@@Brass_Heathen you mean "dragoons draw sabers"? cavalry had sabers and pistols. not being a dick, it's just funny to me how one would fix bayonet on long rifle while on horseback, while on the move. i'd pay good money to see that struggle! 😂😂😂
We always taught a sort of switch kick into a side kick (instead of a round house) while moving backwards to help create some distance if you were panicking and getting overwhelmed. Doing a sidekick in this way allows you to push off your opponent while reducing their forward movement. Its used at intermediate levels, somewhat more advanced students are encouraged to circle and create opportunities for counters. Its not a great move but it helps less experienced students to fight that sense of panic that comes just before they pull a full retreat (which is never good).
Mike dropping more gold. Missed no podcast last night. I haven't sparred since COVID and feel like I lost my skills. Gonna to some squats in honor of Icy.
@@hard2hurt I do padwork drills on JT Van's channel. I did 30 squats in your honor tonight, Mike. Icy honor squats in memory of the Wednesday night podcast. lol
@@ZeroFucksLeft I hear you, but none of that is as fun as sparring and grappling. I do pushups and go on walks and/or swim in the summer. My knees feel better when I don't run.
Adam Lee yeah it’s crazy. I think mikes son films most of the videos. But yeah he looks massive as hell. He’s still massive for 5’8 but I thought he was like 6’3 or taller.
See for sport karate and good boxers these things going backwards and counter fighting are what they love,it’s all a bait,so many ways to punish a aggressive fighter,(sidekicks are the best,but the big thing is way easier in side stance to counter fight as footwork so much better going in and out or just escaping easy,spinning back kicks or backfist,but boxing alone got uppercuts check hooks straight cross lean backs,but reality is big percentage of people can’t fight going backwards including high level fighters just not in them at all,great video though 👍,
But the overall objective, or should be is to force an aggressive fighter to run into something rather it's a right cross, or a check hook, or a front kick, or whatever move.
They demonstrated how to use a check hook against an aggressive fighter. But if you watch the Floyd Mayweather vs. Ricky Hatton fight you'll see how Floyd knocked down Ricky(an aggressive fighter) with a check hook.
Some tips for taller fighters is to use your reach to drive your opppenent back and while they’re covered up or backpedaling it makes it easier to connect.
Not really fighting backward. Was more instepping attack defense/counters. Wheres the punching combinations? Elbows? Guess I'm confused on the direction this video was going
A good video is Mayweather vs Hatten, took him out with the check hook. Ran my man straight into the turnbuckle 😆 Great use of the technique in real time.
What about the spinning back kick? Or is it too risky in a mma or selfdefense context? I practise Taekwondo and do this all the time to maintain distance and punish overaggressive opponents.
I guess it's kinda like a double or nothing situation. If you miss you could get taken down or eat shots while your back is turned. But if you hit, it's gonna hit hard.
Hey Mike, I have been seeing a lot of videos of guys getting sucker-punched & TKO'ed & falling to the ground only to have the bad guy keep punching him till & after he goes out all the way. I would like to see you cover what to do if this happens, please. Thank you,
Question for Coach IcyMike have you done a video on using environment in self defense situations? Like in a parking lot, at park, or as Jackie Chan has shown in hotel room surrounded by five to ten people?
this is my area of expertise fighting while going backwards (aka fighting like a bitch), it's a good skill to have but eventually you'll run out of space so learn how to fight in place or moving forward. watch the last video mike did he talks about how not to run backwards when you fight.
Lol I've seen some people get some mean hits in while moving backwards because the other guys ran right into them. Especially if the backwards movement is followed by strong pivot counters. Plus, fighting like a bitch can be effective since I know some badass females who can wreck face if they didn't hold back.
You should never run outta space... If you're fighting properly you're circling and NEVER fighting backwards. Create angles to get off of his firing line!
So a high level tkd response to a full out rush is slide backwards then jump backwards while throwing a fade away wheel kick. It's super tricky and something on like sensei seth or kwon kickers level but you can knock fools out if can do it
Honestly you don't really put much power while moving because shifting too much of your weight messes up your movement just make sure both feet are on the ground when you punch it's hard to explain but punch on a step
I think if you want real power WHILE balanced you gotta sit down on it. Feet should be planted at impact... you can move and punch but the most power is from a stable platform... typically.
In self-defense situations, I've learned how to use the front kick and side kick quite effectively when some asshole swings and throws wildly in headhunting just to keep that asshole at bay.
Every coach I've had regardless of martial art: stop backing up, you can't fight like that Icy Mike: here's how you fight when backing up PS If I'm not mistaken top Thai fighters do 2:35 with a jumping knee followup a lot. Or it's just an impression I've got because it looks flashy :v
A defensive side kick ala Joe Lewis or retreating turn kick/spin back kick will STOP any aggressive fighter EVERYTIME. (Competition or self-defense) See my former instructor mentor and friend, Joe Lewis fighting systems for more information. Or, for those local to Pinellas County FL. train with World Champion David Bybee at American MMA.
I've seen you demonstrate the push front kick allot referencing TKD, It's interesting you land with the ball of your foot instead of pointing your heel. I was taught it with the goal of pulling your knee in and when kicking out aim to strike with your heel, like a horizontal stomp. With shoes on I doubt it makes much of a difference, interested in yawl's take on it
A "complete" course for self defense is not possible online really. The reason i don't make more actual courses is because if I'm gonna change people for something i have to know it is worth it. We have the front kick focus course available now that I'm very proud of.
Mike, if my town only has karate, tae kwon do, and jiu jitsu, which would you recommend as the best for practical self defense? The karate guy got his black belt from a UFC coach and the jiu jitsu guy won some sort of championship last year if that helps.
That’s not true at all doesn’t matter about your height,obviously it helps if tall with range,look at floyd mayweather best defensive boxer ever,he’s found a style he’s mastered in the philly shell used he’s speed reflexes shoulder and he’s pull counter check hook to out class every boxer he’s faced,very rarely has he ever attacked a boxer always defensive
I know he did something similar recently. I tried to hold onto this one for like two months because other people kept putting stuff out but I had to get through it. It happens.
@@hard2hurt yeah I know I only ask because I liked both of them but I liked the first one more and Shane's . How do I you feel about going back but at an angle. Or diagonal.
Dont worry, I understood that medieval reference. It would be awesome if you looked into phalanx or pike formations. I know riot police do shield formations but would a bunch of dudes with mops do the same or would riot police benefit from having a long ass staff as well as the shield?
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Staying balanced while moving in any direction is the core of Front Kick Focus, available at hard2hurt.teachable.com
Wow thanks mike
Knights on horses are called chavalry men or lancers if they’re not knights
Look like a Hop with a front kick
Looking to get a home Mat for wrestling/bjj any advise/ recommendations?
Moving backward. Could you do one if your opponent is in south paw?
legend has it anyone who has seen cliff show emotion never lived to tell the tale
Saw him smile in a different video and I swear I felt something crushing my spirit. 🤕
He is quite enigmatic but hopefully I can get him to open up to you guys gradually.
Leave Cliff alone man! He just seems like a chill dude lol
@@hard2hurt lol cliff is becoming a meme.
Hootie Hoo & The BlowPhish i think cliff is cool as hell lmao we just playin
This “don’t do this, but if you gotta, here’s how” mentality is my favorite thing about IcyMike
Got it, bring a spear to the fight. On it, chief.
CAVALRY!!! AFFIX BAYONETS!!!
@@Brass_Heathen you mean "dragoons draw sabers"? cavalry had sabers and pistols. not being a dick, it's just funny to me how one would fix bayonet on long rifle while on horseback, while on the move. i'd pay good money to see that struggle! 😂😂😂
How to spar midgets (effectively)
😂 not when you fight Pac man though he’s short and beat up giants
He goes both ways does he? 😏
It was the smash cut to the title that sold it...
"Some people have more success" yea those with long arms lol
You got experience fighting titans and shit any tips?
We always taught a sort of switch kick into a side kick (instead of a round house) while moving backwards to help create some distance if you were panicking and getting overwhelmed. Doing a sidekick in this way allows you to push off your opponent while reducing their forward movement. Its used at intermediate levels, somewhat more advanced students are encouraged to circle and create opportunities for counters. Its not a great move but it helps less experienced students to fight that sense of panic that comes just before they pull a full retreat (which is never good).
Yeah scaling things for skill level is important. Sometimes the lesson isn't "land this technique" as much as "don't do this other thing!"
Mike dropping more gold. Missed no podcast last night. I haven't sparred since COVID and feel like I lost my skills. Gonna to some squats in honor of Icy.
The Icy honor squats. Has a nice ring to it.
shadowbox shadowbox shadowbox (and also the squats too lol)
@@hard2hurt I do padwork drills on JT Van's channel. I did 30 squats in your honor tonight, Mike. Icy honor squats in memory of the Wednesday night podcast. lol
@@ZeroFucksLeft I hear you, but none of that is as fun as sparring and grappling. I do pushups and go on walks and/or swim in the summer. My knees feel better when I don't run.
@@Agiranto Hey I like it. I did 30 tonight in honor of his late Wednesday night podcast.
The title could also be" what to do if a knight charges at you with a lance" love the videos mike 😃
I don't think a check hook would do it lol
For a size reference cliff here is 5" 8" 😆
Is that real??????
@@willcee4966 yep, little known fact mike was actually in time bandits
It staggers me that I'm taller, video really messes with perception
@@5THR33S it's all clever camera angles dude
Adam Lee yeah it’s crazy. I think mikes son films most of the videos. But yeah he looks massive as hell. He’s still massive for 5’8 but I thought he was like 6’3 or taller.
See for sport karate and good boxers these things going backwards and counter fighting are what they love,it’s all a bait,so many ways to punish a aggressive fighter,(sidekicks are the best,but the big thing is way easier in side stance to counter fight as footwork so much better going in and out or just escaping easy,spinning back kicks or backfist,but boxing alone got uppercuts check hooks straight cross lean backs,but reality is big percentage of people can’t fight going backwards including high level fighters just not in them at all,great video though 👍,
5:00 seems like straight out from Tekken
Gonna have to practice that one. My go to move until now was to just throw jabs while moving backward.
But the overall objective, or should be is to force an aggressive fighter to run into something rather it's a right cross, or a check hook, or a front kick, or whatever move.
How to deal with a high volume fighter ?
They demonstrated how to use a check hook against an aggressive fighter. But if you watch the Floyd Mayweather vs. Ricky Hatton fight you'll see how Floyd knocked down Ricky(an aggressive fighter) with a check hook.
It’s very very good to go both ways lol
Some tips for taller fighters is to use your reach to drive your opppenent back and while they’re covered up or backpedaling it makes it easier to connect.
diagonal footwork and uppercuts really loaded up. Let him walk into the big shots. Pure boxing stuff indeed.
Mike, in need a heavy bag routine for me and my garage!
If you need to maybe fish for some knockdown points, like the demo @ 2:45, go for that gut then the head; get em with a 3-6-1 or so.
Hey Icy Mike! Great video. Love all your vids. Hope to see more with Cliff. Peace.
Not really fighting backward. Was more instepping attack defense/counters. Wheres the punching combinations? Elbows? Guess I'm confused on the direction this video was going
Backwards duh
So, are you saying Cliff is Bi-directional??
How tall is cliff actually
Stats say 5,10
I like the spear analogy. More nerdy stuff, please 😂
You know how I get down.
A good video is Mayweather vs Hatten, took him out with the check hook. Ran my man straight into the turnbuckle 😆 Great use of the technique in real time.
I'm sure you have done the video already. How about fighting in tight spaces like a hallway or up against a wall maybe?
Coming soon... its already filmed
You're saying Cliff isn't tall ?
So actually i found out that cliff its around 6 foot. 10 and 192lbs
They are called pikeman I think. Good reference for this.
There we go.
Great to hear Cliff dropping some wisdom. Wish I could go to your course in November!
When I can get him started he drops gold. He is very old school though and doesn't believe in talking much.
hard2hurt speak softly and carry a big . . . Everything. Just everything. He’s huge :)
It's alright Mike, I got the spear ref. You aren't alone.
Thanks dog
@@hard2hurt I see what you did there...
Looks real sounds real 5:00
What about the spinning back kick? Or is it too risky in a mma or selfdefense context? I practise Taekwondo and do this all the time to maintain distance and punish overaggressive opponents.
I guess it's kinda like a double or nothing situation. If you miss you could get taken down or eat shots while your back is turned. But if you hit, it's gonna hit hard.
Hey Mike, I have been seeing a lot of videos of guys getting sucker-punched & TKO'ed & falling to the ground only to have the bad guy keep punching him till & after he goes out all the way. I would like to see you cover what to do if this happens, please. Thank you,
Question for Coach IcyMike have you done a video on using environment in self defense situations? Like in a parking lot, at park, or as Jackie Chan has shown in hotel room surrounded by five to ten people?
Got some stuff right in that vein in the works. It's written, just haven't shot it yet.
You have a lot of good advice with this channel.. I'm glad to come across your channel!
I finally realised why Mike looks familiar! He looks like Edward Norton if Edward Norton could fight! Like Edward Norton's Stunt double
Hi Mike, could you do a video on knife defence?
this is my area of expertise fighting while going backwards (aka fighting like a bitch), it's a good skill to have but eventually you'll run out of space so learn how to fight in place or moving forward.
watch the last video mike did he talks about how not to run backwards when you fight.
Lol I've seen some people get some mean hits in while moving backwards because the other guys ran right into them. Especially if the backwards movement is followed by strong pivot counters. Plus, fighting like a bitch can be effective since I know some badass females who can wreck face if they didn't hold back.
You should never run outta space... If you're fighting properly you're circling and NEVER fighting backwards. Create angles to get off of his firing line!
How many times do u shave your head.I m just want to know
To keep it shiny and perfect like that he probably does it every day
I'm supposed to do it every other day... sometimes I'm slack.
He goes both ways🤔
So a high level tkd response to a full out rush is slide backwards then jump backwards while throwing a fade away wheel kick. It's super tricky and something on like sensei seth or kwon kickers level but you can knock fools out if can do it
Damn I'm early! Mike how do you personally get power in your punches while moving?
Honestly you don't really put much power while moving because shifting too much of your weight messes up your movement just make sure both feet are on the ground when you punch it's hard to explain but punch on a step
@@Imtiredrn I know, just asked him how he does it
I think if you want real power WHILE balanced you gotta sit down on it. Feet should be planted at impact... you can move and punch but the most power is from a stable platform... typically.
@@hard2hurt unless you're spiderman which it's safe to assume most of us aren't
@@hard2hurt Thank you Mike for the response!
3:36 but blocks don’t work. 😝 Good stuff. Love the first hook that was demonstrated.
In self-defense situations, I've learned how to use the front kick and side kick quite effectively when some asshole swings and throws wildly in headhunting just to keep that asshole at bay.
Looking to get a home Mat for wrestling/bjj any advise/ recommendations?
Every coach I've had regardless of martial art: stop backing up, you can't fight like that
Icy Mike: here's how you fight when backing up
PS If I'm not mistaken top Thai fighters do 2:35 with a jumping knee followup a lot. Or it's just an impression I've got because it looks flashy :v
Lol i said stop backing up last week... it's a bit
You could also make that kick a switch backwards
I mean you could just throw out your jab. Jab will stop damn near anything.
This just clarified why my check hook hasn’t been as successful as it could have been.THANK YOU!!!
Good to hear!
What does Mike think of streetbeefs tyree vs barbarian shenanigans
You wanna spear? Try lead side kicks. 3-:)
Pretty tiny feet for a big man lol
A defensive side kick ala Joe Lewis or retreating turn kick/spin back kick will STOP any aggressive fighter EVERYTIME. (Competition or self-defense) See my former instructor mentor and friend, Joe Lewis fighting systems for more information. Or, for those local to Pinellas County FL. train with World Champion David Bybee at American MMA.
Lol ok guy
Keep in mind, these only work if you are ten feet taller then your opponent
HE SPOKE!!!!!
He actually does sometimes.
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Yeah what's up with these things?
In my experience most people engage with kicks and I struggle a lot fighting backwards against kicks. Any ideas on that icy Mike?
Moving backwards against a good kicker is problematic. Time his kicks and step IN to remove his ability to kick
Thats some Bruce Lee era jeet kune do goodness right there! The defensive leaning back kick. Noice!
I've seen you demonstrate the push front kick allot referencing TKD, It's interesting you land with the ball of your foot instead of pointing your heel. I was taught it with the goal of pulling your knee in and when kicking out aim to strike with your heel, like a horizontal stomp. With shoes on I doubt it makes much of a difference, interested in yawl's take on it
I would just go to the body. 😂
are there any videos of cliff fighting in a real match?
Lol
@@hard2hurt i guess not?
Could you teach a Set Up to run away? Self defense wise, I mostly just wanna Effing run the hell outta there...
Cliff mentions Ali but Canelo is great modern example of using the lead/left hook. Canelo will use it to finish combos and retreat.
Cliff is old school lol
Have you seen the new flashlight "Stinger 2020" - what do u think about that one? :)
this guy is awesome
Pikemen use...pikes 😉
That retreating front kicks a bad idea. Spinning back kick works well along with retreating jab .
You forgot to clap 😂
Try taking your left leg all the way back and using the momentum punching a right hook at the same time. It works.
Cliffs kick to the body is wors but they usually catch those.
We have a system for drawing out their right hand.
Man, mike all with the pikeman references... Must be a scotsman
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The style of fighting totally depends on the fighter how he is comfortable fighting
You can't go backwards if you just go to the body.
Get out.
Whenever he talks about the "medieval spear" it reminds me of that one scene from Braveheart, where they trick the horsemen into a spear trap
I wish you have a complete course for self defense using your mma
A "complete" course for self defense is not possible online really. The reason i don't make more actual courses is because if I'm gonna change people for something i have to know it is worth it. We have the front kick focus course available now that I'm very proud of.
Mike, if my town only has karate, tae kwon do, and jiu jitsu, which would you recommend as the best for practical self defense? The karate guy got his black belt from a UFC coach and the jiu jitsu guy won some sort of championship last year if that helps.
Not knowing anything else, bjj places generally have the best quality control, but really you should just pick the place you like the most.
@@hard2hurt thanks for answering and making videos. I think I'll probably go with jiu jitsu. Love the channel
I tried to find his fights I can’t can you help me Icy Mike
Those check hooks remind me the counters of roy jones jr
Actually mike it’s called a pike
Oh man good thing we cleared that up.
You need good reach to punch while going backwards, that is why it doesn't work for Icy Mike (or me, also 5'5").
That’s not true at all doesn’t matter about your height,obviously it helps if tall with range,look at floyd mayweather best defensive boxer ever,he’s found a style he’s mastered in the philly shell used he’s speed reflexes shoulder and he’s pull counter check hook to out class every boxer he’s faced,very rarely has he ever attacked a boxer always defensive
So what you are saying when going back don't do a jumping spinning, flying, double, upside down sidekick tp make distance? All jokes aside cool video
You should definitely do that. Please film it.
Sweet! Love these sports oriented vids man! Good job 👍
I feel like you forget that someone on a horse would've been using a lance or spear as well.
The star technique of this video is the smirk.
The beginning sounds like the video Shane fazen just posted 😂
I think he did something recently on this. We filmed this two months ago though (before front kick focus even had a name, hence the edit)
Great, grant and GO the Gift !
How to fight backwards:
1. Get up off the ground
2. Get punched in the face
3. Argue with angry dude
4. Check out dude's girlfriend
5. Repeat?
Oh wait... now I get it lol.
2:00 laughs in 6”3 15 year old
Love ur videos
Woow woow 😍💋 💝💖❤️
Love the follow up!
You know how we do.
Did you watch Shane's video.
I know he did something similar recently. I tried to hold onto this one for like two months because other people kept putting stuff out but I had to get through it. It happens.
@@hard2hurt yeah I know I only ask because I liked both of them but I liked the first one more and Shane's . How do I you feel about going back but at an angle. Or diagonal.
Nice vid mate
Cliff just looks like you shouldn't fuck with him. 😂 That dude's neck, waist, legs and arms are all the same thickness. Brick shithouse. Lol.
Dont worry, I understood that medieval reference. It would be awesome if you looked into phalanx or pike formations. I know riot police do shield formations but would a bunch of dudes with mops do the same or would riot police benefit from having a long ass staff as well as the shield?