Chernobyl (2019) (HBO) - How does an RBMK reactor explodes? Lies ! Vichnaya Pamyat - Episode 5
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- Vichnaya Pamyat - Chernobyl season 1 episode 5
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I like how Legasov's ending speech also answers the question posed by Formin early on of how an RBMK
reactor EXPLODES!
Yeah ikr? That's why I combined those clips without any gap
@@siddhantnayak4540 olymoly
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Best line of the series: "Every lie we tell incurs a debt to the truth. Sooner or later that debt is paid."
Absolutely magnificent speech.
Jared Harris deserves an Emmy for this performance
HBO went from GOT season 8 dialogue to this, wow
So true
That's still relevant
"I was following orders"- the most dangerous words of all regimes
“A King may move a man, a father may claim a son, but remember that even when those who move you be Kings, or men of power, your soul is in your keeping alone. When you stand before God, you cannot say, "But I was told by others to do thus." Or that, "Virtue was not convenient at the time." This will not suffice.
Communism is evil
Good Soldiers Follow Orders
and it still happening in what we call "free country "
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"When the truth offends we lie and lie till we can no longer remember why it's even there"
I love that quote
The MAGA lifestyle today.
@@MusicAsWeMakeIt the CCP lifestyle too
@@MusicAsWeMakeItah yes, the lies of the MAGA crowd versus the paragons of truth and honesty of the left.
"One of the saddest lessons of history is this: if we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We're no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It's simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we've been taken."
-- Carl Sagan
@@MusicAsWeMakeIt *the leftard lifestyle
The most brilliant line in the series. All through the first and 2nd ep, people were asking “how does an RBMK reactor explode?” So finally in the end we learn the answer: Lies. It wrapped up the whole series. What a brilliantly done series this was. Jareds acting was spot on.
Just imagine living in a world where the judge threats you for pointing out the true.
What planet do you live on? All nations do this.
Snowden and Assange are totally terrified about that,luckily we all live in a just world
@@lrike2250 "luckily we all live in a just world" - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! Best I've heard all week.
Wait, you're not actually serious...are you?
Brazilian Justice System in a nutshell
We already do.
"You're treading on dangerous ground"
Says the man who didnt just spend months near an exposed reactor.
"Where I once would fear the cost of truth, now I only ask: What is the cost of lies?" Comrade Legasov, Chernobyl.
The reactor exploded because of communism. Its not the only terrible ideology. But it is one that is still sold to ignorant , impressionable semi adults as a viable option. Lies. Communism blew up that reactor because Communism causes poverty. An inviolate law of economics. Communism caused the explosion because the primary trade commodity that replaced income was appointing positions of power. Where rather than those most competent gaining positions of authority, it was those with the best political contacts that did. Because Socialism in any form breaks the feedback loop of effort->rewards->greater control over effort
Comred Gorbachev: "Soviet Union".
0:45 you know how out of touch and incompetent the judge is when he blindly tosses out that weak ass threat, for when the man has stood nearby an exposed reactor core emitting over 15k Roentgen per hour.
Jared Harris could be one of the most underrated actors of all time
He was incredible in "The Expanse" series. Whish his character had followed through the series.
Check out his series "Terror"
Its harrin time
@@jadenkhoohoukit4573 “stares in Jared Harris”
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"Every lie we tell incurs a debt to the truth. Sooner or later that debt is paid." This is the natural order of things, we must not think we would escape it.
Going on right now in Putin's Russia, lies about Ukraine "attacking Russia", about "de-nazification of Ukraine" etc. Putin lies like a rug.
1:28
Fomin can find some sleep now
"What is the cost of lies?" This is a direct and clear reference to Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn amazing "Live Not by Lies" the day he was arrested and exiled in 1974. In it he exhorts his fellow soviet citizens to no longer cooperate with the soviet regime's lies.
Good reference.
Chad Solzhenitsyn :
"You must understand. The leading Bolsheviks who took over Russia were not Russians. They hated Russians. They hated Christians. Driven by ethnic hatred they tortured and slaughtered millions of Russians without a shred of human remorse. The October Revolution was not what you call in America the "Russian Revolution." It was an invasion and conquest over the Russian people. More of my countrymen suffered horrific crimes at their bloodstained hands than any people or nation ever suffered in the entirety of human history. It cannot be understated. Bolshevism was the greatest human slaughter of all time. The fact that most of the world is ignorant of this reality is proof that the global media itself is in the hands of the perpetrators."
Dyatlov in his final years, truly felt guilt ridden about his part in all of it. He apparently had been haunted by it until his death.
Good.
Good? You do realize he was presented this way simply for the show? He wasnt nearly as evil as he is portrayed to be
@@hello7032 While it's true he had a very harsh style of leadership and made some terrible decisions, Dyatlov was far from the moronic, incompetent bully you see in the show. In fact, he realized quite early that he had misjudged the situation. He then attempted (in vain) to revoke previous orders, limit the damage and locate missing personnel until severe radiation poisoning caught up with him. During and after the trial, while Dyatlov did lie to protect himself, he also steadfastly defended the engineers present on the day of the accident.
The show is great overall, but when dealing with real people and events, there is a fine line between dramatization and outright misrepresentation. Not every story needs a mustache-twirling villain.
@@samg.5165 im not saying he was useless or incompetent, I think rather the opposite. Im a scientist myself(tho no where near that level or field) and ive encountered a fair few who are…lets say too smart for their own good and they forget ethical practice.
@@hello7032 how is that related to the subject?
The "S" in "RBMK" stands for "safe"
Haha good one
Dyatlov: '... i was in the toilet"
Legasov: ' and thát is how an RBMK-reactorcore explodes'
Chernobyl is a great series, but it doubles as a great work of horror, because it actually happened. It's not body horror, aliens, or Freddy Krueger. It's people, dancing around with the forces of creation.
Also by adding a bunch of lies which never happened.
It is an exceptional story made possible by an exceptional human experiment inflicted on people not by mad scientists, but by the human subjects of the experiment themselves. The communist system, that takes everything we know about human kind and flips it on its head, destroys every person and everything in its path: including even the planet itself. A system built on so many lies that they are too many to count and impossible to fix: the entire system imploded, as was its only possible outcome, from the very beginning.
@@andreilukyanov4286It's not a documental.
The scene with the badass general riding his lead plated truck past all the abandoned fire trucks etc was very eerie. Also the invisible death you know is everywhere around him is terrifying
@@svartvarg9778 You say that like it doesn't have a duty to represent the truth.
People will watch it and believe it is a documentary.
There was no reason to lie about what happened, to make the hero look like the villain and the villains look like heroes. The story was dramatic enough as it is. Of course it was. It was one of the most dramatic events in recent history.
But they lied anyway.
And if you don't find that unethical just because "it doesn't say it's a 100% true documentary" then you're a fool.
0:50 - 0:56
Really like fool he was at Chernobyl your pathetic threats don't scare him anymore. He knows he's already dead.
"Truth is the enemy of happiness. But that doesn't mean that lies are your allies."
Sadly, almost nothing has changed in Russian thinking. Lies are still the norm, obfuscation the automatic reaction, cover up the standard procedure.
The show wasn’t about just the Russian way of thinking. Given the amount of bull on everything we’ve seen in the past three years from all over the world, I’d say nothing changed anywhere. That’s what makes this speech so poignant.
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Have you ever see "biochemical weapon" in Iraq that captured by American? No?
Nothing has changed in America either. Lies and stupidity keep rising
Like the USA
Are you watching the UK Post Office Horizon hearings ?
What I love most about this speech “our secrets and our lies are practically what define us. When the truth offends we lie until we can no longer remember it is even there” eerily similar to how my bro described Death of Stalin to me. Lies, coverups, corruption, mass executions. Soviet culture really was something else
America in a nutshell sadly. Fact checking a grade 9 US history textbook is rather enlightening however, when you get to the grade 12 book, your jaw will drop.
I don't know about Foundation but Harris was superb in both Chernobyl and The Terror. Both are excellent series, must-see viewing.
just recently watched the terror and was pleasantly surprised to see him in it. i agree both are fantastic and well worth a watch.
I loved his Moriarty in Sherlock Holmes - Game of Shadows
@@PV1230 oh yes, forgot about that! Also great.
"What did you do??!!"
This show is too good
It's a true story .. This actually happened to our Earth .. my stepmom and dad both died of cancer a few months ago in 2019!
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@@MisTracy39TheVeganLady im sorry for your loss.
Truth costs, lies collapse - always and everywhere.
Absolutely one of the very best films and a must watch! Everything was just perfect. I’ve been to Pripyat and seen the reactor. This is what it felt like.
Technically it's a series but I know what you mean, the soundtrack also did an amazing job conveying the eerie feeling of a nuclear Desaster
@@Frk_X Mechanically they are a successive moving visual images but I know what you mean...
"Every lie we tell incurs a debt to the truth. Sooner or later that debt is paid. That is how an RBMK reactor core explodes"
An astounding and chilling view of the reality that is Chernobyl. When it was revealed that the molten radioactive core would explode once it reached the water below it, it was a "Holy Shit" moment as I watched the miniseries. It could have be so much worse.
I told a 20 year old girl at work about the show. So she watched it and we were talking about it. Her face when I point out that they never removed the core, it is still just sitting right where it was.
It all started because we were talking about horror movies. I said horror movies don't scare me but Chernobyl did.
@@Elthenar It's not "Just sitting there." Hundreds of lies and thousands upon thousands of labour hours have gone into keeping it safe-in-place because moving it is impossible, you do a disservice to the men and women all around the globe who recovered us from the brink of disaster, many at the cost of their own lives, to talk so glibly about the state of the reactor.
0:23 from warden of the north to military official, Roose Bolton 👏🏽👏🏽
Ur right wtf xdxd
He just described what’s happening in the world today
And it was designed this way.
look who actually won ww2 to understand why
@@TheBelrick I give up. Who?
"Every lie we tell incurs a debt to the truth. Sooner or later, the debt is paid". I'm stealing this.. very very true
Nice touch there with metaphor of Red(danger) colour representing lies built up in endless cycle that caused explosion.. while Blue(representative of peace) tiles are all gone ❤😂
Didn’t know King George VI was at Chernobyl 😂
One of the most unfortunate things about this whole sequence is you know once Legasov basically called out that the Soviet system had some very severe flaws, and of course, the whole lying thing you know I think he knew that he had essentially just committed a form of suicide.
The sad thing, though is the fact that this is not a new thing and unfortunately, it’s still exists. In China, even making an off-color joke can pretty much land you in a very similar situation. And trying to call out the flaws in the government system will likely result in you being sent to the Gobi desert or something.
"We're dealing with something that has never occurred before in the history of mankind"
What does THIS remind me of? Somewhere close to past, current events.
this is a great movie....if you have not seen it you should.
As a plumber, how many lies do we gotta say its calcium buildup, but the plumbing needs to be reworked. That is how we got a flooding
It's now 2022 . . . lots of lies have been told and the debt has not yet been paid.
"If you mean to suggest the Soviet state is somehow responsible for what happened..."
Well, what is the state? It's people. Bryukhanov, Fomin, Dyatlov, they were all part of "the state" not long ago, and they certainly messed up. Higher up, others messed up as well.
“…take him outside for a smoke.”
Soviet solutions until Gorbachev
Those 3 were key-figures in the Disaster yes, but as Legasov clearly states: Not even those highly-ranked executives were aware of the designflaw in RBMK-reactors with AZ5, and xenon-saturation!
There was a report on it, from a similar RBMK-reactor in Kallingrad, which also reported a huge powersurge, under slightly less pressing circumstances: A clear indication that there was a dangerous design-error there... yet this report was held back by 'the Communist Party'... presumably the KGB? Because admitting such a dangerous flaw in their prestigious Nuclear Reactors, and having to make adjustments, would make the Communist Party look stupid and weak!
This series was truly amazing. God bless the Ukrainians and Russians who lost their lives, most unnecessarily. Their political system and it's workings jeopardized not only the welfare of their own people, but everyone in the world. True heros were lost and will never be forgotten
"You're suggesting he humiliate a nation that is obsessed with not being humiliated."
Sadly, the lies about Chernobyl continue to this day
"These are the roots of our world. Men are props on the stage of life, and no matter how tender, how exquisite... A lie will remain a lie... Young Hollow, knowing this, do you still desire peace?"
- DS2 Lord Aldia - Scholar of the First Sin DLC
The atrocities committed in the guides of "I was fallowing orders " have changed the world for the worse
I think you should add some more words to the description, there are too few.
"Thou shalt not bear false witness."
God bless and protect those brave enough to tell the truth.
"If we hear enough lies, we no longer recognize the truth at all"
American politics 2022
Or maybe our BS sensors get even better. I think mine did during covid.
He should have said this is another stain on Gorbachev’s head.
What'd I miss, I was in the toilet with comrad Dyatlov.😆
1989 debt is paid
"If the truth offends, we lie and lie untill we no can no longer remember it is there. But it is...stíll there!
Every lie we tell, incurs a debt to the truth. Sooner or later, that debt is paid"
Such a good statement, and só fitting even, or especially in the world we live in today.
(HBO's)Chernobyl is a masterclass-example of whát can go so devastatingly wrong, if too few people, hold too much influence and power, to the point they can just censor the truth, because it offend, and publish the sweet lies.
A mentality that Putin's inner circle clearly still hold. They don't even bother to come up with believable lies.
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Love me some Moriarty
Very applicable to coronavirus situation in india.
sadly, still applicable, man. :(
you cant lie about physics it will cacth up eventually.
Almost exactly what the Russian orcs are currently doing, they learned nothing
It's incredible how you can watch this show and make the takeaway "I see... the message is russians are dumb and the ussr sucked....."
You are beyond saving at this level of retardation.
1:03 to 1:11 is pretty much how I feel about the U.S. at this point.
Yup exactly. In the next scene the head of KGB (who protects truth from getting out) questioned if he was lying by saying the other two weren’t involved in bringing out the truth. This must have been a rotten time and place to live in. But as you said, it describes these times. It is virtuous to some to call someone a liar rather than just disagree with them, or request hyperlinks for proof.
1:40 scares the hell out of me in 2024. Disinformation is slowly decaying us as the human race as a whole
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Lord Bolton????
I remember the latter to America
0:23 is that Roose Bolton?
He loves playing higher officials🙂
An absolute Masterpiece of a TV series!
watched a superman fan film.........there was a small part..........."secrets have a cost"...........
Anderson Dawes is an excellent actor.
Imagine if the country actually take the responsibility and ask fr help... Imagine how many people cld hv been saved...
In reality the Soviet response was impressively fast, but as it was said in the show they were dealing with something no one had ever dealt with before.
community quarantine brought me here
Lol, me too
Sometimes you just need to ask, where was the KGB during all this? Would they have just crashed through the door, shut down the broadcast and executed almost everyone in the room and then put up some cover story justifying their actions?
They would have done that if they could. But they couldn't get away with blatantly massacring all those international scientists and journalists. Which is exactly why Legasov chose to reveal the truth there.
At that point it wouldn't have made a difference because the USSR couldn't hide what happened at Chernobyl or how bad it truly was anymore.
They didnt have to, everyone in that court room was either loyal to the state or paid off. The court does nothing after this speech, and nothing he says ever sees the light of day until he finally leaves all his voice recordings in a dead drop and then hangs himself which is where the opening scene of the show starts lol
This was the 80s not the 20s
Essentially they were on camera. Like a previous comment said it wasn’t the 20s, or even the 60s anymore. The USSR was trying to look appealing to the World and it was growing increasingly difficult and now a Nuclear reactor worse than 100x the nuclear bombs dropped in WW2 just exploded under their watch…
Now imagine if everyone in the room gets shot before it cuts out. Do you honestly think the West would just let it slide this time? Hell no if the KGB couldn’t handle this situation (without murdering their staff) then the USSR was too unstable to be trusted with Nuclear Reactors. Yep WW3, thanks to incompetence for a test, and a following Trial.
This thing about concealing certain truths doesn't sound overly uncommon - I mean, most businesses do the same thing in varying degrees. But the idea of state control restricting certain things doesn't sound too dissimilar to what's happening all over western democracies right now, with all sorts of bullshit restrictions about what we can and cannot say, or believe. So, now it's our turn..
when something that's good goes on being good for too long, often the people making the good things happen forget the pain needed the make those good things, so when that pain comes back for them to deal with again, many will find it easier to ignore it rather than to keep their good thing going, even if it's being rotted away by the pain.
The Soviets, russians, even different political parties of America being brought up in the comments, everyone lies to keep whats good if they think they can get away with it, just a fact of history at this point. Dunno what to do about it, but the fingers being pointed at every group is both funny and depressing to me
And that’s the truth of it, it’s not a partisan issue. This isn’t the inevitability of leftist ideals, or the final goal of right-wingers. It’s just poor management from politicians and corruption of power at work.
Lies become us.
You know you f*cked up when you're worse than Homer Simpson
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Lies.....
the USSR was exactly like the book 1984
And Usa is like the book Brave New World
The un nuked it
True, and soon or later Part 2: the Ukraine barrage disaster of more Russian lie because they can't stop.
Such a shame that Jared Harris did not win the Emmy for this role. He was robbed because the powers that be wanted to do some affirmative action.
Powerful scene. Never happened.
Yes it did
@@FlyingPaladin it 100% did not, and you don't have to know much about the actual events to know this didn't happen. The director himself said as much. The TRIAL did happen, but this monologue most certainly did not. There is no way something like this would be said on record.
@@michaelleskauskas3645 That is why its a TVshow, and not a documentairy.
You wanna argue on how The Bold and the Beautiful never happened, or Star Wars? ....or Harry Potter?
This TV-show used the historical material to make an entertaining TV-show and they succeeded with flying colors! Good writing and script, good casting, good scenes and shots.
its for a good reason that Stellan Skarsgard and Jared Harris received an Emmy for their performance in this show.
How many movies or TV-shows were made about WW-II? Did éverything in thise productions, actually, and word for word, HAPPEN???
This didn't age well.
On the contrary... it is a prescient message for all who support socialists, or democrats, or liberal progressives... they are all liars, and are doing what the elites in Russia did from the 1920s on... they did whatever was required to maintain power, no matter the cost.
Actually this has aged well..nothings changed the lies have only grown in Russia
Why?
@@SS-yr3ijknew a kid from Russia when I was in university, he confirmed every very obvious thing you said. Nothing changed in Russia, if you have an ex-KGB agent in charge and his staff is full of ex-KGB agents? Yeah you just have the KGB still in charge.
So what I understand the test parameters were put in design specifically to use reactor as a nuclear if needed then why didn't KGB put somewhere in manual that please don't test run with these parameters or if the reactors were unsafe at the first place then should have included some extra safety precaution or atleast let the only reactor managing team head know that this reactor can blow up anytime so go easy.
the issue was the rods. they could have easily changed the rods and say it was an 'upgrade' but the issue is was image. the image of the Soviet Union was paramount to them.
The one thing I took from this fantastic series, is that communism was the true villain. All of the ineptitude, and all of the time wasted trying to find out who to blame, was thanks to a communist regime.
Probably why, despite its quality, this show was made to begin with. To brainwash you into thinking communism is the enemy, when it never actually existed in the Soviet Union to begin with.
Ironically, an entirely made up speech in a shallow and politically motivated miniseries, and a message that can be used to justify any opinion, ideology or cause. As seen in the comments here.
Shut up you Soviet agent
don’t worry kid I’m sure the daily wire will make a non-woke chernobyl show with kevin sorbo and jordan peterson and it’ll be hella epic!!!
JFC this guy votes.
The Soviets fucked up and lied like crazy....as usual
Think COVID
I loved this show at first but I’m increasingly realizing how inaccurate it is
It’s an excellent show in portraying Soviet socialism.
The world of today is like 1980s Soviet russia but 10 times as bad. We're at the end of a civilization and this speech fits to the world today.
Something my Dad and others have pointed out was that as soon as we stopped fighting the Russians in the Cold War (I know we didn’t fight them directly, their weapons were usually used) the Left ramped up their bs. It was like the Romans beating the Carthaginians: no moral high ground leads to decadence
The Chineese HAVE TO see this
Sadly the Chinese could loose half its population and it would most likely see that as a good thing. SMH 🤦
They see it there gonna call it western propaganda 😂
@@vicgotjuice6739 Too bad this wasn't made in Russian. The Chineese don't consider Russia to be a Western country (and rightfully so)
Makers of this series love truth so much that they made Legasov say stuff he probably never said during the proceedings.
I can’t imagine someone at the Soviet court would stand up and start saying some moralizing Jesus mumbo jumbo. He would probably be stopped by: « Citizen Legasov, let’s keep the lyricism for another time and get to the technical details. »
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Israel right now
Why couldn't they find some actors who actually sound like Russians and Ukrainians instead of UK actors?
As if your average western viewer could recognize the difference between Ukrainian and Russian.
Because to the western ear - the audience the film was made for - it would sound like Boris and Natasha.
@@jkorshak More likely just a case of laziness.
@@ericfermin8347 Not at all. A case of creating an engaging story which would resonate with its target audience.
see what can happen kids when you vote democrat
Like Trump and his cult… Lies…
You're delusional... go to the infirmary.
Show me on the doll where the orange man hurt you
The dems lie too. The only difference is they smile while they do it and tell you everything is going to be OK. Kind of like the Soviet government in this movie.
Projecting your sides lies on to others only reveals just how corrupt you are.
Still waiting on Trumpanzees to be held responsible for their failed coup.
Maybe you might win in 2024. I hope you get exactly what you want... as we face the prospect of another Russian madman threatening to push the button. Do you think a loose cannon like Trump is what this country needs?
*1:42* And now it is effectively illegal to publicly state that "transgender" men are not women.
He might as well be speaking about wokeism these days.
Perfect example for trump presidency and crazy theories
You blame Trump, but the world's economy didn't go to shit until Biden was installed. You are as ignorant and self-absorbed as the Russians who allowed Chernobyl to happen.
What?
His speech reminds me the delusional state of israel 😂
Trump needs to watch this and learn, but he won't, and neither will his followers.
It's funny, because when I watch this show it reminds me of how dangerous the left is, not to mention socialism
What you have against Trump?
@Jesus Christ Chernobyl isn't inaccurate though. P.s - Don't fight me I'm a right winger too
Y'all wanna know why people hate Trump and other republicans? Because they blatantly tell the truth and facts. Which is ironic in this scenario as it's about lies constructed by ussr gov for their own safeguard.
I'll answer you with a movie quote that fits ALL leaders well-
"I'm a politician , so I'm a liar and a cheat. So that means while I'm kissing babies I'm stealing their lollipops"
From the hunt for Red October
Sounds like modern woke west
Remember this principle when someone tells you a person with a male body can be a woman. Every lie incurs a debt to the truth.
Had to bring some sort of transphobia in some form to a completely unrelated video
@@jabler3529 Identity politics is just the basic idea of Marxism across multiple classes. The claim that a trans person's problems is other people not accepting their beliefs is just the age old oppressor narrative retold with different characters, and it's just as wrong in that story as it was with the bourgeois and the Jews. When you say that telling the truth is hate, you are exactly the kind of person who created this disaster. Nothing unrelated about recycling the Marxist ideology; it will have all the same effects as it did before.
@@jabler3529But it is a lie, isn't it?
Not really :)@@AidanMclaren
And my response is: "I don't really give a sh*t what people call themselves and how they present themselves"... Why is *THAT* not an option in your world?
This is a lesson for the woke amongst us.