My first time melting brass with the waste oil burner
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- My first time melting brass with the waste oil burner
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Since you have the grate on top of the burner use that to preheat the brass to prevent steam explosion cause the brass can still have moisture on it and putting it directly into the crucible without preheating the metal you take a chance of a steam explosion and sending molten metal everywhere
Thanks for the tip I will do that
@@Okiescrapper he is right .I worked in a factory were we did zinc plating . Anything with a hole in it were you can get condensation can cause an explosion
If you set you material on top the melter you can pre heat them before adding them to the pot.
Back in Korea one of my friends made a sand cast of his favorite bowling ball & actually cast a copy of his bowling ball in brass ,I always say to him ,you got balls of brass !
I like the idea of curing the crucible in a little oven like that! Would save me getting yelled at by the spouse for the next one! :)
I was doing coin rings for a while and got the oven for powder coating, so now I find other uses for it. thanks for stopping by
Ya just have to do it when she's out with the girls.😊
Interesting to see the process, thank you for sharing.
it is nice to know that I can get the heat to melt brass, now I need to practice to get a better product. Thanks for stopping by
brass is a tough melt always dirty borax or not copper is much nicer comes out clean and i would suggest simwool blanket for your furnace withstands 2300 degrees i have melted cast iron and it holds up well
Thanks for the tip Dana, I may get some refectory cement for the bottom and put a thin coat on, and as you said a blanket for the inside I have a lot of room in there,
hello you need a porta band saw seeing you cut that valve from a hot water heater just cut straight down press wash fall out then hit stem down and your good to go with a lot these waste in cutting a porta band is a scrapers best friend
I see k&d scrapping just puts a pointy screwdriver and hit it with a hammer to pry under that piece you tried to get off first and it just pops off..👍👍
Super interesting to see this being done.
Glad you enjoyed it!, and thanks for stopping by
I bought the cheapest crucible I could find on Amazon. as soon as it showed up it went in the foundry and melted copper in it. my foundry is sand and p.o.p. it's been through at least 50 rounds of 2000 degrees plus and still works. I've never done anything else to it. the crucible is a beast. I can watch it bubble and it's nearly turned into glass or something. no cracks and still going. I use a diesel siphon nozzle with compressed air. I'm now trying for 2400 degrees...
sounds like you have a very good setup, I may try a different nozzle in mine see if it gets hotter, I could use more heat in the melting pot, I get plenty of heat with what I have in the blue furnace.
@@Okiescrapper man you gotta go compressed air and diesel. to burn used oil it's gotta be filtered and pre heated almost to flash point for the best results and if you get it from a shop somewhere they dump water coolant tyranny fluid oil...everything in the same pot. ceramic insulation is king but sand and plaster work pretty good. I've tried everything. propane, oil, veggy oil, citronella fuel (which is great in the summer. keeps the skeeters away lol) oxygen and propane (don't do that) gas you name it. diesel works best. make yourself a siphon nozzle. heck out NOBOX7's channel. that guys a frigging Pyro genius.
Nothing is learned until you do it wrong at least once.
boy you got that right, I was kind of disappointed with the outcome, I felt better after I took them to the wire wheel. I should have done that on camera, my first time with brass so I will get better as I go. never give up
6:38 "At least put a wet glove on". A wet glove is little to no use to protect you from something hot. Heat travels through the moisture right away. Never use a damp pot holder or damp oven glove to remove a hot dish from the oven. You will get a burn and most likely drop your casserole dish or whatever. Dry gloves for hot items!
boy you need to get your hearing checked I said at least put a LEFT glove on. and I thought my hearing was bad. lol.
@@Okiescrapper My older brother said "You need to get a hearing aid. It will change your life". I guess maybe I should. Sorry about the mistake. Come to think of it, why in the hell would anyone want to put a wet glove on while scrapping.
You are my new favorite channel now. I just love what you are doing 👍. Question, is the big meltpots made from concrete/cement? Thanks for great videos. You give me so much ideas. Thanx from Sweden 🇸🇪
How many gallons of oil did you consume im near you and know alot about oil burners i can help you build a jet engine like burner if you need
I used about 3/4 of a gallon of oil, thanks for stopping by
The forge is looking good
Thank you, well it got hot enough to melt brass but it also melted the bottom of the furnace, the perlite and cement mixture, guess I will get some refectory cement to fill in the hole. and thinking about putting down a layer of kaowool on the bottom and around the inside to help insulate it and I may get some for the melting pot too
You can also use the salt Windsor salt as a cleaner
ok thanks for the tip
Down here the scrap yards won't take any kind of melted metals. Stay cool, I know it's got to be hot there same as here.
Central Illinois this week has been super nice this week... high about 80 all week!! Usually mid to high 90s
I don't think the yards here will take them either, the plan is to sell the ingots on eBay for 2 to 3 times scrap value
@@Okiescrapper Good to know info!!!
Cool video really enjoyed it
Glad you enjoyed it, Thanks for stopping by
Be careful bud, those brass fumes are toxic when melting.
@3:40 name that cat chocolate or Reese's as your other cat is Peanut Butter 🐈
it's real sketchy how hot you have to go for copper. my burner is screaming with a 26 gallon compressor set on max tank pressure and wide open. it's LOUD LOUD. it's a little scary. 250 degrees does t seem like much but it it's a big jump from brass heat to copper heat. I don't think the waste pil set up you've got going to do it. good luck
I got it hot enough in the blue furnace to melt brass but it also melted the floor in the furnace
borax isn't necessary.
You are gonna have a wet charge one of these days. Just one drop of water will expand 1300 time's,and explode. Please pre-heat anything you put in that crucible. Stay safe scrap out the world
Does that oil burner smell bad or not with the air injection
no bad smell at all
@@Okiescrapperthanks for the reply. Seems like a lot of BTUs. Think info of other applications
What's the borax for
flux to help get the impurities out
I don't see where the money to be made doing this. Scrap yard not going to take this and the money used to melt the brass. Unless you sell them for $7 per lb
will sell on eBay,
Simply place the relief valves in the vice upside down and hammer the rod. All the unwanted parts will come out in one piece. I've done this many times. Takes a few seconds. Hope this helps.
Thanks man
I've just crushed them in the vise. They split right apart.
Just pound a straight screwdriver through that metal top on the pressure regulator and then twist and it pops right out. It takes 5 seconds and you are not cutting anything. Ive done thousands and thousands of them
Thank you!
Welcome
Looks like fun!
1700 degrees f. whistle... where's your apron at? you had it for the aluminum melt, that crucible gets dropped (spills or splashes) and you're in serious trouble my friend. as someone who worked for a brick layer i recognize the (yellow) "fire brick" 26:52 you use to make your pour (with great skill i might add) (fire brick used for the bottom floor of fire places). your videos are the best.
shrink your oil burner down to a height of 15 inches it'll take less heat to melt stuff like copper and brass and keep face away from the fumes of brass melting zinc fumes are toxic which is that yellow your getting on the grill
I got a devil forge now so I will only be using the Waste oil burner and blue furnace to melt aluminum
@@Okiescrapper have fun with the devil forge i own the small one one day hope to get the bigger one and i was referring to the blue burner that you needed to shrink down in height
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I like these video's but the best one so far in my mind is the one where the aluminum fell into the water bucket are u gonna do another one like that hello from holland
yes I will I need to get a bigger and deeper tank and I may get a water pump and make a water slide to cool the aluminum on the way down into the water tank, but busy with my daily 9 to 5 and picking up scrap and taking in a few loads, it's a scrapping channel, but my best viewed videos are melting videos. I was disappointed in the way the ingots turned out but after taking them to the wire wheel they look much better, and I know it will get better as that was my first time melting brass. I will try to do another melting pot video sometime this month and show the aluminum melting too. thanks for stopping by Harry from Holland, from what I have seen Holland is a beautiful place
keep practicing you'll get it dont give up I would also think since you use the borax you should pour a dummy mold 1st before the other molds to get nicer purer bars
Hello sir! I love your all your video's, just wanted to thank you for sharing them with us. For your forge and melting videos, please get yourself a leather apron, welders boots and a face shield.. It only takes one time for fa lash or splash to burn you really bad. I certainly don't mean to come off like I'm telling you what to do. You obviously know what you're doing. Just a concern from someone that has seen really bad burns. Always look forward to your videos.
I have the apron and face shield, respirator. I need to get used to using them
That’s good advice for everyone wanting to do this stuff
My first furnace I made out of a 5 gal bucket and used wood ash and rock and floor grout as my insulation. Worked good. Never got hot on the outside. Bucket had now rusted in half but the insulation still holding up
I know that this is probably a stupid question but what is the purpose of melting the brass?
I was going to ask the same question lol
Pure price vs. Dirty price
brass ingots sell on eBay for more than 3 times scrap price to people that like to stack metal or collect metal ingots
Thank you
But then you have ebay fees plus shipping plus all the time to melt it down. Is it worth it?
am i the only one that feels like finding you a big steel work table? a bit sketchy there buddy
That was a very good try. You will get better it looks like you need to get a little bit hotter or molten two thumbs thank you
that's what I was thinking as I was pouring the ingots, it looked to cool, and I should have skimmed the borax off the top too before I did the pour,
Your oil burner is proving itself, on a good day I can melt about 50 pounds worth of brass on a full tank of propane. You definitely whooped the overhead of producing your ingots
I used about 3/4 of a gallon of waste oil and a little propane to light the burner, thanks for stopping by
@@Okiescrapper I have been told that transmission fluid will burn much hotter than motor oil. I would like to be able to melt using waste oil but it would give my neighbors a reason to whine
@@mattyal9347 try using old cup fat, who can complain about the smell of potatoes with peanuts?
Awesome video I need one of those furnace like yours so I can melt anything down
they are nice, and fun to use, too hot here right now to use it. but I do have a lot to melt
As far as I know (I could be wrong) the smoke coming out is Zinc, When I melt brass I add a bit of Zinc rod at the end to replace the percentage, I have no idea if this is necessary but zinc rod is pretty cheap on Fleabay.. Regards from Australia
ok thanks for the info I may have to get some rods from eBay.
If you are scrapping water heaters then look at the top of the heater.
You should find a bolt screwed into the heater. It will.have the word "anode" stamped into the metal. This anode is made of zinc.
@@donniebrown2896 Hah Great! zink does cost money !! I have two tanks in my backyard.
yeah the fluorescent flames and crazy poison gas is zinc. I just burn it all out of it. scrap yards won't take any of the bars I make. they say they don't know for sure what's in them. also be mindful of lead doing this. you'll never even know you've been poisoned until it's too late
@@cowdough94 Problem is if you burn all of the zinc away it is no longer Brass
#happyscrapping
Thanks Walt
Hey, I did this! What a pain! I never got good clean bars from scrap everything had black specks in it. Ended up melting it all again and adding copper to make red brass.
I may have to do that, another guy said brass was hard, and copper was much easier
@@Okiescrapper He wasn't lying. The best brass pours I have done is when I made my own brass from copper & zinc. Recycled brass has been problematic for me.
Ya over heated it very easy to do
I get clean bars I don't use borax inless it's pop cans .for starters he needs to get all the dross out before he pours
@@joneastman5627 melted copper will pour under the Slag. aluminum is really the only metal I scoop the crap off of
Did you make the cross mold . Or purchase it ?
I have a wolf in front of the moon mold coming soon. I don't remember if they had a cross mold. but I plan to order the praying hands mold next I may order 2 molds this time they come from Poland so it takes a while for them to get here, they have a lighthouse mold
@@Okiescrapper awesome 😎
I enjoy your videos where you melt the aluminum motors using your oil fired forge , but I think that you should invest in a devil forge ( sure it uses propane) for when go to melt copper and brass the other metals that require much higher heat . It would be much easier and faster . The oil (used) forge works great for the aluminum and would still do it that way ! It seems to take much longer and use alot more oil to do the harder metals . Just an idea .
yep I plan to get a devil forge in January when the company buys back my personal time they buy back everything over 80 hours so I should have enough to buy the devil forge around the end of January, I will use the melting pot for aluminum motors and what not, a lot of people like it and I get good views from it I need to get it up and running again soon
Slow down would ya... jk for some reason its satisfying to watch at the faster speed. Carry on teach, you've got my full attention sir.
best way to get a lot of content in a short video
Can u make second shelf over burner exhaust like a pre-heat on exhaust 2 maximize burner use & fuel???? P.s your giving me idea's
always some way to improve on the design
Looks like aluminum
it's brass, looks like some red brass mixed in
Those small copper tubes has a steel spring inside.
yes I have cleaned a few, I am just getting a pile of them and do a bunch at once. thanks for stopping by
love it
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with brass melt a puddle and then introduce new metal to the puddle so it sinks (preheating of course) it will help cut down on dross/slag. I have a very nice supply of silicon bronze unfortunately someone ran off with most of my gunmetal bronze 200lb more or less still have about 100lb. have a great day.
Thanks for the tip, and thanks for stopping by