This guy is at the avant-garde of his field, really. We need standardisation of this kind in our field (programming - testing), because, art the human scale, it is really a new thing. We are constantly uncovering rules, good practices, patterns, standards, definitions, etc... every time, incrementally.
Useful talk I’ve never worked at a place that does any testing like Gojko described I’m thinking that 80% of the software industry is running on cargo cult concepts and surface minimal understanding and wonder why their projects are late or canceled
@@seikojin Is there any literature etc you'd recommend? I'm kinda pondering on testability and automation, and I'm not aware of QA side of things and what kinda stuff exists there. Don't want to needlessly reinvent the wheel
@@gJonii There are some classics in the field. Testing Computer Software (mainly by Cem Kaner) & The Pragmatic Programmer from Andrew Hunt. These will help a lot in getting some big picture concepts rooted as well as synergizing roles as a test person and developer person. Most orgs want SDETs, so getting as much coverage on both sides of the fence will help. From there, I would look into the Karate Framework for automation for most things, and python and javascript if you really need something outside of that.
This gets very difficult for testing UI that involves user input, like text input. Perhaps a combination of these human-in-the-loop snapshot tests and traditional selenium based tests would complement each other in a test suite.
This guy is at the avant-garde of his field, really.
We need standardisation of this kind in our field (programming - testing), because, art the human scale, it is really a new thing.
We are constantly uncovering rules, good practices, patterns, standards, definitions, etc... every time, incrementally.
Useful talk
I’ve never worked at a place that does any testing like Gojko described
I’m thinking that 80% of the software industry is running on cargo cult concepts and surface minimal understanding and wonder why their projects are late or canceled
I wish the audio quality was better though, but interesting presentation.
Same, the audio hurts my ears when listening with headphones.
Very interesting idea.
Just a little shocked that this is all new/innovative. Seemed like common sense to me (been QA for 20+ years)
Was this new to you?
@@gJonii No, far from it.
@@seikojin Is there any literature etc you'd recommend? I'm kinda pondering on testability and automation, and I'm not aware of QA side of things and what kinda stuff exists there. Don't want to needlessly reinvent the wheel
@@gJonii There are some classics in the field. Testing Computer Software (mainly by Cem Kaner) & The Pragmatic Programmer from Andrew Hunt. These will help a lot in getting some big picture concepts rooted as well as synergizing roles as a test person and developer person. Most orgs want SDETs, so getting as much coverage on both sides of the fence will help. From there, I would look into the Karate Framework for automation for most things, and python and javascript if you really need something outside of that.
This gets very difficult for testing UI that involves user input, like text input.
Perhaps a combination of these human-in-the-loop snapshot tests and traditional selenium based tests would complement each other in a test suite.
This is stick how do you become of this video