I take it that you didn't play the first dragon's dogma. Either way. Just to answer some questions. Why were you chosen as the arisen? The Dragon chooses the person with the most "heart" or will. When you make a sacrifice to save Ulrika, this becomes evident. Sure it could have been done better, but that's why your the arisen. Why does the arisen have to rule? You have to realize that in this world, everything revolves around the arisen. The dragons. The pawns. You're not the first arisen, but one of many. So in the people's eyes, you're their king/queen/Savior. Why do you have to be the arisen? Just refer to the above. In this world, everyone is aware of the arisen and the dragon. So is your character. The fact you're chosen, becomes your duty. A duty you cannot escape. No matter how long it takes, you will have to face Grigori (the dragon that took your heart) Why does the dragon want to be killed? Why do make praying Mantis want to mate, when nearly all if not all end up getting consumed head first? Nature. Or let's say, purpose. Grigori is the ultimate dragon, and the only one that can create an arisen. No one but the arisen can face him in battle alongside his pawns. So it's a test of mettle per se. Why those three endings? Choices. You either want to be evil and not care about the calamity, so you choose not to kill the dragon and let everything burn. You kill the dragon and assume the position of the arisen. Grigori cannot be he rid of that way. All you do is buy time. Years of peace took he returns to create a new arisen after your natural death. You kill yourself and break the cycle. You die, so does Grigori. As the cycle is broken early. That's what i got from the story. It's not the best of stories, but it's not as bad as you made it out to be. I recommend playing the first game, to kinda ease your way into the sequel. Though you don't really need to. The story for the most part is self explanatory. I might not be entirely accurate, but i don't think I'm too far off. Good video though, at least you were honest about how you experienced the game. Sadly the ending was too rushed. I wish there was more build up. That i agree on.
The Arisen itself is decent story, the GAME's story though, is hot ass, it's an ADHD Cat. Political intrigue that was nice and I was looking forward to all that aaaand it's gone when you're told to move to the next country. It vanishes until the very end when the false arisen shows up to be a half minute long boss fight because the level scaling is horrendous.
Hi, you're absolutely right, I did not play it so thank you for clarifying! Although I think I understood most of the points already, I just don't think the reasons are good or compelling enough. Fair enough about Ulrika though, I actually didn't get that, so that makes the scene a lot better (still boring, but better). My point mostly is that I think the other plot points don't have an interesting or emotional reason behind them which makes me feel like they are just random tasks that I have to complete, rather than it being a compelling narrative that I'm invested in to make me want to complete them and finish the hero's story. Thank you for commenting though, I glad you agree on the ending 🙏
Yup the story is kinda sh1t. With the first game is all over the place too, it feels more like an excuse to justify the world and gameplay than anything else. If I recall correctly the dragon is a former arisen, it's a curse that plagues the world. The arisen has to either kill the dragon and become the "god" of a new world or sacrifice his/her lover and keep on living, but the dragon will return later down the line. Something like that.
I'm not going to call the writing of DD2 shakespearean by any means, but I will say that your refusal to finish the game has hurt your comprehension. Pretty much all of your confusion would be addressed by finishing the game yourself, and a few points are resolved even before that. If you weren't having fun with the game, then that's fair enough, and grounds for a negative review. However, commenting on story elements you haven't experienced and lack the context to grasp provides an inaccurate reflection of the game and runs counter to the purpose of a review.
Hey! I can't really be too adamant, since I haven't finished it, but I did play all the way to Battahl (that's like 80% of the main story?) and then I watched all the endings, and I'm not convinced I would've given it a more positive review if I played it myself. But I get what you mean!
@@vanoobie Overall, I think this is a pretty valid negative review. It doesn't sound like you were enjoying the game up to that point, so you're probably right that it wouldn't have moved the needle for you in terms of overall enjoyment. That said, I also feel like if you are going to give your opinion on something as a proper review, it's important to be well educated on the elements you discuss. There's a lot of important characters and answers in Battahl, and more yet in the post-game, which is not so much extra endgame content as it is the actual ending of the storyline. For instance, two of the endings (refusing to fight the dragon & becoming sovereign after slaying the dragon) are effectively fail-states, rather than actual endings. There's things like that that you don't really grasp until you play through it yourself and experience the context. In the original, the Dragonforged, a key NPC with a lot of answers, whom you have bowed out too soon to meet, was introduced much earlier in the story. I think them placing him so much deeper into the game this time around was a definite mistake. I think your experience might have faired better without that decision. I wholeheartedly recommend giving Dark Arisen a go, provided you at least enjoyed the gameplay on offer here. You may find the narrative a bit more accessible (albeit still a bit stiff), and it may even give you some fresh eyes for view DD2 itself.
I take it that you didn't play the first dragon's dogma. Either way. Just to answer some questions.
Why were you chosen as the arisen? The Dragon chooses the person with the most "heart" or will. When you make a sacrifice to save Ulrika, this becomes evident. Sure it could have been done better, but that's why your the arisen.
Why does the arisen have to rule?
You have to realize that in this world, everything revolves around the arisen. The dragons. The pawns. You're not the first arisen, but one of many. So in the people's eyes, you're their king/queen/Savior.
Why do you have to be the arisen?
Just refer to the above. In this world, everyone is aware of the arisen and the dragon. So is your character. The fact you're chosen, becomes your duty. A duty you cannot escape. No matter how long it takes, you will have to face Grigori (the dragon that took your heart)
Why does the dragon want to be killed?
Why do make praying Mantis want to mate, when nearly all if not all end up getting consumed head first? Nature. Or let's say, purpose. Grigori is the ultimate dragon, and the only one that can create an arisen. No one but the arisen can face him in battle alongside his pawns. So it's a test of mettle per se.
Why those three endings?
Choices. You either want to be evil and not care about the calamity, so you choose not to kill the dragon and let everything burn.
You kill the dragon and assume the position of the arisen. Grigori cannot be he rid of that way. All you do is buy time. Years of peace took he returns to create a new arisen after your natural death.
You kill yourself and break the cycle. You die, so does Grigori. As the cycle is broken early.
That's what i got from the story.
It's not the best of stories, but it's not as bad as you made it out to be.
I recommend playing the first game, to kinda ease your way into the sequel. Though you don't really need to. The story for the most part is self explanatory.
I might not be entirely accurate, but i don't think I'm too far off.
Good video though, at least you were honest about how you experienced the game.
Sadly the ending was too rushed. I wish there was more build up. That i agree on.
The Arisen itself is decent story, the GAME's story though, is hot ass, it's an ADHD Cat. Political intrigue that was nice and I was looking forward to all that aaaand it's gone when you're told to move to the next country. It vanishes until the very end when the false arisen shows up to be a half minute long boss fight because the level scaling is horrendous.
Hi, you're absolutely right, I did not play it so thank you for clarifying! Although I think I understood most of the points already, I just don't think the reasons are good or compelling enough. Fair enough about Ulrika though, I actually didn't get that, so that makes the scene a lot better (still boring, but better).
My point mostly is that I think the other plot points don't have an interesting or emotional reason behind them which makes me feel like they are just random tasks that I have to complete, rather than it being a compelling narrative that I'm invested in to make me want to complete them and finish the hero's story.
Thank you for commenting though, I glad you agree on the ending 🙏
@@Leifreon Yeah, I was so confused by then, I didn't understand where the story was going and that's where I fell off
see this is why I don't like this remake.. because that's what this is.. DD1 is actually objectively a better experience.. thx for vid ❤
Yup the story is kinda sh1t. With the first game is all over the place too, it feels more like an excuse to justify the world and gameplay than anything else.
If I recall correctly the dragon is a former arisen, it's a curse that plagues the world. The arisen has to either kill the dragon and become the "god" of a new world or sacrifice his/her lover and keep on living, but the dragon will return later down the line. Something like that.
yeah, and I think that since we all seem kinda unsure on exactly what is what, is just the proof that's it's overly complicated and bad storytelling 😂
I'm not going to call the writing of DD2 shakespearean by any means, but I will say that your refusal to finish the game has hurt your comprehension.
Pretty much all of your confusion would be addressed by finishing the game yourself, and a few points are resolved even before that.
If you weren't having fun with the game, then that's fair enough, and grounds for a negative review. However, commenting on story elements you haven't experienced and lack the context to grasp provides an inaccurate reflection of the game and runs counter to the purpose of a review.
Hey! I can't really be too adamant, since I haven't finished it, but I did play all the way to Battahl (that's like 80% of the main story?) and then I watched all the endings, and I'm not convinced I would've given it a more positive review if I played it myself. But I get what you mean!
@@vanoobie Overall, I think this is a pretty valid negative review. It doesn't sound like you were enjoying the game up to that point, so you're probably right that it wouldn't have moved the needle for you in terms of overall enjoyment. That said, I also feel like if you are going to give your opinion on something as a proper review, it's important to be well educated on the elements you discuss.
There's a lot of important characters and answers in Battahl, and more yet in the post-game, which is not so much extra endgame content as it is the actual ending of the storyline. For instance, two of the endings (refusing to fight the dragon & becoming sovereign after slaying the dragon) are effectively fail-states, rather than actual endings. There's things like that that you don't really grasp until you play through it yourself and experience the context.
In the original, the Dragonforged, a key NPC with a lot of answers, whom you have bowed out too soon to meet, was introduced much earlier in the story. I think them placing him so much deeper into the game this time around was a definite mistake. I think your experience might have faired better without that decision.
I wholeheartedly recommend giving Dark Arisen a go, provided you at least enjoyed the gameplay on offer here. You may find the narrative a bit more accessible (albeit still a bit stiff), and it may even give you some fresh eyes for view DD2 itself.