Deadliest Year in Vietnam: The Tet Offensive | Animated History
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Arnold, James R. Tet Offensive 1968: Turning Point in Vietnam (London: Osprey Publishing, 1990).
Pribbenow, Merle L., Duiker., William J. Victory in Vietnam: The Official History of the People's Army of Vietnam, 1954-1975 (University Press of Kansas. Lawrence: University Press of Kansas, 2002).
Sarin, Oleg Leonidovich, Dvoret︠s︡kiĭ, Lev Semenovich. Alien Wars: The Soviet Union’s Aggressions Against the World, 1919-1989 (University of Michigan: Presidio, 1996).
Schlight, John. The War in South Vietnam: The Years of the Offensive 1965-1968 (Air Force History and Museums Program, 1999).
Shulimson, Jack. U.S. Marines in Vietnam: The Defining Year, 1968 (History and Museums Division, Headquarters, U.S. Marine Corps, 1997).
Willbanks, James H. The Tet Offensive: A Concise History (New York: Columbia University Press, 2007).
Wirtz, James J. The Tet Offensive: Intelligence Failure In War (London: Cornell University Press, 1991).
Zhai, Qiang. China and the Vietnam Wars, 1950-1975 (United States: University of North Carolina Press, 2005).
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When I was in Vietnam a year ago I met a man who did not fight in the Tet offensive because at the time he was sent to Bulgaria to get his agricultural degree. However, the NVA asking for a son from each family to fight ended up sending his brother in his place since they couldn’t send, the oldest. The brother died during the offensive, and his body wasn’t recovered. For the next 20 years that man spent every off-season from his university job traveling to Saigon via motorbike in order to try and find his brothers bones to bring them home. With luck by his side he ended up meeting some women there, who knew his brother during the war. They ended up finding his brother’s bones returning them to Hanoi where they were buried properly.
This story makes a good short film.
thank you for the story. That's beautiful. War is so ugly. But the humanity that rises above it is beautiful.
How did they know where his body was?
@bboi1489 that's the twist, he was killed by those ladies!
They were the guerillas or just sympathizer whose job was to transport the WIA and the KIA to the rear @@bboi1489
My grandfather was in Country during Tet and was fighting in Hue. He volunteered in 1963, went over in 1965 and came home in 1968. He often talked about his time before Tet and how boring it was and his volunteering to go on patrol to escape boredom. When Tet comes up, he gets quiet. He only ever told me two things about his time in Hue, the buildings and seeing Walter Kronkite reporting the news across the street while stacked behind a wall.
The only other thing he talked about after Hue was the plane ride home.
I remember when we were watching full metal jacket, he talked all about his time in basic, how a drill instructor cracked his ribs with a rifle butt, testing paper sleeping bags and parade formations. When the Hue segment came up, I could tell that he was no longer in a comfortable living room in modern day Missouri, he was back there.
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Was your grandpappy bored with murdering vietnamese civilians?
Wonder what kind of war crimes and atrocities he is hiding during that period he wouldn’t speak of
@@janusjones6519 I do recall the 1st marine division stumbling on a mass execution site of Vietnamese catholics and intellectuals murdered by the NVA during the battle.
Of course, there is always those two questions you never ask a veteran: "Did you kill someone?" And, "Did any of your friends die?" I believe in his point of view, it could be both.
@@nicholasmontgomery8594 Yes. As a pacifist I hate war, and sometimes if the soldiers killed when they did not have to I hate them too, but in self defense I understand.
Tet Offensive was a tactical failure but a strategic victory that sent shockwaves to the world for Vietnam. Prime examples of, not all failures are bad.
It was because they were able to strike in so many unexpected places. The communist Vietnamese lost every battle in Tet Offensive but it was demoralizing to the US troops. It really showed them that the battle was far from over and that it would be a war unlike any other war they fought before. No front-lines, asymmetrical warfare, and no clear objectives. It sapped the American will to continue fighting.
So, task failed successfully?
@@The_whales nah more like task failed, unexpected outcome
They were still successful in disrupting US and ARVN logistic though.
Several "ambush cells" inside South Vietnam was established during Tet Offensive.
These cells would gradually grow until the end of the war and destroy so many American supply convoy for Fire Bases through northern South Vietnam region.
They also briefly manage to occupy a portion of land inside South Vietnam for months before being dislodge.
In the end, the Tet offensives is a tactical defeat for Vietcong. But this offensive sown the seed of the eventual destruction of South Vietnam.
I remember that the VC thought they were finished. They had lost so much that they expected the US would mop them up afterwards. It was a pleasant surprise to discover the failed offensive broke the will of the US to continue the fight.
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The thumbnails suck
@@Nintendofan570 how so?
@@Nintendofan570You kidding? They’re pretty great
agreed
It is criminal how most people forget about the actions of south Vietnam’s armed forces (ARVN) during the Vietnam war while exclusively thinking it was a North Vietnam vs USA war. You guys gotta do a full fledged video about ARVN/the Vietnam war from the south Vietnamese perspective
1. They sucked 2. They were Fascist scum fighting for a Christian Dictator oppressing his Budhist people
corrupt puppet sout vietnam state 😂😂😂😂
People also tend to forget France's involvement.
The Vietnam War from South Vietnam's perspective is sorely needed. Alongside the perspectives of Cambodia and Laos that were also invaded by North Vietnam and the perspective of what happened afterwards since few remember those hundreds of thousands who died post-1975.
@@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem ^^^ especially since the actions of the French in the 50’s setup the full scale US involvement in the 60’s
I've been watching your videos since 2019, and all i have to say is that i am saddened that your channel is, like many other channels, is slowly loosing its popularity on youtube. i appreciate the work you put into these videos. keep it up for as long as you can.
Is this channel really dropping in popularity?
@@cobracommander8133 Due to youtube's poor policies and quite frankly censoring & hiding channels like this.
@@cobracommander8133 I've noticed that viewership has gone down drastically in the past months
@@cobracommander8133no, he’s shifted most of their main work to their private websites which gain traction.
@@cobracommander8133 No, it's mostly just being demonetized and age restricted by TH-cam.
If you stand close to Westmoreland's grave you can hear him saying “ The main attack is coming at Ke Sahn.” Over and over and over…..
If we got to end each chapter of my history class with one of these videos, I think there would be a lot more people appreciating history rather than looking past it.
It's entertaining for sure. But learning about significant world events through vignettes like this does not necessarily help you understand history better.
Only so much time to learn about history in school. This video has more information than the average student would learn from a textbook
Amen. It so angers me that these history channels provide an actual educational resource on YT but...YT punishes and demonetizes them for actually presenting history. "Thats disturbing...don't talk about that." But we can watch morons eating tide pods. Unbelievable level of incompetence.
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My grandfather was in Saigon for the Tet offensive. He was billeted in the Five Oceans hotel in the city and commuted to Bien Hoa airbase to advise ARVN logistical troops there. I've gotten the pleasure to spend a lot of time with him and to hear his stories of his time there, and he always mentioned a pilot he knew who was trying to get to an airfield and to his plane. He told me his jeep took a wrong turn somewhere and was never seen again. He mentioned also that the VC could be anyone. Was he the guy on a bike next to you at a stop light? Your driver? You could never tell.
I've been watching your videos for a while, and the increase in quality is incredible. I especially love the perspective videos.
My uncle fought in Vietnam over the course of the war and this offensive. He would talk about it time to time. He served as a radio operator with special forces groups and his most vivid memory is from Saigon when he was there. He was calling in request from a helicopter during the whole battle.
I've just come back from a four-month stint in Vietnam.
There was a famous cafe in D3 in downtown HCMC (Saigon) that helped to store arms and munitions in preparation for the Tet Offensive.
Was a very interesting place that I otherwise would have walked past unaware of its significance.
The old South Vietnam government due to its policies never ever won the heart of the people. Even most south Vietnam people supported the north, and even a North Vietnamese spy almost became a South Vietnamese president and end the war peacefully.
@@hoangnguyenminh9594Remember when the North Vietnamese waited for millions to die in Cambodia before intervening? What lovely humanitarians they were! Being on the side of the CCP was surely in the best interest of all humanity! Trite nonsense
@@zachdave2994 If you think a nation that just walked out from a war would enter another one that willy nilly , you know you should get help.
@@zachdave2994 The Viets hate the CCP, they even had a war over it. AND They're CURRENTLY one of America's closest allies in Asia that's trying to put a check on China's power.
@@zachdave2994get your fact right. The Khmer Rouge Regime was supported by CCP. CCP even attacked Vietnam 1978 because VN intetfered with genocide in Cambodia. Google it, its free
Amazing video. My maternal grandfather served with the Army in Vietnam during the Tet Offensive from January 1968 to January 1969.
What a great woman! Was she there to intervene on Pol Pots regime, only after millions were put in graves? Only several million had to die, surely she was animated to end that travesty!
Thank you for giving us so many historical videos.
My granddad was actually in-country during the tet offensive, and though he doesn't talk about the war much anymore, he inspired me to start researching the vietnam war. Thanks for covering this!
It should be noted that the Viet Cong ceased to be a real fighting force after the offensive because of how many of them died. The Viet Cong would never completely recover, it became completely depended on North Vietnam and it never consisted of majority South Vietnamese again.
but they win the war
@@cuentaprincipal3225 The war that involved the US ended in Peace Accords, however North Vietnam did win and reunify the country when it invaded South Vietnam a couple years later.
@@diegoquezada3193 hahaha nice joke
@@diegoquezada3193 South Vietnam existed only because of the American anti-communist doctrine, who took Vietnam? The communists, who fled? USA
@@cuentaprincipal3225 Indeed South Vietnam would remain a country while the USA military was still there, could you please point at any point in time where North Vietnam successfully conquered the entirety of South Vietnam while the US military was still there? I am as well referring to one war in which the US military was directly involved, in a series of war that led to the eventual reunification of Vietnam by the North, that war that the US military was directly involved in ended in peace accords in Paris which ended said war until the North Vietnam would start another war fighting South Vietnam by itself.
Been on a big vietnam and indo china binge as of late, and this only sassiates my palate.
Thanks mate.
Then I'd recommend the 1992 movie dien bien phu it's in french so be warned but it's historical accuracy is phenomenal and it's a genuinealy good and interesting movie to watch
@@thefrenchbaguette919 Sounds great; know where I can find it?
Wasn’t it cool how the newly communist government of Vietnam waited until millions of their neighbors died to intervene in Pol Pots regime? I thought that was pretty normal. The United States of interference would have certainly waited for millions to die at the hands of a poor ideology, don’t you think?
They defeated us right
@@thefrenchbaguette919 the movie is Franco-Vietnamese, it has been done by both countries.
Remember folks the republic did not go down without a fight if you want to disappear then you must take it down by force, my grandpa was a NVA soldier who had a hard time fighting off the republic meanwhile my grandma who was a medic in the ARVN also had a hard time fighting for the republic. After the war end in 1975 with the communist victory they both married and lived a happy life after i have alot of relatives who fought for both sides and then have their own perspective and way of thinking about the war but a wise person would take those two perspectives, scramble it to form a final perspective and not being biased to one perspective only
After the war 1975
The communists put hundreds thousands of south Vietnamese soldiers in the prison !
I have been on this channel for about 4 years or so. I have to say that quality, animation and education this channel proudces are still amazing. Awsome video, Keep up the great work team.
My Dad's American Grandfather was in the U.S Army in the Vietnam War and during most of the conflict with two uncles. Grandfather survived the war but my two uncles didn't made it. Feels emotional about it.
13:42 Rising Storm 2 players can remember the desperation of holding onto the Embassy building in the Saigon Map
Hue city in that game is a meat grinder too
Thank you for sharing these wonderful videos!!! Very informative, and I love the animations!
TET also brought about the end of the Viet Cong as a viable fighting force. And when the PAVN finally resupplied for their next huge offensive, it also failed even though there were only a fraction of the U.S. forces in country.
my grandfather who was in the US Army was already 2 years into his service in Vietnam. I think he had already become a Sergeant by 1968. he was stationed at a firebase somewhere in the central highlands once the tet offensive started and he got out of that offensive with a bronze star and purple heart. he ended up returning with three bronze stars and two purple hearts. supposedly he has been under consideration recently to recieve a silver star for some other actions he did in his service in Vietnam
Was it for murdering vietnamese civilians?
Tell your grandpa he fought for shareholders and bosses
samn i didn't know the hippies from 1968 were still here 🤣
@@slayermcrx7519 your empire almost crumbled in the summer of 1968. Its crumbling now
@@nerrler5574you spelled rats wrong
My Uncle was a machine gunner in 'Nam and was part of the Tet Offensive. He says he spent hours shooting his M-60 and has no idea how many men he killed. He never looked, he never asked. He never wanted to know. He was shaken to his core.
Brutal stone cold killer
@@janusjones6519 Not at all. In fact the opposite. He wept. He was just a kid, far away from home, in a fight that wasn't his.
@@cerberus144 at least he still got the chance to cry about it
Loved this style of video and looking at well known events but from different POV’s. Also looking sharp Griffen with the haircut 👍
I've been waiting for another Vietnam video since Ia Drang! These videos are so good.
Absolutely love this channel. Very informative and well put together. Great graphics I can’t imagine how much work goes into each episode.
6:05 nice Full Metal Jacket reference on one of the helmets.
And the name patches.
A textbook example of technically winning on the military side.
But losing badly on the Public Relations/perception front.
Epirus vs Rome all over.
Wrong
Sending young men to fight across the world in pointless wars of imperialism does tend to have a negative effect on public relations
@@rice4550Add to that, having those young men be DRAFTED into an undeclared war...
They were only with the CCP, who saved North Korea just 10 years prior . At the cost of 100,000 lives. Surely Vietnam was no more communist or oppressive than their North Korean Allies. Watching millions die in Cambodia before intervening.
Another great video
Thanks guys!❤
Thank you for still posting on TH-cam!
Inaccuracy on the map at 10:47 - the ARVN 42nd Division does not exist. That's a Regiment that operates under the command of the 22nd.
Also this is an anacronism, but the 23rd is typically headquartered in Ban Mê Thuột (as it was called back then). It's marked on the map as Buon Ma Thuot which is the modern name.
The 22nd is typically at Kon Tum, but I'm not sure for 68, that's for 72.
Yooo, nice seeing you here.
Fantastic channel. Always good content
Another amazing video!
I remember Giap didn’t like the Tet offensive, he went even further by protesting it in going to czech and didn’t even command the troops during tet offensive
well the north vietnamese lost 90% of their military so looked like he was right
@@Robert-hy3vv it was at the expense of vietcong soldiers,not NVA, so after 68 only nva fight the war and vietcong cease to exist as an fighting force
@@Robert-hy3vvVC not PAVN
Armchair never ceases to amaze and give me knowledge
The Vietnam War is a topic I don't know as much about compared to WW1 or WW2 but, thanks to this channel, I'm always learning something new
I'll keep saying this this might be the best history channel ever love your content!
Excellent video as always, thanks.
Great video, keep it up!
Excellent video as always! Lol Star Trek nod got me gigglin’ thanks.
very cool production on this one dude. Thanks from some rando to you and your crew.
One of my family members was in this, great to see someone talking about it!
This channel is amazing
This man never misses with his content
Thanks for hitting my niche. I was just pining for a good Vietnam story (im not old lol), and this shows up in my feed. Gold.
AMAZING VIDEO, BEST ONE IVE SEEN IN SO LONG 🎉
When you win militarily, but lose confidence in the final victory.
Democracies typically do. No public wants to fight a war that isn't threatening their own homeland.
@@scottanno8861 Yeah, the Vietnam War was the last time the US implemented a draft. It was a very unpopular war for many Americans.
Kissinger and the OG Demoncrats and OG RINO Republicans in US Senate and Congress stabbed the Vietnamese Republic in the back.
One severe and classic mistake that most people believe if they don't know the latest research. Võ Nguyên Giáp's involvement is strictly untrue and he opposed it to the point he left Vietnam for Eastern Europe during its planning, in protest. This came out after numerous Vietnamese government sources became unsealed in roughly 2005.
This overemphasis on Giáp or Hồ Chí Minh is typical of the orthodox view of the war, and many of its points have been taken down. By this point, Lê Duẩn and Lê Dức Thọ drove North Vietnamese policy.
The North watched as millions died in Cambodia, if you believe the United States would have done the same then you’re naive
@@zachdave2994 irrelevant to what op stated
@@FettermanGPT Ho Chi Minh disagrees. His people and his regime were the ones that intervened. Nice try morally obfuscating the deaths of millions.
@@FettermanGPT The leader of Vietnam disagreed. Millions dying is never irrelevant.
The other mistake most people also made was to distinguish the PAVN and the NLF. While all PAVN units that went South would be redesignated as NLF units.
I started watching this channel in 2021 and the difference in quality is crazy of how much this channel has grown
Fantastic video. Thank you 😊
This really may be the best videos y'all have ever done. This really showed as the viewer how formidable the North Vietnamese forces were. Messing with them on their home territory...why did we do it!
I think the US got too cockey and underestimate the enemy, they should of study history, the same dude wearing pajamas defeated 3 mongol invasion let alone the chinese and the rest
What it showed was how hamstrung American forces were by their ROE’s. Had the generals been allowed to fight the war the way they wanted instead of how the politicians wanted we would’ve won.
@@Polostar79
Lol, kill innocents men and women is not enough for you ?
@@Polostar79Unlikely, Vietnamese forces will simply replenish themselves as long as the US invaders remained in Vietnam.
Yooo nice fade bro 💈
I like and support your unadulterated content so much you're the only channel where.i actually sit through the ad
It's a lovely day when Oversimplified and The Armchair Historian uploads.
I love the Armchair Historian
6:05 Hey I see that Full Metal Jacket reference.
Best history channel ever!!!
Great script, amazing art and Animation. Thanks for the video, keep it up
Vietnam People are one of the bravest people in the world who hold on to three mega superpowers in less than 4 decades ! The French, USA and China
Ho chi Minh is a true symbol of Valor and courage for the years to come...
Much Respect from the Indian Brothers 🇮🇳🤝🇻🇳
True
Don't forget the Mongols
@@thedrinkinggamemaker9749 yes you are right
vietnam is a fascist state
China and France were no superpowers back then
Hey, cool video as always. Great animations. Great script. The narrator is always amazing. But there’s just two things I believe are inaccurate. I might be wrong about this, but I believe that the NVA did not really use the tunnel systems that much. The Vietcong were the main people that used the tunnel systems in the Vietnam war. Also, on the animations depicting, American soldiers with M-16, whoever is doing the animating is giving the M-16s a banana clip but the banana clips weren’t used until after the Vietnam war. They had a smaller 20 round straight magazine.
They did have 30 rounders in Vietnam but they started to only issue them on mass during the early 70's and because this video is about Tet offensive the overwhelming majority of troops would still be using 20 rounders because they weren't mass produced back then and the early examples were unreliable. So I agree with you that they shouldn't show the 30-rounders in this animation if one wants to be picky.
Nice haircut Griffon and another great video!
Love the animation
My Grandpa's Brother Was Conscripted in to the ARVN in 1967 and got stationed at Quang Tri and in 1968 pull backed to Hue before a Landmine put him out of Action, he did lived tho
i wonder how much hamas had studied the tet offensive
A lot!
Their bad luck is that everyone studies it too, including their enemies.
@@1wun1 well tell that to american who had their 2nd evacuation of Vietnam in Afgan 2 years ago…the point is, do you get anything out of these studies or are you just “oh these time are different, we have tech now, so we be ok” then get bog down into a costly war?!
@@Mynameshere1310
That afghan adventure was almost like a holiday, Tet offensive was serious business.
YEEEEAAAAAAH!
Sorry, always happy when there's a new video hahaha I know what I'm listening to tonight hehe
Ps: I would love one day a video about the romanian ww2 perspective! Probably not as much to cover as Germany Italy or japan for the axis side but there's still a fair amount to cover and I can't think of another historian to cover it than you!
Love this video
This was ALOT better than my 8th grade paper on the Tet.
Well done.
I love the full metal jacket reference he worked into this one. Anyone else spot it?
Commenting for recommendations
WOW! What a video! Insanely well made, and deeply entertaining. This is so inspiring for me as a creator, wish I had a team like you guys! Because you are a team right? Right...?
I was not expecting that haircut mid video. Looks fresh though :)
You should make a vid about the “whiskey on the rocks” incident during the 80’s, the time when Sweden got the closest to war against the soviets
There are so many easter eggs in these animations. I love it
Diggin the rest cut dude😎
Fresh cut goes hard
Thank you for including black American soldiers in your video. My great uncle died in Vietnam. RIP to all the brave Americans that died 🇺🇸
No, they like all in the American Empire's military are war criminals
20% of battlefield deaths were black soldiers. This was disproportionately high for frontline units. To not include them in the video would be historically inaccurate.
Thanks!
Great video
General Giap did not command this battle, he was in Eastern Europe in a hospital when this happened. People keep giving him credit for stuff he didn't even plan for. He also did way more in the French Indochina War than he did in the Vietnam War. You forgot the mention that this strategy was entirely dependent on the ARVN uprising against the US forces, that was why it was called the "General Uprising Plan". You neglect to mention the tensions between the pro-war and pro-peace camps in Hanoi that lead to the Tet offensive. the VC forces disagreed with the PAVN command because this would use most of their reserves that were meant to commit to hit and run tactics, not long engaging conventional warfare that it would end up doing during this operation. None of the intention was to "convince the US public to quit the war" that was an unintended side effect that helped them later on. To say that North Vietnam was rejoicing is an incorrect assessment. In fact they kept going 2 and 3 more times before realizing it wasn't working. They were pissed, but Le Duan knew the US wouldn't invade the North so he kept the aggressive conventional policy despite the Politburo disagreeing for a more "sit and wait" approach as they have stated: "Never again and under no circumstances are we going to risk our entire military force for just such an offensive. On the contrary, we should endeavor to preserve our military potential for future campaigns." They wouldn't use the VC for offensives like in the early days, but kept them in more of an intelligence role in urban areas (Biet Dong Thanh). The North Vietnamese were not suicidal like they are portrayed, the Le Duan camp really thought they could militarily take the South, based on fears that the ARVN would be too militarized by the West, before it was too late. Not a single ARVN troop disserted, which goes to show the overconfidence of Hanoi to not bother working on their own hearts and minds for the great switcheroo they wanted. Around 80% of the Viet Cong forces were destroyed, leading to PAVN troops filling the ranks and paving the way for the rest of the War's strategy focusing on even more deadlier catastrophic, conventional land seizures using state of the art Soviet and Chinese tanks and artillery pieces. The Eastern Offensive would be one of the deadliest battles the PAVN will ever face before achieving victory.
Of course i'd see Kabutoes here.
Fantastic comment! It would be awesome to see you make videos on the subject! Maybe reach out to others who can help with the production as a joint project.
Love your channel!
I remember seeing the "I'm a Star Wars"tm" fan though" during the live stream yesterday.
17:11 also wanna mention I’ve read in several books about the tet offensive, it’s recorded that during the tet offensive the Vietcong was almost completely wiped out
I love the channel
Wrong m16 14:10 m16a2 didn't exit in 1968 and was adopted only in 1983 you can see it with wrong magazine and hand guard!
30 round magazine was used in 67' already but only by MACV and the Navy Seals. Regular troops received them after 1970 in bigger numbers.
Chunky Justinian isn't real he can't hurt you:
*Chunky Justinian:*
@@buzter8135 Narses was an Romanised Aremnian eastern roman general
@@Narses_the_aremnian I know but the byzantine artists has some brutal same-face syndrome so the jokes make themselves.
@@Narses_the_aremnian I know but the byzantine artists had brutal same-face syndrome so the jokes made themselves.
It's sort of funny, the US Army thought they won the Tet Offensive pretty decisively, and a lot of soldiers were surprised at how it was being portrayed back home. In many ways the NVA's loss was their biggest victory.
Looking dapper with that haircut Mr History Man
The slow mo looks incredible guys
5:43 Star Track refrence
My grandfather was a NVA spy who fought during the offensive, he was shot in the head by an American sniper and the sniper missed his brain by 1.5 inches. After the offensive he joined the south Vietnamese military as a spy and rose to the rank of Lt colonel where he fed troop movement information to the Vietcong forces. He told me the stories when I was a young boy, and know that I am older I regard him as a hero to our country, before he died he requested that he would be buried in the states and we honored his wish.
Griffin and his fresh cut is 👌🏻
A lot of people like to call the Americans involvement in Vietnam a mistake.One question I have....What would have happened in southeast Asia had The USA decided not to get involved?....Many can hypothesize...but no one can really know....So I conclude by saying that it is very possible the involvement of the USA was still a necessary and correct choice..Although different strategies surely would have been better.
To understand this, we might we want to ask ourselves this question: Just how was VN going to turn all of SEA red, as feared by Team CIA at that time?
In Central and Eastern Europe, the USSR went all the way to the Elbe River. In SEA and the Pacific, the US was the USSR.
Quite hard to see how a single SEA Red Bloc could appear. Ne Win, Sukarno and Ho Chi Minh all on the same anti-US side in the early 1960s?
In the case of former Indochina, US intervention (or perhaps invasion was a more accurate term since there was no Saigon Republic in 1945) strengthened the Red factor in Laos and Cambodia.
When MacArthur decided to not to stop north of Pyongyang, that triggered a chain of events. Easy for later persons to point out strategy weakness but when US troops had to hastily retreat in the cold winter, that impact would be felt decades later.
It was possible to maintain SEA countries as friendly neutrals at that time, with limited cooperation agreements but the mood in DC at that time was really different.😐😐
Even nowadays, the neo-cons just could not understand why SEA countries would not want to become part of a reconstituted SEATO.
@@fortpark-wd9sxNo not really domino theory was a reality in SEA countries, after Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos fell. Thailand was able to destroy the communists because most of them were ethnic minorities like the communists in Malaysia
rushed withdrawal
firstly Vietnam, then Afghanistan
what's next ??
Iran ? Yemen ?
You've had no excuse for Afghanistan.
Yaaaay he uploaded
Hey Armchair Historian, could you possibly make a video about Cambodia? I want to learn more about my people and I love your videos.
I love this channel but not sure how the millions of South Vietnamese refugees living in America and other western countries feel about unambiguously referring to Viet Cong territories as “liberated”.
I’m aware that’s how the VC referred to it, but I’d recommend more neutral terms like “captured” or “controlled” territories, or if you really want to use the VC terminology maybe say “what the VC referred to as the ‘liberated territories’”.
You may also want to consider the feeling of millions of Vietnamese who from 1940 to 1975 who have fought to ensure an independent sovereign nation and their descendants who are still living in Vietnam.
@@fortpark-wd9sx I actually underestimated the number, there are over 2 million South Vietnamese living in America alone, and over 4 million in western countries overall. Countless others either died fighting, were unable to flee, or perished in their attempt.
To claim only one side in the conflict represented the Vietnamese people is to ignore reality.
@@TheLocalLt I agree on the one-sidedness. We in the West have focused too much on the Saigon exiles and their descendants.
We want to think they will happily forget about Agent Orange, My Lai and Rolling Thunder.
We want to pretend it is not them who have kicked the Khmer Rouge out.
They have repeatedly stated they want neutrality and they are willing to move on.
The neo-cons just cannot understand why they refuse to be cannon fodder for the next globalist adventure.
Unfortunately, the main American failure in Vietnam is hubris and over-optimism. Because of that the civilian population thought that the war was going splendidly.
If the efforts on the ground were honestly reported, that it was a gradual slog, but still making progress, then I wonder if the American populace would not have had such massive gut reaction to pull out ?
Actually, because a lot of this war was shown on the evening news, dinner time for most in America, people got that sense how bad this war was going. Especially, after the My Lai massacre, most Americans questioned even harder the purpose of this war.
@@coxmosia1 It doesn't help that US media was biased against the war and troops. The Vietcong committed even more atrocities than the Americans, but were ignored for ideological reasons.
What failure? When the North sued for peace they stopped their invasion of the south which was what the US joined the war for. 2 years after america left south vietnam capitulated.
There were no progress, the military wasn't allowed to capture land anyway. The U.S government kept using body counts as a metric for success, and when it was revealed that U.S soldiers were massacring women and children and adding them to the killed list, the public was rightfully outraged.
@@coxmosia1ironically US tried to paint them as Vietcong forces before getting exposed
You Rock!
great video
Why no mention of the Hue Massacre?
Great video! One thing though, President Ngô Đình Diệm is actually pronounced "Ng-o Deen Zee-em" not "No Din Deem!"
My family is from South Vietnam!
No Din Deem lolz, sound better xD