How awful. Even today Australia and NZ are marketed as some kind of Utopia however evil does not discriminate. It walks among us in cities, town , villages worldwide.
I am so sorry for loss I want to give u some info on what happened to me in the waitkias in 1985, I was walking to my friends house and noticed a man in a car I felt worried as I was walking home a short walk he was still there he follow me a tryed to abuct me. I can't image what would off become off me if I had it got away I was 9 turning 10. Since that day I suffered pts anixity night meres and a fearfully my whole life. It destroyed my life. It was on waima rd woodlands park and I have never had closer to what happened to him or support from the government all I know is changed me that day and I want justage I want to know if it was the same man that took your little girl. This man was wearing a cap white skin the car was identified by a person who hurd my screams for help. I honestly felt like I was going to die if I didn't escape. Apart of me did die that day and I have no answers, but want to help find him. Maybe there could be a link between him as she was found so close to me. Sending you love and peace. Mandy.melrose@gmail.com Is my email address. Xxx
@@Indiah-fb2eq that's awful. I'm sorry u had been through such a terrible event in ur early life. That must have tortured u for years having to look over ur shoulders constantly from that time and onwards. I hope u have found some answers and solace in ur life now. An event like that will haunt u if it is left unsolved. I've been looking through unsolved crimes and mysteries in NZ and there are so many and it upsets me especially when they go cold for so many years. Two of my friends were murdered in two separate occasions and is still unsolved to this day. One happening in 2005 and the other in 2020 during the pandemic, both in the Waikato Region and there are no leads whatsoever and not enough exposure to get it prioritised. It always sits uneasy with me knowing the perpetrator is still out there on the loose. But yea I hope ur doing well and take care.
I pray someone come forward with evidence, or witness to catch this person and the person come forward!!! If the person is dead, I pray whomever they confessed to come forward, even if they have no proof, just the knowledge!!!
Murder was quite rare in New Zealand until the 1970s. I remember there being a few young women who never made it home: Olive Walker, Mona Blades, Jennifer Beard and Tracey Ann, who was the same age as me.
im so sorry my heart breaks. I was a victim to abduction in 1985 in was 9 in titiragi but I was so lucky . he still stoll from me years off fear and pts anixity my love u too
Indiah 1290 Best wishes to you hun, I always view the victims like you as brave survivors! You are stronger than you think, it’s ok to cry or break down whenever you need ok? Just remember to pick yourself up, self care - do what makes you happy and healthy or eat something that makes your soul happy❤︎ Don’t hold it in, talk heart to heart with someone you trust at least once a week.
@@sonnytitter5259 how can you be sure that Iraena Asher's killer is connected to Tracey Ann Patient's murder? Surely someone would have seen Tracey getting pushed into a car by a stranger on the night she was murdered.
From what I have been told by someone close to the case, and various pieces of information over the years, I’m about 90% sure it was a police officer that killed her.
my father suspected his cousin of doing it... after my father died in 2009 I made contact with Tracey's sister about my father's suspicions .. she said they had suspicions elsewhere so nothing came of it ..I still wonder if my father's cousin did it, I don't know if he's still alive I haven't heard anything of him in years.. but according to my father his behaviour was really suspicious at the time and for months after. we lived in west Auckland my father's cousin lived next door to us when this happened ..not sure what he did for a living but he definitely wasn't a cop.
she was a year older than me at the time of her murder. And only years later a friend I use to walk with along Te Atatu Road near Kokiri Street said she saw a man in a car as we walked by exposing himself. She was so shocked she didn't tell me until years later as we were about 12 at the time. I always have wondered if he was someone linked to Tracey Anns disappearance . There was also a pervert I was told to keep away from at the Waitmatea athletics club as he use to take knickers from peoples clothes line in the area. around Te Atatu Road. Another thing is where she went missing was just up from the Henderson Police Station.
I get flashes now and then of things that have happened and I believe the person that did this was a police officer or a security guard. The number that he gave was his badge number or employee number. And I believe he told her that there was something dangerous. Going on in the neighborhood and to get into his car. Because he had a badge or a uniform on, she trusted him.
he would of be in jail now or died was he some one who was on holiday in nz but could be from another country an might be in jail in that country or killer in another country
She said about putting flowers at places people have died in road accidents - those roadside crosses etc. Or outside a dead victims home. Think all the flowers outside Buckingham Palace after Princess Diana died......the homes of murder victims - the Chris Watts case. Bouquets and flowers piled up outside where the mother and her 2 daughters were murdered.
Its 2023 now...has there been any recent DNA testing? Its amazing what they can do now, they should be running everything back through to see if there is any updated information.
I'm glad you noticed that, I thought the same thing, of course he wants to spend the rest of his life in the slammer so the police can brag about how capable they are and grab the glory. Remember what was said at inspector huttons funeral, some obviously young person lauded his honesty, forgetting that his actions although it got him a promotion cost us millions and damaged Arthur's life tremendously. Recently I went to the spca, I was feeding a stray cat, it wasn't feral, that's what you do enquire. They saw my dog getting out of the car, it's 12 and has arthritis. All of a sudden I'm the worst person in the world and the upshot I was threatened with legal redress and they took the dog away. The legal bit is a dead end and I insisted on having someone on my side. I knew a local psychic who could assist prior to euthanasia and square it off with the dog and me, I was then OK with it going ahead. Afterwards my family was touched on in almost glorious technicolour, accurate too, so what I am saying is try this avenue, many capable people can do this, it's far more mainstream these days.
That’s not what she said at all. She said her mum had asked her to go to the site and lay flowers. She said: “I know that’s what you do when there’s been an accident...” She was making a point about flower markers, there is no suggestion that she thinks what happened to her sister was an accident - she said she hopes the perpetrator has had an awful, awful life. Think it’s a bit crummy that you interpreted her words as something contrary to the pain she is clearly still going through 40 years after this horrific event, not really something you can ‘mishear’ if you’re paying attention.
@@lahteash yes its the same one. the killer is still alive and thinks its a joke. he place her ring in a bin and called the police from a pay phone and told them where it was. there's a article on it.
Hidden in plain sight. So much for being cops yeah?.. 'Kidnapped' not far from the police station yeah?.. "Where you headed to young lady?" would Tracey be more likely to talk to a stranger, OR A COP? 🤫 And you wonder WHY the person hasnt been caught yeah? 🤐
That poor girl. She needs justice. It’s been way too long.
How awful. Even today Australia and NZ are marketed as some kind of Utopia however evil does not discriminate. It walks among us in cities, town , villages worldwide.
I am so sorry for loss I want to give u some info on what happened to me in the waitkias in 1985, I was walking to my friends house and noticed a man in a car I felt worried as I was walking home a short walk he was still there he follow me a tryed to abuct me. I can't image what would off become off me if I had it got away I was 9 turning 10. Since that day I suffered pts anixity night meres and a fearfully my whole life. It destroyed my life. It was on waima rd woodlands park and I have never had closer to what happened to him or support from the government all I know is changed me that day and I want justage I want to know if it was the same man that took your little girl. This man was wearing a cap white skin the car was identified by a person who hurd my screams for help. I honestly felt like I was going to die if I didn't escape. Apart of me did die that day and I have no answers, but want to help find him. Maybe there could be a link between him as she was found so close to me. Sending you love and peace. Mandy.melrose@gmail.com
Is my email address. Xxx
@@Indiah-fb2eq that's awful. I'm sorry u had been through such a terrible event in ur early life. That must have tortured u for years having to look over ur shoulders constantly from that time and onwards. I hope u have found some answers and solace in ur life now. An event like that will haunt u if it is left unsolved. I've been looking through unsolved crimes and mysteries in NZ and there are so many and it upsets me especially when they go cold for so many years. Two of my friends were murdered in two separate occasions and is still unsolved to this day. One happening in 2005 and the other in 2020 during the pandemic, both in the Waikato Region and there are no leads whatsoever and not enough exposure to get it prioritised. It always sits uneasy with me knowing the perpetrator is still out there on the loose. But yea I hope ur doing well and take care.
The arrogance of the killer kidnapping her so near to a police station. Hope the killer will be found soon.
I pray someone come forward with evidence, or witness to catch this person and the person come forward!!! If the person is dead, I pray whomever they confessed to come forward, even if they have no proof, just the knowledge!!!
ALWAYS someone coming out with the "SOMEONE KNOWS SOMETHING!" Maybe. But also maybe NOT. Maybe no one knows.
Murder was quite rare in New Zealand until the 1970s. I remember there being a few young women who never made it home: Olive Walker, Mona Blades, Jennifer Beard and Tracey Ann, who was the same age as me.
same as most countries
im so sorry my heart breaks. I was a victim to abduction in 1985 in was 9 in titiragi but I was so lucky . he still stoll from me years off fear and pts anixity my love u too
Indiah 1290 Best wishes to you hun, I always view the victims like you as brave survivors! You are stronger than you think, it’s ok to cry or break down whenever you need ok? Just remember to pick yourself up, self care - do what makes you happy and healthy or eat something that makes your soul happy❤︎ Don’t hold it in, talk heart to heart with someone you trust at least once a week.
There's been a serial killer in the waitakere's since the 80s, it's time that detectives did something about it.
Iraena Asher. 11 Oct, 2004
@@sonnytitter5259 i remember that
@@sonnytitter5259 how can you be sure that Iraena Asher's killer is connected to Tracey Ann Patient's murder? Surely someone would have seen Tracey getting pushed into a car by a stranger on the night she was murdered.
From what I have been told by someone close to the case, and various pieces of information over the years, I’m about 90% sure it was a police officer that killed her.
my father suspected his cousin of doing it... after my father died in 2009 I made contact with Tracey's sister about my father's suspicions .. she said they had suspicions elsewhere so nothing came of it ..I still wonder if my father's cousin did it, I don't know if he's still alive I haven't heard anything of him in years.. but according to my father his behaviour was really suspicious at the time and for months after. we lived in west Auckland my father's cousin lived next door to us when this happened ..not sure what he did for a living but he definitely wasn't a cop.
she was a year older than me at the time of her murder. And only years later a friend I use to walk with along Te Atatu Road near Kokiri Street said she saw a man in a car as we walked by exposing himself. She was so shocked she didn't tell me until years later as we were about 12 at the time. I always have wondered if he was someone linked to Tracey Anns disappearance . There was also a pervert I was told to keep away from at the Waitmatea athletics club as he use to take knickers from peoples clothes line in the area. around Te Atatu Road. Another thing is where she went missing was just up from the Henderson Police Station.
You remember the name of the person at the Waitemata athletics club?
This breaks my heart 💔 I hope her family get some kind of justice... sending prayers and love 🙏❣️🤍
2021. Any updates?
I get flashes now and then of things that have happened and I believe the person that did this was a police officer or a security guard. The number that he gave was his badge number or employee number. And I believe he told her that there was something dangerous. Going on in the neighborhood and to get into his car. Because he had a badge or a uniform on, she trusted him.
I thought he wanted directions ?? because he had a map he then drugged her in the car .
You’re wrong. He was asking her for directions… then when she got closer he grabbed her and dragged her into his car
Is there anything on the DNA database? I presume DNA was recovered at the scene?
Yes. They still got the stocking sealed away in the Station
@@LockingLatu genetic geneology should solve it
I so remember this. RIP Tracy
he would of be in jail now or died was he some one who was on holiday in nz but could be from another country an might be in jail in that country or killer in another country
Watch the sensing murder episode.
Did anyone else hear the sister say that it was an accident ? ? ?😕
She said about putting flowers at places people have died in road accidents - those roadside crosses etc. Or outside a dead victims home. Think all the flowers outside Buckingham Palace after Princess Diana died......the homes of murder victims - the Chris Watts case. Bouquets and flowers piled up outside where the mother and her 2 daughters were murdered.
If you go on Facebook and look up Paul McQueen in Scottsdale Arizona he looks exactly like the police sketch.
Was he in NZ at the time Joshua?
Its 2023 now...has there been any recent DNA testing? Its amazing what they can do now, they should be running everything back through to see if there is any updated information.
The trail went cold podcast brought me here . So sad !
was there DNA
nope
DNA?
Wasn't around back then
Also the DNA on the evidence if not stored or secured properly will have been contaminated or lost
Do you have any idea what you're talking about? Do you think that DNA testing has always been available? No. Read a little now and then, how about?
😢😢😢😢
Police given his name by psychics
Why is he NOT locked up. How many more have died?
Psychics know nothing.
you can't use Psychics information to jail someone . idiot
Come forward? Is this detective gone made?
I'm glad you noticed that, I thought the same thing, of course he wants to spend the rest of his life in the slammer so the police can brag about how capable they are and grab the glory. Remember what was said at inspector huttons funeral, some obviously young person lauded his honesty, forgetting that his actions although it got him a promotion cost us millions and damaged Arthur's life tremendously. Recently I went to the spca, I was feeding a stray cat, it wasn't feral, that's what you do enquire. They saw my dog getting out of the car, it's 12 and has arthritis. All of a sudden I'm the worst person in the world and the upshot I was threatened with legal redress and they took the dog away. The legal bit is a dead end and I insisted on having someone on my side. I knew a local psychic who could assist prior to euthanasia and square it off with the dog and me, I was then OK with it going ahead. Afterwards my family was touched on in almost glorious technicolour, accurate too, so what I am saying is try this avenue, many capable people can do this, it's far more mainstream these days.
Did anyone else hear the sister call it an accident ? ? ?😕
That’s not what she said at all. She said her mum had asked her to go to the site and lay flowers. She said: “I know that’s what you do when there’s been an accident...” She was making a point about flower markers, there is no suggestion that she thinks what happened to her sister was an accident - she said she hopes the perpetrator has had an awful, awful life. Think it’s a bit crummy that you interpreted her words as something contrary to the pain she is clearly still going through 40 years after this horrific event, not really something you can ‘mishear’ if you’re paying attention.
It heart broke
Yes aye sister the story is still out there even after 40 years
Did you do DNA from Tracy
Go to sensing murder. They are good!
Already have done Paul, they were able to give them a profile of the killer
Get in touch with sensing murder show. Sue nicolson
I thought they did this episode? Could be wrong but it’s similar to the one where the kid left a ring in the car
Why have they stopped sensing murder???
@@lahteash yes its the same one. the killer is still alive and thinks its a joke. he place her ring in a bin and called the police from a pay phone and told them where it was. there's a article on it.
They did a episode on the case
There it's Tracey she's it....
We love Tracey though
Hidden in plain sight. So much for being cops yeah?.. 'Kidnapped' not far from the police station yeah?.. "Where you headed to young lady?" would Tracey be more likely to talk to a stranger, OR A COP? 🤫 And you wonder WHY the person hasnt been caught yeah? 🤐
From what I’ve been told by someone tied to the investigation, he believed it was a cop that did it.