As an organic farmer, I prefer to grow a wide variety of fruit and native trees. Also raise chickens, goats and cattle and pigs later on when we have excess fruit to feed them. My plan is to be a price maker, not a price taker. To do that u need a strategy. Diversity is your safest option.
Great tips .. especially the 3rd tip mentioned , ive just started using a Trichoderma Powder for soil fungi , a prevention, elimination of root rot in the durian.
This video is an invaluable lesson for beginners preparing to grow durian in Thailand. I recently made a lot of mistakes installing greenhouse films, and I found that I could have avoided them if I had been given advance advice by someone who was experienced in building greenhouses.
Funny thing, I actully did ask 3 or 4 highly experienced Thai durian farmers as i was starting, Now years later I know they were deliberatly being vague and hidding information. If only I could start all over again.
Dang...nobody likes losing trees or the money we spend on them. Just don't beat yourself up too much...a little is okay! I think many of us would have preferred to plant several varieties as well. Diversity is normally always best. The mounds? Who the hell would have ever thought your first ones with the backhoe would cause such issues?! This is a tough one and due to how you laid out your rows, leaves you in a pickle on how to improve them. Is it feasible to nuke the grasses and replace with something like perennial peanut that doesn't need weed eating? I always believed that too much moisture was a disease's best friend, never dreamed that disease would be an issue during a long dry period. Thanks for the vids....entertaining as well as educational. While my application is geared for yard planting, I still get plenty of useful takeaways from your vids.
stay strong buddy. surely learnt a lot from your mistake. phytophora is surely one of the no 1 enemy for durian. not to forget rhizoctonia solani. moncozeb might help. here in malaysia we used to prevent these 2 fungus. be sure to alternate your fungicide to avoid resistance. hope for the best ya👍💪
Sounds like lots of variables such as could use more oxygen to the roots due to its abilility to be susceptible to root rot/botrytis/fusarium wilt or it doesn't like the high humidity. Possible less frequent irrigations. High humidity creates a lower vapor pressure deficit so the plants are not able to transpire as quickly. Raised beds are great but Have you amended with any vermiculite or perlite in the base of the plant when planting? Certain varietals when I grow other plants are picky about nutrient EC/pH and ambient relative humidity as well as leaf temperature. I was amazed how some strains will benefit with shade vs the blasting UV rays all the time. Love your content by the way!
Hi, my farm is located is south but I have the same problems. Monthong grow well and the Purmanee same as Musangking grow not nearly fast as the Monthong. Some trees are 3-4m for Monthong and the same age the other trees are just 1m. Maybe it is not only the area, it is the verity by them self who is so different in growth. Thanks again for your experience 👍
Yes, some trees not good growing at certain place. Sometimes those trees we bought too may have some problems that we not aware until it stop growing. Thanks for your advice bro. Just don't give up and replace a good tree.
Can you do a video on "How to spot root rot before its too late" its never been an issie for me, But its always on my mind... I have no idea what to look for.. its amazing how Unclear alot of these Thai Authored Durian Books can be... Cheers
I'm using a fungicide now and it seems to be working I've applied it 2 times so far I'm going to spay the farm again this weekend .I'll keep everybody posted
Great honest video mate. Here in Australia we also find certain varieties struggle badly and some do great, for example I found kradumthong the best tree by far here very vigorous and strong, ganyao and monthong not nearly as good. D190 from Malaysia struggling badly yet D178 doing great!!! Can’t work out why some do better than others when planted only meters apart
@@TMDurianfarmerhow interesting my kradumthong grows much faster than my monthong and anything else however I only have one tree of each so can’t really draw scientific conclusions from that, although others around here have most found kradumthong very fast growing as well
@@Ivesy85 I have 150 kradumthong and twice as much monthong .it looks like all of my monthong is much bigger than any of my kradumthong. I also have musang king about 100 and also much bigger than kradumthong .but all and all kradumthong is strong healthy and steady growing
Tim would Kanyao and Musang King do better in CHanthaburi instead of Kanchanaburi ? Chanthaburi is much better climate. Was wondering from which area of Thailand all the Kanyao comes from
In my region monthong grows best . To find out what grows best in your region talk with local durian farmers they will know . This is the best advice I can give for growing the best variety for your region
@@kevhall4802 Anthracnose is easier to diagnose as you can see its effect on leaves. There are fungicides with active compound - Azoxystrobin , Carbendazim or Mancozeb to control it. Some might not be allowed in where you are. It mainly attacks during rainy and wet weather. Phytophthora is diff to diagnose. In young plants it will kill it before you know as it attack the roots first. In older trees with higher resistance, you will see blacken patches on trunk will oozing fluids. Never hv to deal with it for time being. I know people who will excise the patch of trunk to rid it by applying some ???
The realities of being a farmer. All folks hear is how much money you “ can” make from Durian. The old saying nothing is free- if it is beware. Farming is work and is a long term commitment that you better enjoy because you will have problems, good years and bad years. Seems easy to buy some land , plant some trees, and reap the rewards. Being a farmer is a “lifestyle “ that is not meant for all. In todays world everybody wants instant results. Appreciate your honesty, will probably, if they listen , save some folks money. Save money by learning from your mistakes or realizing farming durians is not easy. Having a farm is a marriage. Hopefully you are not too hard on yourself. I am married to a Thai for 20 years who has Durian dreams- me- maybe a couple trees 😂
Being a farmer is a lifestyle that comes with hard work along with good and bad year. I love it I'm one of these guys that always has to do something and being a farmer there is always something to do.Im writing this at 530 am drinking my coffee getting ready to tend to the farm with the wife .Life is great
Sir I planted 3 montong died one chanee survived 6 years flowered no fruit 2 musang king one died one stunted growth one red prown 6 years but very very stunted growth 4 feet only
@@dvavlam1860 check your pH .Durian needs a pH around 6 if your soil pH is wrong this will make the durian trees grow slowly .I suggest you check this.Let me the results
I am from South India montong 100% failure but still hope in chanee only It also has lot of fungus stem borders insect and pest musang king 4 years fungus borders leaf desease etc 5 feet only no hope red prawn also very very pover growth and desease lot of lokel verities very very pover growth no hope
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Thanks for your sincere sharing, Tim.
We all learn by mistake....
Bless you success and happiness.
As an organic farmer, I prefer to grow a wide variety of fruit and native trees. Also raise chickens, goats and cattle and pigs later on when we have excess fruit to feed them.
My plan is to be a price maker, not a price taker. To do that u need a strategy.
Diversity is your safest option.
Great tips .. especially the 3rd tip mentioned , ive just started using a Trichoderma Powder for soil fungi , a prevention, elimination of root rot in the durian.
This video is an invaluable lesson for beginners preparing to grow durian in Thailand. I recently made a lot of mistakes installing greenhouse films, and I found that I could have avoided them if I had been given advance advice by someone who was experienced in building greenhouses.
I hope to see you positive about your mistakes and difficulties in future videos. This will encourage me greatly.
Funny thing, I actully did ask 3 or 4 highly experienced Thai durian farmers as i was starting, Now years later I know they were deliberatly being vague and hidding information. If only I could start all over again.
Sir,
Thanks for all the informative videos.
You are so generous to share all your experiences.. thanks
Dang...nobody likes losing trees or the money we spend on them. Just don't beat yourself up too much...a little is okay! I think many of us would have preferred to plant several varieties as well. Diversity is normally always best. The mounds? Who the hell would have ever thought your first ones with the backhoe would cause such issues?! This is a tough one and due to how you laid out your rows, leaves you in a pickle on how to improve them. Is it feasible to nuke the grasses and replace with something like perennial peanut that doesn't need weed eating? I always believed that too much moisture was a disease's best friend, never dreamed that disease would be an issue during a long dry period. Thanks for the vids....entertaining as well as educational. While my application is geared for yard planting, I still get plenty of useful takeaways from your vids.
Thanks Tim
@@BobbyBiswas2477 👍
stay strong buddy. surely learnt a lot from your mistake. phytophora is surely one of the no 1 enemy for durian. not to forget rhizoctonia solani. moncozeb might help. here in malaysia we used to prevent these 2 fungus. be sure to alternate your fungicide to avoid resistance. hope for the best ya👍💪
Thank you so much
@@TMDurianfarmer for cover crop, here we use arachis pintoi. great for nitrogen balance and no need to cut them as they did not grow tall
Hi sir, what did you use to prevent root rot?
Thanks for sharing Tim.
Sounds like lots of variables such as could use more oxygen to the roots due to its abilility to be susceptible to root rot/botrytis/fusarium wilt or it doesn't like the high humidity. Possible less frequent irrigations. High humidity creates a lower vapor pressure deficit so the plants are not able to transpire as quickly. Raised beds are great but Have you amended with any vermiculite or perlite in the base of the plant when planting? Certain varietals when I grow other plants are picky about nutrient EC/pH and ambient relative humidity as well as leaf temperature. I was amazed how some strains will benefit with shade vs the blasting UV rays all the time. Love your content by the way!
Hi, my farm is located is south but I have the same problems. Monthong grow well and the Purmanee same as Musangking grow not nearly fast as the Monthong. Some trees are 3-4m for Monthong and the same age the other trees are just 1m. Maybe it is not only the area, it is the verity by them self who is so different in growth. Thanks again for your experience 👍
I think you are right it could be just the variety. Thank you for your comment it's helpful .
Interesting, thanks for the video and your honesty
Yes, some trees not good growing at certain place. Sometimes those trees we bought too may have some problems that we not aware until it stop growing. Thanks for your advice bro. Just don't give up and replace a good tree.
Thanks KL
Would you recommend treating the ground prior to planting?
Yes I'm actually doing that now with 6 Rai that I'm getting ready to plant next month
It's far better to try ( even if you make a few mistakes ) than not try at all Terry, Chin Up Mate
You're right we learn and grow from our mistakes, thanks Don
Can you do a video on "How to spot root rot before its too late"
its never been an issie for me, But its always on my mind... I have no idea what to look for..
its amazing how Unclear alot of these Thai Authored Durian Books can be...
Cheers
I can do that .The problem with root issues is by the time you notice an issue it's too late.
What chemical can I use for the disease mentioned in the 3rd tip?
Monthong is my best favourite. And it is original to Thailand. No wonder it grow the best.
what type of alluninuim?
I have the same problems in Australia. But I just have a couple of trees not a farm. Hope you can sort all the problems out
I'm using a fungicide now and it seems to be working I've applied it 2 times so far I'm going to spay the farm again this weekend .I'll keep everybody posted
Just wondering if you can get away with just planting Monthong ? Do you need other varieties to facilitate cross- pollination?
You don't but you do get a better fruit set with having another variety that's really why I put in the others.
What was that product you are spraying on the ground again? ( Aluminium something ...)
Fosetyle-aluminium
Great honest video mate. Here in Australia we also find certain varieties struggle badly and some do great, for example I found kradumthong the best tree by far here very vigorous and strong, ganyao and monthong not nearly as good. D190 from Malaysia struggling badly yet D178 doing great!!! Can’t work out why some do better than others when planted only meters apart
My kradumthong is very robust it does great on my farm also but is slow growing compared to monthong .
@@TMDurianfarmerhow interesting my kradumthong grows much faster than my monthong and anything else however I only have one tree of each so can’t really draw scientific conclusions from that, although others around here have most found kradumthong very fast growing as well
@@Ivesy85 I have 150 kradumthong and twice as much monthong .it looks like all of my monthong is much bigger than any of my kradumthong. I also have musang king about 100 and also much bigger than kradumthong .but all and all kradumthong is strong healthy and steady growing
thanks for the tips. do you see that Southern thailand will have Durian in Mid August ?
I'm not sure the weather this year has been a struggle
What you spray on the ground if you dont mind
I used a fungicide from a local supplier it worked 👍
Haven't seen all your videos yet, s
o that's why this question Which area are you in?
Good videos love to look them 💯💎
I'm in kanchanaburi thank you for subscribing
I made a simular mistake with my domes... Total pain to cut the grass to this day, I made other mistakes too...
Tim would Kanyao and Musang King do better in CHanthaburi instead of Kanchanaburi ? Chanthaburi is much better climate. Was wondering from which area of Thailand all the Kanyao comes from
In my region monthong grows best . To find out what grows best in your region talk with local durian farmers they will know . This is the best advice I can give for growing the best variety for your region
@@TMDurianfarmer I live in Florida. Was just curious. :) Love your honest reviews
I'm in Buriram, where are you at and what do you think about Durian in Buriram ???
It can grow there
Phytophthora is a killer from the soil up
Anthracnose is the next killer on the leaves.
What do you use to treat both these? are they a fungus or a disease
@@kevhall4802
Anthracnose is easier to diagnose as you can see its effect on leaves. There are fungicides with active compound - Azoxystrobin , Carbendazim or Mancozeb to control it. Some might not be allowed in where you are. It mainly attacks during rainy and wet weather.
Phytophthora is diff to diagnose. In young plants it will kill it before you know as it attack the roots first. In older trees with higher resistance, you will see blacken patches on trunk will oozing fluids. Never hv to deal with it for time being. I know people who will excise the patch of trunk to rid it by applying some ???
We lost a few trees this year they where 8 years old 😢
The realities of being a farmer. All folks hear is how much money you “ can” make from Durian. The old saying nothing is free- if it is beware. Farming is work and is a long term commitment that you better enjoy because you will have problems, good years and bad years. Seems easy to buy some land , plant some trees, and reap the rewards. Being a farmer is a “lifestyle “ that is not meant for all. In todays world everybody wants instant results. Appreciate your honesty, will probably, if they listen , save some folks money. Save money by learning from your mistakes or realizing farming durians is not easy. Having a farm is a marriage. Hopefully you are not too hard on yourself. I am married to a Thai for 20 years who has Durian dreams- me- maybe a couple trees 😂
Being a farmer is a lifestyle that comes with hard work along with good and bad year. I love it I'm one of these guys that always has to do something and being a farmer there is always something to do.Im writing this at 530 am drinking my coffee getting ready to tend to the farm with the wife .Life is great
Sir I planted 3 montong died one chanee survived 6 years flowered no fruit 2 musang king one died one stunted growth one red prown 6 years but very very stunted growth 4 feet only
Try treating your trees with a fungicide
Organic fungicide ok I use organic fertilizers is it ok growth very very slow
@@dvavlam1860 check your pH .Durian needs a pH around 6 if your soil pH is wrong this will make the durian trees grow slowly .I suggest you check this.Let me the results
True sir I treat with ash dolomite humic acid agriculture lime good which one is best
@@dvavlam1860 lim will raise the pH .if your pH is below 5.5 you must treat around the roots .what did the pH test show ?
I feel upset on hearing trees died of desease. It took years to grow a tree that bear durians.
I am from South India montong 100% failure but still hope in chanee only It also has lot of fungus stem borders insect and pest musang king 4 years fungus borders leaf desease etc 5 feet only no hope red prawn also very very pover growth and desease lot of lokel verities very very pover growth no hope