spent on space exploration( when we still can't get things straightened out and properly in order right here on this planet), I'm genuinely surprised and puzzled why NASA or anyone else hasn't done it or even TRIED to do it.

    • @ShortRound42
      @ShortRound42 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JR-ju3kj
      The actual problem in reality is size, money to fund it and right now research and experiments up there rely on a lack of gravity.
      If say the spacecraft is small, the faster it has to rotate which can make the astronauts disoriented, so if you're going to generate gravity safely it's got to be done with a very large spacecraft that spins very slowly.
      The bigger the disk, the slower you can rotate it.
      Also, the disorienting thing will happen if your ship or station has any windows in it.
      If a spacecraft's rotating portion were too small, residents would feel a huge difference in the force imposed on their heads and what they felt on their feet.
      They'd end up dizzy and lightheaded because blood would be drawn down, away from the brain.
      Right now there's no spacecraft on the drawing board big enough to do this. It would have to be a very large, larger than a football field.
      A true viable ship at that scale, a rotating spacecraft becomes one heck of an expense.
      For now, short-term space travel doesn't really need artificial gravity. In fact, most of the research done on ISS relies on the lack of gravity.
      And on a long-term mission, say, to Mars would need a big fuel-hungry spacecraft.

  • @yokoreia
    @yokoreia 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Hey amateurs, Mistake at 0:13, second clip from left is from Star Wars. Rotating stage was used before 2001 and camera wasn't motion control, it was just dolly shots while most ships were just still photos, scan and pan. stop misinforming viewers.

    • @katush8810
      @katush8810 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It still is motion control just not the one star wars use. He didn't say 2001 was the first to used rotating stages he just said it was "Mainstreamed" by the movie. I really can say this video is bad is just not clear at all. Ok, 2 year ago person.

  • @wildsmiley
    @wildsmiley 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Three months before Neil Armstrong landed on the moon (with Buzz Aldrin, way to forget him)? Try a year and three months.

  • @abandonedaccount9362
    @abandonedaccount9362 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:17 Desinformation The motion control, create in 1976 by John dykstra from ilm in star wars, on 2001, trumbull use the classic camera movement with front projection and miniature model

    • @katush8810
      @katush8810 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Star wars used it on large scale, motion control wasn't created in 1976. A simple google search wound of found that.

    • @semirecumbentoneYT
      @semirecumbentoneYT 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@katush8810 Star Wars pioneered motion control camera technique, created by ILM for that, pioneering new tech exactly like 2001. But 2001 did not have motion control cameras, they used camera movement (or spacecraft movement).

  • @colesmith4418
    @colesmith4418 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    These are not visual effects. Visual effects are done in post production. These are special effects, as they are all done practically on set

  • @its_master_Roshi_Fkrs
    @its_master_Roshi_Fkrs 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its a great great great movie that stood the test of time💙❤️

  • @gregrtodd
    @gregrtodd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Mate, April 1968 is NOT three months before Armstrong landed on the moon. It's 15 months. How could you not know the date of the greatest event in the entire history of mankind?

  • @aliensoup2420
    @aliensoup2420 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gene Kelly danced on the ceiling and walls of a set in 1951 "Royal Wedding".

  • @Johnny-qg5kn
    @Johnny-qg5kn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1:05 Stanley Kubrick was Christopher Nolan’s teacher I suppose.

    • @applescruff1969
      @applescruff1969 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Christopher Nolan is a talentless hack.

    • @Brandonhayhew
      @Brandonhayhew 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nolan tries his best but never will be like Kubrick a legend

    • @MrNo-dc2wp
      @MrNo-dc2wp 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@applescruff1969 Still a legend when compared to many CGI and actor's boot licking brats today

    • @JR-ju3kj
      @JR-ju3kj ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Brandonhayhew Christopher Nolan is a great director but Stanley Kubrick was and is in a class all by himself. I'm sure even Nolan himself would agree with that.

    • @JR-ju3kj
      @JR-ju3kj ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Like the director of The Exorcist, William Friedkin, said on the special features section for the 2001 Dvd, 2001 is the grandfather of pretty much every science fiction film that came after it( even whether or not the filmmakers know it, 2001 paved the way for them to be making Sci-Fi movies in space and to be taken seriously doing it). Stanley Kubrick was a lot of people's teacher and inspiration and I'm not even a filmmaker but I am an aspiring artist, author and comic book writer and 2001 was a big influence and inspiration for me, too!

  • @JamesOrlowski
    @JamesOrlowski 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't understand how in front projection shots, the background image doesn't project onto the actors themselves.

    • @sclogse1
      @sclogse1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The material used for reflecting the projected image (Scotchlite) back to the camera is insanely reflective. (micro beaded) But only at an exact angle. So precise placement of the camera is necessary. But once nailed, look out. I bought a piece of it in the 1980's to fool with. (shooting Super 8 ) The ratio of reflectivity is so high that the projected image does not register on the ape suits, Tapirs, jaguar, etc. But it was reflected by the rear of the jaguar's eyes. Scotchlite can be found now on strips on the jackets of highway workers, etc. They use it for responding to headlights, mostly. You've seen it. Imagine getting the giant scotchlite screen to be perfect for 2001.

  • @Bippy55
    @Bippy55 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Epic movie. I got it right away. And in 2024, how close are we to an AI HAL-9000 that will think humans are not trustworthy!

  • @ddespair
    @ddespair 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The African front projections and all scenes where you see the background with or without anything in the foreground were all still photos, so not technically “footage”.

  • @MagisterHamid
    @MagisterHamid 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How are the computer screens of such high resolution?

    • @semirecumbentoneYT
      @semirecumbentoneYT 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They were projected, video projection

    • @MagisterHamid
      @MagisterHamid ปีที่แล้ว

      @@qed100 still quite amazing how sharp they were for its time. Was this technique used in any other film from that era?

    • @aliensoup2420
      @aliensoup2420 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@semirecumbentoneYT It was projected 16mm film, not video.

  • @rohnkd4hct260
    @rohnkd4hct260 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great movie.

  • @mrrandom1265
    @mrrandom1265 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's "Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin" and you totally got the date wrong 😓

  • @mikiex
    @mikiex 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Music video... should have used Dancing on the ceiling !!!

  • @sclogse1
    @sclogse1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    None of this explains Nazi's on the moon.

  • @jondrew55
    @jondrew55 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As incredible as the effects were for the time, they do not reflect the reality of living in space. No one uses velcro shoes to walk up a wall. They just float from point to point (think Apollo 13). And even for long term space flight, it appears the use of centrifuges to simulate gravity is out. The structural and mechanical challenges are too great plus, depending on how large the centrifuge radius is, the inhabitants would experience disorientation when changing direction while walking on the floor.
    None of this takes anything away from 2001. The film was made with the knowledge they had at the time, and a need to not disorient the audience.

  • @lblackflash9426
    @lblackflash9426 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So cool

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      @lblackflash9426 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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  • @UKESRfertilizer
    @UKESRfertilizer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You could have explained more! indepth the actual way kubrick centrifugal walking etc..ocurred. than just generalised .

    • @davidcox331
      @davidcox331 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s what I’m trying to figure out!

  • @sagelight7777
    @sagelight7777 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There was no motion control in 2001 and no use of computers for controlling the cameras. Also the you have rear projection and front projection mixed up. 2001 used rear projection not front projection. Poorly researched video

    • @aliensoup2420
      @aliensoup2420 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Doh!! 2001 used Front Projection. Also, they used a non-computerized form of motion control for shooting the Discovery ship. They moved the camera or ship on a slowing turning worm-gear, that was accurately repeatable enough for their purposes.

  • @srinivasaramanujan2881
    @srinivasaramanujan2881 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    To oczywiste że to ONI wybrali ,czas ,miejsce i pewne okoliczności.W przeciwieństwie do ludzi nie musieli zabijać innych ludzi, w tym dzieci aby ta historia się " wypełniła " Ludzie mogli wybrać teoretycznie lepiej ,skrócić twoje cierpienia i zająć się ratowaniem siebie .Wybierają cały czas gorzej gdyż taka jest inatura ich wolnej woli ..Wszystko co zrobili ONI ,zrobili dla Waszego (wszystkich ludzi dobra ,kierowani troską o Was .Wiedzą lepiej od was czego potrzebujecie ( kiedyś to wiedzieliście ) ONI przekazują "Mengele " z hegemonii ,oprócz rozkazów córkojebcy macie też wolną wolę.

    • @janowitZzZ
      @janowitZzZ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Niezle ziomuś

  • @simplecomplicated1394
    @simplecomplicated1394 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i heard this music in a 1940 movie

    • @ricimercury9490
      @ricimercury9490 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Simple Complicated blue Danube was made in the 18th century

    • @simplecomplicated1394
      @simplecomplicated1394 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ricimercury9490 @ by whom? Strauss?

    • @ricimercury9490
      @ricimercury9490 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Simple Complicated yes Johann Strauss

    • @simplecomplicated1394
      @simplecomplicated1394 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ricimercury9490 is this Bob Dylan in your
      profile pic?

  • @Nickpaflas
    @Nickpaflas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Moon landing was July 20, 1969. Editing is dead.

  • @wengyap268
    @wengyap268 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    H.A.L Advance each letter by one and you get I.B.M

  • @targetedindividual7931
    @targetedindividual7931 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Maybe he filmed the moon landing?

    • @ajwithnoname5527
      @ajwithnoname5527 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Don’t be ridiculous.

    • @fianmu
      @fianmu ปีที่แล้ว

      I think so 😆

  • @landonb.9058
    @landonb.9058 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    500th like

  • @ManniLive
    @ManniLive 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This video is factually incorrect.

  • @katush8810
    @katush8810 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There are too many errors in this video, please take it down or put a warning on the video beforehand.

  • @tombystander
    @tombystander 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such a phenomenal effect ruined by an actor looking absolutely ridiculous running throwing "punches" or whatever those movements were supposed to be