Fun fact: SUSE changed the page for Liberty Linux and made it more clear its a support contract because of me. It used to say "Request demo" instead of "Request pricing". I was under the impression that Liberty Linux was a fork of RHEL. Curious to learn more about it and possibly get my hands on an ISO image I contacted them requesting a "demo". I spoke to a couple people on the phone about it still under the impression. Once I was able to have a meeting with someone I asked about the distribution and let them know my intent to learn about it. I was informed that it is a support contract and they apologized for the confusion. I was pleased with what I could gather. A day or so passes before the page was changed.
At least they made it a bit clearer after you talked with them. The name "Liberty Linux" does sound more like a distro than a support service. I wonder how "Request demo" would have worked... wreck a server then click the button and say "I would like a demonstration of your support please"? Could have had a bit of fun with it!
@@ProTechShow it definitely didn't help that many news sources said Liberty Linux was a fork of RHEL. As far as I know you're the only one who got it right. Which is awesome! As for the demo part MS Teams was acting up for me, so they couldn't show me anything Liberty Linux had to offer. This is why I ended up only talking over the phone. What a shame. There's someone from the Liberty Linux team in the OpenELA Slack (Which you should join) I could possibly ask more questions if I wanted to.
It all got a bit muddled when time was called on Centos, but its getting clearer again now in terms of running a free platform o/s whilst still being "intune" with RHEL...
Mostly, no; but possibly yes. RHEL sets the standard, and to retain compatibility the others match it. RHEL favours long-term stability, so major releases retain the same major/minor kernel version throughout their life and backport select fixes from newer kernels. That said, CIQ has recently announced a service offering to support upstream kernels on Rocky Linux. I believe this is a commercial CIQ product and not part of the Rocky Linux project itself; but there's also a Rocky Linux Kernel SIG that may be bringing support to the community project as well. Worth keeping an eye on as it evolves.
@@ProTechShow thanks for comprehensive answer. I guess I'll go with the Ubuntu server then, it's not EL but at least you can squeeze maximum performance from EPYC Genoa-X chips
I'd say it's swings and roundabouts. Open source has too much drama, agreed, but someone can always fork if they don't like the way something is going. With proprietary software there is usually less drama; but also less recourse when a dominant company decides to shaft their customers, because they hold all the cards (see: Broadcom unilaterally cancelling VMware partner contracts).
Fun fact: SUSE changed the page for Liberty Linux and made it more clear its a support contract because of me.
It used to say "Request demo" instead of "Request pricing".
I was under the impression that Liberty Linux was a fork of RHEL. Curious to learn more about it and possibly get my hands on an ISO image I contacted them requesting a "demo". I spoke to a couple people on the phone about it still under the impression. Once I was able to have a meeting with someone I asked about the distribution and let them know my intent to learn about it. I was informed that it is a support contract and they apologized for the confusion. I was pleased with what I could gather. A day or so passes before the page was changed.
At least they made it a bit clearer after you talked with them. The name "Liberty Linux" does sound more like a distro than a support service.
I wonder how "Request demo" would have worked... wreck a server then click the button and say "I would like a demonstration of your support please"? Could have had a bit of fun with it!
@@ProTechShow it definitely didn't help that many news sources said Liberty Linux was a fork of RHEL. As far as I know you're the only one who got it right. Which is awesome!
As for the demo part MS Teams was acting up for me, so they couldn't show me anything Liberty Linux had to offer. This is why I ended up only talking over the phone. What a shame.
There's someone from the Liberty Linux team in the OpenELA Slack (Which you should join) I could possibly ask more questions if I wanted to.
Informative video. Thanks.
Thanks 🙂
It all got a bit muddled when time was called on Centos, but its getting clearer again now in terms of running a free platform o/s whilst still being "intune" with RHEL...
Well-paced explanations, happy to share!
Thanks!
Great history lesson. Hopefully it gets more views:)
Thanks! I won't complain if you share it around to help with the views. 😉
Is there a way of using EL with modern kernels, i.e. 6.x version?
Mostly, no; but possibly yes.
RHEL sets the standard, and to retain compatibility the others match it. RHEL favours long-term stability, so major releases retain the same major/minor kernel version throughout their life and backport select fixes from newer kernels.
That said, CIQ has recently announced a service offering to support upstream kernels on Rocky Linux. I believe this is a commercial CIQ product and not part of the Rocky Linux project itself; but there's also a Rocky Linux Kernel SIG that may be bringing support to the community project as well. Worth keeping an eye on as it evolves.
@@ProTechShow thanks for comprehensive answer. I guess I'll go with the Ubuntu server then, it's not EL but at least you can squeeze maximum performance from EPYC Genoa-X chips
Im having problems with my pc could you help?
No mention of Nix? Awww. :(
Still, great video, thumbsup.
Not in this one, sorry! Thanks though 🙂
Should be called GreedyHat
good one
Ad THIS is why IT professional don't put all their eggs in the Linux basket.
Much Drama
I'd say it's swings and roundabouts. Open source has too much drama, agreed, but someone can always fork if they don't like the way something is going.
With proprietary software there is usually less drama; but also less recourse when a dominant company decides to shaft their customers, because they hold all the cards (see: Broadcom unilaterally cancelling VMware partner contracts).