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My dad bought me a fender duo sonic in 65. Somebody stole it from me in 71. I bought a 2018 duo sonic. It's a sweet little guitar. I haven't had to change the set up or anything. I think it may be an even better playing guitar than the 65 model.
Tuning and stability for this and the Jag are very simple... use the strings they were designed for. Flatwound 13s. If you're using lighter strings, they need to be tuned up to a similar tension. I had one that I kept 8s on tuned up to A. When stringing them up, push the bridge all the way towards the neck end of the wobble, get tension on the strings and press the trem all the way down against the pickguard, release and tune the rest of the way. The bridge will end up right where it needs to be.
There should be a couple allen screws in the posts that use the same wrench as the saddles inserted into the holes on the top of the bridge in the center of each post. They are what the bridge pivots on. You can loosen those to lower the entire bridge to keep from decking the saddles on the bridge plate.
I have never had issues using 9s on mine, the store I bought it from did full set up, so they likely did some adjusting that way But never needed a truss rod adjustment, or change to intonation, etc.
I never had any issues with the switches on my Mustang, it’s been so intuitive for me. I have never had any tuning issues. I have other guitars I use and love, but I tend to play my Mustang and Epi LP Special the most. Now my Mustang is an older one, and maybe the Vintera ones aren’t as good, but this video is so opposite of my experience with Mustangs. Not every guitar will please every player, and that’s okay, but wow, my experience couldn’t be more different.
Hi, if guitars bridge is set up properly and neck is shimmed, then it’s a tune holder. It’s a tricky one, and dynamic vibrato as for me the best. Personally I use vibrato a lot, but without an arm, cuz on mustangs it’s enough to do vibrato only by using sugar string holder ;) pickups change is a matter of taste, I don’t switch only bridge / middle and it’s totally ok :) and yeah that great looking stuff! One of the little guitars what was designed for surf music
You said you decked the bridge. That means the neck needs a shim. Fender’s factory workers don’t know how to set up an offset. The bridge needs to be high WHILE the action is low. The resulting down pressure on the bridge drastically improves tuning stability in general and the feel/stability of the tremolo. It comes with 9’s and would feel less slinky and more normal with 11+ gauge. Leo’s design is fine if it’s properly set up which not many people know how to do, especially at fender. I do agree about the switches though. Puisheen has videos explaining hot to set up fender offsets. If you follow his instructions your opinion will drastically change about the guitar.
Preach. I have a vintage parts Mustang and it stays in tune with me using the tremolo. You have adjust the height of the tube so it sits straight up and down so that it will come back to equilibrium. Most people try to keep the bridge flat on the tremolo trying to keep the action low like you might on a Strat. What you need to do is setup it up more like a Jaguar/Jazzmaster with a higher bridge and shimmed neck so that the tension is right. It's a shame everyone wants to lock down these vibratos because they are very expressive.
Great review - I’ve got this exact same model - agree with all your comments about it - they take a whole lot of getting used to but worth every bit of effort you put in. It can be a real great guitar. No one mentions the fact that a short scale length effects both of your playing hand positions it’s not just the fretting hand - My biggest struggle playing it was how close your right hand is to the cigar tremelo - it sits very high compared to a Stratocaster style tremolo - my right hand felt cramped around it to begin with. I installed the Fender modified hard tail setup £60 the one from the Ben Gibbard Fender mustang as I don’t use the tremolo much. Genuine fender part straight swap no need to adjust the cigar tube height it comes with the correct height chrome spacers. I also made up copper bushes to stop the floating bridge moving. This has made the Mustang a stable reliable guitar it’s now a whole lot of fun to play.
My greatest pet-peeve when I had a Mustang were those switches. If you are in the middle of a song and you want to go from neck to bridge pup, per example, it's just impossible to do it quickly. I'd definitely have a 3-way installed on it.
I have a '93 MIJ (MG65) and I modified the circuit: the switch near the neck functions as a neck-center-bridge pickups switch, the other functions as a phase-out-of-phase switch. Much simpler, while keeping the original switches and sounds. As for the vibrato, I removed the springs because it was complicated to set up (wtf the rocking bridge! not for me) and because the sound of the springs bothered me (yes, they resonated a LOT on certain notes/chords). The body shape is one of the most comfortable I know, and as for the scale, I'm using 10-48, and thinking of changing to 10-52 which might sound better in this scale. As for the overall sound, mine has Lace Sensor pickups gold (too weak for my taste, but quiet, haha). I can't say it's a versatile guitar, but for certain styles/sounds it has a unique and different personality. Probably the Mustang P90 hardtail version is closer to what I need, but I like the look of the original design too much.
I have a 2019 vintera 1.0 mustang that I bought brand new back then. Tuning was never an issue, just the bar falling out all the time. I did drop a tune o matic in because mustang bridges are garbage in my opinion. That strengthened my tuning stability. As for the bar, I have it held in with a hair tie wrapped around the bar and tailpiece.
That’s insane, given the Cobain was a Lefty himself and he’s like the most popular Mustang player ever. Sorry dudes. That’s pretty lame on Fender’s part.
@@jasonswitzer1748 Fender VERY rarely makes lefty Mustangs or Jaquars. And when they do they are in rather low numbers. So they sell out in a matter of minutes and then instantly can be found on Reverb for six times the original price.
@@palidiciovermingagurainia1760 that really is terrible advice. And not at all useful. I have been playing for over 25 years and already have numerous guitars. That just isn't going to happen. Perhaps if I were a player that was just starting out, it would be something to really consider. But at this point it is absolutely out of the question.
Irritated that they skimped on the matching headstocks and did not produce a candy apple red model. Literally my dream guitar. Just ordered the blue one today.
A Mustang with a hardtail bridge is a perfect guitar to learn how to play unless you have giant hands lol I've been playing my Mustant for 6 years and it's the most comfy guitar I've ever played because of it being short scale, and since it has a hardtail bridge, there's no problem with tuning stability. Stringing it with 0.11s or 0.10-0.52 is the way to go, any lighter gauge will suck because of the short scale lenght
Your brain is too slow for a mustang. You have to think fast to operate the Mustang. I bought the Squier version of this exact guitar. I bought it from CME. Mine is superb!!! I use the tremelo, and it stays in tune. There's shielding paint and the playability is awesome!!! There are some great Squiers out there that play and sound great!!!
Amazing video. I've bought this model too and I found it out of the box with a very high action. Do you believe is normal? It's my first mustang and I don't know If it has been made with purpose or not (I'm talking about 2,1 mm on the 1st strings.
This is shocking to hear an actual honest review of this guitar I bought a Fender Player Mustang with P90s and wish it had a vibrato unit- but I know it would not stay in tune nearly as well as a ‘standard’ two-point trem. I wonder if the Jaguar vibrato unit is more stable than a Mustang’s?
Sooo this one has (almost) the same bridge as the Jaguar and the Bass VI , so a jaguar / Bass VI “Mute” would fit ? (After drilling the necessary holes of-course …) Playability might improve a lot by adjusting the break angle with a .05 degree shim ( like the jaguar and bass VI) and installing a “Stay Trem” bridge, and off-course lubricating all points of contact of the strings so that they move more freely when using the whammy ..
I tried the Mustang but the odd switches really limits the sounds and tones you can get as opposed to a more standard configuration. It’s a cool LOOKING guitar but you’re really limited in what sounds you can get. Not my cup of tea at all. Also, that’s a lot of money to pay for a guitar with a cheap plastic nut. A GraphTech nut or even a bone nut is only about 5 bucks and at this price point there’s really no excuse for Fender to give you a cheap plastic nut.
Too expensive for what it is. I would agree if it had stainless steel frets, a real bone nut (or graph tech TUSQ) and proper copper shielding. Does it come with a proper guitar case or padded-bag for that price? No. It come with a cheap awful plastic bag.
I think you are missing the whole point of this guitar......it is called the "Mustang". A mustang is a WILD horse....it is meant to be wild and free and if you want to "ride" it, you must first catch it and saddle it. Then and only then can you begin to tame it! Leo Fender was a genius. Just kidding! That thing is a dumpster fire! LMAO!!!! I have always hated that guitar....I hate the short scale, the selector switches, the crazy tremelo, the body shape, I even hate that racing stripe! I also despise Nirvana, Kurt Cobain, and grunge rock. Needless to say, I will not be buying one of these for my collection. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
CLICK TO BUY - Fender Vintera II '70s Mustang:
www.zzounds.com/a--3979398/item--FEN0149130?siid=342124
GUITAR GIVEAWAY Martin D-28:
1) SUBSCRIBE and turn on notifications
2) Enter on GLEAM: gleam.io/competitions/QySws-martin-d28-giveaway
Browse ALL GEAR:
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My dad bought me a fender duo sonic in 65. Somebody stole it from me in 71. I bought a 2018 duo sonic. It's a sweet little guitar. I haven't had to change the set up or anything. I think it may be an even better playing guitar than the 65 model.
Tuning and stability for this and the Jag are very simple... use the strings they were designed for. Flatwound 13s. If you're using lighter strings, they need to be tuned up to a similar tension. I had one that I kept 8s on tuned up to A.
When stringing them up, push the bridge all the way towards the neck end of the wobble, get tension on the strings and press the trem all the way down against the pickguard, release and tune the rest of the way. The bridge will end up right where it needs to be.
There should be a couple allen screws in the posts that use the same wrench as the saddles inserted into the holes on the top of the bridge in the center of each post. They are what the bridge pivots on. You can loosen those to lower the entire bridge to keep from decking the saddles on the bridge plate.
I have never had issues using 9s on mine, the store I bought it from did full set up, so they likely did some adjusting that way
But never needed a truss rod adjustment, or change to intonation, etc.
You're talking nonsense, it's all about proper set-up.
literally never had issues with 11s
set ur freakin guitar up bro lmao
I never had any issues with the switches on my Mustang, it’s been so intuitive for me.
I have never had any tuning issues.
I have other guitars I use and love, but I tend to play my Mustang and Epi LP Special the most.
Now my Mustang is an older one, and maybe the Vintera ones aren’t as good, but this video is so opposite of my experience with Mustangs.
Not every guitar will please every player, and that’s okay, but wow, my experience couldn’t be more different.
Been looking at this guitar for a while. Great demo!
Hi, if guitars bridge is set up properly and neck is shimmed, then it’s a tune holder. It’s a tricky one, and dynamic vibrato as for me the best. Personally I use vibrato a lot, but without an arm, cuz on mustangs it’s enough to do vibrato only by using sugar string holder ;) pickups change is a matter of taste, I don’t switch only bridge / middle and it’s totally ok :) and yeah that great looking stuff! One of the little guitars what was designed for surf music
You said you decked the bridge. That means the neck needs a shim. Fender’s factory workers don’t know how to set up an offset. The bridge needs to be high WHILE the action is low. The resulting down pressure on the bridge drastically improves tuning stability in general and the feel/stability of the tremolo. It comes with 9’s and would feel less slinky and more normal with 11+ gauge. Leo’s design is fine if it’s properly set up which not many people know how to do, especially at fender. I do agree about the switches though. Puisheen has videos explaining hot to set up fender offsets. If you follow his instructions your opinion will drastically change about the guitar.
Preach. I have a vintage parts Mustang and it stays in tune with me using the tremolo. You have adjust the height of the tube so it sits straight up and down so that it will come back to equilibrium. Most people try to keep the bridge flat on the tremolo trying to keep the action low like you might on a Strat. What you need to do is setup it up more like a Jaguar/Jazzmaster with a higher bridge and shimmed neck so that the tension is right. It's a shame everyone wants to lock down these vibratos because they are very expressive.
You’re crazy, that guitar sounds killer.
Great review - I’ve got this exact same model - agree with all your comments about it - they take a whole lot of getting used to but worth every bit of effort you put in. It can be a real great guitar.
No one mentions the fact that a short scale length effects both of your playing hand positions it’s not just the fretting hand - My biggest struggle playing it was how close your right hand is to the cigar tremelo - it sits very high compared to a Stratocaster style tremolo - my right hand felt cramped around it to begin with.
I installed the Fender modified hard tail setup £60 the one from the Ben Gibbard Fender mustang as I don’t use the tremolo much. Genuine fender part straight swap no need to adjust the cigar tube height it comes with the correct height chrome spacers. I also made up copper bushes to stop the floating bridge moving. This has made the Mustang a stable reliable guitar it’s now a whole lot of fun to play.
I have this guitar and i thought it would be my rhythm guitar but I was surprised that it's awesome for leads too.
My greatest pet-peeve when I had a Mustang were those switches. If you are in the middle of a song and you want to go from neck to bridge pup, per example, it's just impossible to do it quickly. I'd definitely have a 3-way installed on it.
I have a '93 MIJ (MG65) and I modified the circuit: the switch near the neck functions as a neck-center-bridge pickups switch, the other functions as a phase-out-of-phase switch. Much simpler, while keeping the original switches and sounds.
As for the vibrato, I removed the springs because it was complicated to set up (wtf the rocking bridge! not for me) and because the sound of the springs bothered me (yes, they resonated a LOT on certain notes/chords).
The body shape is one of the most comfortable I know, and as for the scale, I'm using 10-48, and thinking of changing to 10-52 which might sound better in this scale.
As for the overall sound, mine has Lace Sensor pickups gold (too weak for my taste, but quiet, haha). I can't say it's a versatile guitar, but for certain styles/sounds it has a unique and different personality.
Probably the Mustang P90 hardtail version is closer to what I need, but I like the look of the original design too much.
I have a 2019 vintera 1.0 mustang that I bought brand new back then. Tuning was never an issue, just the bar falling out all the time. I did drop a tune o matic in because mustang bridges are garbage in my opinion. That strengthened my tuning stability. As for the bar, I have it held in with a hair tie wrapped around the bar and tailpiece.
That's a drastic change.
As a lefty, the lack of availability of these guitars breaks my heart.
I feel your pain
That’s insane, given the Cobain was a Lefty himself and he’s like the most popular Mustang player ever. Sorry dudes. That’s pretty lame on Fender’s part.
@@jasonswitzer1748 Fender VERY rarely makes lefty Mustangs or Jaquars. And when they do they are in rather low numbers. So they sell out in a matter of minutes and then instantly can be found on Reverb for six times the original price.
As a former lefty, learn righty.
@@palidiciovermingagurainia1760 that really is terrible advice. And not at all useful. I have been playing for over 25 years and already have numerous guitars. That just isn't going to happen. Perhaps if I were a player that was just starting out, it would be something to really consider. But at this point it is absolutely out of the question.
Irritated that they skimped on the matching headstocks and did not produce a candy apple red model. Literally my dream guitar. Just ordered the blue one today.
A Mustang with a hardtail bridge is a perfect guitar to learn how to play unless you have giant hands lol I've been playing my Mustant for 6 years and it's the most comfy guitar I've ever played because of it being short scale, and since it has a hardtail bridge, there's no problem with tuning stability. Stringing it with 0.11s or 0.10-0.52 is the way to go, any lighter gauge will suck because of the short scale lenght
A student size guitar? I always thought students were generally the same size as regular people.
it implies younger person, which means not fully grown, which means smaller hands
use ur brain
Your brain is too slow for a mustang. You have to think fast to operate the Mustang. I bought the Squier version of this exact guitar. I bought it from CME. Mine is superb!!! I use the tremelo, and it stays in tune. There's shielding paint and the playability is awesome!!! There are some great Squiers out there that play and sound great!!!
Amazing video. I've bought this model too and I found it out of the box with a very high action. Do you believe is normal? It's my first mustang and I don't know If it has been made with purpose or not (I'm talking about 2,1 mm on the 1st strings.
The Squier Competition Mustang has black shielding paint under the hood.
I had a ‘69 just like that.
Thanks for the review. Great coverage of the + and -. Intriguing instrument tho..
This is shocking to hear an actual honest review of this guitar
I bought a Fender Player Mustang with P90s and wish it had a vibrato unit- but I know it would not stay in tune nearly as well as a ‘standard’ two-point trem.
I wonder if the Jaguar vibrato unit is more stable than a Mustang’s?
Sooo this one has (almost) the same bridge as the Jaguar and the Bass VI , so a jaguar / Bass VI “Mute” would fit ? (After drilling the necessary holes of-course …)
Playability might improve a lot by adjusting the break angle with a .05 degree shim ( like the jaguar and bass VI) and installing a “Stay Trem” bridge, and off-course lubricating all points of contact of the strings so that they move more freely when using the whammy ..
You dont need a comfort cut on a mustang they're the most comfortable guitars to play
I tried the Mustang but the odd switches really limits the sounds and tones you can get as opposed to a more standard configuration. It’s a cool LOOKING guitar but you’re really limited in what sounds you can get. Not my cup of tea at all. Also, that’s a lot of money to pay for a guitar with a cheap plastic nut. A GraphTech nut or even a bone nut is only about 5 bucks and at this price point there’s really no excuse for Fender to give you a cheap plastic nut.
can you do an episode of the squier VI ?
It's on my list, yes! Thanks for watching
Too expensive for what it is. I would agree if it had stainless steel frets, a real bone nut (or graph tech TUSQ) and proper copper shielding.
Does it come with a proper guitar case or padded-bag for that price? No. It come with a cheap awful plastic bag.
It's not "shortscale." It's more accurately 3/4 scale.
"oh look at me i know it all"
A lot of people say "short scale", and we know what they are talking about.
@jordanpratt3821 then you know it's wrong. A ric 320 or 325 are shortscale. Play one of those and then tell me the mustang is "shortscale."
Well 3/4 is shorter than the standard Fender scale, or the typical Gibson one
wow. only 100 grams lighter then my strat. dissapointed i am.
Another modern shitty fender for over a grand 🤡
I think you are missing the whole point of this guitar......it is called the "Mustang". A mustang is a WILD horse....it is meant to be wild and free and if you want to "ride" it, you must first catch it and saddle it. Then and only then can you begin to tame it! Leo Fender was a genius. Just kidding! That thing is a dumpster fire! LMAO!!!! I have always hated that guitar....I hate the short scale, the selector switches, the crazy tremelo, the body shape, I even hate that racing stripe! I also despise Nirvana, Kurt Cobain, and grunge rock. Needless to say, I will not be buying one of these for my collection. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣