I love the combination of the dog fight and the subsequent Tacview analysis. Your explanations make it easy to understand what is actually happening and why. Great fight for Antos and you!
If modelled F/A-18C configuration is from year 2005 i wonder why it even have AIM-7. Don't think that US used AIM-7 at that time. And Hornet was anyway ducked down because it has no TWS yet implemented. Anyway, even ducked down Hornet gonna nail that frenchie as its still much better AC with better weapons.
Lol I have a shortcut for 2 and 5, but usually its 5 indeed. I need to learn how to edit the countermeasures permanently, it also bothers me on the Hog as I edit before every flight.
I cant stand it but I have to sell my home before I can get xplane 11 and dcsworld, its driving me crazy waiting but its life in the fast lane lol...so I will continut watching some of your vids till I can personally get involved lol....@@GrowlingSidewinder
Very educational. I still fly Mirage on your server against Fox3’s. My learning curve on defensive maneuvering has gone up like never before. I’m not up yet in closing the gap with heaters cause I lose my opponent’s position dodging his Fox3’s. One day I’ll get there. Thank You for sharing.
Congratulation for both of you. Mirage pilot over-reacted twice to your launches (60km and 40km). No need to make all these manœuvres at these ranges. He lost the SA down in mountains. But 1 Vs 1 in Fox 1 Vs Fox 3 set up is really hard.
Jo Jo Against a radar guided missile, one should do a beam maneuver by turning perpendicular to the attacking jet, wait until the missile is closing and turn back into the fight so the missile overshoots. By going on the beam, it limits the Doppler shift and breaks the radar lock.
absolutely, But I was extremely impressed with his ability to even out those odds. especially when he started the engagement with the odds extremely in my favor. I might have killed him but he was deff the better pilot here.
to be honest , i keep on watching ur debreifing and now , i understood what's was going on exactly ..;wonderful, really amazing , i've never seen somth like this before , probably most of the real jet's pilot are impressed also, step by step you described eveyth....good job and great thks for all devs and trackir's or VR helmet manufacturer making our dream coming true
I love your videos. I got all excited when I saw you were flying a Marine bird, OORAH! Come to find out as of November 2017 that squadron, VMFA-122 is now flying F-35's. Still, OORAH!
Super crazy. According to Wikipedia the upgraded version or AIM-120D has a classified range, but many have speculated it to be around 160km. What a mind blowing advantage. Almost triple your initial engagement length. You could have waited until then to switch on the radar and lock him up and gun him down. Or, lock him up from super far. Also, don’t take the profile picture seriously.
Why were you throwing out so much flares during the early BVR fase? From your RWR you knew the opponent was not a Russian plane (with R-27T or ET missiles) and that he was too far for a AIM-9 shot.
You got any tips on keeping situational awareness in a fight with multiple targets? I'm definetely not good enough to be playing multiplayer but even in the FC3 campaigns against AI I have troubles staying on top of the situation once the first stage of the fight is over. That is I get the enemy groups on my radar, lock some up, fire when I'm close enough, then go defensive when they fire at me and then once we merge I just lose it completely. I'm all over the place frantically searching with radar, with my eyes but it usually comes down to me getting shot down by a heatseeker that I didn't spot because I didn't know where the enemy plane was.
if you merge, don't take ur eyes off the target, use ur rwr to get general cues on which direction to look, forget ur radar once ur that close, which to ACM modes. Ideally don't merge with more than 1 hostile target. unless ur aircraft is vastly superior you'll probably die.
Same here. I've been trying to beat a 2v1 against Mig-21's in my F18. I'll take the first out but I lose the 2nd. Most cases I'm taken out by an R-60 within a short couple of minutes trying to find him again. I've been studying Growling's videos to find a way to come out on top. And this is even having the AI Mig-21's as "Average". LOL
thanks for the video !! F 18 with 10 missiles (fox 1-2 and 3) VS a Mirage with 4 missiles (Fox 1 and 2, and not the best one on DCS), the only chance for the Mirage is to hide in mountains, and to get the Merge. Then, he has a chance, because less heavy and better agility. A second round would be interesting.
10:00 If he hasn't been maneuvering a lot, he can be legitimately worried that he's seeing a pitbull that's had a leisurely cruise to close proximity, and would thus have enough energy to follow him down a mostly straight dive. 10:30 If it's on a long program, it'll keep doing this even after reaching cover. The whole thing could come down to him having his dispensers on auto. If so, I suspect the track file would show this. 13:43 You could already have a maddog near his position at this point. That would eliminate the race to fire first - where altitude, and perhaps also raw missile speed, gave you a handicap. Even if he would be first though, it would be a mutual kill.
he knows hes fighting a hornet, thats in early access and has no TWS mode. therefore he will get a missile launch indication the second I fire cuz I only have STT.
@@GrowlingSidewinder Except for aim7 guidance, it does not make sense to me that the STT emission pattern changes upon launching a missile. So unless somebody in the know can confirm it does irl, I'd consider it a bug. Which could get fixed, and we already know ED is not always accurate in their changelogs.
That was way closer than I thought, great video! Could you do more of these online fights? The thing I'd want to see most is a fight between two equal aircraft, possibly ones which don't have FOX-3 missiles. Can you make that happen?
If I could change 1 thing about the fight, it would be to start at a higher altitude to be able to look down into the mountains and also have gravity help my amraams increasing their range.
In February 27 2019 Pakistan also shot down a Mig 21 bison and a mirage 2000 or probably Su-30 with same AIM-120 c, we are not sure about the second aircraft as it was shot down in enemy territory, while mig 21 crashed inside Pakistan. i had a question that can AWACS assist the fighter jet in locking and guiding the AIM-120 s ? Because we fired the AIm 120s from Jf-17 thunders not F-16s, so Jf-17. Can you shed some light on this.
Hi Buddy ! I see you got Lucky whit this Pilot in Mirage, he was having low-level experience in M 2000-C, but if was me it would be different store...… lol. Video was great Thanks.
Mirage guy here, honestly, Fox-1 vs Fox-3 is an interesting fight. I've beaten Hornets before, but generally it's because I lure them into weak positions and employ defensive tactics before we go sub 20 miles (get lower and fall back into mountains; spoof the radar and give me more space to maneuver my aircraft). After the Hornet follows, like they often do, send a long 530 to push them defensive. If they want to lose the 530, they have to dive into the mountains, therefor forcing them to lose the radar advantage. After that, I just have to close the distance, get to the merge, and come out on top. Overall great fight on both parts. Edit: This is my typical defensive to offensive tactic when engaged with Fox 3 aircraft.
Hi, I’m new to the channel and looking at getting involved in this platform. Could you give any advice on the PC setup you run to allow this game to look and run as awesome as it does?? Cheers 👍🏻👍🏻
bootneck401664 hey buddy awesome to hear you're taking an interest. I made a set up video recently make check that out. I got my computer specs in that video just keep in mind I got an overkill computer for DCS so I run everything on max. Obvs that depends on the kind of money ur looking to throw at a computer.
Growling Sidewinder hi mate, thanks for the reply 👍🏻 I’ll check out that video. I’ve got about £5000 to shift so I’m looking for something juicy 😂👍🏻 thanks man!
its both, its originally for the a10 its called radio chatter mod, and it replaces the static audio u hear over the squelch comms, in this video its edited in.
I use the mirage, I haven't found a way to change the counter measures programming, maybe i'm just not looking enough, the default mode I think is 2-5 chaff and 2 flares per one push of the button
This is a great video! I have a few questions. Was the comm chatter in game or added, and if you added it, where did you get it from? And secondly, at about 4:30 you active the bore sight circle on your HUD. I forgot how to do this on my hornet, and I don't remember what it's called in the settings menu. Can you tell me what it's called so I can remap it?
@@Telsion would you mind sharing how you've edited in? I would love this for some of my missions or even a cinematic video or 2 I'm thinking about making.
Why no post mortem? Great info leading up to the big question that never got answered: What should you have done better, than be just 1 sec faster on the draw?
should have engaged from higher altitude. then I could have seen him from farther away behind the mountain he peaked out of. I could have fired before he even got in range.
good fight!, can you do a merge pvp fight F/A18C vs SU27 with AIM 9X's vs R73's? I'm wondering if there's is finally something that can compete with those flankers and their heat seekers :)
I would have gone inverted and down towards the ground for terrain masking as the mirage shot his missiles. It's not very likely for him to dodge that amraam, but if he did, you would need to find some cover. Good fight tho, nice seeing both sides of the fight.
Great video! I didn't notice you fire off any countermeasures at the Mirage's missiles. Did you? Or, were you just expecting your AMRAAM to hit him before his missiles hit you?
its a chance thing, I think clustering them like that actually makes them more effective but I dont have any evidence of that. but yes ur right I dropped chaff against his super530s
Thanks again for the great content. I just started getting into DCS with the F/A-18C. It took me forever to figure out how to fire an AMRAAM until I watched your tutorials. Also, do you have a recommendation on which VR headset to go with?
That is a missile comparision. Doesn't matter if it is a Eurofighter, F-15, F-18, F-16, F-35... the AMRAAM, without another competing Fox-3 (or jamming pod), will win. Good video.
Fabio in real situations there is no one against one fight. The aircraft with the shorter range missile may break sideways long before the aircraft with the long-range missiles comes in firing range and playing defensive may give the oportunity to his wingman to attack the enemy fighter. Tight turning and acceleration in the 3-to-9 direction as to the enemy and smart tailored tactics especially when the aircraft with the short-range missile have numerical advantage may work surprisingly against the expectation of the victory of the long-range opponent.
@@petar.banovac I don't see how you got that from the video, obviously tactics matter a lot, it's just that advanced BVR tech is very dominant... unless you have stealth!
got a question: isnt he a big threat at the end ? he was in panic but what if hes more experienced and in control like you was. still doing same things but doing flares etc later
FabulaM24 [GER] ya he did really well to even the odds he was a big threat at the end for sure. I think a lot of people think I uploaded this to show the fight from my perspective but in reality I wanted to show how he managed to even the odds. And how he manipulated the situation to get 50/50 odds.
@@GrowlingSidewinder then continue flying the devils advocate, found your channel today and seems like im not the only one who like one vs one much. thank you for your content. edit: also enjoyed your tactical talkings with maxime and the side infos like foxtwo attack and bla..
@@realmcafee awesome welcome to the channel, and thanks for the feedback, I plan on doing many more PvP fights like this in the future. I think you'll find on this channel I like to really work with the feedback of the subscribers so if you see something you like or you dont like let me know it'll help make the channel better. thanks again and welcome to the channel.
Fox 3 vs Fox 1, shame on it .. ! With equivalents weapons, maybe the fight would have ended quite differently .. :) Nice video instead, and nice defense from M2K pilot :)
Wonderfull video, as usual, one question: as we saw in one of your last videos: you can give a huge range to the aamram going at 50k feet. Why did you choose to stay low this time fighting the mirage? Wouldn't it be easier if you were very high for the range and also to make it harder for the mirage to hide in the mountains? Thanks!
Hi. I am new to this community and I want to ask wich plane is the best to start. Am really interested in this sim and jets :D. Nice video btw. (Sorry for my english, l speak spanish).
hi there, I recoomend anything flaming cliffs if youre just starting out, f15, mig29, su27 or su33. these are a more simplified arcade like aircraft in terms of control and its a great place to start in DCS.
That's nice. I've still got an old rig with 1GB VRAM, so I have to stick to 1.5.6. The 2.5 either looks awfull with cockpit texture mess, or has huge 5-10 second freezes when anything -- and I mean literally _anything_ -- happens.
That's true. For example, when you make an attack run and come in range (~2km perhaps?), the game can freeze to the point you forget what you were doing. Or it can freeze when you're near a city, or just looking around. So it'll be 1.5 for me for quite some time I reckon.
More one on one's with the Mirage. Such a sexy plane. Edit to add, where are these radio chatters coming from? Are you guys adding it into your videos when editing?
I've been watching your videos for a while. I noticed you constantly have the advantage. Fox 3s, in the F14 video. Put yourself at a disadvantage, use fox 1s, aim9ms, etc. And you'll earn my sub.
@@GrowlingSidewinder meant fox 3's, I have no clue why I said fox 4. In any case - understandable. Just not entertaining enough for my tastes. Good videos though.
Great video demonstrating “Know thy enemy”. You knew what he was flying (eg. missiles and their engagement envelopes) and the fact that he would most likely ‘honour the threat’ (eg. firing an Amraam beyond its effective kill range). You were the cat to his very small mouse 😉
Another great video GS, but i want you to drop your AMRAAMs for M model Sparrows (and your AIM-9Xs for Ls...) in the next one. Also the loadout of 10 (!) AMRAAMs is an overkill and not realistic in any case. I would have never agreed to fly against you knowing that you carry half the carrier's arsenal of active AAMs. Kudos to Antos who not only did agree but almost splash you in the process :) . But to be honest, If Antos did not have the terrain masking option, this video would be maybe 4 minutes long. Try to setup more even engagements that will increase the viewers interest. For the next fight i suggest both flying over sea or land and carry similar armament, like 2 SARH (or 4 in the case of the Hornet, which is realistic), a drop tank and 2 heat seekers. I would like to see pilot vs pilot, not weapon vs weapon, if you know what I am saying :). Sierra Hotel. PS: I have no clue if DCS allows you to select anything else than AIM-120s and AIM-9Xs for your Hornet.
Valid points regarding the loadout, but on the flipside, GS was naked over the water vs. OPFOR being able to hide with terrain. Great flying by both; that Antos was able to get it to 50/50 at the end was impressive. Personally, I say give each pilot 2x Fox2 and guns and have at.
As a huge fan of the F/A-18 and it being pretty much the only plane I fly now in DCS, the Mirage 2000 looks amazing, and I hope to get it eventually. But I wanna fly my F-14 I paid $80 for before I buy any more modules lol! Good kill, devil dog!
Hi, I am am ATC at Spain. I am not familiarized with DCS, I am afraid. Comms are so realistic, man!!!! Are them like that in the game? Is the ground radar guidance accurate?
Hope you guys like the video, Thanks again to Antos for offering up his mirage for this video.
You need to make a lot more PVP Videos! AI is nice but a Person is something else, awesome!
Thats the plan brother, theyre sometimes hard to set up but I'm going to try to make them priority content. and make a lot more pvp videos.
just edited in for realism.
would be interesting to see a gun fight between those two type jets.
Why the mirage is not equipped with mica missiles?
"My strategy as usual when flying american planes is to spaamram till I win"
You fired 3 AMRAAMs before he could even get in range. Great review of a 6 ft tall adult beating up a 4ft 9 in kid in boxing.
lmao. ya basically true
I love the combination of the dog fight and the subsequent Tacview analysis. Your explanations make it easy to understand what is actually happening and why. Great fight for Antos and you!
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it.
Very expensive fight
AIM-7 instead of AIM-120 would have been a more fair fight.
Maybe it wasn't fair but it was a lot of fun :)
Haha yaaa Ur not wrong lol but id rather come home than fight fair.
But your PC is at home....
If modelled F/A-18C configuration is from year 2005 i wonder why it even have AIM-7. Don't think that US used AIM-7 at that time.
And Hornet was anyway ducked down because it has no TWS yet implemented.
Anyway, even ducked down Hornet gonna nail that frenchie as its still much better AC with better weapons.
A french Mirage pilot says they had order to don't engage combat alone against an aircraft if it equipped of fox 3.
antos: the fastest fox 2 in the West
growling sidewinder: *_YOU FOOL_*
the fastest fox 3 in the West
It’s high noon
My first time watching one of your videos and 5min in it was an easy subscribe. Great explanations of what happened and good teaching as well!
hi and thank you very much, welcome to the channel.
Mirage pilots like dropping both chaff and flares because everyone just uses countermeasure programm 5 ;)
yaaa I did it too, but shouldnt lol
Lol I have a shortcut for 2 and 5, but usually its 5 indeed. I need to learn how to edit the countermeasures permanently, it also bothers me on the Hog as I edit before every flight.
It's a waste of flares sadly. At that range you know it's only a radar guided missile.
I seem to like the higher number programs that is a decent amount of countermeasure really quickly, but of only 1 type
1 and was it 4 for me
fck the panic button
Semi active potato missiles.
GungHo anime avatar coming in with the wisdom. 2000-5 WHEN? I want MICAs.
Great video. I really enjoy the tac view helps me understand the strategies better. Thanks for sharing!
glad u enjoyed it
Mirage pilot: "if you think, you are dead".....😍
I love the anylitical break down at the end...dog fights are about knowing your aircraft, weapons and your opponents as well. Well done.👍👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻☕️
thank you glad you enjoyed it
I cant stand it but I have to sell my home before I can get xplane 11 and dcsworld, its driving me crazy waiting but its life in the fast lane lol...so I will continut watching some of your vids till I can personally get involved lol....@@GrowlingSidewinder
Rick Jones thank u I'll try not to disappoint haha
Very educational. I still fly Mirage on your server against Fox3’s. My learning curve on defensive maneuvering has gone up like never before. I’m not up yet in closing the gap with heaters cause I lose my opponent’s position dodging his Fox3’s. One day I’ll get there. Thank You for sharing.
Excellent duel, you demonstrated that knowing is half the battle
G I Joeeeeeeee!!!!
What an amazing video. I’ve obviously only just seen this and is now one of my favourite videos on you tube. Thank you for the upload this is awesome
my pleasure thanks for watching, glad u enjoyed it.
Growling Sidewinder I enjoyed this so so much. Subbed to your account 👍
thanks man, welcome to the channel
Great flying once again... man I enjoy these vids.
Congratulation for both of you.
Mirage pilot over-reacted twice to your launches (60km and 40km). No need to make all these manœuvres at these ranges. He lost the SA down in mountains.
But 1 Vs 1 in Fox 1 Vs Fox 3 set up is really hard.
Jo Jo
Against a radar guided missile, one should do a beam maneuver by turning perpendicular to the attacking jet, wait until the missile is closing and turn back into the fight so the missile overshoots. By going on the beam, it limits the Doppler shift and breaks the radar lock.
Great fight! Its amazing how close it was in the end
Holy crap. I've been here since you started and now you're getting 40k+ views! Congrats man
thanks man, I appreciate ur support through the channels growth, couldn't have done it without dudes like you
MICA's instead of the Supers AAMs and that 50-50 leveling would'v payed lovely results for Antos, great vid and insight (as always) from you matey.
Thanks Oscar glad u liked it mate.
Great seeing 'both tracks' :) Thanks guys!
great video love these commentaries!.... i want to play so bad but i feel like a need a day or two vacation to focus on a plane :)
The odds of wining against 10 fox3 and with greater range are really low.
absolutely, But I was extremely impressed with his ability to even out those odds. especially when he started the engagement with the odds extremely in my favor. I might have killed him but he was deff the better pilot here.
Man that was some awesome flying brother, by your opponent too for him to even the odds he did get close! 👍🏽 keep up the awesome work.
thanks man, and ya he did really well. very impressive by him.
Finally some Pvp footage. Thx dude
gonna be trying for a lot more man
to be honest , i keep on watching ur debreifing and now , i understood what's was going on exactly ..;wonderful, really amazing , i've never seen somth like this before , probably most of the real jet's pilot are impressed also, step by step you described eveyth....good job and great thks for all devs and trackir's or VR helmet manufacturer making our dream coming true
If a notification pops, one must watch😌
u the man
Love your vids. How are you getting the display on top right of your screen showing speed, brg alt, etc?
From the last video that I saw that you did of the turn on Measure.. when I saw him do it.. I said his Dead. Nice video keep them coming
correct me if im wrong but chaff is a countermeasure to radar guided missiles?
Correct
I love your videos. I got all excited when I saw you were flying a Marine bird, OORAH! Come to find out as of November 2017 that squadron, VMFA-122 is now flying F-35's. Still, OORAH!
You got me as a sub mate 👍 been watching alot of your vids, good com's, good video, and informative
I appreciate that thank you. and welcome to the channel.
Super crazy. According to Wikipedia the upgraded version or AIM-120D has a classified range, but many have speculated it to be around 160km. What a mind blowing advantage. Almost triple your initial engagement length. You could have waited until then to switch on the radar and lock him up and gun him down. Or, lock him up from super far. Also, don’t take the profile picture seriously.
Great video! I hope we gonna do some more PvPs later on. :)
Why were you throwing out so much flares during the early BVR fase? From your RWR you knew the opponent was not a Russian plane (with R-27T or ET missiles) and that he was too far for a AIM-9 shot.
@@cyrus6250 I just started to panic, I play this game for only 2 weeks now ;)
Yeah, that's me haha
good performance mate, keep improving
@@YTaccNo3 Thanks :)
You got any tips on keeping situational awareness in a fight with multiple targets? I'm definetely not good enough to be playing multiplayer but even in the FC3 campaigns against AI I have troubles staying on top of the situation once the first stage of the fight is over. That is I get the enemy groups on my radar, lock some up, fire when I'm close enough, then go defensive when they fire at me and then once we merge I just lose it completely. I'm all over the place frantically searching with radar, with my eyes but it usually comes down to me getting shot down by a heatseeker that I didn't spot because I didn't know where the enemy plane was.
if you merge, don't take ur eyes off the target, use ur rwr to get general cues on which direction to look, forget ur radar once ur that close, which to ACM modes. Ideally don't merge with more than 1 hostile target. unless ur aircraft is vastly superior you'll probably die.
Same here. I've been trying to beat a 2v1 against Mig-21's in my F18. I'll take the first out but I lose the 2nd. Most cases I'm taken out by an R-60 within a short couple of minutes trying to find him again. I've been studying Growling's videos to find a way to come out on top. And this is even having the AI Mig-21's as "Average". LOL
if you don't have situational awareness on him, pop a few random flares from time to time, assume hes firing on you if you can't see him.
if he's not behind u popping those flares randomly he will be very soon
thanks for the video !!
F 18 with 10 missiles (fox 1-2 and 3) VS a Mirage with 4 missiles (Fox 1 and 2, and not the best one on DCS), the only chance for the Mirage is to hide in mountains, and to get the Merge. Then, he has a chance, because less heavy and better agility. A second round would be interesting.
10:00 If he hasn't been maneuvering a lot, he can be legitimately worried that he's seeing a pitbull that's had a leisurely cruise to close proximity, and would thus have enough energy to follow him down a mostly straight dive. 10:30 If it's on a long program, it'll keep doing this even after reaching cover. The whole thing could come down to him having his dispensers on auto. If so, I suspect the track file would show this. 13:43 You could already have a maddog near his position at this point. That would eliminate the race to fire first - where altitude, and perhaps also raw missile speed, gave you a handicap. Even if he would be first though, it would be a mutual kill.
he knows hes fighting a hornet, thats in early access and has no TWS mode. therefore he will get a missile launch indication the second I fire cuz I only have STT.
therefore he should be able to deduce that its not a pitbull amraam.
@@GrowlingSidewinder Except for aim7 guidance, it does not make sense to me that the STT emission pattern changes upon launching a missile. So unless somebody in the know can confirm it does irl, I'd consider it a bug. Which could get fixed, and we already know ED is not always accurate in their changelogs.
That was way closer than I thought, great video!
Could you do more of these online fights? The thing I'd want to see most is a fight between two equal aircraft, possibly ones which don't have FOX-3 missiles.
Can you make that happen?
I can certainly try.
Trying is all what is needed. Thanks!
@@GrowlingSidewinder load up an F-18 with sparrows, and take on that mirage. The F-18 is older than the AMRAM.
Wonder what would have changed if the Mirage was equipped with MICA missiles? I have heard some do carry that missile.
That was pretty clutch. LOVE the break down.
Great break down of the fight. What could you have done different to not end up in that shootout at the end?
If I could change 1 thing about the fight, it would be to start at a higher altitude to be able to look down into the mountains and also have gravity help my amraams increasing their range.
In February 27 2019 Pakistan also shot down a Mig 21 bison and a mirage 2000 or probably Su-30 with same AIM-120 c, we are not sure about the second aircraft as it was shot down in enemy territory, while mig 21 crashed inside Pakistan. i had a question that can AWACS assist the fighter jet in locking and guiding the AIM-120 s ? Because we fired the AIm 120s from Jf-17 thunders not F-16s, so Jf-17. Can you shed some light on this.
Hi Buddy ! I see you got Lucky whit this Pilot in Mirage, he was having low-level experience in M 2000-C, but if was me it would be different store...… lol. Video was great Thanks.
hah yes wesley I got lucky, thanks buddy, glad u enjoyed the video
Liked, subbed, thanks! You helped a rookie out!
Sand Ville hey man thanks and welcome to the channel
Mirage guy here, honestly, Fox-1 vs Fox-3 is an interesting fight. I've beaten Hornets before, but generally it's because I lure them into weak positions and employ defensive tactics before we go sub 20 miles (get lower and fall back into mountains; spoof the radar and give me more space to maneuver my aircraft). After the Hornet follows, like they often do, send a long 530 to push them defensive. If they want to lose the 530, they have to dive into the mountains, therefor forcing them to lose the radar advantage. After that, I just have to close the distance, get to the merge, and come out on top.
Overall great fight on both parts.
Edit: This is my typical defensive to offensive tactic when engaged with Fox 3 aircraft.
Does this game work well with mouse/keyboard or console controllers? I've been thinking of getting HOTAS but until then I only have those.
deff not console, hotas highly recommended.
Hi, I’m new to the channel and looking at getting involved in this platform. Could you give any advice on the PC setup you run to allow this game to look and run as awesome as it does?? Cheers 👍🏻👍🏻
bootneck401664 hey buddy awesome to hear you're taking an interest. I made a set up video recently make check that out. I got my computer specs in that video just keep in mind I got an overkill computer for DCS so I run everything on max. Obvs that depends on the kind of money ur looking to throw at a computer.
Growling Sidewinder hi mate, thanks for the reply 👍🏻 I’ll check out that video. I’ve got about £5000 to shift so I’m looking for something juicy 😂👍🏻 thanks man!
bootneck401664 my pleasure buddy don't blow all that cash on a computer tho you'll need a trackir and a HOTAS of some kind.
is that radio traffic a soundmod or edited afterwards to that video for more "fidelity"?
its both, its originally for the a10 its called radio chatter mod, and it replaces the static audio u hear over the squelch comms, in this video its edited in.
I use the mirage, I haven't found a way to change the counter measures programming, maybe i'm just not looking enough, the default mode I think is 2-5 chaff and 2 flares per one push of the button
Sound of the flyby sounds just like a real jet so cool
Yes, but all that flare dropping looked really cool for the purposes of the video 😄
This is a great video! I have a few questions. Was the comm chatter in game or added, and if you added it, where did you get it from? And secondly, at about 4:30 you active the bore sight circle on your HUD. I forgot how to do this on my hornet, and I don't remember what it's called in the settings menu. Can you tell me what it's called so I can remap it?
Copying from GS, regarding the comm chatter: its an a10 mod, im editing into hornet for realism. www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/111154/
"Sensor switch up" (OTOH) while in A/A mode enables the boresight acm radar mode. Is that what you wanted to know?
@@Telsion would you mind sharing how you've edited in? I would love this for some of my missions or even a cinematic video or 2 I'm thinking about making.
@@mariushusejacobsen3221 YES! Thank you! I couldn't for the life of me remember what it was called. Thanks so much!
@spirit117 I haven't edited it in, I don't have DCS. I merely copied what I saw Growling Sidewinder say in another comment
Why no post mortem? Great info leading up to the big question that never got answered: What should you have done better, than be just 1 sec faster on the draw?
should have engaged from higher altitude. then I could have seen him from farther away behind the mountain he peaked out of. I could have fired before he even got in range.
good fight!, can you do a merge pvp fight F/A18C vs SU27 with AIM 9X's vs R73's? I'm wondering if there's is finally something that can compete with those flankers and their heat seekers :)
I will certainly look into it
doesn't drop bags and flaring for radar guided?
still put up a good fight even if he isn't proficient
yes he did
whats shown here he is not
how did you get the radio chatter in the background?
Love the videos... Just curious what your favorite fighter is to use? I've seen you using a wide variety, but you must have a favorite
Eric Spiecker I absolutely love the f14 followed closely by the hornet, also thanks very much glad u enjoy the videos
Love your debriefs
thank you very much
Love the m2000
I would have gone inverted and down towards the ground for terrain masking as the mirage shot his missiles. It's not very likely for him to dodge that amraam, but if he did, you would need to find some cover. Good fight tho, nice seeing both sides of the fight.
in hindsight thats what I should have done.
Great video! I didn't notice you fire off any countermeasures at the Mirage's missiles. Did you? Or, were you just expecting your AMRAAM to hit him before his missiles hit you?
I think I see your chaff in the tacview, but not sure. It appears you were so close that they were ineffective.
its a chance thing, I think clustering them like that actually makes them more effective but I dont have any evidence of that. but yes ur right I dropped chaff against his super530s
Thanks again for the great content. I just started getting into DCS with the F/A-18C. It took me forever to figure out how to fire an AMRAAM until I watched your tutorials. Also, do you have a recommendation on which VR headset to go with?
Loved the PvP
Good kill! And excellent tactics. I see why the Aim-120 is favored by pilots. You should do this more often.
Im hoping to bring a lot more content like this to the channel
What is that view, which starts from 7:17, is that available in DCS by default or a mod?
Iivari Saarenharju that's a program called tacview
@@GrowlingSidewinder Thanks! I have to get that. Looks great!
That is a missile comparision. Doesn't matter if it is a Eurofighter, F-15, F-18, F-16, F-35... the AMRAAM, without another competing Fox-3 (or jamming pod), will win. Good video.
And that's exactly how it is in reality. The last time when pilots mattered was perhaps the Yom-Kippur war. After that, missiles did most of the work.
Fabio in real situations there is no one against one fight. The aircraft with the shorter range missile may break sideways long before the aircraft with the long-range missiles comes in firing range and playing defensive may give the oportunity to his wingman to attack the enemy fighter. Tight turning and acceleration in the 3-to-9 direction as to the enemy and smart tailored tactics especially when the aircraft with the short-range missile have numerical advantage may work surprisingly against the expectation of the victory of the long-range opponent.
@@petar.banovac I don't see how you got that from the video, obviously tactics matter a lot, it's just that advanced BVR tech is very dominant... unless you have stealth!
Dig the recap! New sub!!
welcome to the channel
Great tutorial. Would it have helped both pilots to drop long range tanks ? Or was this forgotten in the heat of battle !!
I know I forget cuz I was focusing on making sure I put him defensive everytime he popped his head up. yes you should always drop tanks.
got a question: isnt he a big threat at the end ? he was in panic but what if hes more experienced and in control like you was. still doing same things but doing flares etc later
FabulaM24 [GER] ya he did really well to even the odds he was a big threat at the end for sure. I think a lot of people think I uploaded this to show the fight from my perspective but in reality I wanted to show how he managed to even the odds. And how he manipulated the situation to get 50/50 odds.
@@GrowlingSidewinder then continue flying the devils advocate, found your channel today and seems like im not the only one who like one vs one much. thank you for your content. edit: also enjoyed your tactical talkings with maxime and the side infos like foxtwo attack and bla..
@@realmcafee awesome welcome to the channel, and thanks for the feedback, I plan on doing many more PvP fights like this in the future. I think you'll find on this channel I like to really work with the feedback of the subscribers so if you see something you like or you dont like let me know it'll help make the channel better. thanks again and welcome to the channel.
Fox 3 vs Fox 1, shame on it .. ! With equivalents weapons, maybe the fight would have ended quite differently .. :) Nice video instead, and nice defense from M2K pilot :)
very impressive and informative Video, thanks for sharing
Great Channel. How about a fight with Panavia Tornados?
thanks so much, unfortunately they don't exist in DCS. but there is a mod for it...i might be able to I dont know. no promises.
Wonderfull video, as usual, one question: as we saw in one of your last videos: you can give a huge range to the aamram going at 50k feet. Why did you choose to stay low this time fighting the mirage? Wouldn't it be easier if you were very high for the range and also to make it harder for the mirage to hide in the mountains? Thanks!
How do you get those nice looking camera views?
Hi. I am new to this community and I want to ask wich plane is the best to start. Am really interested in this sim and jets :D. Nice video btw. (Sorry for my english, l speak spanish).
hi there, I recoomend anything flaming cliffs if youre just starting out, f15, mig29, su27 or su33. these are a more simplified arcade like aircraft in terms of control and its a great place to start in DCS.
Thanks!!
6:59 what is that 'X' which appears on both HUD and MFD ?
That typically signifies that you are too low do release a weapon.
He was too close to the target for an amraam
Is it best to have a dedicated joystick for this type of game and if so what one would you recommend thanks great video.....
yes it is, I personally use the thrustmaster 16000M
@@GrowlingSidewinder okay thanks very much
Brian Fairlamb ur very welcome
Which GPU do you have? It's nice!
Nice video, but what's with the stuttering on the Mirage fly-by's?
Shade the smoke of the mig engines was too much for my computer lol. I've since upgraded my PC tho and don't have that issue anymore
That's nice. I've still got an old rig with 1GB VRAM, so I have to stick to 1.5.6. The 2.5 either looks awfull with cockpit texture mess, or has huge 5-10 second freezes when anything -- and I mean literally _anything_ -- happens.
Shade lol wow really I imagine its pretty unplayable at that point.
That's true. For example, when you make an attack run and come in range (~2km perhaps?), the game can freeze to the point you forget what you were doing. Or it can freeze when you're near a city, or just looking around. So it'll be 1.5 for me for quite some time I reckon.
Btw why you dont use AMRAAMS in inertial mode so he will be awared only oce AMRAAM swap in own radar?
Hornet doesnt have TWS and can only fire in STT, so theres no way for me to hide the launch indication until hornet is updated with TWS
What is that thing that sticks out of the mirage 2000's nose?
More one on one's with the Mirage. Such a sexy plane.
Edit to add, where are these radio chatters coming from? Are you guys adding it into your videos when editing?
its an a10 mod, im editing into hornet for realism. www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/111154/
@@GrowlingSidewinder Thanks for the link. I don't play, just enjoy watching your vids.
I've been watching your videos for a while. I noticed you constantly have the advantage. Fox 3s, in the F14 video.
Put yourself at a disadvantage, use fox 1s, aim9ms, etc.
And you'll earn my sub.
i duno what fox4s are. I like to play with fox3s thats my style. sorry.
@@GrowlingSidewinder meant fox 3's, I have no clue why I said fox 4.
In any case - understandable. Just not entertaining enough for my tastes. Good videos though.
Great video demonstrating “Know thy enemy”. You knew what he was flying (eg. missiles and their engagement envelopes) and the fact that he would most likely ‘honour the threat’ (eg. firing an Amraam beyond its effective kill range). You were the cat to his very small mouse 😉
What audio track are you using???
Enjoyed the video but change up the Amraams for Sparrows next time. Bit more skill involved instead of spamram :)
Great video
I don't have this sim, but isn't Mirage 2000 supposed to have MICA active radar homing missile?
thats a different model of the mirage, I dont remember what that variant is called.
When will the add the superhornet to this sim my sister is working on those in the navy right now
Another great video GS, but i want you to drop your AMRAAMs for M model Sparrows (and your AIM-9Xs for Ls...) in the next one. Also the loadout of 10 (!) AMRAAMs is an overkill and not realistic in any case. I would have never agreed to fly against you knowing that you carry half the carrier's arsenal of active AAMs. Kudos to Antos who not only did agree but almost splash you in the process :) . But to be honest, If Antos did not have the terrain masking option, this video would be maybe 4 minutes long. Try to setup more even engagements that will increase the viewers interest. For the next fight i suggest both flying over sea or land and carry similar armament, like 2 SARH (or 4 in the case of the Hornet, which is realistic), a drop tank and 2 heat seekers. I would like to see pilot vs pilot, not weapon vs weapon, if you know what I am saying :). Sierra Hotel.
PS: I have no clue if DCS allows you to select anything else than AIM-120s and AIM-9Xs for your Hornet.
ahaha ok thats fair, i'll reduce the amraam load, and i'll drop aim9x
Valid points regarding the loadout, but on the flipside, GS was naked over the water vs. OPFOR being able to hide with terrain. Great flying by both; that Antos was able to get it to 50/50 at the end was impressive. Personally, I say give each pilot 2x Fox2 and guns and have at.
@ΑegeanPhantom
It would be sinful to not use the blessings God has given you.
Fantastic analysis/breakdown at the end. Where’s the Viper? 👍🏾
What about m 2000-5 using MICA missiles? wouldn't it be more fair??
As a huge fan of the F/A-18 and it being pretty much the only plane I fly now in DCS, the Mirage 2000 looks amazing, and I hope to get it eventually.
But I wanna fly my F-14 I paid $80 for before I buy any more modules lol!
Good kill, devil dog!
Hi, I am am ATC at Spain. I am not familiarized with DCS, I am afraid.
Comms are so realistic, man!!!!
Are them like that in the game? Is the ground radar guidance accurate?
Love it dude
thanks brother
If Hornet had been killed first, would AMRAAM hit?
Getting a new pc will a 3070 be good for this game?
outstanding join the team....
amazing he actually managed to launch two matras and put you into danger
great analysis