Army Infantryman here, What i love here the most, The sheer amount of magazines. Too many times iv watched other peoples setups that have all the bells and whistles, but the weight they choose to lose is in the mags. Theyll have 3-6 mags and thats it. Theres no way you trust your aim that much or that your fighting would be so limited. In Afghanistan i was running 10 magazines like you are with another 300 rounds still packaged in my backpack for repack ammo.
My dad went ashore at Sicily. He traded food for ammo, said “you can always find something to eat, ammo is tougher” I carried 4 magazines on my belt as a deputy sheriff, and 4 more on my shotgun bandolier. North Hollywood shootout proved me right.
Great video dude. There are so many infantrymen running around with kit that just doesn't make sense. Always essential to teach junior Marines smart kit so they don't immediately hit the PX for Condor pouches.
@@darklyripley6138 indeed. Brands are irrelevant, doesn’t matter. What matters is how you setup your gear in an intelligent way without over burdening yourself
Great setup. The only note I have is to keep the white tab on the tourniquets open, when you're in a rush to apply a tourniquet you don't want to be fiddling with something so small.
@Master Marc Subliminals This is a plate carrier. The main purpose is to carry your ballistic armor plates. However you can also attach essential fighting gear. Magazines as you said, but also communication devices, medical supplies, tools you might need, and many allow you to attach backpacks to them to hold sustainment gear.
I run a pop flare pouch on my ruck sack. It holds my folding saw. The double mag pouch on my ruck has pruning shears, and 7 inch tent stakes for a shelter. My e-tool pouch has my e-tool of course, and a set of deer leather gloves for hand protection. I love repurposing surplus pouches. It's just less expensive. LOL
Good series. One suggestion from an old Marine. As you said, water is your primary need. A Camelback or canteens with out the capability to refill is not a good idea as in many places, good water does not grow or come from every tree. If you carry the small Sawyer that screws on a good size raw water collection pouch, you have a ready to refill system that will fit almost flat in one of those rear Camelback pouches and weigh practically nothing. If each individual does not have this capability, every fireteam should have at least two such systems. The only exception is in severe cold where you would put a used Sawyer tube in a zip lock and wear it against your body.The pieces are a system and should be kept together. Semper Fi
0331 here I whole heartily agree with the radio being outside I can’t count how many time I was on an sbf and I had to fix my damn radio😂 love the content keep it up!
Waistband for the carrier, I still had 6 to 7inches left of the band to still adjusted and I wear size 14 to 16 pants size. The product super easy to use and comfortable.
Excellent series of videos man. Good explanations and demo's, like seeing the why and DIY behind the kit selection and organization. Subscribed, keep it up! Would love to see a video on your ruck and assault pack if possible. Thank you!
On the aspect of keeping electrical tape, I take an old ID or something if that size/stiffness, and I wrap it in duct tape, and pick a random slot of molle and fill it with zipties, as far as admin, first spear makes a really good small one, GRG style
Your channel is great man! Awesome content. You & a Ranger Batt guy have been my go-to channels to share with my guys. I love these smaller, more realitisic military channels popping up in my feed - takes the glamor out of the operator. Lots of dumb and impractical setups on plate carriers these days and I'm always trying to preach the methods you mention in your videos. Good shit!
Excellent video! Thank you for sharing! I really like that RAM insert. Unfortunately it doesn't work with my setup (I got placard from Spiritus, which is hook and hook), so I'll have to shop around to find something similar. Will have to watch your belt video too.
In my limited experience and in my current physical shape I could not operate in that kit. It is very important to run your gear for hours if you can. To use a rig like that you have to be a beast and be fit and strong. Find a rig that works for you I personally like light weight. But that has lots of down falls also.
Yeah definitely a valid point. Unfortunately the weight of kit is pretty much irrelevant to infantry, no matter the weight we have to carry it. And I normally only keep 6 mags on the player carrier and one on my belt. I just added the extra ones to show why I have those additional pouches on there!
red light at night isn't to conceal the beam or reduce its visibility, it is because the red doesn't neutralize the rhodopsin in the rods of your retina so it doesn't disrupt your night vision
It's a little bit less visible, but you can still see a dingleberry private using it to take out his sleep system from 600+ meters. It drives me fucking nuts as a national guardsman seeing everybody pop their headlamps out whenever it's time to start priorities of work.
Everyone is chiming in on the water solution, I concur I‘ve had problems with all options I’ve tried. With bladders on my back I’ve found they get crushed and sometimes pop when donning my pack, also interfere with my caatail antenna. In place of your simp pouch, I saw someone run a Roll 1 pouch without the insert but a longer/smaller diameter Nalgene. I’ll try it out but maybe it’s something worth the experiment
Love your videos man. Quick question for ya. How are you running your plate carrier and pistol belt with a main back? I’ve always had issues with carrying so much shit that I need to buckle the hip belt and then I need to stow the pistol belt in my pack until we drop packs and begin patrolling.
I know you went with the Shaw cummerbund, but when you had the LBT SRT cummerbund do you know what the two inner elastic bands are for? LBT's website says "Elastic retention on cummerbund for chem lights and breaching tools" and it makes no sense to me. The elastic is too loose to actually assist the cummerbund in function, so if I can't see the need I am going to cut mine off. Its just that it was obviously time and labor intensive to stitch channels and slot those things that I keep thinking they have to be important but I don't see how you can hang chem lights and breaching tools off of internal elastic. Thought I'd ask. Thanks!
Okay... I have to ask, since it's something I'm considering for my PC: would you use ITW Fast Mag pouches. The setup I have in mind for my roll is four ITW Fast Mag pouches (one piggy backing)?
I have no experience with them unfortunately. Something similar I can recommend though is esstac kywis, I have 3 tall pouches on my plate carrier at one point
How did you attach the SC Arc Placard to your SRT? Does the SRT Kangaroo pouch detach? Or did you use the SC MAP system directly over your kangaroo pouch? What swift clip system did you attach to the SRT? AXL?
@@TheGruntPerspective Thanks! I have used Tyr PCs for last 10yrs. Their front pouch system is completely removable and has a bomber strong attachment system. The new 6094 I received the front pouch will not lay flat so that all the velcro makes contact with itself and I am VERY surprised that the kangaroo pouch only locks down with velcro (and mine does not make full contact). I bought the BFG Tenspeed to attach to the front because you convinced me (even tho a buddy of mine designed them, hah) and it is a brilliant upgrade to scalability and a random stuff pocket especially while doing TCCC! I like most of the 6094, but unless I get the kangaroo pouch to laydown and not pull off the velcro (like climbing over a wall or fence slipping and hanging your pouch on the obstacle and having the kangaroo pouch rip off the velcro and hinge up) I will likely send it back to LBT and get my 10th Tyr Pico but with the swift clips. I am grateful for your time/info and your vids are very informative! God Bless and Stay Safe!
@@TheGruntPerspective I had heard good things about ESSTAC Kywi and lost mags to the point I think they are just range toys, so I'm cautious now. Thanks!
Decision to wear or not wear plates isn’t a topic of discussion. It’s based on what the commanders intent is and your mission set. If you’re on surveillance then of course a chest rig, if you’re on a security patrol then 100% wear plates. It’s not fucking rocket science.
What I’m saying is the infantry often wears plates when we don’t need to. Because it’s like the default kit, when in reality the default should be lbe with the capability to wear plates under.
Retired Army 1992. OMG how things have changed since I first got in the military vietnam era to retirement. You guys have so much more gear and equipment that I would have killed to have. You can never have enough ammo and water. Great vid mate. And I too would love to see a video on your assult pack and ruck organization. Thanks
its good to see how other people in the military set up their kits maybe give me some ideas and "oh damn that's good" moments. The red light comment is pretty funny I only heard someone say red light doesn't travel as far once in my career and that caught me off guard, next time just point at a radio tower at night and have them try to guess how far it is and that guy changed his opinion real quick. well constructed video, not sure if you wrote a script or not but its very coherent, maybe in the description drop a list of all the gear used in the video cause I had to skip around a little to find what I was looking for, Thanks brother
Gentlemen & even ladies: Marine here. Has anyone noticed that the majority of the putatively high-speed, low-drag “cool” TH-cam and internet traffic is all about special this and special that? Now, don’t get me wrong, it’s great that all branches have some kind of special ops, critical skills operators. Some exist for direct action missions. Some exist for mostly reconnaissance missions. Some exist for SAR and extraction missions and the list goes on. But, as a just vanilla , plain Marine (tongue-in-cheek), is it now the case that there is nothing cool, interesting or worth talking about when it comes to meat-eating, Tyrannosaurus infantrymen? As if it only takes guts to do what the Tier I operators do. I think it takes just as much, if not more in some cases, when you know that massive contact is on its way and perhaps the G2 isn’t all that clear about what you’re walking into. Just drawing from the history taught us in our training, take Belleau Wood (I know Army, you were there too); take Guadalcanal, Iwo Jima, Pellilu. Either these Marines were facing well-trained Huns using poison gas, machine gun palooza and hand to hand combat in the Wood, or you were facing hundreds of fanatical Japanese and their nighttime Banzai attacks and sappers infiltrating the lines, or maybe dug-in, defense in depth fanatics who literally have to be burned out like so many ill-mannnered, blood-sucking ticks, or maybe three divisions of NVA with constant bombardment and night attacks for a few hundred Marines at Khe Sanh, or even hundreds of thousands of maniacal Red Chinese at Chosin Reservoir. It seems to me that the knowledge that you had to have your head on a swivel 24/7 with no sleep, maybe no water, plenty of dead buddies, would be enough to compare favorably with our fine folks in the critical skills department at SOCOM. Yet, If you watch enough TH-cam, you notice that all of the “cool” stuff only covers the Tier I ops where contact sometimes is a mission FAILURE. I don’t think that the “special” forces, or any of these other brothers are any more special than the rest of us lying face down in the mud either. It’s all the same mission: kill people and break things, yet, it’s only cool if you can roll non-regulation personal grooming standards and uniforms. Cmon. Let’s just all be happy that we have the best peeps for any mission requirement. Fair enough?
I have absolutely massive pride in being a conventional infantryman, long live the infantry. No amount of special equipment or advanced technology will replace what we do…someone is always going to have to be the overwhelming, highly trained force on the ground, putting a bayonet in someone’s fucking face
LBT is good gear but WAYYY overpriced. Better off with CRYE JPC2.0 if you're looking for budget friendly. There are a bunch of other good options out there these days. Let me ask you this though - how do you go prone with 6 mags upfront?
@@TheGruntPerspective saw a video from @The Longhouse Preparedness where he had a ferro zip on back panel and hydration carrier stacked that he could swap between molle adapters on his plate carrier and ruck. Similar in concept to the Marine Corps issuing 2 sustainment pouches but allows for more GP space.
Great video, just sub'd. I have my PC set up similar to yours. I just made a video about mine, then saw your video. I am retired Army and LEO, want to try to help out other military YT channels. I always incorporate pistol mags on my PC, probably because of my LEO background, I will always carry a pistol with me no matter what. Great job brother
For the water situation, US forest service water bottles are slimmer and lighter than Nalgene bottles. I know they're hard to find now but well worth the effort in finding them, they also hold the same amount as a Nalgene.
Shaw Concepts has some well-thought-out products. I previously used an issued Gen2 carrier with the Shaw Concepts Arc Placard (using the 4 mag insert) with a Blue Force Gear Triple Ten-Speed mag pouch over it, the Shaw Concepts Arc Cummerbunds, a slim 5.11 admin pouch, along with a few other items. I use one issued double mag pouch on my left cummerbund towards the front as a radio pouch. I've since moved the whole setup to the Shaw Concepts ARC carrier and replaced the admin pouch with the Shaw Concepts admin pouch. It's worked great so far on deployment.
I like the idea of having a backpack in conjunction to a plate carrier. Some backpacks don't fit you right if you have a carrier on. I found that the Camelbak HAWG and Linchpin packs fit me perfectly while wearing my carrier. I am also not a fan of the zip on backpack panels because that is super uncomfortable while sitting in a vehicle and you can't access anything yourself without taking off your carrier. I like the idea of taking a backpack off while keeping your plates on. Both my Camelbaks have quick disconnects on the shoulder straps so it's easy to take off in a hurry. Using a backpack allows me to have more than enough room for my gear and I have the option to carry extra stuff if needed.
The upper front of my plate carrier has one of those double 40mm grenade pouches. I keep a Multitool in one side and either a tourniquet or flashlight in the other. It doesn't impede my access to my mags at all.
Protection only from the front and back and only against gunfire. Ignore your exposed sides and Zero Protection against shrapnel. 0/10 ngmi and that's good
I know this has little to do with the video but you said the garmin device is able to be tracked: how so? A garmin foretrex is only able to receive and not transmit so how could it possibly be tracked? Just a honest question.
Hey there high speed. Let me preface this with we all get hung up on the minutia, so you may have found this to be entirely irrelevant to you, but I always like to hear other peoples opinions, anyway. Seems like those magazines are oriented towards a strong arm instead of towards week arm, making for action movement to turn them around and put them in the rifle. maybe I’m looking at the video wrong like it’s flipped or something, or you found it to be an irrelevant issue. I find myself yelling at my rookies all the time to fix their mags, but I’d like to hear your opinion on the matter. Stay safe out there devil dog.
I'm a marine vet myself. Was in from 2009-2013 was with 3rd recon and 2nd marsoc/msog and my whole enlistment I used the crye jpc/jpc 2.0 and still use it to this day and love it I also use my issued eagle industries Camelback backpack on the back of my rig as well
To replace the camelback bladder, look up the iceplate curve. It’s a plastic container shaped like an armor plate but it’s like a camelback bladder with a hose and everything. Don’t have to worry about it popping when you’re rucking. Semper fi motivator
@@TheGruntPerspective Ah, was wondering why the right side wasn't clear. All those mags on the right would interfere with the draw, but if you don't have one no worries right? LOL
@@TheGruntPerspective lol I got a short torso. I can't work it like that unless i use a drop leg Hollywood style all the way by the knee. I just keep it clear.
Plates definitely have value BUT I can say from personal experience plates offer only LIMITED protection. Most of your body is still exposed so be that you and your battle buddies carry appropriate IFAKs and tourniquets and kNOW how to use them.
Rear dangler tub medical kit will hold large water bottles perfectly! Could even use a hand warmer and add shock cord around it to cinch it down.. for same concept.. Anyone who been foot mobile vs vehicle.. there’s three things you can’t have enough.. water, ammo and grenades. I got water on the plate, belt and ruck. Now with belt Nalgene I have to remove the bottles and place them in the ruck when carrying together cause the interfere with a ruck. Small assault back though isn’t an issue.. I’m about to remove the belt and try the rear dangler for a 1.5ish size water battle.. I think I could get a full 38 Nalgene in a hand warmer with some shock cord though.. and that should still work with a full ruck As for the pouch on the bladder.. I use it for a water cleaning kit only.. then as you say I’ll throw in a small sustainment/emergency kit if going wo a pack.. but I almost never have that issue cause I always have some form of smaller pack in my ruck or on my ruck shorter ops unless vehicle based. I’ll usually throw a couple basic water bottles in with the 3l bladder to have a quick top up for it just in case.. I also have a collapsed water bag in there as well for quick sourcing water with couple tabs cause you don’t want to put tabs in a bladder with unfiltered water that is a disaster.. takes up no extra room even in a small pack like this.. one bottle sits each side of the bladder and the rest under in the bottom of the pack i also ass shock cord inside all my hydration packs to put more pressure on them cause we all know how shitty they can get if you are prone and under 50% capacity in the bladder.. those compression bands and outside straps only do soo much..
@@TheGruntPerspective Thank You for the reply. That seems a lot- how about the strain on the back/ spine and shoulders? How You deal with those issues? I typically carry plate carrier without mag pouches, except for admin pouch, compass pouch, IFAK, camelback pouch- the whole loadout is on the hip belt. But then again i am not in the infantry. Just some FO who serves in the weekend warriors, and not in the active duty.
@@karamelles98 The weight of it to infantry guys is somewhat irrelevant. No matter how much it weighs we still need to carry it. But it doesn’t bother my back or shoulders. I can wear it for long periods of time and it’s quite comfortable with no additional padding other then what is already built into the vest!
The thing about red lamps is that the light doesn’t reflect off of things like white light does. If you’re using a red light to look at a map on the ground, for example, it won’t illuminate your position. Red light also protects your eyes from loosing focus and what not after they’ve adjusted to the darkness.
@@TheGruntPerspective would you rather see contour lines or have enemies in a MG nest (that you can’t see but it’s 10 yards away) vaporize your patrol because you pointed a white LED at a laminated map?
Sorry to say that but that red light thing is Bs, its less visible under visible light but you'll definetly see someone turn that on if they're 10 yards away I'm not a vet but i played airsoft against guys with Nvg, and they can see even a the moon reflecting on my med patch on my medical pouch, so a red light is indeed necessary as a blue/green one, and a white one, but most of the time as Gruntperspective said you try not to use it without a tarp or a poncho, unless you want to be spotted
I gotta say man, I always hated having double stacked mags on the front. It makes getting in the prone and sighting in uncomfortable as fuck. Gun belts are way.
GPS devices are passive only. They are only receivers, they don't transmit a signal. There is no way to track a Garmin gps, unless the user of that Garmin has connected the device to a network-enabled device like a phone, and THAT device has been exploited.
@@TheGruntPerspective Thanks! Great vidz! Does the SRT have a small shallow pocket at the top interior of the front plate pocket like the 6094 Modular Plate Carrier does? What would you use that pocket for? I can't access it with my carrier on and have always wondered what its purpose is?
@@TheGruntPerspective Asked LBT about that sternum notch pocket and they laughed and said it was to protect your chest from the armored collar attachments.
Thanks but no) War in Ukraine shows that setups like these can only ruin your back and knees.. warbelt is the solution, warbelt with clear plate carrier (maximum 3 fastmags and radio) ps try with normal warbelt and you will never hang a lot of weight again)
Army Infantryman here, What i love here the most, The sheer amount of magazines. Too many times iv watched other peoples setups that have all the bells and whistles, but the weight they choose to lose is in the mags. Theyll have 3-6 mags and thats it. Theres no way you trust your aim that much or that your fighting would be so limited. In Afghanistan i was running 10 magazines like you are with another 300 rounds still packaged in my backpack for repack ammo.
Yeah man, my like standard load out would be 7, but I have the ability to carry 11 + 1 in the gun.
Big time, 6 mags is not enough too.
My dad went ashore at Sicily. He traded food for ammo, said “you can always find something to eat, ammo is tougher” I carried 4 magazines on my belt as a deputy sheriff, and 4 more on my shotgun bandolier. North Hollywood shootout proved me right.
@@ericmartin5720 can never have too much ammo and water.
Lmao i ran 7 mags total during combat operations in OEF but 10 was too much weight when you are sprinting up a mountain in full kit.
Great video dude. There are so many infantrymen running around with kit that just doesn't make sense. Always essential to teach junior Marines smart kit so they don't immediately hit the PX for Condor pouches.
Thanks man!
Nothing wrong with Condor. They hold up, and do their job decent enough.
@@darklyripley6138 indeed. Brands are irrelevant, doesn’t matter. What matters is how you setup your gear in an intelligent way without over burdening yourself
When I was in the army they had a whole condor store at the PX and most guys would get their needed gear there
@@Chicano_pistolero
And it's all made in China.
Great setup. The only note I have is to keep the white tab on the tourniquets open, when you're in a rush to apply a tourniquet you don't want to be fiddling with something so small.
@Master Marc Subliminals This is a plate carrier. The main purpose is to carry your ballistic armor plates. However you can also attach essential fighting gear. Magazines as you said, but also communication devices, medical supplies, tools you might need, and many allow you to attach backpacks to them to hold sustainment gear.
I run a pop flare pouch on my ruck sack. It holds my folding saw. The double mag pouch on my ruck has pruning shears, and 7 inch tent stakes for a shelter. My e-tool pouch has my e-tool of course, and a set of deer leather gloves for hand protection. I love repurposing surplus pouches. It's just less expensive. LOL
Thanks for watching!
Good series. One suggestion from an old Marine. As you said, water is your primary need. A Camelback or canteens with out the capability to refill is not a good idea as in many places, good water does not grow or come from every tree. If you carry the small Sawyer that screws on a good size raw water collection pouch, you have a ready to refill system that will fit almost flat in one of those rear Camelback pouches and weigh practically nothing. If each individual does not have this capability, every fireteam should have at least two such systems. The only exception is in severe cold where you would put a used Sawyer tube in a zip lock and wear it against your body.The pieces are a system and should be kept together. Semper Fi
0331 here I whole heartily agree with the radio being outside I can’t count how many time I was on an sbf and I had to fix my damn radio😂 love the content keep it up!
I hope your channel grows substantially.
Thank you! I have lots planned, share with your friends!
This how it should be. Infantryman learning from each not banter back and forth because we wear a different uniform
I appreciate in depth, thought provoking kit setups. Sub
Waistband for the carrier, I still had 6 to 7inches left of the band to still adjusted and I wear size 14 to 16 pants size. The product super easy to use and comfortable.
Excellent series of videos man. Good explanations and demo's, like seeing the why and DIY behind the kit selection and organization. Subscribed, keep it up! Would love to see a video on your ruck and assault pack if possible. Thank you!
It’s definitely planned! Thank you!
On the aspect of keeping electrical tape, I take an old ID or something if that size/stiffness, and I wrap it in duct tape, and pick a random slot of molle and fill it with zipties, as far as admin, first spear makes a really good small one, GRG style
Keep up the content dude, super helpful stuff for fellow infantry guys
That’s the whole goal, check out some of my other videos!
First. Thank you for your service. Great video.
Your channel is great man! Awesome content. You & a Ranger Batt guy have been my go-to channels to share with my guys.
I love these smaller, more realitisic military channels popping up in my feed - takes the glamor out of the operator. Lots of dumb and impractical setups on plate carriers these days and I'm always trying to preach the methods you mention in your videos. Good shit!
Thanks for watching man! I’m glad I can help out fellow Infantrymen!
Excellent video! Thank you for sharing! I really like that RAM insert. Unfortunately it doesn't work with my setup (I got placard from Spiritus, which is hook and hook), so I'll have to shop around to find something similar. Will have to watch your belt video too.
Good stuff. I started this thinking I was about to make fun of you but you redeemed yourself
Check out some of my other videos!
You got that camelbak in OKI from Ordinance Tactical :)
I knew it looked familiar! Lol I have the same camelbak pouch which I bought in oki and I also have a plate carrier from them too.
In my limited experience and in my current physical shape I could not operate in that kit. It is very important to run your gear for hours if you can. To use a rig like that you have to be a beast and be fit and strong. Find a rig that works for you I personally like light weight. But that has lots of down falls also.
Yeah definitely a valid point. Unfortunately the weight of kit is pretty much irrelevant to infantry, no matter the weight we have to carry it. And I normally only keep 6 mags on the player carrier and one on my belt. I just added the extra ones to show why I have those additional pouches on there!
@TheGruntPerspective for people who train in kit like that alot its doable but for the average man a few hours in that carrier would be pushing it
@@TheGruntPerspective It should encourage the prone position when stopping.
@@1truthbegettingtold275 Gettin that good 360 security rah!
Sounds like you need more PT
When I was in the Marine corps late 80s we Disney have any of this stuff just a flak jacket I didn’t even have a turnaquit.
0311 like a mug. Semper Fi!
Cool stuff!
Keep those vids comin'!
red light at night isn't to conceal the beam or reduce its visibility, it is because the red doesn't neutralize the rhodopsin in the rods of your retina so it doesn't disrupt your night vision
I know, what I’m saying is people think that red light is less visible at night and that’s obviously not true
It's a little bit less visible, but you can still see a dingleberry private using it to take out his sleep system from 600+ meters. It drives me fucking nuts as a national guardsman seeing everybody pop their headlamps out whenever it's time to start priorities of work.
Very helpful video 💪Thank you
Have you heard/tried esstac? They have quad and triple mag placards. Medium and tall. They run great. They have the retention on the inside as well.
I’ve used esstac, very good stuff
Links for products listed in the video description would be helpful for people whose google-fu might suck 👍🏼
Everyone is chiming in on the water solution, I concur I‘ve had problems with all options I’ve tried. With bladders on my back I’ve found they get crushed and sometimes pop when donning my pack, also interfere with my caatail antenna. In place of your simp pouch, I saw someone run a Roll 1 pouch without the insert but a longer/smaller diameter Nalgene. I’ll try it out but maybe it’s something worth the experiment
Prepared airman does something similar
Love your videos man. Quick question for ya. How are you running your plate carrier and pistol belt with a main back? I’ve always had issues with carrying so much shit that I need to buckle the hip belt and then I need to stow the pistol belt in my pack until we drop packs and begin patrolling.
Basically I just take my belt off a secure it to my main pack
Good job 👍
I know you went with the Shaw cummerbund, but when you had the LBT SRT cummerbund do you know what the two inner elastic bands are for? LBT's website says "Elastic retention on cummerbund for chem lights and breaching tools" and it makes no sense to me. The elastic is too loose to actually assist the cummerbund in function, so if I can't see the need I am going to cut mine off. Its just that it was obviously time and labor intensive to stitch channels and slot those things that I keep thinking they have to be important but I don't see how you can hang chem lights and breaching tools off of internal elastic. Thought I'd ask. Thanks!
I don’t know either man sorry, thanks for watching though
Okay... I have to ask, since it's something I'm considering for my PC: would you use ITW Fast Mag pouches. The setup I have in mind for my roll is four ITW Fast Mag pouches (one piggy backing)?
I have no experience with them unfortunately. Something similar I can recommend though is esstac kywis, I have 3 tall pouches on my plate carrier at one point
How did you attach the SC Arc Placard to your SRT? Does the SRT Kangaroo pouch detach? Or did you use the SC MAP system directly over your kangaroo pouch? What swift clip system did you attach to the SRT? AXL?
I used the MAP and the axl system!
@@TheGruntPerspective Thanks! I have used Tyr PCs for last 10yrs. Their front pouch system is completely removable and has a bomber strong attachment system. The new 6094 I received the front pouch will not lay flat so that all the velcro makes contact with itself and I am VERY surprised that the kangaroo pouch only locks down with velcro (and mine does not make full contact). I bought the BFG Tenspeed to attach to the front because you convinced me (even tho a buddy of mine designed them, hah) and it is a brilliant upgrade to scalability and a random stuff pocket especially while doing TCCC! I like most of the 6094, but unless I get the kangaroo pouch to laydown and not pull off the velcro (like climbing over a wall or fence slipping and hanging your pouch on the obstacle and having the kangaroo pouch rip off the velcro and hinge up) I will likely send it back to LBT and get my 10th Tyr Pico but with the swift clips. I am grateful for your time/info and your vids are very informative! God Bless and Stay Safe!
Red light is used at night because it doesn't kill the user's natural night vision.
I know I’m just saying people think it’s because it can’t be seen
If you get a chance, pick up a SKD PIG Plate Carrier. Wore that on a deployment in 2011, that thing was awesome.
If you go prone hard or lawn-dart onto your head will the RAM insert hold your mags?
I haven’t lost one yet and I have done lots of buddy rushing
@@TheGruntPerspective I had heard good things about ESSTAC Kywi and lost mags to the point I think they are just range toys, so I'm cautious now. Thanks!
@@TheGruntPerspective I got the RAM insert and it is the answer I have been looking for! Appreciate the tip!
Perhaps a Qore performance hydration ice plate will solve your problem
I just don’t think it’s enough water
We're talking 3 L at minimum on plate, and at least 8L coming with us on the op
I’d rather have the 6mags and rest in my pack. All that ammo all over makes you bulky and being streamlined is better in my opinion.
An assault pack is also bulky. Different preferences, neither is wrong
It's very similar to a lbt 6094...
Yeah it’s almost the exact same
What is the name of this plate carrier?
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NTC plate carrier
Decision to wear or not wear plates isn’t a topic of discussion. It’s based on what the commanders intent is and your mission set. If you’re on surveillance then of course a chest rig, if you’re on a security patrol then 100% wear plates. It’s not fucking rocket science.
What I’m saying is the infantry often wears plates when we don’t need to. Because it’s like the default kit, when in reality the default should be lbe with the capability to wear plates under.
this setup will kill your back
Have a stronger back
This is more like it....
Drop shit onto your beltline for endurance. I personally would run 4 mags on my plates and the rest on my eagle belt.
If plates are unbearable to you. Work out more and do kit runs.
I guarantee you I work out and run in my kit more then you do. But thanks for the advice
Retired Army 1992. OMG how things have changed since I first got in the military vietnam era to retirement. You guys have so much more gear and equipment that I would have killed to have. You can never have enough ammo and water. Great vid mate. And I too would love to see a video on your assult pack and ruck organization. Thanks
Thank you! And thank you for your service
You sound like my uncle, when I was issued a 416 and Mk27 he was like What are those number I've been out a while I see! lol
@@TheColtLockwoodRealm LMAO... you were issued a WHAT??? I have no clue what a 416 or MK27 is. Now I'll have to look them up online. Grins
@@CptnSavage 😂😂🤣🤣😁 I needed that laugh. Happy Memorial Day
@@CptnSavage hahahahaha Thanks Unc!! Thank you for your service to our nation. All the way!
its good to see how other people in the military set up their kits maybe give me some ideas and "oh damn that's good" moments. The red light comment is pretty funny I only heard someone say red light doesn't travel as far once in my career and that caught me off guard, next time just point at a radio tower at night and have them try to guess how far it is and that guy changed his opinion real quick. well constructed video, not sure if you wrote a script or not but its very coherent, maybe in the description drop a list of all the gear used in the video cause I had to skip around a little to find what I was looking for, Thanks brother
Thanks for watching!
Gentlemen & even ladies: Marine here. Has anyone noticed that the majority of the putatively high-speed, low-drag “cool” TH-cam and internet traffic is all about special this and special that? Now, don’t get me wrong, it’s great that all branches have some kind of special ops, critical skills operators. Some exist for direct action missions. Some exist for mostly reconnaissance missions. Some exist for SAR and extraction missions and the list goes on. But, as a just vanilla , plain Marine (tongue-in-cheek), is it now the case that there is nothing cool, interesting or worth talking about when it comes to meat-eating, Tyrannosaurus infantrymen? As if it only takes guts to do what the Tier I operators do. I think it takes just as much, if not more in some cases, when you know that massive contact is on its way and perhaps the G2 isn’t all that clear about what you’re walking into. Just drawing from the history taught us in our training, take Belleau Wood (I know Army, you were there too); take Guadalcanal, Iwo Jima, Pellilu. Either these Marines were facing well-trained Huns using poison gas, machine gun palooza and hand to hand combat in the Wood, or you were facing hundreds of fanatical Japanese and their nighttime Banzai attacks and sappers infiltrating the lines, or maybe dug-in, defense in depth fanatics who literally have to be burned out like so many ill-mannnered, blood-sucking ticks, or maybe three divisions of NVA with constant bombardment and night attacks for a few hundred Marines at Khe Sanh, or even hundreds of thousands of maniacal Red Chinese at Chosin Reservoir. It seems to me that the knowledge that you had to have your head on a swivel 24/7 with no sleep, maybe no water, plenty of dead buddies, would be enough to compare favorably with our fine folks in the critical skills department at SOCOM. Yet, If you watch enough TH-cam, you notice that all of the “cool” stuff only covers the Tier I ops where contact sometimes is a mission FAILURE. I don’t think that the “special” forces, or any of these other brothers are any more special than the rest of us lying face down in the mud either. It’s all the same mission: kill people and break things, yet, it’s only cool if you can roll non-regulation personal grooming standards and uniforms. Cmon. Let’s just all be happy that we have the best peeps for any mission requirement. Fair enough?
I have absolutely massive pride in being a conventional infantryman, long live the infantry. No amount of special equipment or advanced technology will replace what we do…someone is always going to have to be the overwhelming, highly trained force on the ground, putting a bayonet in someone’s fucking face
@@TheGruntPerspective and warheads on foreheads!!
LBT is good gear but WAYYY overpriced. Better off with CRYE JPC2.0 if you're looking for budget friendly. There are a bunch of other good options out there these days. Let me ask you this though - how do you go prone with 6 mags upfront?
Point Post Sprawl
Excellent video. Our mag load out was 12. I carried one extra in my buttpack for the final moment. Ha
USMC 0311 Iraq Jan 2003.
Thank you for your service, semper fi brother
@@TheGruntPerspective Semper Fi to you and keep up the great work brother
I carried 12 in the Stan when we'd vic patrol 40+ miles outside the wire or 20k on foot. Semper Fi warrior
@@SlimeSquare good ol days.
For the camelback alternative the Qore Performance ice plates. You can also stack them in a pack for more
It’s not enough water for me
To be comfortable with, also having double plates on my back wouldn’t interface with a ruck well.
@@TheGruntPerspective saw a video from @The Longhouse Preparedness where he had a ferro zip on back panel and hydration carrier stacked that he could swap between molle adapters on his plate carrier and ruck. Similar in concept to the Marine Corps issuing 2 sustainment pouches but allows for more GP space.
Great video, just sub'd. I have my PC set up similar to yours. I just made a video about mine, then saw your video. I am retired Army and LEO, want to try to help out other military YT channels. I always incorporate pistol mags on my PC, probably because of my LEO background, I will always carry a pistol with me no matter what. Great job brother
thanks for making these man. there's very little discussion of usmc plate carriers for a reservist non infantryman to reference.
Thanks for watching!
For the water situation, US forest service water bottles are slimmer and lighter than Nalgene bottles. I know they're hard to find now but well worth the effort in finding them, they also hold the same amount as a Nalgene.
Thanks!
Shaw Concepts has some well-thought-out products. I previously used an issued Gen2 carrier with the Shaw Concepts Arc Placard (using the 4 mag insert) with a Blue Force Gear Triple Ten-Speed mag pouch over it, the Shaw Concepts Arc Cummerbunds, a slim 5.11 admin pouch, along with a few other items. I use one issued double mag pouch on my left cummerbund towards the front as a radio pouch. I've since moved the whole setup to the Shaw Concepts ARC carrier and replaced the admin pouch with the Shaw Concepts admin pouch. It's worked great so far on deployment.
Outstanding
Check out some of my other videos! Love your channel by the way!
Cool setup, not usually a guntube watcher but this got me interested. Thanks.
I like the idea of having a backpack in conjunction to a plate carrier. Some backpacks don't fit you right if you have a carrier on. I found that the Camelbak HAWG and Linchpin packs fit me perfectly while wearing my carrier. I am also not a fan of the zip on backpack panels because that is super uncomfortable while sitting in a vehicle and you can't access anything yourself without taking off your carrier. I like the idea of taking a backpack off while keeping your plates on. Both my Camelbaks have quick disconnects on the shoulder straps so it's easy to take off in a hurry. Using a backpack allows me to have more than enough room for my gear and I have the option to carry extra stuff if needed.
Thanks for watching!
The upper front of my plate carrier has one of those double 40mm grenade pouches. I keep a Multitool in one side and either a tourniquet or flashlight in the other. It doesn't impede my access to my mags at all.
Did you also have to add AXL Loop Field Adapter to mount the Placard? Thank you!
Not the axl one but yeah I have an adapter
Protection only from the front and back and only against gunfire.
Ignore your exposed sides and Zero Protection against shrapnel.
0/10 ngmi and that's good
I have side soft armor and hard plates, just not on the carrier at the moment
I know this has little to do with the video but you said the garmin device is able to be tracked: how so? A garmin foretrex is only able to receive and not transmit so how could it possibly be tracked? Just a honest question.
It’s is able to be tracked because the satellites that garmin uses are owned by China
Hey there high speed.
Let me preface this with we all get hung up on the minutia, so you may have found this to be entirely irrelevant to you, but I always like to hear other peoples opinions, anyway.
Seems like those magazines are oriented towards a strong arm instead of towards week arm, making for action movement to turn them around and put them in the rifle. maybe I’m looking at the video wrong like it’s flipped or something, or you found it to be an irrelevant issue.
I find myself yelling at my rookies all the time to fix their mags, but I’d like to hear your opinion on the matter.
Stay safe out there devil dog.
I think it’s just something I’ve always done and trained like that, now it’s more natural for me like thag
Anybody know what the name of the pouches are in the front of the plate carrier holding the mags?
The placard is the Shaw concepts arc v2, the pouch on it is a blue force gear ten speed triple mag pouch
@@TheGruntPerspective You're the best, thank you.
I'm a marine vet myself. Was in from 2009-2013 was with 3rd recon and 2nd marsoc/msog and my whole enlistment I used the crye jpc/jpc 2.0 and still use it to this day and love it I also use my issued eagle industries Camelback backpack on the back of my rig as well
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To replace the camelback bladder, look up the iceplate curve. It’s a plastic container shaped like an armor plate but it’s like a camelback bladder with a hose and everything. Don’t have to worry about it popping when you’re rucking. Semper fi motivator
I’ve seen those, it’s just not enough water in my opinion
Just a question does anybody know what plate carrier he has?
nice set up. no med kit? I'm the MEDIC so to me 2 is 1 and 1 is none. God Bless///
Check out the belt video
Excellent video
Are you right or left handed? Or are you even issued a sidearm? I been out for a while, IDK how much things have changed...
I’m right handed, and no most infantrymen are not issued pistols.
@@TheGruntPerspective Ah, was wondering why the right side wasn't clear. All those mags on the right would interfere with the draw, but if you don't have one no worries right? LOL
@@lincolnpascual exactly, but when I was issued a pistol I had the same setup on the right, and it worked out fine.
@@TheGruntPerspective lol I got a short torso. I can't work it like that unless i use a drop leg Hollywood style all the way by the knee. I just keep it clear.
Good armor setup. 👍🏻
Yeah red light is to help keep your natural night vision, it so you don't have to readjust to the dark
That too!
I use the ice plate hydration carrier on back of my plate carrier works great
COOL PLATE CARRIER SET-UP! 😎
What mag placard do you use? I’m struggling to find a quality placard that can hold 6 mags
It’s a Shaw concepts ARC v2 placard with a blue force gear ten speed triple mag pouch on the front
@@TheGruntPerspective ok thank you so much!
I have that same headlamp, it's great
Plates definitely have value BUT I can say from personal experience plates offer only LIMITED protection. Most of your body is still exposed so be that you and your battle buddies carry appropriate IFAKs and tourniquets and kNOW how to use them.
You can still do an attack without armor, been doing it for 100 years
Rear dangler tub medical kit will hold large water bottles perfectly! Could even use a hand warmer and add shock cord around it to cinch it down.. for same concept..
Anyone who been foot mobile vs vehicle.. there’s three things you can’t have enough.. water, ammo and grenades.
I got water on the plate, belt and ruck. Now with belt Nalgene I have to remove the bottles and place them in the ruck when carrying together cause the interfere with a ruck. Small assault back though isn’t an issue..
I’m about to remove the belt and try the rear dangler for a 1.5ish size water battle.. I think I could get a full 38 Nalgene in a hand warmer with some shock cord though.. and that should still work with a full ruck
As for the pouch on the bladder.. I use it for a water cleaning kit only.. then as you say I’ll throw in a small sustainment/emergency kit if going wo a pack.. but I almost never have that issue cause I always have some form of smaller pack in my ruck or on my ruck shorter ops unless vehicle based. I’ll usually throw a couple basic water bottles in with the 3l bladder to have a quick top up for it just in case.. I also have a collapsed water bag in there as well for quick sourcing water with couple tabs cause you don’t want to put tabs in a bladder with unfiltered water that is a disaster.. takes up no extra room even in a small pack like this.. one bottle sits each side of the bladder and the rest under in the bottom of the pack i also ass shock cord inside all my hydration packs to put more pressure on them cause we all know how shitty they can get if you are prone and under 50% capacity in the bladder.. those compression bands and outside straps only do soo much..
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Thanks for sharing Your perspective. What is the aproximate weight of the whole set up?
I’m not sure, if I had to guess I’d say maybe 20 lbs?
@@TheGruntPerspective Thank You for the reply. That seems a lot- how about the strain on the back/ spine and shoulders? How You deal with those issues? I typically carry plate carrier without mag pouches, except for admin pouch, compass pouch, IFAK, camelback pouch- the whole loadout is on the hip belt. But then again i am not in the infantry. Just some FO who serves in the weekend warriors, and not in the active duty.
@@karamelles98 The weight of it to infantry guys is somewhat irrelevant. No matter how much it weighs we still need to carry it. But it doesn’t bother my back or shoulders. I can wear it for long periods of time and it’s quite comfortable with no additional padding other then what is already built into the vest!
@@TheGruntPerspective Understood. Good luck!
The thing about red lamps is that the light doesn’t reflect off of things like white light does. If you’re using a red light to look at a map on the ground, for example, it won’t illuminate your position. Red light also protects your eyes from loosing focus and what not after they’ve adjusted to the darkness.
If you’re using a red lens to look at maps sometimes you can’t see some of the information like contour lines though!
@@TheGruntPerspective would you rather see contour lines or have enemies in a MG nest (that you can’t see but it’s 10 yards away) vaporize your patrol because you pointed a white LED at a laminated map?
@@HeavilyArmed anytime you use light it’s supposed to be under a tarp in the first place.
Sorry to say that but that red light thing is Bs, its less visible under visible light but you'll definetly see someone turn that on if they're 10 yards away
I'm not a vet but i played airsoft against guys with Nvg, and they can see even a the moon reflecting on my med patch on my medical pouch, so a red light is indeed necessary as a blue/green one, and a white one, but most of the time as Gruntperspective said you try not to use it without a tarp or a poncho, unless you want to be spotted
Looks a modern infantry trooper cannot perform a low crawl. In flat open country with little concealment and no cover, that could be a problem.
I’ve low crawled a considerable amount of distance in this plate carrier
GREAT INFO GREAT VID SF
I gotta say man, I always hated having double stacked mags on the front. It makes getting in the prone and sighting in uncomfortable as fuck. Gun belts are way.
You obviously didn’t watch the whole video
I do as well, just put the mags in there to demonstrate why I have the ten speed on there
Shaw Concepts the best on the market in my opinion.
Definitely amazing quality, can be pricey of course though
GPS devices are passive only. They are only receivers, they don't transmit a signal. There is no way to track a Garmin gps, unless the user of that Garmin has connected the device to a network-enabled device like a phone, and THAT device has been exploited.
Try the MSR dromedary bag, it's a more heavy duty water bladder
I’ve seen them, never pulled the trigger on one
@TheGruntPerspective not sure if there is a tougher one on the market but I think it's unlikely anyone would pop it
Are there other advantages to a clip on placard other than just switching out different mission specific placards?
No I think that’s really the big advantage. But most infantrymen won’t find themselves switching up their gear very often.
@@TheGruntPerspective Thanks! Great vidz! Does the SRT have a small shallow pocket at the top interior of the front plate pocket like the 6094 Modular Plate Carrier does? What would you use that pocket for? I can't access it with my carrier on and have always wondered what its purpose is?
@@Whitehawkvisionfilms yeah it has the same pocket up top. I don’t keep anything in it though for the same reason you mentioned, not very easy to use.
@@TheGruntPerspective Asked LBT about that sternum notch pocket and they laughed and said it was to protect your chest from the armored collar attachments.
Hi where could we get those Tq pouches?
T3 gear makes them!
What watch are you wearing?
In the video a garmin instinct, but in training I wear a cheap gshock
too many ammo pouch on the front.
You clearly didn’t watch the whole video
@@TheGruntPerspective ok, I didnt :D
Wow 10 mags that's gota be heavy
Yeah it is but I normally would only carry 6 on there
@@TheGruntPerspective ex infantryman here from europe. we carried 5 mags for AK63D. but this setup is very good.
what carrier is it?
Iso mat and tap with a sock
Aftermarket no name pouches should be tested under nods.
Try the ice plates my man.
Ice plates. Kek. Gtfo
@@frankcastenza6361 the Ice plates are better then a bladder and do keep you cool. So you GTFO lol
Thanks but no) War in Ukraine shows that setups like these can only ruin your back and knees.. warbelt is the solution, warbelt with clear plate carrier (maximum 3 fastmags and radio)
ps try with normal warbelt and you will never hang a lot of weight again)
If I was the one who made this I would have said Plate carriers or harness setups are all user choice not everyone works the same with gear
True if you have the ability to make that choice. A lot of people don’t though.
put links to your gear