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Quentin Miller: I Got a $30K Publishing Advance & They Took All My Drake Money (Part 10)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ม.ค. 2023
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In this clip, Quentin Miller continued to discuss the bad publishing deal he signed. He admitted to signing a “f*** deal” despite not disclosing all the details within the contract. Quentin said his deal came with a $30,000 advance but also ended up taking the money he made writing for Drake.
His story is damn near heartbreaking. That fact that he can sit there smiling and being positive is great.
Fake smiles solve nothing.
He has a victim mentality
Similar to how waka mom did oj da juiceman SMH real niggas from the 6 . Gucci was right Drake groupie Drake callin Toronto the 6 around Gucci got locked up and the tape ' if you reading ' it's done by Miller he from zone 6 , .
@@ZOM23official You can get caught up when you’re hungry. But I would never do business with Snake Graham personally
I swear like this man was robbed blind and I'm here like if I were to blow up how badly would I be robbed
A 30k loan cost this man well over a million dollars. Wow...this is truly heartbreaking bro
He needs and auditor and a lawyer those draje songs making millions their no way they didn’t get all that money its sad af
Just said the same easily lost a million
Bro should be confronting OVO and Birdman
@@mrkilo-g8794 to get killed? LoL.
@@Kcseales Yea 🤣 to finish him off, they already injured him badly
They did this man so dirty
Facts smh 🤦🏾♂️
I feel bad for him. I do see with his demeanor and how soft spoken he is niggas taking advantage of him. You have to have a bold character.people will treat you how you allow them
The jews
@@Beantown-ld1sg for real. He seems super laid back and nice so they finessed him. It’s a dog eat dog business.
Word and what's crazy is Quentin actually makes great music....Music biz is ruthless...
Everyone out there: DEFEND yourself. Don’t let people walk all over you by trying to appease to their humanity. It doesn’t work.
Nope it doesn't.. it actually makes it worse in the long run
He seen he was working with Drake & dropped everything and started signing shit smh
@@deprivome938 Bro got starstruck over another man and couldnt think straight Lmao
@@ZOM23official i kinda feel where he came from a little bit. He wanted to succeed in life and he thought if he take too long to sign shit his chance going be blown. But these industry mfs is not ya friends
I felt it when he said... "Why ain't y'all take me in and show me how to make money off this publishing shit".
He wanted to cry you can hear it in his voice
maaann i'd be in jail if niggas did me this dirty. but that's why i'mma hooligan
its crazy people actually think this way. stop being lazy, get off your ass and learn yourself. why would anyone teach you anything for free
@@hooligan5381 lmao
@@hooligan5381😂😂😂😂
If I ever get big, I would love to hire this man as my producer. He deserves all the W’s.
He is a writer not producer
somebody gonna pay him to write music for them but he don't want to be a ghostwriter pull off the sheet lol
You gotta make sure your circle is so top notch, and paper is long because the people who hate on him will make sure you feel it too
U wanna hire a low budget CB4 character
Pick another lane. You are not making it big.
That's messed up man, and the most messed up part about it is people still spend money with those types of people.
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Quinten millers story is the epitome of “no good deed goes unpunished.”
I hate quotes like that because they literally make NO sense
@@pierrefab7185 it’s a proverb. It basically says that peoples kindness can unfortunately backfire on them, people who are overly kind are doomed to suffer as a direct or indirect result of their willingness to help.
@@pierrefab7185 I hate people that can’t understand basic quotes because they have room temperature IQ. What’s so hard about these quote Bruh?
@@pierrefab7185 bro if that quote doesn't make since to u then u haven't been thru enough bs in life yet. Cuz im tellin u rite now that quote is so mtf true.. its almost scary how true it is
@@shawn1819 amen
Im never signing any paperwork or contract of any kind until me and my lawyers have read through its entirety multiple times
What if your lawyers fuck you over?
It's not about that it's about how bad you need the money at the moment he was working in a bakery so he wanted that money bad that's how most rappers get caught up always have your own money
I had to hire a lawyer to file a lawsuit on my original lawyer.
The thing is this guy is super talented and still drops str8 heat to this day he will be okay and more blessings will come
“They Look Like Me “ Damn That Shit Hurt , I Felt That
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Yeah for real
@@romello4913 For a you know what & bag of weed.
Quentin needs to do a surviving drake documentary
I really think one is forthcoming.
It’s really not drakes fault tho , it was that publishing deal !!!
It wasn't drake it was that label he was signed 2 that fucked him
@@warmtrees4013 yeah and this really stemmed from Meek’s jealousy.
I'd say its more of a Surviving Meek documentary because Drake was trying to help him out
""DRAKE"" IF YOU READING THIS. IT'S NOT TOO LATE. SEND THIS MAN SOME REAL MONEY. NO MATTER WHETHER YOU OWE QUENTIN OR NOT. JUST SEND HIM A BIG CHECK AND WRITE IT OFF. 🙏🏿
Or send two boxes of pampers and baby wipes: One for Quentin, the other for his baby.
Dude spent more betting on the world cup lol
His publishing company will find a way to take that too.
You can’t write everything off dummy y’all don’t know shit about taxes or business
Drake needs to just help bro out
This story gets more and more tragic smh
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Quentin…this happened to me TWICE as a youngster. Fortunately for you, you still have time and energy going on your side. When it happened to me, it took away my momentum completely. Thank god somebody else didn’t share my misfortune in the industry
what's your story OG?
This is how it is in life. You have to fight for everything. He should have went to a big time lawyer right away before signing anything with Drake and had them look everything over. Trusting people and thinking you are cool with them now will never work out. They are cool with you until they get what they want. After that they forget quick on how much you helped them
Facts
He was broke and unknown. I don't know how he would've been able to get services from a big time lawyer
@@IllDawgable lol trust me when you go to a big time lawyer and say I'm negotiating a bunch of new Drake songs they'll take your case. They'll say well negotiate payment after I get you the deal of a lifetime. If he got this guy $5 million I'm sure he would have been more than happy to pay the lawyer a million dollars for it. Instead he did it himself and got 30k... Could have made the same money working at McDonalds
Shit bro sometime the big time lawyers be in bed wit the labels!
He probably couldn't afford a lawyer. And I know people say read the contract but contracts are not written in plain simple English for a reason. It doesn't matter what the contract looks like what it says there are always hidden agreements in there. Drake knew his situation and played on that, so foul.
Look at the positives my bro . One thing we know you know how to do is make music . Keep pushing G
ayo 😂that's not a positive i'm sure he'd like his leg back
The thing about it is that the publishing company would have made so much more money if they treated him better. He was writing for the hottest artists at the time. They could have made him a prolific writer and everyone could have ate. Not on come cumbiyah shit but on some win-win situation.
Dude as been in the middle of so much industry bs and controversy and all he’s done is make everyone rich but himself. You can tell he’s genuine dude who was in water filled with sharks.
@Big dic1 how so
@Big dic1 can you shut up with that! Obviously he was desperate. Maybe didn’t have the money hire a entertainment lawyer
@Big dic1 you talk all this shit but would sell yo soul for 5 bands
I feel his pain!! It happened to me and my production team early on but stay strong and keep hustling!
Im a fellow producer myself big bro, finally feel ready to hatch out my cocoon and spread my wings. Any advice youd be gracious enough to share?
@@guapetina9734 Trust nobody, Lawyer Up, Contracts, learn from other producer mistakes & ask questions. Get paid!
@@ZOM23official Appreciate brother, good lookin
_"The game is to be sold not to be told."_
Took the words right out my head!! And it ain’t based on sympathy! Can’t be all help me and what about me… with mf who sharks! This shit dog eat dog
He only has himself to blame. He couldeve negotiated w them. Don't take they word for shit. Just cus someone looks like u don't mean u could trust them. Lesson learned.
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No he couldn't. He had no leverage.
He was a guy sweeping up a warehouse in Atlanta when he signed his publishing deal.
Yes, he technically could have declined the deal but let's not act as if he was in a position to dictate terms.
Most ain't gonna negotiate if they don't have to.
@@OnYourSquare exactly bro they don’t get it
It’s crazy that being a good person really allowed this man to get messed over. I hope he gets his blessings a thousand times over
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Apparently that's how it is in those types of industries. Being a good and upstanding person is prime rib to some people. Definitely could never enter an industry like that!
in any other competitive field, is being a "good person" ever beneficial ? You good guys never win in competition its the guys who know the game that win. No virtue in being a good person in a shady business you have to be STERN and SHRUDE and sometimes outright mean and unagreeable.
@@JAYSPLASHMUSIC “you good guys” wtf I got to do with this dude.
I’ve never wanted to c someone in music win SO bad….
Cap bruh does music ain’t nobody supporting his shit
It’s simple … DONT SIGN ANYTHING until someone capable of understanding the contract can explain it to you in terms YOU CAN UNDERSTAND !!!!!
That's easier said than done when you're BROKE fam, which clearly he was
@@PizzleP thank you! You can tell he desperate and needed the money. 30k goes quick if you have bills
@@PizzleP It doesn't matter if you are Broke. You will still be Broke if you sign a bad deal. Education will cost you something. Ignorance will cost you way more guaranteed'
@@PizzleP thank you this is what people don't understand they get you at your lowest
@@andreroy8141 Grand scheme thinking you're correct, but maybe I didn't specify my stance clear enough. If I'm already BROKE how do I afford an attorney (one who specializes in Entertainment contracts) to look over my contract? What happens if said lawyer comes back and says "this is a bad deal" and the label makes no counter offer? Now I'm not signing the deal and I owe an attorney money. No one is doing this shit for free. You need Money to retain the lawyer in the first place and that's IMPOSSIBLE to do if you don't have any.
I'm not speaking from a place of ignorance, I'm speaking from a place of knowledge. I have my Master's Degree in Entertainment Business from Full Sail University, I know a little something on the topic. A "regular" lawyer 9 times out of 10 won't know or understand Entertainment contracts or verbiage. You NEED someone who specializes in that. It's not as black and white as you and the initial commenter are making it out to be.
As a ghost writer with over 200 songs written that I've been shopping, I'm glad I watched this💪🏾💯
He was expecting ppl to be as genuine as he is. Huge mistake ! Took me a while to learn it to so I don’t blame him
He wants people to hold his hand and show him the way..
The best advice I've heard from someone close is "be a good guy, but don't waste your time and put your efforts to prove it"
@@kishoremb9809 so what alot of people in music industry got showed the way from wayne to drake and jay z
That's INSANE this man wrote atleast 6 Drake songs and got paid 30K, so your telling me he would of got paid more working at Mcdonalds???!!! Oh nah that ain't right. Someone needs to pay this man.
Are you listening? Got 30K advance and royalties, however, his publishing company signed to is taking all of his money.
I'll say this, the fact that people are extremely successful and still giving out bad deals is alarming.
Vlad, we need that Tricky interview next so we can see him cap in person lol.
That’s how they stay “successful.” It cost penny’s to give an artist 20 to 50k. They’re starving, so that’s a lot of money to them. But over a lifetime of a catalog they’ll make it back times 10. It’s another stream of income for them. Diddy did the same to Biggie. Quentin doesn’t know any better. There is a way you can around that. Especially, being a ghost writer. He wanted the clout from being on a Drake record, though. And that’s how they got his money off the records.
Lol speak on it P 😂
@@sincityquinn all facts but by 2016, tricky shouldn't been up 50 m's lol. prob from a combo of bad deals and early hits. just terrible smh
Love this type of journalism and giving people a voice 💯
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If there’s one thing I know about life is that Everything does happen for a reason. I always been a fan on Quentin from no reason to chosen. I promise bro, keep being true to you and keep your karma clean. God got something big planned for you fasho 🎸🎸
Evil world we live in 💯
Damn bruh, prayers to the homie, he mad resilient with everything he’s been through
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There was a video of Drake at a party a few months ago and he even said that the term “it’s business not personal is the biggest lie told in the entertainment industry” so I know for a fact he felt fucked up about this situation as well as others that may have not went as planned. I mean this is the same guy that got mad at The Weeknd for not signing, those two have always had a weird relationship since then.
Why would he feel fuck up he wasn't sign to him
He was not mad at The Weeknd dawg
@@RocketsVsPelicans504 He was.
@@RocketsVsPelicans504yeah he was it’s supposed to be ovo x xo
@@RocketsVsPelicans504 5am in Toronto says otherwise 🤣
All he does it talk about getting beat up and robbed. He’s the new Yung Berg.
Yea is he putting out music?
I've been researching dude... he was young when all the music with drake started... he definitely got taken advantage of... multi millions studio people swindled him... Drake acted like he did the homie a favor of working with this talented dude... barely gave him any credit for the writing he layed down... makes you think if he had a lawyer representing or agent he would've had massive racks 💵💵💵💵
That's why u gotta have all ur ducks in a row before u jump in da water lol
@@nickelbus7596 he didn't have the resources for that. Not to mention most people sign bad deals coming in the game. Including Drake. Believe it or QM story is not even one of the most extreme cases. This is how people in the music business are. Two faced af!. Make you feel like family just to Rob you
@@CoachRayne ion trust nobody so I already know 😅
Damn, this is the saddest story ever. Yo wrote for some significant artists, in a space where being a ghost writer can be lucrative yo ended up getting used all the way up.
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Why couldn't he save up money from the bakery/warehouse jobs to just get a lawyer, paralegal to go over his paperwork before he even signed anything? It's not that expensive tbh
Vlad Says I’m Sorry To Hear That Now But In Later Interviews Vlad Is Going To Shit On Him And Say He Should Of Known Better
On me. Bruh set himself up fo dat. Still sucks tho
I’m lost for words how they did this man like he said I gotta buy my daughter a tablet wtf about me damn!!
It's best to get all your money up front.. No money no deal 💯
DAMN WE SHOULD START A GO FUND ME FOR QUENTIN MILLER HOMIE REALLT GOING THROUGH IT
Basically he is asking the crooks why did you rob me instead of helping me rob someone else 😂
3:06 “show me the way” 😬
🙃 they did
They surely did
He's going to eventually win and it will be real. Keep your spirit and work ethic young man
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@@thedecafe1 🤜🏽🤛🏽
Sorry to hear that hope you bounce back an get right
Learn the business first children! They con you with being cool than they go in for the kill…
He can’t even explain how he got finessed 😢
He could've been a Millionaire if the companies didn't make him sell his points
He will be blessed down the line, I guarantee. He definitely better than me. I would’ve put tricky in a “tricky” situation about my bread and foul play.
Naw fr fr on on God lots of "foul play" bout me money$$$$$$
So many stories of young artist getting taken advantage of it’s apart of the game unfortunately hopefully you’re able to bounce back. The scariest part of the industry being an artist myself, but watching everybody else get fucked I’m prepared
They did home dirty BUT every dog has its day
F em
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Sometimes bad things happen to good people … But , rest assured God never forgets our good deeds and all in due time good things come to those who wait… He seems like a man with a big heart … I hope he gets every dime he’s worked for with interest…
We all have family members like him that been taking advantage of 😢
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This is why you hire a great attorney in the entertainment industry
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That beating Meek Mill got in Ghana was for him messing up Quentin Miller's money and life. He deserved it.
What happened with meek in Ghana
The more and more he talks all I hear is “I should’ve took that cash from Meek”.
Quentin, i wish u the world my brother🙏🏼💪🏽
I’d gladly take the 30 piece too.
It’s personal at this point. Messing with my livelihood. SMH sad. You can hear and see the hurt. Gotta stop signing these fucked up deals outta desperation
Dude is just too nice. This is why nice guys finish last in life. Being fair doesn't mean you have to be nice. He's just too soft..
I get it. He's a cornerstone. It's hard to hold your corner and master the rest of the board.
Best advice I've heard, pay an attorney to look over everything before you sign anything.
Personally, 2 attorneys, one out of state and one local.
Take that info and make a decision. Best of luck.
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if Drake had an heart he would send this dude a nice check...because he wrote him some nice tunes ....dude nobody teaches you nothing when they get FCKED you over this game heartless
Lol why should drake owe him loyalty?
Y he did 6 songs wit the guy…how is it drakes fault?
@@eromoseleebozele7802 he don't but you can't be that heartless to somebody who gave you so much
Them songs was corny.
Drake had to be publicly shamed into being in his child’s life. Guy doesn’t have a heart
😑 He didn't keep $30,000. He probably got 25. Federal and State took 5.
This publishing company probably owns his future catalog as well lololol I'm 😂 not at him but how shameful the world is
Think about it during the situation
“Man you crazy if you don’t take the 30 thousand from drake, just take the money”
He was probably thinking no it’s bad cuz 30 thousand to drake is like 5 thousand…. Which will make drake 1 million…
I'm convinced that people who sign these deals don't like money why wouldn't you read it or get a lawyer to before you sign it
Stay taking Al’s, no one to blame by himself in this day and age with all these informations.
Hey, Quentin! Can you write a couple of hits for me? I promise to pay you once the money starts rolling. Thanks, bro!
I gotcha G.. how many u need??
@@TheCuttyBrown 18 🔥 tracks should cover two albums. Don’t forget....I gotchu, bro (after I recoup the first two million)
@@driversseat1707
That sounds exactly like bow it happened. A handshake and a promise, then he got nothing!
@@driversseat1707 bet...
Smh...the side that couldn't keep using him tried to shame him. Keep pushing Q!
Tricky Stewart seems like such a nice, god loving dude. Meanwhile snaked this young man for almost 10 years. Imagine how many more we don't know about.
You have to look at it from the other side. Most of the time, when you sign a songwriter with no name you don't recoup the upfront money. Quentin was one of those exceptions
Hey Q. I feel your pain but here go some game. In life we learn more from the losses than our Wins. So this was your education. Now Dr. Dre the situation. Your talent is still viable. Open your own publishing company and find the next Drake! The best get back is a strong comeback💰🏦💸
Drake should personally give this man more life. He s cool af
Damn this is a sad story
We should support this guy and his music. I wanna see him win.
What Drake Say "Id Rather Lose My Leg Than Lose They Respect" 🤷🏾♂️
Qmiller wrote that
But he still can't survive on his own?@@ThaProfitTv
A legit pub deal is suppose to pay you every month like a job to write songs for artists associated with the company as well as give you access to all relationships with the company
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If I had the money, I'd hire this talented man. I feel so sorry for him right now. I hope he gets something good for himself
👑 wait for the call bro …. Everything will line up for you and a blesser will bring forth what you deserve bro 👑
He could easily sue them get a decent amount of money back but he doesn’t seem to be wired that way
Easily? It costs money to sue. And it would cost an exorbitant amount to sue a well known publishing company. Bro don’t seem like he ballin at all
He could do that! But he's mentally weak and expects other adults to take care of him. He won't do anything to help himself.
How could he sue if the contract he signed noted they own his publishing?
There’s obviously something wrong in his contract if he seen zero pub and no more advances. Any good lawyer would take this case on and discuss fees afterwards if they felt it was a winnable case
@@lexdiamond20 contracts get voided all the time if they were ruled predatory or if one of the signers had ineffective council.
i feel so bad for him, but how do you even sign a deal like that??
Working at a bakery if Drake tells u I’m gonna give u $30k u gonna run with it cause it’s Drake bottom line
@@4pkp4pkp drake didn't give him the advance, the publishing company he signed with did
Speechless - Me and Vlad
Shoutout to Vlad for giving him some shine again!
Damn Vlad Chuckled 😂at the 30 Grand part. They made a easy million plus off him
More than 10 million easily. This was Drake at his prime. They could have even toured together easily. And there are songwriters who retired after that big one hit. The reality is this guy is too naive for his own good. I used to be like that at one point so I don't blame him
@@kishoremb9809 Tour together with a guy that helped you on some songs. How that work? Nah tricky nd dem fucked this guy up. He probably didnt even read the contract, way too naive. I feel bad for him tho.
@@BanlieueBaby what's surprising is that he still doesn't get it. His mentality is that I'm a genuine guy and the whole world should be generous to me. That's hypocrisy .
$30k is what Drake spends on drinks in one night. I’ve never heard of this guy but how could he be that naive in this day and age? Does he have a drug habit.
It’s very easy for people to put you into a deal that you’re not literate in and exploit the hell out of you. If he put his trust in someone, that’s not really his fault. He believed that they would be good people, not ones who would take everything from him. Don’t be a moron all your life.
Why are you bringing up his drug habits?
It's not bring naive...he came in the game with no leverage. He probably didn't write for anyone major prior to signing his publishing deal so he took what was offered hoping the tricky situation would turn into something else
@@jesussinaloa9300 No leverage dont mean u should sing anything. If you wanna built your name up just work for free nd get yours in the backend. He's too naive. Very sad situation.
@Chainofcommand opportunity is hard to come by in the music business. If you was trying to make it in the industry you would understand. Your more likely to be unsuccessful then successful.Take it from someone that's been writing songs for 20 years and rubbed shoulders with some big names in the industry. If you working in a bakery for minimum wage like Quentin Miller and been handing out demos for years then out of nowhere a multi-platinum producer offers you a deal, most people gonna take it especially if they don't have any other options but to keep working in a bakery.
I understand how he feels. It’s the same thing in the trucking business. Nobody give a fuck about you or your situation.
This is why you spend time cultivating relationships with an audience, not industry people who are trying to scramble to maintain an audience
i’m sorry but he is so dense for doing favors without having anybody in his corner defending him. like vlad said i don’t understand the business details. he was doing things for free and off the muscle of being a fan of these ppl. ain’t nobody yo friend fr fr.
It was not drake who exploited him it was the publishing company he signed too. They are probably still getting paid off of him. He needs a lawyer and muscle to go get his money . The music industry prey on people like QM
This happened for a number of reasons, but one of the many solutions (a lil deep) is for fathers to stay in their kids’ lives…a lot of Dads would instill “they got you fxcked up” energy in their sons…opinion…
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they need to pay this man for every music he created and everytime its streamed
There is no way the publisher got 100 percent of it. That makes zero sense because they can only take 50 percent of the song and the writer/producer split the other 50 percent. There is definitely more to the story. I was checking out the Song Info for some of the songs he wrote and he got a decent percentage under HIS name and not the publisher. On the song 10 bandz by Drake it looks like Quentin got 30 percent. So idk there is definitely more to this story then he’s letting on.
His 30% is 100% going to tricky
@@xboneava He splits 50 percent with the other writers. If you look it says he has ASCAP and it shows what percent the ascap writer got. On 10 bandz it says he got 30 percent under his name. I’m not sure what how much the publisher got.
If someone has a platform I’ll explain what I’m talking about and break it down.
It’s a book on Amazon called everything you need to know about the music business. It’s been out for years. Must read before you sign a contract. Don’t ever sign over publishing rights.
This needs to get out there. Greed will be the demise of humanity, starts with morals!!!! Be safe every, jizzy strikes agin😂😂😂
I’ll always root for this dude.
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Let's set up a GO FUnD Me for Quentin. He has brought All of Us good times with all the music he has collaborated On.
I’ve had very similar experiences. The game ain’t built for ppl with integrity, you expect ppl to move how you would and they don’t.
He actually looks a lot like a dude that only loves his bed and his mother and might feel sorry about those feelings!
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This dudes problem was getting a measly 30k and thinking he ain't gotta go to work nomore
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Starts off the interview implying he wrote way more for drake then he was credited for
He did, I think he’s not even credited on rico but he wrote the songs