SSJ Vegeta here feels exactly how Golden Frieza was against Goku and Vegeta. Just so overconfident about his new form and power that there is no possible way he could lose and makes mistakes he probably wouldn't have otherwise.
Yup outside of the transformation no longer being spontaneous He legit had to learn ki control all over again. He still didn’t have it down by the time he hit assj😂
He might had a chance with the reckless 18 of the future, but no way with the battle smart 18 of the present, she was passing herself assessing the threat levels and looking to incapacitate when she had seen enough.
The key to victory is always outsmarting the opponent. Vegeta could have surprise attacked with an early fully charged galic gun or fled the battle to rest and dramatically increased his power level from battle experience.
Ultimately, Vegeta's cooked no matter what because, even if he pulls a miracle out of his ass and manages to overcome 18, 17's a good deal stronger than her and 16 is SUBSTANTIALLY stronger than both 17 and 18. Well, at least he'd have the moral victory of winning against one of them.
In a wierd way this is a pretty good example on how to do a strong female character in media.no one ever brings up how 18 is a women,or how much a strong women she is,she’s treated the same as a 17 as a threat level
@@SansINess53 Pretty much. The one real time I can think of where her being a woman is acknowledged is in the Kai Dub, Vegeta initially says don't assume he subscribes to chivalry. Even if she's weaker than her brother, she's still a big threat to them at the time for sure.
Yeahn Android is one of the few women in battle shonen where she's as srtrong or a threat to over powered guys. Toriyama cooked I wish we had morepowerful female characters in the vain of Android 18.
You know I have to give Dr. Gero credit where its due when he made the androids to kill Goku. He knew how strong Goku was in the saiyan saga, and even if he went off of goku's highest shown Kaioken to estimate how strong they would need to be he went and made them more then 10,000x as strong as they would of needed to be at that time he did NOT underestimate Goku at all.
10:15 I don’t think this Vegeta could beat her he just wasn’t enough. He never forced her to go all out she never felt threatened by Vegeta. She knew she had his effort under control the whole time.
6:43 that… or she was deliberately dragging out the fight by “dodging” or by allowing herself to get “beat up” to boost vegetas ego so it’s even better when she tears his ego down by showing him that his attacks did nothing 😂 Even trunks admitted that the androids in the past were far stronger than those in his timeline
Bruuuuh I'm so traumatized by how dirty my prince was done here I didn't even realise that only Broly and Piccolo had him looking like that in the Thumbnails. According to my brain....18 having Vegeta like that is Cannon nooo.
If you didn’t allow his emotions to get over him, he probably could’ve beat 18 but not only did his emotions hold them back. He said if he would’ve gone all out on an energy blast, he would’ve destroyed the earth.
No, I don’t think he would’ve because Goku mentions that in the super Saiyan state. It takes up a lot of energy. That’s the reason why him and Gohan just stayed in there super Saiyan forms to up their stamina.
I feel this makes the huge assumption that 18 was trying the whole time. She never said she would to him unless you count the time she started shitting on him, in which there’s no confirmation she continued to do so. 18 could’ve simply been trying to have fun, which I believe was something that was stated too.
Yeah like you said maybe a sneak attack after kicking up a bunch of dust or pretending she’s pushing him more than she really is followed by a quick surprise energy disc ‘could be sufficient’ as Vegeta told 20 when he was playing head games. A little surprised energy discs are utilized much more often considering how effective they are (although after Frieza the Z villains all regenerate so perhaps not so effective).
They were not close at all, Cyborg 18 was holding back the whole time, she was fighting without the intention to murk him. If it was future cyborg 18, Vegeta would have been finished off in a minute.
Do you think Android 18 suffered from Vegeta’s Big Bang Attack here ? 5:44 Since she shows no emotions as an Android but as Vegeta and 18 are the same power, wouldn’t be surprising to see her as damaged as Vegeta ?
I don’t think it’s just this vegeta had used quite a bit of energy chasing down gero and when he shot energy down to gero it was substantial enough to increase gero’s speed to be on SS Vegeta’s level and waste more energy trying to take down the lab door
As a child I used to think Lazuli and Vegeta would get together. It made perfect sense. Vegeta loved fighting and loved fighting people stronger than him. Lazuli was stronger and was even able to break his arm. But little did little me know that after this fight Vegeta and Lazuli would never interact with each other ever again. Not in GT not in Super. LMAO
Sometimes when i forget how bad 18 is, i be thinking ppl hype up her beauty way too much but when i see an image of her or a clip of her again, i get y ppl are head over heels for her. She's gorgeous af
She is levels above Vegeta. Vegeta was playing with 19 and 20 was stronger than 19. 18 one shot 20. this puts her in range of tanking Vegeta at least. and we see that she has no bruises or bleeding after their interactions. she wears him down slowly because the androids in this timeline are kind. 16 thanks her for not killing anyone because she could've easily done so.
With the knowledge of the androids having infinite energy, the Z fighters could've also change their fighting style, and opt for more of a wrestling or jiu-jitsu style, while targeting limbs or going for a rear naked choke.
This goes to show why Future Trunks (Before Super) is rhe Best Saiyan. He overcame his Sayian Arrogance unlike his Peers to destroy the Enemy Within Minutes.
I agree with you on his "Marriage" with bulma making no sense! But imagining Trunks being the Son of Vegeta and #18 could probably be interesting as much as I hate Vegeta and as I hate to admit it!
U both are wrong here. Him getting with Bulma did make sense. They are both smart; Bulma being brainy and Vegeta with battle smarts. Also, Vegeta is known for having a sharp tongue and Bulma can take it just as well as she can dish it out so it's a good matchup And.....u do realize that 18 can't have kids right, so how would that work with Trunks?
What I never understood about the android saga, is why the hell doesn’t a senzu bean cure goku’s heart virus…… as soon as it started he should popped a bean and kept going
I said from the beginning that it should have gone something like this, but with Vegeta being much stronger than 18. She would be caught off guard and then have to resort to dodging and wearing Vegeta down until she finally gained the upper hand and could land strong blows on him. Unfortunately, I don't think Vegeta was portrayed as equal to or even close to 18. I think she was always much stronger than him from the start, and she only dodged and pulled punches in order to toy with him. She likely also knew his psychological profile and went for an attack on his pride, knowing he would lose his temper and make mistakes. It's also possible she was testing the super saiyan form to see its strengths and weaknesses in preparation for Goku. I like Vegeta and 18, but I think this fight was designed to hype up the androids at Vegeta's humiliating expense.
I doubt it would kill 18 at that point in the story. The best Vegeta was able to do vs her was damage her clothes and throughout the entire fight he never left so much as a scratch on her
A tactical vegeta could maybe get the better of 18 but it would be hella high difficulty. At best it’s a stalemate until he still burns out but he’d wouldn’t have gotten as humiliated as he did. Something to note too. Although ssj was obviously a major turning point it put all of them in a situation where they had to learn aspects of ki control all over again. It’s still a loss more likely.
Ones of the most famous beat down of the dragon Ball saga also nice thumbnail tho lol I can see the reasons why you pick this one can not use the original picture😂
This is why Trunks is the best Sayajin. Vegeta is too arrogant, Goku likes to play around, Gohan is either too pacific or too cocky...Trunks just want to be done with it, which makes his approach the most effective when he is not trying to save Vegeta.
I believe she was 1.5x stronger. 18 being stronger is what got in vegeta's head. Further in the beginning she avoided everything vegeta did in the beginning. Vegeta had to push himself and had more experience. That experience is why vegeta could keep up. Remember 17 and 18 have virtually no experience. And yes I believe he could have bridged that large gap if he fought well.
SSJ Vegeta at this point is *significantly* more powerful than SSJ Trunks and I'll tell you why: - Trunks states that the Androids in this timeline are stronger than the Androids in his time. - Trunks is still not strong enough to take his Androids - Vegeta is strong enough to stand up to #18 This makes sense given that Vegeta is a grown ass man who has been through intensive training his entire life whereas Trunks is a teenager with less opportunity to access quality training. If Super Saiyan is a multiplier, Vegeta's base is far above Trunks' base and so SSJ Vegeta is far above SSJ Trunks. I say that to say this being the case, the fact that #17 can one shot Trunks is not evidence that he could do the same to Vegeta at that time or that he is *that* far above #18 in power. To this end, we know that #17 and #18 can be made to bleed when fighting evenly matched opponents. We see it when #17 and Piccolo fight. The very first hit #18 lands makes Vegeta bleed. Vegeta, on the other hand, is throwing haymakers the entire fight and not once does he do more than get dirt on her and ruin her clothes. She's playing with him the entire time. They aren't close.
dbz vegeta is like a kid who lost his toys where DBS vegeta is a grown man and if only if dbz vegeta had the mindset of dbs vegeta Android 18 would lose by a mile hands down
I don't think even with infinite stamina it would make much difference, ignoring what people standing around say 18 pretty much toys with Vegeta the whole time. I think its worth remembering 18 should be weaker but still comparable to 17 who went toe to toe with Piccolo after fusion with Kami. Basically 18 probably wouldn't toy with Vegeta and stomp him once she was serious. I feel 17 is at most 20% more powerful and as little as 10% at least.
listen to me, android 18 is 1.45X super saiyan vegeta and android 17 is basically just 1.95X super saiyan vegeta android 16 is just ultra instinct against super saiyan vegeta.
It's true Vegeta got arrogant after achieving Super Saiyan, it's true Android 18 has more stamina and energy than Vegeta. It's true Vegeta managed to hold his own against the Androids. What made Android 18 defeated and humiliated Vegeta is she outsmarted him. It's true in Dragon Ball Z whoever has the higher power levels normally wins but sometimes having tactics and strategies to win fights is key and Android 18 knew she can outsmart Vegeta. Vegeta wouldn't fall for this obvious trap but because he's so overconfident on his Super Saiyan form he grossly underestimated 18 and made a lot of sloppy moves and as the the fight went on he lost his cool while 18 kept a cool head and got Vegeta where she wanted and won. I enjoy analysing fights especially in Dragon Ball Z. The more I studied the fights the more I learn something new. The point is Android 18 used tactics and outsmarted Vegeta to win the fight.
Android 21/Goķu Android 18/Vegeta 😰 Krillin: "What do this Saiyans got that I don't?" 😏 Vegeta: "God like divinity." 😏 Goku: "Bodies of Greek gods and longevity." 😭 Krillin: "Really Goku I thought we were friends?"
a wild thumbnail AND a random circle
saiyan scholar you madlad
Didn't like random to me. Looked like it was highlighting the whiteness in that particular part of his hair
Bro is wilding with that thumbnail 😂
HE knew lol
He got us
Yeah, can’t believe he placed the red circle in THAT area
@@Emanthebald Not the Circle! *That Monster!* 🤣
We all know her android milk cartons were pints not half gallons
Thanks for the arrow and circle, I would have never noticed if you hadn't put that in the thumbnail!
Android 18 boutta make me act up
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@@Unethical.FandubsGames low t reply
Look up the artist who drew the thumbnail (it's in the description) and you'll act up for sure 😳
@@vlc-cosplayerbro's doing devil's work😲
@@cpilfold420you see the SF6 mod for Cammy?
Bruh...😅
Ah yes that 1 spike in vegeta’s hair is why he lost
Increased drag. Slowed him down
SSJ Vegeta here feels exactly how Golden Frieza was against Goku and Vegeta. Just so overconfident about his new form and power that there is no possible way he could lose and makes mistakes he probably wouldn't have otherwise.
Yup outside of the transformation no longer being spontaneous He legit had to learn ki control all over again. He still didn’t have it down by the time he hit assj😂
Please calm the hell down with these thumbnails, I’m talking about the circles of course, it’s distracting oh and 18 or something idk
What the hell is the 'logic' behind these circles.. anyway?
What do they even 'imply?'
@@ironprincedom2611it got you to comment.
More comments = more engagement = pushed more by the algorithm
They all do that bs so uk what I do thumbs down 👎🏽 the video 😂😂😂😂
He might had a chance with the reckless 18 of the future, but no way with the battle smart 18 of the present, she was passing herself assessing the threat levels and looking to incapacitate when she had seen enough.
I know Prince Vegeta is loving this thumbnail
The TH-camr
Frfr
I think I see what Krillin was thinking now
The thumbnail had me laughing and totally not any other emotion
you are learning the way of the thumbnail
The key to victory is always outsmarting the opponent. Vegeta could have surprise attacked with an early fully charged galic gun or fled the battle to rest and dramatically increased his power level from battle experience.
Ultimately, Vegeta's cooked no matter what because, even if he pulls a miracle out of his ass and manages to overcome 18, 17's a good deal stronger than her and 16 is SUBSTANTIALLY stronger than both 17 and 18. Well, at least he'd have the moral victory of winning against one of them.
At this point in the story 17 had a slight edge in power over her not substantially more
@@kristianschuff1723
I said good deal, enough that he took on the rest of them effortlessly which 18 might not have had nearly as easy a time with.
In a wierd way this is a pretty good example on how to do a strong female character in media.no one ever brings up how 18 is a women,or how much a strong women she is,she’s treated the same as a 17 as a threat level
It is nice when the narrative treats characters as competently as we're supposed to perceive them
@@pascal_case and not as, UGH I am a strong independent female cheesecake power shit milky, in some other animes, (hint : not one piece)
@@SansINess53 Pretty much. The one real time I can think of where her being a woman is acknowledged is in the Kai Dub, Vegeta initially says don't assume he subscribes to chivalry. Even if she's weaker than her brother, she's still a big threat to them at the time for sure.
Yeahn Android is one of the few women in battle shonen where she's as srtrong or a threat to over powered guys. Toriyama cooked I wish we had morepowerful female characters in the vain of Android 18.
@@SansINess53 What are you referringtoo?
You know I have to give Dr. Gero credit where its due when he made the androids to kill Goku. He knew how strong Goku was in the saiyan saga, and even if he went off of goku's highest shown Kaioken to estimate how strong they would need to be he went and made them more then 10,000x as strong as they would of needed to be at that time he did NOT underestimate Goku at all.
Not at all, they were easily able to take out any regular super saiyan
@@Balrog-tf3bg Except future ssj Gohan. They struggled like hell against him. In fact, he would've defeated them both if it was even a 1 on 1 fight
@@Marc-tp2ci that’s fair. They did my boy dirty
bro was ABOUT to break his gooning streak in that thumbnail 🙏💀 looking like he was holding back type shit 😭😭😭
the random red circles in the thumbnails are so goofy
With that thumbnail... krillin is the greatest human on a damn Earth to have 18 Love him!❤
The thumbnail is hilarious lol i always wonder how does vegeta feel about 18 now does he still hold this moment against her?
That thumbnail is wicked bro
Came for the thumbnail stayed for the video good job mate
The circle on the Thumbnail helped me understand how 18 exposed super saiyan
So basically Vegeta should have fought like The Dark Knight Returns Batman.
Mud-Pit?
@@GanonGhidorah Yes that's exactly the same I was thinking of.
The power of the pen, will NOT let Vegeta win.
The reason that Android 18 didn't tank Vegeta blast was probably about her not wanting to ruin her outfit
This thumbnail go crazy 😂💀
10:15 I don’t think this Vegeta could beat her he just wasn’t enough. He never forced her to go all out she never felt threatened by Vegeta. She knew she had his effort under control the whole time.
6:43 that… or she was deliberately dragging out the fight by “dodging” or by allowing herself to get “beat up” to boost vegetas ego so it’s even better when she tears his ego down by showing him that his attacks did nothing 😂
Even trunks admitted that the androids in the past were far stronger than those in his timeline
*Vader breathez heavy* so 18 can TANK ah wild vegeta but needz ah timeout when she TWISTZ HER ANKLE in tha T.O.P.??? *Vader breathez heavy*
I have always wondered how different the fight could have gone if Vegeta didn't drain energy from him
3:54 Ah well, you know, Vegeta's gonna Vegeta.
Clicked because of thumbnail. Now im subscribed.
Bruuuuh I'm so traumatized by how dirty my prince was done here I didn't even realise that only Broly and Piccolo had him looking like that in the Thumbnails. According to my brain....18 having Vegeta like that is Cannon nooo.
If you didn’t allow his emotions to get over him, he probably could’ve beat 18 but not only did his emotions hold them back. He said if he would’ve gone all out on an energy blast, he would’ve destroyed the earth.
No, I don’t think he would’ve because Goku mentions that in the super Saiyan state. It takes up a lot of energy. That’s the reason why him and Gohan just stayed in there super Saiyan forms to up their stamina.
I feel this makes the huge assumption that 18 was trying the whole time. She never said she would to him unless you count the time she started shitting on him, in which there’s no confirmation she continued to do so. 18 could’ve simply been trying to have fun, which I believe was something that was stated too.
A smart one can beat a killer machine
Yeah like you said maybe a sneak attack after kicking up a bunch of dust or pretending she’s pushing him more than she really is followed by a quick surprise energy disc ‘could be sufficient’ as Vegeta told 20 when he was playing head games.
A little surprised energy discs are utilized much more often considering how effective they are (although after Frieza the Z villains all regenerate so perhaps not so effective).
Ah yes the random circle I don’t know what it means there for decorating
They were not close at all, Cyborg 18 was holding back the whole time, she was fighting without the intention to murk him. If it was future cyborg 18, Vegeta would have been finished off in a minute.
Thumbnail s how Krilin remembers this
Break my arms robomommy
Don't change the thumbnail its perfect :)
You're into cartoon girls bro? That's not weird (sarcasm)
I thumbs down the comment. Just doesn't show it btw
Lol
@reptilemark7346 nobody cares lol
also cg girls are waaay hotter anyway soo I agree with your first statement 😂
Thank you @@reptilemark7346 I wish TH-cam still showed dislikes for comments and videos.
What I learned from this... ...Piccolo is the god damn manager.
It should have been me!
Do you think Android 18 suffered from Vegeta’s Big Bang Attack here ? 5:44
Since she shows no emotions as an Android but as Vegeta and 18 are the same power, wouldn’t be surprising to see her as damaged as Vegeta ?
I don’t think it’s just this vegeta had used quite a bit of energy chasing down gero and when he shot energy down to gero it was substantial enough to increase gero’s speed to be on SS Vegeta’s level and waste more energy trying to take down the lab door
What do those red circles and arrows even mean?
Funny how everyone thinks Android 18 got all the assets yet I'm pretty sure that Bulma got more curves than her.
As a child I used to think Lazuli and Vegeta would get together. It made perfect sense. Vegeta loved fighting and loved fighting people stronger than him. Lazuli was stronger and was even able to break his arm. But little did little me know that after this fight Vegeta and Lazuli would never interact with each other ever again. Not in GT not in Super. LMAO
Probably be a better way to explain Trunks IMHO
@@logangustavson It would be a less gross way to explain him too. Bulma and Vegeta always was a terrible ship idea to me.
Somehow I remember that scene differently
I'm not to sure about anything that what Vegeta has going on but one thing that I know is that is had a lot of pride
At times like this, I'm reminded that Vegeta can do the ki en zan
Sometimes when i forget how bad 18 is, i be thinking ppl hype up her beauty way too much but when i see an image of her or a clip of her again, i get y ppl are head over heels for her. She's gorgeous af
Imagine 18 decided to date vegeta and broke krillins arm instead that would be a plot twist
She is levels above Vegeta. Vegeta was playing with 19 and 20 was stronger than 19. 18 one shot 20. this puts her in range of tanking Vegeta at least. and we see that she has no bruises or bleeding after their interactions. she wears him down slowly because the androids in this timeline are kind. 16 thanks her for not killing anyone because she could've easily done so.
With the knowledge of the androids having infinite energy, the Z fighters could've also change their fighting style, and opt for more of a wrestling or jiu-jitsu style, while targeting limbs or going for a rear naked choke.
18 may have infinite stamina but krill still make her tap out.
You didn't have go that hard with the thumbnail 😂
Piccolo was the first to notice it
This goes to show why Future Trunks (Before Super) is rhe Best Saiyan. He overcame his Sayian Arrogance unlike his Peers to destroy the Enemy Within Minutes.
Vegeta said no..
I dislike Vegeta, but his pairing with Bulma made zero sense. Him going with 18 would’ve made way more sense.
I agree with you on his "Marriage" with bulma making no sense! But imagining Trunks being the Son of Vegeta and #18 could probably be interesting as much as I hate Vegeta and as I hate to admit it!
U both are wrong here. Him getting with Bulma did make sense. They are both smart; Bulma being brainy and Vegeta with battle smarts. Also, Vegeta is known for having a sharp tongue and Bulma can take it just as well as she can dish it out so it's a good matchup
And.....u do realize that 18 can't have kids right, so how would that work with Trunks?
I just clicked the video so I could see the comments 💀
What I never understood about the android saga, is why the hell doesn’t a senzu bean cure goku’s heart virus…… as soon as it started he should popped a bean and kept going
No matter how you look at it, Vegeta was never going to win this battle. Only somebody as delusional as Vegeta in this arc could believe otherwise😆.
from watching the show i always thought she was around 1.25x stronger than vegeta
Before the blast hits 16 warns 18 of Vegeta's location, after all, 16 can sense energy.
I said from the beginning that it should have gone something like this, but with Vegeta being much stronger than 18. She would be caught off guard and then have to resort to dodging and wearing Vegeta down until she finally gained the upper hand and could land strong blows on him. Unfortunately, I don't think Vegeta was portrayed as equal to or even close to 18. I think she was always much stronger than him from the start, and she only dodged and pulled punches in order to toy with him. She likely also knew his psychological profile and went for an attack on his pride, knowing he would lose his temper and make mistakes. It's also possible she was testing the super saiyan form to see its strengths and weaknesses in preparation for Goku. I like Vegeta and 18, but I think this fight was designed to hype up the androids at Vegeta's humiliating expense.
If Vegeta hit her with a Final Flash or Big Bang spot on if she didn't have a shield she would have been cooked. Than 17 would have killed everyone.
I doubt it would kill 18 at that point in the story. The best Vegeta was able to do vs her was damage her clothes and throughout the entire fight he never left so much as a scratch on her
A tactical vegeta could maybe get the better of 18 but it would be hella high difficulty. At best it’s a stalemate until he still burns out but he’d wouldn’t have gotten as humiliated as he did. Something to note too. Although ssj was obviously a major turning point it put all of them in a situation where they had to learn aspects of ki control all over again. It’s still a loss more likely.
Ones of the most famous beat down of the dragon Ball saga also nice thumbnail tho lol I can see the reasons why you pick this one can not use the original picture😂
Always saw 18 as being the stronger android with 17 being faster more powerful ki blast. Even piccolo said holy punched harder than 17
"She is purposefully knowing she is wearing him down"
Much like how you are intentionally wording English in a passionately weird unintentional way.
I think Super Vegeta was born after his fight with 18. He wanted to make sure he could one shot them all
This is why Trunks is the best Sayajin. Vegeta is too arrogant, Goku likes to play around, Gohan is either too pacific or too cocky...Trunks just want to be done with it, which makes his approach the most effective when he is not trying to save Vegeta.
If she wanted to vegeta would be her baby daddy… his arms where broke she taking it 😮
18 is bona-fide.
I believe she was 1.5x stronger. 18 being stronger is what got in vegeta's head. Further in the beginning she avoided everything vegeta did in the beginning. Vegeta had to push himself and had more experience. That experience is why vegeta could keep up. Remember 17 and 18 have virtually no experience. And yes I believe he could have bridged that large gap if he fought well.
SSJ Vegeta at this point is *significantly* more powerful than SSJ Trunks and I'll tell you why:
- Trunks states that the Androids in this timeline are stronger than the Androids in his time.
- Trunks is still not strong enough to take his Androids
- Vegeta is strong enough to stand up to #18
This makes sense given that Vegeta is a grown ass man who has been through intensive training his entire life whereas Trunks is a teenager with less opportunity to access quality training. If Super Saiyan is a multiplier, Vegeta's base is far above Trunks' base and so SSJ Vegeta is far above SSJ Trunks.
I say that to say this being the case, the fact that #17 can one shot Trunks is not evidence that he could do the same to Vegeta at that time or that he is *that* far above #18 in power.
To this end, we know that #17 and #18 can be made to bleed when fighting evenly matched opponents. We see it when #17 and Piccolo fight.
The very first hit #18 lands makes Vegeta bleed. Vegeta, on the other hand, is throwing haymakers the entire fight and not once does he do more than get dirt on her and ruin her clothes.
She's playing with him the entire time. They aren't close.
dbz vegeta is like a kid who lost his toys where DBS vegeta is a grown man and if only if dbz vegeta had the mindset of dbs vegeta Android 18 would lose by a mile hands down
#WHAT IF TEIN KILLED GOKU IN THE WORLD MARTIAL ARTS TOURNAMENT
Raditz woulda come to earth and that’d be the end of the story
Pegasus! Ryuu Sei Keeeeeennn~!
Vegeta`s power level was: 752,500,000. Android 18`s was :1,800,000,000(1.8 billion). Of course she defeated him ,with ease.
I don't think even with infinite stamina it would make much difference, ignoring what people standing around say 18 pretty much toys with Vegeta the whole time. I think its worth remembering 18 should be weaker but still comparable to 17 who went toe to toe with Piccolo after fusion with Kami. Basically 18 probably wouldn't toy with Vegeta and stomp him once she was serious. I feel 17 is at most 20% more powerful and as little as 10% at least.
Infinite Stamina baby !!
True tho this make a lot of sense
i think 18 had a high power level than Vegeta at that time.
super saiyan vegeta with infinite energy would still die against 18 due to the fact, he will drag it the fuck out.
That thumbnail...🤣
listen to me, android 18 is 1.45X super saiyan vegeta
and android 17 is basically just 1.95X super saiyan vegeta
android 16 is just ultra instinct against super saiyan vegeta.
Ultra instinct is a little too much. More like 2.50 or 3X stronger
@@easportslegend that's the point, vegeta will have no way of defeating 16 at this point.
A good strategy could have possibly won the fight with 18 but 17 would have washed him.
Arrogant vegeta crawled so smart vegeta could walk. Smart vegeta didn’t exist back then. Shady and exploitative vegeta did though
The fucking thumbnail bro 💀
It's true Vegeta got arrogant after achieving Super Saiyan, it's true Android 18 has more stamina and energy than Vegeta. It's true Vegeta managed to hold his own against the Androids. What made Android 18 defeated and humiliated Vegeta is she outsmarted him. It's true in Dragon Ball Z whoever has the higher power levels normally wins but sometimes having tactics and strategies to win fights is key and Android 18 knew she can outsmart Vegeta. Vegeta wouldn't fall for this obvious trap but because he's so overconfident on his Super Saiyan form he grossly underestimated 18 and made a lot of sloppy moves and as the the fight went on he lost his cool while 18 kept a cool head and got Vegeta where she wanted and won. I enjoy analysing fights especially in Dragon Ball Z. The more I studied the fights the more I learn something new. The point is Android 18 used tactics and outsmarted Vegeta to win the fight.
Dude is really going crazy with the thumbnails
Android 21/Goķu
Android 18/Vegeta
😰 Krillin: "What do this Saiyans got that I don't?"
😏 Vegeta: "God like divinity."
😏 Goku: "Bodies of Greek gods and longevity."
😭 Krillin: "Really Goku I thought we were friends?"
That's not Goku that's Kakarot
Vegeta wasn’t at full strength.
This is why Goku is the best fighter
Could he use his dirty fireworks on her?