Stephen Curry and Mark Price Have A Lot More In Common Than You Think 👀 | Run It Back
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- In this episode of 'Run It Back' with Isiah Thomas, Zeke breaks down film on @stephcurry and Mark Price, two of the greatest shooters the NBA has ever seen.
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damn didnt knew he was very close to a 50 40 90 in his entire carreer.
Mark Price is criminally slept on. He invented splitting the pick and roll.
Seriously
Facts
But he is nowhere near Steph
@oo70mar McGrady has 7 all star appearances and is the most overrated player in NBA history, so that means nothing.
@@shinobu37 He's near Nash.
Nice to see Mark Price get some love.
Make more of these, this is a great series. Isiah's takes are so interesting.
Definitely, his and McHale or Webber are my favorites 👍🏾
@@Avonbarksdaleable And Dominique Wilkins is another great one to listen to. Very smart and explains things well.
Mark Price was an absolute beast. One of the greatest guards to ever play the game. Really fun to watch. Sad that his name is forgotten amongst all time greats.
Kudos Zeke for reaching back and reminding people of the greatness of Mark Price. He is slept on!
This man is spitting *FACTS*
I’m so glad you brought Mark Price up because he’s and example of a guy who just worked hard and didn’t draw negative attention; just respect.
Price is very underrated. My pops saw him play in person back in the day I remembering him saying he was killing everyone cause he was so fast.
@@mkawayoshi Yeah he did his work efficiently but was not a cocky punk like the nba is full of today. The 80’s players were some of the finest people. I can even watch the nba now. No heart, no effort, not a lot of team play. That Cavs team Price was on might not have won a championship, but they were loaded with great players. Hot Rod Williams, Brad Daugherty, Craig Ehlo, Larry Nance etc. always competitive.
@@mkawayoshi He is ranked correctly.
Mad respect for Isaiah and in a Cavs fan have been my whole life I watched Mark Price as a young kid going to games. Never realizing at that time the greatness that I was watching. I also have had the pleasure of watching both Isaiah and Mark play each other live. So he said it pioneer s. So was Isaiah Thomas.
am I crazy to think he is still the best cavs of all time not named lebron
@@jq7352 oh no doubt he had one of the purest form of shooting !!!
@@Laceyplayzroblox it sucks those cavs team was another victim of Jordan dominance I think y’all coulda won a championship if not for Jordan
@@jq7352 oh yeah no doubt. I hated Jordan but now nothing but respect!!
Great to see Mark Price getting love.
I loved Mark Price. Unfortunately back then sports science, medical advancements and nutrition plans werent very advanced. Price should have had a much longer career then he had, and maybe thats the reason not a lot of people remember him. He was a fantastic small guard.
@MistaMemphis10 The late 80’s/early 90’s Cavs always made the playoffs. They were a good team who played on National TV pretty frequently. I watched them in Texas on basic cable back in the day.
That is EXACTLY the reason. Stockton had unreal longevity. Isiah and Hardaway (Tim) had decent longevity. Price and Kevin Johnson, not so much.
Or Mark and KJ would be in the Hall as well.
It's also why Moses Malone is largely forgotten - because at his peak (1983-ish) he was one of the best centers ever, but it was short-lived.
The knee injury left him at about 70% of what he was prior. Still pretty good but a small losing that % is hampered much more than a big.
welp its official curry vs price the portal episode 3
Curry vs Mahmoud Abdul Rauf
Thanks Isiah! I'd spaced out Price, who was probably the best pure shooter of his era. A total prototype of Curry (which is the "maximization" a smaller player within the game.) Price was "Curry" before Curry took it to another level. Good stuff.
One of the greatest all time but knee injuries cut his greatness short
True. Injuries matter. And kill or at least tarnish legacies.
Walton, Maravich, King, Grant Hill.
Even Bird and Baylor had shortened primes due to injuries.
@@Amick44 imagine the records those guys would have broken
Great hommage to Price, one of the best pg of his era ! ❤️ The oldschool Cavs (late 80s/early 90s) had a great team with him, Nance, Daugherty and Ehlo
Real fun to watch these guys and also hear Joe Tate's play by play. Enjoyed them more than the LeBron years.
@@jalkabre5904 to be fair I was too young (and too far from the US) to really know about them, at the time. Mostly because of the emphasis the local medias made on bigger teams and their stars like the Lakers, Bulls, Celtics etc. Thanks youtube for giving me a chance to know more about these cavs (their 92 eastern conference semi finals against the celtics👌🏾☝🏾).
Nice work Isiah! I'm sure Mark Price appreciated this coming from a Legend.
They have great respect for each other. You may still find a clip on YT where they are interviewed together after their playing days. Worth watching.
Mark Price underrated. Cavs legend.
Love this. Need different types of shows that aren't just people shouting
loved this content! need more of it
I actually see a lot of Trae Young in Price more than I see Curry. I think Price in today's game would have a similar impact as a Step or Trae for sure. He was quicker than Steph and a better shooter than Trae but could handle the ball like both of them and make the same kinds of plays via his finishing ability, passing or shooting. Price was my fav PG of the 90's until Iverson came on the scene and I'm a Chicago guy.
Same
lol
Steph's handles are miles ahead of Price and Young.
Sorry my friend but curry Is on another level
Price was one of my fav players back then. But he was no where near Curry. Look at points and 3 points made.
Really good stuff!
Thanks Isiah! Class move reminding people of one of the other all-time great point guards. Guys like you and Mark Price made the game special for 5’7” guys like me.
I would of went with Abdul Rauf but mark price makes a lot of sense as well
I like Abdul but he wasn't a great shooter and even then was a sub 40% from deep in every single season he played even worse when he started the whole season when healthy. He also wasn't too quick and not much of a facilitator at all, infact he was horrible at it.
He can dunk tho so he had that for him.
Great video.
The thing is the game has just evolved! You can take one player from every era and there’s one from the new era that has taken what they left and amplified it. History always repeats itself.
I was of that era. Watched guys like Isiah and Price go into the trees and get clobbered. And they still went in, night after night. While Isiah was good enough to control the game and score with the best of them, he teams didn’t start getting great until he learned to involve the big men that dominated that era. Same with Price whose main purpose was to work with Nance and Daugherty at the time.
While the Pistons were sort of ahead of their time with their guard rotation (Dumars, Thomas, and Vinnie off the bench)… it was a much tougher game for guards.
Makes you wonder how a guy like Mark Price would have dominated in todays league which is the golden age for guards.
Grew up in Cleveland during this era. Loved Mark Price! Great to seem him get some respect
When Stephbwas born in Akron Ohio his Dad was in the same team as Price at that time
Fun fact. IN a lot of circles in the NBA at the time, it was supposed to be the Cavaliers that challenged Boston and Detroit. I don't think people that missed that era understand how the Bulls were viewed. Jordan was absolutely incredible but still an enigma. And with Detroit it was a rivalry but Cleveland had Price, Nance, Williams, Harper/Ehlo and this guy named BRAD DAUGHERTYt center. People were NOT at all convinced Jordan's style of play could translate into titles. It's weird to think about but yeah, it was Cleveland people thought had the future locked up. But then Jordan was just that great & wouldn't be denied and Scottie Pippen emerged. The Bulls weren't just building for Detroit, they had to be aware of Cleveland & to an extent still Boston.
As for Price - that guy was incredible but even here it doesn't do him justice. Cleveland had even drafted this kid back then named Kevin Johnson to compete for the spot in Price's second season. Price won the job, Johnson would later end up in Phoenix - and have a hell of a career. Later they drafted another very good PG named Terrell Brandon... and Price still kept the job. The guy was legit. In the 1993 NBA playoffs, I remember Phil Jackson saying how much he had to push BJ Armstrong (Bulls PG) because he had to face off against so many TOUGH PGs. Mookie Blaylock, then Mark Price, THEN NY with Doc Rivers, THEN Phoenix with the previously mentioned Kevin Johnson.
yeah Price was so good that Mahorn had to lay him out with an elbow so that the Pistons could catch up with Cavs during the '89 season... bet Zeke remembers that too... LOL
MARK PRICE. This man needs to be a Hall of Famer.
These are great
GREAT VIDEO, AND ACKNOWLEDGMENT BY ISIAH TO PRICE, ALSO GREAT QUOTE FROM EARTH WIND AND FIRE.
Mark Price is in the Hall Fame right!? Nice and accurate vid IT. Thanks for the knowledge.
Bro bleacher report is killing it these days
The EWF quote at the end👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Pretty sure there’s only one person you can compare Curry to…
Brian Scalabine
For me, that's for Caruso, since he's a Bulls player, too. XD
Factory
You can't even spell his name right
3:00 Zeeke Preaching
My favorite player of all time. I'm from Cleveland. Appreciate the love because I've been arguing this for years
One of the future portal episodes should be either Stephen Curry vs Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf or Stephen Curry vs Mark Price
This was beautiful mark price was great 😊
"Sound never dissapates. It only recreates in another place"-Earth, Wind, and Fire. Scientifically known as they already Law of Conservation of Energy.
Yes 🥰
Mark Price's form is impeccable. May not be like the lower set point style forms of today that allow them to shoot further consistently, but Mark's form was beautiful and was used in so many situations....
Every time I see Zeke, I watched 👍👍👍👍
His laugh make you smile☺👍🏾
Mark Price had that killer crossover
Mark Price was a mix between John Stockton and Steve Nash. Although I like the Stephen Curry comparison. His game was definitely a bit ahead of its time. And he was one of the first guards to utilize the 3-point shot more than most of the point guards in the league at the time.
Some recognition to Price!
Outside of Steph Curry, Mark Price may be the purest shooter at the point guard position we've ever seen. Unfortunatelybfor price, he incurred far too many injuries during his NBA career.
i would love to see a virtual matchup against all these comparisons that would be great.
Read the title, said "no TF they don't" and went on my mary way 😂🤣✌🏾
Shout out to Isiah. Top 3 PG all time.
Who are your top 5 shooters in NBA history?
Steph Curry
Ray Allen
Reggie Miller
Klay Thompson
Larry Bird
@@NaesNivrae same here
Ben Simmons
Shaquille O'Neal
Dwight Howard
Javale McGee
Draymond Green
Steph
Mark Price
Walter Davis
George Gervin
Jerry West
@@NaesNivrae mine's different, but excellent.
This is why i love basketball. See HOFs give crudos to players who were great in their era but we don't talk about now.
Mark Price belongs in the HOF. He was better than Stockton. Stockton had a longer career with less injuries.
Bleacher report better continue this series...maybe next time isiah can say who's the current player that plays like him...
Watched him play at the end of his career in Golden State. Back then, I knew he was automatical once he got to the free throw line.
He was decent at GS. He was awesome at Cleveland.
I think comparing Price to Nash is more adequate. Deadly 3 pt shooter, played conservatively on offense, more traditional PG. Steph's ability to routinely hit shots that are so difficult it leaves opposing teammates shrugging their shoulders and yelling at each other is something we've never seen before. Those guys shot when they were open, Steph completely recreated the definition of what being open is. To him, being 30 ft from the basket with an inch of daylight is open, he's the first to create that reality, for any other player in history, those shots would be bad shots the would take most players 3 pt % down to 25.
Mark Price was a bonafide NBA star. He was a part of Dream Team 2. It is a first degree crime that he is not in the NBA Hall of Fame!!
Longevity. It kept Westphal and Moncrief out til recently. Each would a been in LONG ago if not for injuries and shortened careers. Cuz both were elite.
Price was too for a short time.
Price got hurt...that y...underated
Zeke aged so well.
*Mark Price on NBA Live was Thanos.*
Somebody should show this video to Gordon Gund. He really put a lot of heart into building that Cavs team. Sad what happened with Ron Harper. Him, Price, Daugherty and Kerr could have bagged a chip in Jordan era. If only Harper wasn't traded for drug use allegations.
Respect to Isaiah Thomas
Mark price was before his time.
Chuck Daly - “Easy Isiah, just punch him in the gut like you always did, bad boy style.”
Notice how in those clips they were NOT handhcecking him from three point line , so imagine them tryna guard Curry while he dropping bombs from the logo
Thank you! I saw that era of basketball and they did not hand check all the time like people claim. They picked their spots and the 3 point line was not necessary to do that. Steph would’ve killed it especially when there was no zone defenses being played. It was a lot if 1 on 1.
Yeah hand checking doesn't work on great shooters and ball handlers. To hand check, your hands have to be down, and if your hands are down vs Steph, good night. Handchecking worked at a time when there were nowhere near as many good ball handlers. It never bothered the superstars, only the secondary players.
Listen to Steve Kerr (who played with Price) talk about Price -- then see what Steph has done with Kerr as his coach. Not taking ANYTHING away from Steph and his greatness, just think there were some Price lessons passed on by Kerr.
Chris Jackson Mahmoud Ralph from Denver was a great shooter
Mahmoud was a career 35% 3 pt shooter, and that was in an era where teams weren't in a rush to step out that far on defense. If you remove the 95-96 seasons when the league moved the line in to compensate for the lack of shooting skill in the league, Mahmoud would be a 31% career 3 pt shooter. His volume and percentage skyrocketed with the line moved in, and were less than mediocre with it at it's current distance. He was not a good shooter, he was a streak shooter.
Let us not forget about Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf aka Chris Jackson, the SNIPER.
I would've choose Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf as comparison for Curry. But I'm glad Mark Price gets some love. He is very underrated.
Mahmoud wasn't a good 3 pt shooter. without the league moving the line in for 2 seasons, his percentage was trash.
So, Curry is basically Mark Price on steroids
Mahoud Abdul Ruaf
Yes
Been saying Steph is a mixture of Mark Price and Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf.
I said this for so long that Steve Kerr uses curry the way he wished Wilkins used price. They had mark looking to get assist instead of scoring
Isiah greatest price steph greatest 3 guards all time
Zeke
when it comes to sharp shooter's, nothing come close to late great drazen petrovic.. i dont know why every shot he make is always dangerous. and he make the most of it
Nothing comes close to Drazen? Steph Curry by far better than Drazen, you can't even compare them. Drazen was a fantastic shooter. Curry the best in the history of this earth. Ask 100 GM's who they'd take first in a draft and they'd laugh.
Mahmoud abdul rauf was stephn curry in the 90s
Price is Currys uncle duh
What if Steph Curry play on that era?
he wouldn't be the Steph as we know him
Mark Price is really good and underrated. But the sad part there is that he will always be remembered for getting his cheeks clapped by Michael Jordan and the Bulls everytime they meet in both the regular season and playoffs.
U can't bleme him the bulls are really good
I love Michael Jordan, but he can't tell me not to like Isaiah Thomas
The difference between 90s guards and today's guard is shooting form. Today's guards can shoot w/ ease from half court and really anywhere because they start lower and their form is more like how (most) female players shoot. I like Price's style better than Curry, but Steph definitely changed the game the last 8 or 9 years. Every single young person I play street ball w/ or at the gym runs to the 3 point line and stays there the whole time on offense because they want to shoot the 3.
Today's players are better shooters because they're better shooters, not because they shoot like a female. That is the craziest take I've heard. Steph has beautiful form, and has the most compact, fluid, quick release the league has ever seen. Klay (before injury) is like a robot with how quick and consistent he is. KD sets high, Kawhi Sets high, Kyrie sets high, Luka, and the list goes on.... There's one player in the league who shoots like a girl and thats Jaren Jackson. Otherwise I don't understand the comment.
@@Johnny-xj5qu Steph has an unorthodox form, Klay has the perfect form, KD has great form, but most of these kids today have terrible form which means bad coaching in the early years. I've been around the game for over 30 years, it's garbage what I see out there. It's like Patrick Mahome throwing a football like a hook shot and let's it worked, all the other QB's follow.
Didn't dell curry play with price.. And Steve Kerr was his back up
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Thomas unguardable statements just proved that the new era Superstars would light the players of Thomas era up on the court. They wouldn't be able to guard this new eras top 20 players cus this eras stars can Shoot the 3 well, they can dribble and they all can finish at the rim in one way shape or form
PGs from Price's era didn't have the same green light that modern players do. They were expected to set up the offense and weren't encouraged to shoot as many 3s or iso for buckets, even if they physically could. We honestly don't know who from that era would've been able to keep pace with modern expectations because they weren't allowed to go as hard.
@@darkmatter7668 game was still, kinda, played inside/out in Price's era. Not so in Steph's.
I always taught that curry is the modern jerry west 🤔
I think Ray Allen is somewhat like West.
Curry a better ball handler. West could work his man one on one a bit better. I said a bit. Jerry better in D. Steph has unlimited range.
Unfortunately, both somewhat injury prone.
@@Amick44 Dribbling wasnt allowed back then 🤷♂️
I would say, that mr west would adapt.
They might have a comparison in their play style but looking up their stats says something completely different in terms of the points they average. Mark Price had high minutes on the court but looking at his points doesn’t even come close to Steph Curry point average.
To be fair he was playing in an era where PG weren’t looking to score nearly as much. Not saying it makes comparison valid but it does show that any notion that Curry couldn’t succeed in earlier eras is ridiculous
Pretty Sure that Price didn't have the Handles Steph has, wasn't Scoring 30 this often and wasn't Expected to do so regularly to carry his own team. Pretty sure he didn't have the gravity Steph has and therefore Wasn't as much double teamed As Curry is.
But, I know that comparing players, even from the same Era is Almost Impossible.
@@elliotloy7546 I don't give A Damn about him Lmao !
He's teeth is killing me
Cmon Isaiah you know exactly that Steph Curry plays exactly like Mahmoud Abdul Rauf not like Mark Price
I like the guy but he's no Curry or Price
drazen was better than both catch and shoot period and gave jordan some kinda PROB
Steph, Price and Isiah could dribble. Drazen catch n shoot. Ok 1 or 2 bounces.
Drazen wasn't better than Curry at any aspect of the game. It's laughable. Nice try though.
@@Johnny-xj5qu you don't know anything about basketball and it shows
@@Johnny-xj5qu he was better at rebounding passing and steals and less turnovers so explain how he isn't better??? curry is a better 3 point shooter drazen played harder opponents and tougher defense
@@ninobrown90 this is easy. I know the game inside and out, you don’t. Look at this:
Steph 24.3 ppp, Drazen 15
Steph 4 reb per game Drazen 2.3
Steph 6.5 assists per game, Drazen 2.4
Drazen was a great 3 pt shooter when he was open. Steph being the best shooter in league history has teams in a frenzy throwing double teams at him 35 ft from the basket. Curry has to put up far more difficult shots than Drazen who didn’t require a double team ever. Good luck trying to convince people a top 1000 all time player was better than a top 10 all time. Please learn the game
Mahmoud abdul rauf is better comparison for stephn curry
Too many bullshit advertisements
But curry has 2 mvps first unanimous mvp 3 rings 7 time Allstars 7 time all nba over 2900 threes made most games with 9 threes with 37 games warriors all time points leader
Yeah it's a bad comparison because Steph is on a completely different level, but Price was a very good marksmen, it's just Curry hits shots regularly those players weren't capable of even taking.
Not to be that guy but we need some context as well...I not going to hate on Mark Price. Oh no not at all. I watched him play his entire career! 50/40/90 doesn't mean as much when you're only taking 100 3's a season compared to 600....and Steph was 10 years old when Mark Price retired so I'm pretty sure his inspiration came from his Pops not Mr. Price...
He wasn’t allowed to take 600. Had he been allowed to I think he would have sank them ag a ridiculous clip. The organization gets him free. Mark didn’t have that.
Definitely not Curry🤷🏿♂️
I doubt Steph watches Price...so nah.
Price was GSW assistant in 2010 so price gave curry a lesson. The rest is history
@@s.c.a.1128 Curry already a great shooter before he went to the league. Irrelevant.
@@shinobu37 yet, he still improved.
Did you just put Steph Curry in the same sentence as Mark Price? Unsubscribing now... oh wait I'm not subscribed.
Mark Price was a great player, but not remotely close to Steph Curry. Not even remotely.
Better than chicken curry
Steph wouldn't even be the hype he is if he played when mark did
@@flytii lol u tripping