WHY ARE YOU CONCERNED OF PEOPLE WIELDING EMPTY GUNS??? WE'LL NEVER GO BACK TO THE PAST... PEOPLE LIVING IN THE PAST ARE FOOLS... DON'T BE ONE OF THEM... YOU CAN'T STOP A DOG FROM BARKING AT YOU BUT YOU CAN STOP IT FROM BITING YOU... WISE UP! 😂
The ANC is in power and hold the laws about the apartheid flag not Zille . If I shoot a person it is not black people who shoot but myself alone .So learn to address people by name not just white .Like now you address Zille instead of addressing the people who did that .Zille is not white people she is Zille .
But why the Boers still maintain the apartheid flag, that is undermining the rules of the country.We black people never enjoyed nothing related to the Boers flag,it only remaind us how brutality they were against the black soul.
Zuma is so smart. He made everybody believes that they was the only one who knows about the formation of the MK. That what he also told me that I was the only one who knew. I'm surprised that he said the very same thing to all of us😂😂😂. The guy is a genius😂😂
I believe Dali. Zuma operates on another level. So rather the gentleman should have said ....."I'm not aware of that, but I also played a similar role "
The mighty EFF will be still standing after they all gone. You see Mr Julius Malema is a very strong and principled leader. This proferts of doom who say the mighty EFF is dieying are dead wrong.
Eff is for youth who doesn't understands politics strategy. Zuma never say a word about Malema though he knew Malema was used be a no1 on Zuma must fall. The big politicians who understand being party leadership not about pointing fingers especially when you know u r unshaken unless u r a flip flop. My opinion
Both versions may be true, we talking JZ here. He clearly may have been engaging different people and elevating their ego’s “between you and me”. Lest we not be surprised if someone else will come out “It was only JZ and I”.
What he says is in line with what Floyd and Dali said after joining the MK Party. He is also consistent with Malema's response to Dali's departure. But he sounds a bit self-involved.
Is it not obvious that all politicians are liars? I mean one has to be naive or foolish to believe politicians. This is just a game, unfortunately one that decides on fundamental socio-economic policies. Unfortunately we must choose among them in elections
Understand what intelligence and underground work is. At some point no one should know who is talking with who… So what you are trying to conclude may not be an easy terrain…
But this guy still says Mpofu was involved. As to if he knew that Mpofu was planning it with Zuma before is only what Zuma and Mpofu can attest. He wouldn't have known nothing because Mpofu was already Zuma's lawyer.
Whats false about that coz even in a podcast yesterday Malema said that Dali Mpofu last year came with the proposal to close the eff to form a party led by zuma..where did adv Mpofu get the document that he presented?@tizscki
@tizscki I think you should restart this clip and listen word for word to how Tshidi phrased her question and then contrast what she said against what Dali said. Yes, Dali did, in fact, say what you quoted him as saying (but in context), and what Tshidi is saying would have been correct if Dali had not, in the same context, concede that Zuma might have spoken with some other people.
But honestly Julius must self introspect before he is left with nothing because it cannot be that all these people are simply finding it easy to just jump his ship
I attacked julius as well but now im realising that julius is not the problem...julius is exactly where he needs to be....the mk will implode eventually..
THE DUDE HAS JUST RESIGNED AS THE NATIONAL ORGANIZER OF MKP AND NOW HE COMES ON 702 TO TELL US DALI MPOFU IS LYING? HE WANT US TO TRUST HIM OVER DALI MPOFU? HE MUST FOKOF! ASIMAZI B4 MK BUT DALI MPOFU & ZUMA WE KNOW B4 MK. I CHOOSE TO BELIEVE DALI MPOFU
Dikgang tsotlhe tsa ga Sello di simolotse fa a simolola go nwa beine le go ja le Dali. Sello o ne a tsaya Dali ka helikopotara go ya kwa go Zuma. Ka nako eo Dali o ne a na le kgetsana e e borokwa e a neng a e neela lekgoba go tswa go basha ba EFF leswafi le tall. Rotlhe re itse gore go isa beke kwa go Zuma go raya eng
This thing of black political parties isn't going to work at all it's a waste of time, there's is a multiple leadership within this Mk project, it seems as if these people are all out in the name of mk project building the kingdom of Nkandla asizi people will come back to the ANC le imbiza yase Nkandla ayizivuthwa
Mathata ke gore batho gaba itse Mcdonald, now bata dumela Dali ka gore ba tshela ba mmona ana le Zuma,sa bobedi why batho ba ba simolotseng MK ba kubiwa??
Precisely. So this Mathabe is wasting his breath. I don't believe him. He seems to be an amateur politician. Dali and Zuma are seasoned. What if Zuma told Dali about the project b4 him
Political activity is not banned anymore in SA, is all this underground cloak and dagger activity still necessary? Is it really what SA needs to move forward?
@SiyaLanga that is supposed to trust who? Some of these things are by choice. Can u trust Zille, can u trust Ramaphosa, can u trust Malema etc. If u feel u nid to trust someone in order to vote them, if u don't trust them, then don't
Too many lies and conspiracies with this MK. At the launch, Zuma himself said he didnt form it, gwiqiqi he's revealed as the "owner" and founder. Ay! Will we ever know WTF this MK thing is
That's politics. U hv to accept that. Remember Zuma is an intelligence person. There are many things that are said about him on which he'll never give an answer
This guy is a fucking smooth lair... We know the believes and views of president Zuma when it comes to the EFF. whether you were on the picture or not...president Zuma was not going to endorse or even join the EFF. 🤣Not that he was convinced by you. My God,🤣this guy...
(Tsidi)😂my sister if I ask porsonal 4rm u do u see yur self as a true journalist because u don't focus on questions fixing our country.... All the years yur questions are captured journalist or gossip 😅😅
702 please get zille to tell us about white people who brandished apartheid flag in their presence..that is important to the country not Dali mpofu
WHY ARE YOU CONCERNED OF PEOPLE WIELDING EMPTY GUNS??? WE'LL NEVER GO BACK TO THE PAST... PEOPLE LIVING IN THE PAST ARE FOOLS... DON'T BE ONE OF THEM... YOU CAN'T STOP A DOG FROM BARKING AT YOU BUT YOU CAN STOP IT FROM BITING YOU... WISE UP! 😂
They told that person to leave. Afriforum and Solidarity said so.
The person was asked to leave as it wasn't in line with what they were marching against.
The ANC is in power and hold the laws about the apartheid flag not Zille . If I shoot a person it is not black people who shoot but myself alone .So learn to address people by name not just white .Like now you address Zille instead of addressing the people who did that .Zille is not white people she is Zille .
But why the Boers still maintain the apartheid flag, that is undermining the rules of the country.We black people never enjoyed nothing related to the Boers flag,it only remaind us how brutality they were against the black soul.
This party was formed underground,There might be lot of people involved even in the ANC
what is so difficult for people to understand?
True
Black people are accustomed to reporting to WMC every plan they have like the anc
Of course majority of those involved are those who used to divide the ANC
Great analysis.👍
Zuma is so smart. He made everybody believes that they was the only one who knows about the formation of the MK. That what he also told me that I was the only one who knew. I'm surprised that he said the very same thing to all of us😂😂😂. The guy is a genius😂😂
crook more like it
That's the political underground strategy to make everyone to keep the secret
😂😂😂fr
He made his Tribble to believe him
When it comes to politics no one comes close to President Zuma
The fact that he is former is enough to contextualise this guy's views
Politicians and journalists are same. They have a particular narrative that they push.
Call Zille and ask her about Orania and Afrikaans.
To hell with mpofu and his Gupta party
This guy was played by Zuma, the master chess player. What Mpofu said was corroborated by Julius.
Exactly… this guy doesn’t know anything about what was going on underground. He was just an errands boy
@@RazzMatazz-g8o master chess player he lost to a 10 year old kid
He only knows what Zuma wanted him to know
Tshidi is journalist Guru, she's always 99.99/ correct with analysis
Tshidi is one of the best ❤❤❤❤
but Julius confirm it
crap
EFF is the only vehicle for economic freedom in our life time
Eff is dying 9% is not child's play😂😂😂😂😂
They are the vehicle that people use to leave🤣🤣🤣. Economic freedom. People are receiving freedom from leaving EFF, what are you saying🤣🤣
@@oupanyama2653We are manifesting 3%😏
By stealing from gogos you give them financial freedom?
@@OasisSilvaMillion
I believe Dali. Zuma operates on another level.
So rather the gentleman should have said ....."I'm not aware of that, but I also played a similar role "
He just gets the credit he’s not the brains here those people used him because he was a wounded tiger here and a populist to his people
Invite Gayton MacKenzie and interview him about the PA Ministers removal from parliament
Tshidi is the biggest journalist in soutj africa in every sense of the word
😂😂😂
Of course it was an underground operation, something he wouldn't know. Zuma is a seasoned politician. Come on now, are we that stupid not to know?
The story is the same with what Malema said...
Don't work with people who are gonna sell you out after they get mad. Let them have the testicular fortitude to confront you
Why is so important to know who knew who didn't knew about establishment MKP
Because we need to know exactly what a liar Mpofu is.
@@AnneliedeWetbut Juju said Dali knew. So what are you disputing?
Both tsotsi party's
😂😂😂😂 If there's anything Zuma is at the center of both claims,
Call Zuma to come clean up the claims
Amaxoki wonke one side where they belong to Mkhonto wesinka
This man should not have said he's the one but should have said I'm also one of those who knew about the formation of MK in its inception
The mighty EFF will be still standing after they all gone. You see Mr Julius Malema is a very strong and principled leader. This proferts of doom who say the mighty EFF is dieying are dead wrong.
I enjoyed Tshidi as a stand in yesterday
Eff is for youth who doesn't understands politics strategy. Zuma never say a word about Malema though he knew Malema was used be a no1 on Zuma must fall. The big politicians who understand being party leadership not about pointing fingers especially when you know u r unshaken unless u r a flip flop. My opinion
You really know politics, I applaud you
What kind of mind is that
You are such a great thinker my dear brother.
Both versions may be true, we talking JZ here. He clearly may have been engaging different people and elevating their ego’s “between you and me”. Lest we not be surprised if someone else will come out “It was only JZ and I”.
Why do you say so coz Malema has confirmed it
Best journalist in SA, Tshidi.
Nooooo she is to bais
Tshidi sounds like a hater alot of the time 😂
They hate black politicians..they say nothing about ff+ and DA with apartheid flags
she is always
😅😅😅journalists always push their own narrative 😅😅. Don't ever trust either politician or journalists 😅
this confirms the truth in what Dali said....at first it was dali n zuma who knew
So mpofu said he was involved in the process manje what is the big deal ayi suka niyathanda nhe ukukhuluma
nami i dont know whats the fuss about that
They trying to hijack MK as a EFF brain child... They lie.
Whether or not he was involved it's none of our business
Anytime to discredit Zuma
What he says is in line with what Floyd and Dali said after joining the MK Party. He is also consistent with Malema's response to Dali's departure. But he sounds a bit self-involved.
McDonald's is lying. We are believe commander Mpofu
Is it not obvious that all politicians are liars? I mean one has to be naive or foolish to believe politicians. This is just a game, unfortunately one that decides on fundamental socio-economic policies. Unfortunately we must choose among them in elections
Ho to the next hell!!
McDonald Mathabe sounds much more humble and credible than serial liar Mpofu.
Yo opinion
The Zulu only party will feature nowhere else other than natal
Tsidi! Julius is a younger version of Lekota. “Bambhelela”!!!
Whether on his low and high Malema is influential and headlines to South Africa politics. You cannot mention SA Politics without Malema
Malema has confirmed it so pelase😂😂😂😂😂
Who is paying polical journalists?
Madia ❤
When you journalists and reporters going to make the same noise as you do around MK and EFF on the Zondo commission scam????????
Understand what intelligence and underground work is. At some point no one should know who is talking with who… So what you are trying to conclude may not be an easy terrain…
Where was Hlope durring the formation?
No where to be found
Marshall Dlamini was there
But this guy still says Mpofu was involved. As to if he knew that Mpofu was planning it with Zuma before is only what Zuma and Mpofu can attest. He wouldn't have known nothing because Mpofu was already Zuma's lawyer.
You wouldn't know, you were not involved 😂
In the most recent interview with Juju, he met with JZ before formation of mk himself
Okay...and then what?
This guy is refute not what Mpofu said 😂😂😂😂.
McDonald's logic is disappointing for someone who preaches unity of all black political parties
Tshidi's comments about what Dali said are misleading. He did concede that Zuma might have consulted with other people.
No, Tshidi is correct. Mpofu said, "At some stage it was only him and Zuma who knew about the plan."
Whats false about that coz even in a podcast yesterday Malema said that Dali Mpofu last year came with the proposal to close the eff to form a party led by zuma..where did adv Mpofu get the document that he presented?@tizscki
@tizscki I think you should restart this clip and listen word for word to how Tshidi phrased her question and then contrast what she said against what Dali said. Yes, Dali did, in fact, say what you quoted him as saying (but in context), and what Tshidi is saying would have been correct if Dali had not, in the same context, concede that Zuma might have spoken with some other people.
Juju will returned to the weakening ANC on conditions he becomes deputy president of the organisation with prospects of being country president.
Zuma don't need lieying ppl misleading ppl in the organization. Zuma focus only to ANC of ramaphosa not EFF. No retreat in Mkp
This guy you have called is a baby in politics.
l believe Dali Mpofu😂😂😂
Really MKPis criminal syndicate as as Malema characterized it.
Mathabe is a former. Why did he leave MK
How can you guys interview a former or so called national organiser without contacting Mr Ndhlela the MK spokesperson? 🤷🏽♂️
This is nonsensically 🚮🚮🚮
You're misleading my lady. The recent SG was not booted and you know that. But ke you have to sing for your supper I guess
Keep believing your overlords.
@ramasodimalete2699 nowe kholqa yilokho okukwenza ulale kancono ebusuku marete
But honestly Julius must self introspect before he is left with nothing because it cannot be that all these people are simply finding it easy to just jump his ship
I attacked julius as well but now im realising that julius is not the problem...julius is exactly where he needs to be....the mk will implode eventually..
Is it not bad to be in 1 party while u working underground with another party😢😢😢
"we need to correct what needs to be corrected and go back to the ANC"
Looks very messy, so who is leading MK? A whole lot of opportunists in waiting
Dam this lady is so big yohh😢
A o tlhabisa mmele ditlhong.🤔Go tlhokega mmele o mogolo go tshwara tlhaloganyo e kgolo jaana😂
@@Papito_ZA
Fantastic journalist, the best in SA
@@AnneliedeWet I dig her too, large personality and great at her job-my brother didn't take that away from her with his yohh 😂
Mk's eating EFF's cake after they baked it.😅
This guy, so even Malema is lying
Dont tell me by now you dont know Malema is a liar
THE DUDE HAS JUST RESIGNED AS THE NATIONAL ORGANIZER OF MKP AND NOW HE COMES ON 702 TO TELL US DALI MPOFU IS LYING? HE WANT US TO TRUST HIM OVER DALI MPOFU? HE MUST FOKOF! ASIMAZI B4 MK BUT DALI MPOFU & ZUMA WE KNOW B4 MK. I CHOOSE TO BELIEVE DALI MPOFU
I was wondering too, where was Khumalo, because he also claims, He was the first too🙈
😂😂😂😂😂😂
With Zuma, the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing
These are haters... What good can come from a booted member? Its a good thing they are out,
Ur saying Mathabe was Mk national organiser. When did MK start having structures? This man is an imposter. Lingazobeda lana
So lets see if the criminal syndicate .. i presume the zuma clan .. take julius to court to 'clean' their name 😂😂😂
Dikgang tsotlhe tsa ga Sello di simolotse fa a simolola go nwa beine le go ja le Dali. Sello o ne a tsaya Dali ka helikopotara go ya kwa go Zuma. Ka nako eo Dali o ne a na le kgetsana e e borokwa e a neng a e neela lekgoba go tswa go basha ba EFF leswafi le tall. Rotlhe re itse gore go isa beke kwa go Zuma go raya eng
😂😂😂
@gago-fj7hu strusbob..
Your speaker is not telling the truth or if not is sick
This thing of black political parties isn't going to work at all it's a waste of time, there's is a multiple leadership within this Mk project, it seems as if these people are all out in the name of mk project building the kingdom of Nkandla asizi people will come back to the ANC le imbiza yase Nkandla ayizivuthwa
Mathabe doesnt make sense
Kumnandi everyone I started this I was this I was that
& so Zuma's gona play them all!!!
But Death will soon play Zuma..then what will happen to mk party?
@fin2643 he's empowered his daughter who cannot speak Zulu due to apartheid & then to add insult to injury; Floydd whip Malema.
If Julius goes into farming, he's gonna have to 💀 himself 😂
Mathata ke gore batho gaba itse Mcdonald, now bata dumela Dali ka gore ba tshela ba mmona ana le Zuma,sa bobedi why batho ba ba simolotseng MK ba kubiwa??
Precisely. So this Mathabe is wasting his breath. I don't believe him. He seems to be an amateur politician. Dali and Zuma are seasoned. What if Zuma told Dali about the project b4 him
Someone fix her headphones next time 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
She knows what she's doing. It's a dj thing they like to have the headphones on one ear and off the other.
You never match JZ this guy is lying
Awunamqondo ukube umane wathula. U Zuma is close to Mpofu, Malema and Shivambu long time ago. During Anc Youth League
Are politics its boring petty stomach politics
Political activity is not banned anymore in SA, is all this underground cloak and dagger activity still necessary? Is it really what SA needs to move forward?
It's necessary with Zuma. His enemies WMC, mainstream media and DA hate the ground where Zuma walks on. They'd devise a way to destroy him
@JabulaniMathuthu what about the general public that needs to trust him though
@SiyaLanga that is supposed to trust who? Some of these things are by choice. Can u trust Zille, can u trust Ramaphosa, can u trust Malema etc. If u feel u nid to trust someone in order to vote them, if u don't trust them, then don't
Dali mpofu never said that he was involved only himself but said that progressives met and he chaired a meeting. Spreading lies as usual
On a serious note anc and eff must just come together because they are the same thing,i really don't trust former president zuma 😢
ZOEMA CHOELD BE IN JAIL
Too many lies and conspiracies with this MK. At the launch, Zuma himself said he didnt form it, gwiqiqi he's revealed as the "owner" and founder. Ay! Will we ever know WTF this MK thing is
That's politics. U hv to accept that. Remember Zuma is an intelligence person. There are many things that are said about him on which he'll never give an answer
Unjani cc wami 🎉 cela your email cz I love you
TH-cam pay you to be against mk party
Why now arguing with useless things
This guy is a fucking smooth lair... We know the believes and views of president Zuma when it comes to the EFF. whether you were on the picture or not...president Zuma was not going to endorse or even join the EFF. 🤣Not that he was convinced by you. My God,🤣this guy...
Another Jabulani Khumalo
absolute rubbish, your guy is just talking nonsense, Zuma made this guy believe he was the only one who knew 🤣🤣
(Tsidi)😂my sister if I ask porsonal 4rm u do u see yur self as a true journalist because u don't focus on questions fixing our country.... All the years yur questions are captured journalist or gossip 😅😅