In Korea, being warmly welcoming, engaging in conversation, and giving compliments are expressions of friendliness. Marina and Ilham have both lived in Korea for a long time and should understand this. If they do not know it, that is a problem in itself because one must be aware of the culture where they live. I felt disheartened when I saw someone belittling this as insincere while tearing down other women.
The two came in and stopped talking badly, they left and the two continued, I found it very ugly and unnecessary, if you don't like it, say it to their face, behind their backs it's very ugly 😢
The translations here might also be part of the issue, as things can sometimes get lost or misinterpreted. I think what Ilham and Marina are really reacting to is the feeling that the other two might be “putting on for the cameras.” Maybe that's the case, maybe not. Maybe they couldn’t express it exactly that way, but that seems to be their point but it came across as mean. Ilham and Marina have very different personalities-they’re not as animated or “in your face” as the other two. For people from different cultures, that kind of behavior can come across as over the top or even insincere, even if that’s not the intention. It’s just a matter of different perspectives, cultural diffrences and personal preferences. For example, stepping into a room early in the morning and being loud or shouting something like "wow" might feel very annoying because where I’m from, people don’t behave like that. We typically say a simple “good morning” and ease into a conversation. Anything else would come across as disrespectful.
The two girls from Japan and South Korea, who faced criticism, are not only warm towards the boys but also very friendly and lovely to the other two girls from Morocco and France. Even if they were more enthusiastic on purpose, it wasn't to compete for the attention of the boys in this clip. They are not stealing anyone's husband; everyone is here to compete for love.They hadn’t done anything wrong to Ilham and Marina. Unlike Ilham and Marina, who gossip behind others’ backs, deliberately speak in a language that others don't understand, and ignore people of poor character, the Japanese and South Korean participants do not undermine other women. If you defend Ilham and Marina without considering their behavior, I suspect that you might be exhibiting a form of bias. Moreover, did you even watch the entire show? This incident occurred right after the first meeting, and it wasn't even early in the morning.
First off, let’s clarify that I’m not defending anyone-I was simply pointing out the potential cultural differences at play. If you're so quick to label the Japanese and South Korean participants as 'warm' and 'lovely,' maybe you should also acknowledge that everyone’s behavior is subjective and could be interpreted differently, especially when cultural clashes are involved. Just because someone seems friendly doesn't automatically mean there isn't tension or misunderstanding beneath the surface. We also need to keep in mind that we don't see everything-there could be a lot happening off-camera that we're not privy to. I didn’t say anything negative about any of the four girls, but it seems like you're choosing to ignore what I was actually trying to say. Let’s not overanalyze or act like this is some deep-rooted issue when it might simply be a clash of personalities and cultures. No need to be rude by asking if or making assumptions that I have not watched the entire episode just because I have a different opinion than you. I didn’t just pick and choose the parts I’d pretend to understand
@@tionne4945 Since your comment has been edited, I don't understand why I initially thought you were trying to help Marina and Ilham by defending them. I'm not trying to provoke cultural conflicts; I'm simply sharing my thoughts on Marina and Ilham as individuals. If you truly watched the full episode, you would see that their behavior is quite poor. Furthermore, you're indirectly suggesting that editing has played a role in how they are portrayed. However, since they are participating in a reality show, they should be aware of the consequences of their words; they know what to say and what not to say. We are all adults, and everyone is responsible for their actions.
@@christykim-tc9yy I understand your viewpoint, but I have to respectfully disagree with the notion that Marina and Ilham should be fully aware of the consequences of their words in such a high-pressure environment. Reality shows are not the same as normal life, and the dynamics at play can make people act differently than they would in everyday situations. Just because they’re on television doesn’t mean they should be expected to behave flawlessly, especially under the scrutiny of cameras and constant attention. When you say "they know what to say and what not to say," you're assuming that they have complete control over their actions in the heat of the moment. The reality is that reality TV contestants, like anyone, can make mistakes or act impulsively, and that doesn't necessarily reflect their true character. We're all human, and expecting perfect behavior just because someone is on a show sets an unrealistic standard. Finally, while it's true that adults are responsible for their actions, there is a broader context here that must be considered. People are often shaped by their environment, and in the case of reality TV, that environment is designed to provoke extreme reactions. So while responsibility is key, we must also acknowledge the complexity of these situations instead of assuming simple cause-and-effect. At the end of the day, we can respectfully agree to disagree on this matter, as we clearly have different perspectives on how the situation should be viewed.
@@tionne4945 No offense to you individually, but I sensed that you were uncomfortable with my criticism of some individuals who acted poorly in the clip. I'm not saying they should not be themselves, but TV shows often emphasize the most dramatic aspects of situations. Different perspectives are inevitable. If participants or audiences wish to receive only positive or neutral feedback, they should be mindful of their words and actions. There are respectful ways to express preferences. While everyone is free to behave as they choose on the show, neither the audience nor the participants should be upset if those actions result in negative consequences. We cannot evaluate someone like we’re grading a textbook on a scale from 0 to 100. Instead, we should judge them based on their actions, words, and body language. Even a brief encounter can leave a lasting impression, which contributes to how others perceive them. Since we encounter many people regularly, this understanding is significant. Most people in our lives do not have the time or patience to get to know each individual thoroughly. A harmonious atmosphere is a wonderful thing, but it is built on respect.
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In Korea, being warmly welcoming, engaging in conversation, and giving compliments are expressions of friendliness. Marina and Ilham have both lived in Korea for a long time and should understand this. If they do not know it, that is a problem in itself because one must be aware of the culture where they live. I felt disheartened when I saw someone belittling this as insincere while tearing down other women.
The two came in and stopped talking badly, they left and the two continued, I found it very ugly and unnecessary, if you don't like it, say it to their face, behind their backs it's very ugly 😢
and its funny that they mentioned they were fake on top of that, when they themselves act like that
자기 스타일대로 할 수 있다고 이해 한다면서 왜 가식이라고 조롱하는 거지? 친해지려고 방에도 와보고 말도 거는 걸 텐데 자기랑 다르다고 저렇게 싫어하고 뒷담 까도 되는건가? 저렇게 예의없이 구는 것보단 차라리 가식이 나아요 ㅜ
그노매 질투가 문제야 어리석네 서로응원하면서 즐겁게 지내면되는건데 애들처럼 갈등을 만들어버리네
마리나 0화에서 호감이었는데 걍 한국에서 인기 못얻고 흑화한 쿨병녀엿음
Yuna and Mao 💖💖💖💖💖 Marina and Ilham 🙄🙄👎👎👎👎
Insecure imao
I hate Mao's voice.Too noisey😅
The translations here might also be part of the issue, as things can sometimes get lost or misinterpreted. I think what Ilham and Marina are really reacting to is the feeling that the other two might be “putting on for the cameras.” Maybe that's the case, maybe not. Maybe they couldn’t express it exactly that way, but that seems to be their point but it came across as mean.
Ilham and Marina have very different personalities-they’re not as animated or “in your face” as the other two. For people from different cultures, that kind of behavior can come across as over the top or even insincere, even if that’s not the intention. It’s just a matter of different perspectives, cultural diffrences and personal preferences. For example, stepping into a room early in the morning and being loud or shouting something like "wow" might feel very annoying because where I’m from, people don’t behave like that. We typically say a simple “good morning” and ease into a conversation. Anything else would come across as disrespectful.
The two girls from Japan and South Korea, who faced criticism, are not only warm towards the boys but also very friendly and lovely to the other two girls from Morocco and France. Even if they were more enthusiastic on purpose, it wasn't to compete for the attention of the boys in this clip. They are not stealing anyone's husband; everyone is here to compete for love.They hadn’t done anything wrong to Ilham and Marina. Unlike Ilham and Marina, who gossip behind others’ backs, deliberately speak in a language that others don't understand, and ignore people of poor character, the Japanese and South Korean participants do not undermine other women. If you defend Ilham and Marina without considering their behavior, I suspect that you might be exhibiting a form of bias. Moreover, did you even watch the entire show? This incident occurred right after the first meeting, and it wasn't even early in the morning.
First off, let’s clarify that I’m not defending anyone-I was simply pointing out the potential cultural differences at play. If you're so quick to label the Japanese and South Korean participants as 'warm' and 'lovely,' maybe you should also acknowledge that everyone’s behavior is subjective and could be interpreted differently, especially when cultural clashes are involved. Just because someone seems friendly doesn't automatically mean there isn't tension or misunderstanding beneath the surface. We also need to keep in mind that we don't see everything-there could be a lot happening off-camera that we're not privy to. I didn’t say anything negative about any of the four girls, but it seems like you're choosing to ignore what I was actually trying to say. Let’s not overanalyze or act like this is some deep-rooted issue when it might simply be a clash of personalities and cultures.
No need to be rude by asking if or making assumptions that I have not watched the entire episode just because I have a different opinion than you. I didn’t just pick and choose the parts I’d pretend to understand
@@tionne4945 Since your comment has been edited, I don't understand why I initially thought you were trying to help Marina and Ilham by defending them. I'm not trying to provoke cultural conflicts; I'm simply sharing my thoughts on Marina and Ilham as individuals. If you truly watched the full episode, you would see that their behavior is quite poor. Furthermore, you're indirectly suggesting that editing has played a role in how they are portrayed. However, since they are participating in a reality show, they should be aware of the consequences of their words; they know what to say and what not to say. We are all adults, and everyone is responsible for their actions.
@@christykim-tc9yy I understand your viewpoint, but I have to respectfully disagree with the notion that Marina and Ilham should be fully aware of the consequences of their words in such a high-pressure environment. Reality shows are not the same as normal life, and the dynamics at play can make people act differently than they would in everyday situations. Just because they’re on television doesn’t mean they should be expected to behave flawlessly, especially under the scrutiny of cameras and constant attention.
When you say "they know what to say and what not to say," you're assuming that they have complete control over their actions in the heat of the moment. The reality is that reality TV contestants, like anyone, can make mistakes or act impulsively, and that doesn't necessarily reflect their true character. We're all human, and expecting perfect behavior just because someone is on a show sets an unrealistic standard.
Finally, while it's true that adults are responsible for their actions, there is a broader context here that must be considered. People are often shaped by their environment, and in the case of reality TV, that environment is designed to provoke extreme reactions. So while responsibility is key, we must also acknowledge the complexity of these situations instead of assuming simple cause-and-effect. At the end of the day, we can respectfully agree to disagree on this matter, as we clearly have different perspectives on how the situation should be viewed.
@@tionne4945 No offense to you individually, but I sensed that you were uncomfortable with my criticism of some individuals who acted poorly in the clip. I'm not saying they should not be themselves, but TV shows often emphasize the most dramatic aspects of situations. Different perspectives are inevitable.
If participants or audiences wish to receive only positive or neutral feedback, they should be mindful of their words and actions. There are respectful ways to express preferences. While everyone is free to behave as they choose on the show, neither the audience nor the participants should be upset if those actions result in negative consequences.
We cannot evaluate someone like we’re grading a textbook on a scale from 0 to 100. Instead, we should judge them based on their actions, words, and body language. Even a brief encounter can leave a lasting impression, which contributes to how others perceive them. Since we encounter many people regularly, this understanding is significant. Most people in our lives do not have the time or patience to get to know each individual thoroughly. A harmonious atmosphere is a wonderful thing, but it is built on respect.