I love how Lucas said hes always ready for anything ..... he hasnt seen MMA 2019 yet lol. Empire came out in 2015 this song was produced in 2013 so maybe whoever did the music for Empire watched BTS videos lol.
You are so right. I noticed so many reactions now by new ( i dont know how to call them) are not knowledgeable of the facts about BTS. They need to watch all the videos , read and contemplate on all the facts about BTS before they react on any BTS video. I cannot believe his question much more telling " I need the ARMY to research or gather info on who produce blah blah blah" What? ARMYs need to gather info. They knew by heart. Before they became ARMY they knew all these things. I real ARMY will laugh in ur reaction. At times these reactions are very annoying. It seems like it is done for more views only since the word BTS will lead to views. He seems to tell us that this song was copied/ pattern from Empire 2015!!! Hello!! This song was release 2013.
@@ethelbocalig5120 CALM DOWN! 🙄, They doing GOOD, He does lots of research even buys books related to the liturature references in songs ie: "The Ones Who Walked Away from Omelas" Herman Hesse - "Demian" etc. As for Lucas, he has only seen a couple of MVs and only very recently. Please don't speak for other ARMY you are not our elected spokesperson! Everyones BTS journey is different & should be undertaken at their own pace and of course they are going to make mistakes as the imformation around Bangtan can easy hit overload and 100% of that info isn't always retained. Even after being army for many years you can find things you missed. Also please don't gatekeep for ARMY, many people appreciate the journey here. If you find these reactors annoying then just don't watch them🤐. Tbh, I personally found 'your comment' annoying. Please learn more tolerance so that you may represent ARMY & BTS in a better way 감사합니다 🙏
PDogg is such a good producer because he evolves with BTS unlike other producers who tend to stick with what they know best. When it comes to the Big 3 I like 2nd gen Kpop more because every groups used to have different sound, but now they all sound the same.
Oh I’ve found someone who’s on the same wavelength as me 😂😂 (might be long, sorry) Yes! Something that’s plaguing kpop today (and hopefully won’t be too much of a problem in 4th Gen) is that a lot of prominent kpop producers do not evolve their sound. They’re stagnant. And when companies use that same producer for every track and for all their groups…it all basically sounds the same (for example, all BP tracks sound the same to me bc they’re all produced by Teddy and that man hasn’t changed his sound since I first heard it in 2013). But PDogg has always pushed himself to pursue other genres and styles and that has fostered and encouraged BTS to also not be afraid to change their sound as they grow. BTS and Pdogg actually talked abt this on a show a few years ago. I also have to agree with you abt 2nd Gen. That was my favorite generation bc literally everyone had a unique sound and it was all REALLY good. The whole vibe of the industry was so diff back then too. Everyone was friends, idols weren’t fearful to be close and interact with each other (esp male x female idols), collabs happened regardless of which company they were in. That was just the golden era of Kpop and I’m not too sure was caused the regression abt midway through 3rd Gen.
The way it goes is in Korea you are 1 when you are born then everyone turns a year older on January 1st (New Years) not their actual birthdays. So for instance V was born December 30, 1995 so 2 days later he was 2 years old by Korean age, when he was really only 2 days old. International age they were 15- 20 years old by Korean age they were 17 to 22 years old. Pdogg produced We Are Bulletproof Pt. 2.
Yes! and Jungkook signed his contract with BigHit July 2011. He always says he was 15 when he joined, but in global age he was still two months away from his 14th birthday..mindblowing. Thank goodness he had good guys around him
Now I am really confused on the age question 😵💫💜. I just watched a DKDKTV ,( the Korean TH-cam channel - love their explanation videos since they explain the meaning of Korean culture and word meaning from the videos), where they explained the whole Korean age and international age. But they said mother of the lunar year.😵💫😵💫😵💫 They explained that at birth you were considered 1 and on your 1st birth anniversary ( birthday) you are 2. Going on to explain that is why their ages are different….. most don’t consider a chil/baby 1 yr till 1st birthday. Which is where “ International age is from” . Also explained honorifics . That in BTS - Jin and Sugar are same age, but separated by months. - RM and J-Hope are same age again separated by months. Both of these may be like ( example only) - 1 turns 28 in October of one year ( EXAMPLE- - - NOT a fact!) and the second one turns 28 in February of the next year ( example not fact ). That means for about 7 months or so they are the same age. 🧐 I realized the same age thing when they were going over ages over and over and over. Above 👆🏻 formula would mean that their age is different for little over 3 months ( EXAMPLE from above 👆🏻). Honorific was explained as being age ( actual birthday) based, BUT most went by year instead of actual day. Still it depends on situational and social situations. Meaning what was appropriate in a business setting might be different from personal ( friend , family) setting. Hence Jin is “Oldest” by Months, but still same age ( NUMBER wise ) as Suga for part of the year. The only ones not given obvious separation by age is Jimin and V . They are often lumped by year since they are the only two “BORN “in the same year. So Honorifics I get ! But the age thing I am confused 😵💫 by. Do different Koreans consider the time you change ages differently or is DKDKTV right and somehow there was a misunderstanding somewhere? I’m not sure what is what now🤨🧐😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫. 💜❤️😵💫❤️😅😅😅😅😅😅😊👵🏻
😅 I just looked it up and officially ( government- legal) they use “man” - international. And lunar is traditional age keeping , but younger generations don’t often ( not all do , and not all don’t) use that anymore. So this would be why DKDKTV didn’t explain the lunar year( birthday). SO answer to my ? Would be YES Korean’s may have different views on when Birthdays are. Lunar year = calendar years - birth 💜 Soooo what your talking about would be = Calendar years+ day of birth ( birthday) + age at birth ( 1 year at birth 😵💫).(eumnyeok saeng-il =Lunar calendar ) for telling Birthday- traditional. 💜 Thennnnn there is 2. = anniversary of birth ( birthday) + birth age ( 1 year at birth). - article stated that now a days Koreans , especially young generations, tend to use ( yangnyeok saeng-il = Gregorian Calendar) for telling birthdays. 😅😅💜 Then finally international age ( man-nani) definition ( from article ) = full/actual-age . 😅 this cleared things up for me hope it does for you too. Article- East Asian Age Reckoning-
Easiest way to think about it is that the year you are born is your 1st year. So that’s why it is possible for V to clock up his 2nd year when he is 2 days old. No one in Korea would look at a two day old baby and say he is two years old.
2 Cool 4 Skool is the debut single album released by South Korean boy band BTS on June 12, 2013 through Big Hit Entertainment and distributed by Loen. The album was supported by two singles "No More Dream" and "We Are Bulletproof Pt.2". Commercially, it peaked at number five on the Gaon Album Chart in South Korea, and at number ten on Billboard's World Albums Chart in the United States. The album has sold over 300,000 copies as of June 2021. *NO. Song Title* *Writers* *Producer* 2. "We Are Bulletproof Pt.2" Pdogg; "Hitman" Bang; Supreme Boi; RM; Suga Pdogg
This song came out in 2013 so I'll write the ages accordingly with the international system. JK being the youngest was 15 and Jin the oldest was 20 (song was released before their birthdays which account for international system of age). So I guess the age range would be 15-20.
Back when Jungkook used to rap and not just sing hehe, BTS means Bangtan boys "bulletproof boys" so this song is literally their name hehe, their old tracks are pure hiphop, bro V'S VOICE SOUNDS SO DIFFERENT!! I mean he has the deepest voice in the group but his voice sounds really young here, wow, but we still can hear a little bit of his deep husk voice in this part 06:50 .. old times when Jimin used to sing in a deep voice (u know he has that high soft and sweet voice in the group BUT his voice in the chorus sounds really dope, he should sing more in deep tones fr) hehe rap line did an amazing job in this one fr! 09:57 LMAO The way RM threw Jhope XD BRUH V's and Jin's voics are SO different in this track, they kinda sounded like Jhope 06:28 & 10:10 wow, Jhope and Jimin the dance line went crazy in the end, Jungkook doing that thing with the hats I guess that was a thing in 2013 or in the "old" times, Bro the way RM says "we are bulletproof" sounds so satisfying XD
Can’t wait for the 2019 MMA show! But these songs leading up to it is a great idea. So much better to be familiar with them when going into the live performance. Really enjoy sharing your journey with you! 💜
I just looked up Empire on IMDB and it came out in 2015... and WAB pt 2 came out in 2013 as you mentioned. So I'm guessing it would be the other way around.
lol, I loved the HP reference! Yes, this room looks like the place where the chess match happened, but it was in the first movie, HP and the Philosopher's Stone (or HP and the Sorcerer's Stone if you are American).
We are Bulletproof Pt 2 produced by Pdogg and the writers are Pdogg, Hitman Bang, Supreme Boi, RM and Suga. The Empire series debuted in 2015 and this song was produced in 2013. So......Who listens to whom????
Check the credits. Producion and Song writing are diffrent. Suga produces more for other artist the BTS. J-Hope produced like 3 songs and Jungkook has more production credits then RM.
"You had a TH-cam channel." "I wasn't good at it." You guys cracked me up through this whole video. When I was a baby ARMY, I thought their early stuff like this was so cringe, but now it's like watching your kids' elementary school play video, like, "Awww! They were BABIES! THAT SPIT FIRE! So cute!" And you're absolutely right: they did a whole lot with almost nothing at all but lights and talent. But for real, this song is kind of hard and I love it. The Korean age thing used to confuse me so badly. But recently someone told me it's like this; Korean age = Birth Year - Current Year + 1. Voila! In international age, JK was 15 here, V and Jimin 17, RM 18, J-Hope 19, and Suga and Jin both 21 since Jin hadn't had his 22nd birthday yet. (In Korean age, +1 those numbers). I can't imagine being that ambitious that young. I certainly wasn't when I was 15-21. LOL I'm going to go check out more of your reactions. I always appreciate hearing about BTS' music from a producers' standpoint. (PDogg is the MAN,!) Thank you!
Lucas is hilarious and I love your relationship :) PS: Jimin & Jungkook have a black belt, Yoongi has a red belt. And very recently Jin also mentioned he has a black belt (Run Episode May 2021)
It is always one or two years more than your international age. Koreans consider a year in the womb as counting towards their age, so everyone is one year old at birth. Everyone gets one year added to their Korean age on New Year's Day. ... Your Korean age will always be at least one year older than your international age.💜 Just add one year to your actual age!
@@crystalsnow1138 I am 64 international age and in Korean age I am 65 of right now. Next Feb 2022 lunar year, I have to add 1 year again and I will be 66 .
@@jherrmann57 I am confused now 😵💫. The other day I was watching one of DKDKTV’s videos and the brought up this exact topic and explained that at birth you are 1 and then on your 1st birth anniversary ( birthday ) you are 2. That was all they didn’t add getting older at any other time of same year. So I am really confused about where the extra year comes from😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫 . Also since they are a Korean TH-cam channel does that mean different Korean’s approach the age question different? I Have heard many times about above 👆🏻 info from many sources, but this is the first ( mainly a few comments in this comment sections) about the lunar.😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫 I am not saying your wrong , just wondering if other TH-camr’s ( DKDKTV, XxCeleste..etc) have missing info. So I am trying to figure out which is right and why some ( mainly DK) didn’t explain it the other way.😵💫
@@breezzy69wy96 I always think of it as essentially the age you have turned or are turning in whichever year plus 1 year (for the time in the womb). So, my birthday is in March and I am currently 50 in international age / 51 Korean age. On New Year’s Day I will still be 50 international age but would be considered 52 Korean age, because in 2022 that is the age I will turn. On my birthday, I will become 51 in international but still be 52 in Korean age.
@@breezzy69wy96 I have this information from my asian friends, which are chinese and korean and there are calculators online where you put your birth year in and it shows you the korean age.
I LOVE watching you two interact. I'm already teared up with laughter before you even get through your intro. It is clear that you are great friends and can rib each other without hurting the friendship. So much fun to see that.
I like to recommend this live performance of the 2019 MAMA when they sang 'We are Bulletproof pt2' and 'N.O' years after their release, it really hits differently: @
OH MY GOD IT DOES SOUND LIKE IT COULD BE ON EMPIRE, "DRIP DROP DRIP DRIPITY DROP". This came out before Empire tho, but stilllll it woulda been perfect on that show hahah
When you realize that most honorifics used in Korean are age-based the birthday thing makes sense. Can you image if you had to go by actual birthdays? If there was a 6 mo difference between you and your friends ages, for half the year you might have to use honorifics and then drop them for the other half... I don't know. I guess I'm not making total sense here. Think of honorifics as showing deference to someone who is older than you. By everyone adding a year on Jan 1, age ranking is maintained and order prevails. Otherwise it's chaos. That's why in Korea, same age kids are closer because they don't use honorifics.
Thank you for explaining this. I wondered why Koreans still used different age counting than almost all the rest of the world, but you pointing out how honorifics would be affected makes the reason why this tradition continues completely logical. One tradition discarded (age) would mean a second tradition (honorific language) would have to go, too & I can't really see that happening anytime soon. I remember Jungkook telling Taehyung on S1 SOOP that he thought honorifics were a good thing because it kept their relationship more stable. He thought they'd fight more if he spoke to Tae as an equal when Tae had invited him to do so.
@@B16pal Yes, it's amazing how much it affects the whole culture. Think about how RM and Suga just sat there during that infamous radio program when they were being insulted by the underground rappers.... They were the youngest in that room (19 & 20?) and so they, literally, had to 'take it' as older people rebuked them. RM tried to reason with them without being confrontational, but I thought Suga was developing an ulcer right before my eyes. (Thus, the cyphers were born.)
@@cynthiaperez2232 💜👵🏻 For an interesting read look up -East Asian Age Reckoning- and it talks not only about international and Korean age , but also how that relates to “ honor”. 🧐Very interesting 🤔 and definitely straightens out the process of figuring out what is what as far as age is concerned. 😵💫😵💫😵💫 I say that because several people here keep stating the lunar year is added and that is the process, 😵💫😅 BUT DKDKTV ,( a Korean TH-cam channel- who has incredible explanation videos covering the Korean word and culture use in BTS videos- I think they may do other groups too but DON’T quote me on that.) did NOT mention lunar/New Year when explaining about Korean and international age differences. 😵💫😵💫😵💫🤨🤔🧐 The different explanations was VERY confusing. 🤔So I looked up above 👆🏻 article and now I understand. It has a special section for Korea, China, Japan and other Asian countries. ☘️Give it a look 👀 it will ( if nothing else ) add some info to what you know .😅😊👵🏻🍀
hey I checked it out. I found wikipedia more informative than yt on this. Interesting about age diffs between men and women in Mongolia. What an fascinating world we live in!
Lucas is so right when he asks when he wants to know something ! Keep asking questions, I know there are Armys who will give you the answers :) Looking forward to many more reactions from you both :D
2:50 I laughed when he said "what does all that stuff mean?" because I thought it was so ridiculous that he didn't know. Then I realized I listened intently for the answer because I didn't really know either. I have been humbled. Thank you.
I hope this is not a spoiler but rather adds appreciation for their showmanship, re the "hat trick": - - - It is a TRICK! Jimin mimes throwing his hat, Jungkook already has a duplicate that he mimes catching. He then is so distracting with his juggling that we don't notice Jimin putting his hat back on as he joins the line. It is a brilliant piece of business.
Well, abt the Korean age thing, the first thing is that everyone is born at the age of 1. So automatically they’re going to be 1 year older than their international age. Then, like you said, they’ll just consider themselves a year older once New Years hits, but there’s also a thing where if you have an early birthday in a new year it’s basically a +2 to your age. It’s pretty confusing for ppl new to the concept but that’s why in Korea someone can be considered 1-2 years older than their international age.
FYI, Lucas - "Empire started airing in 2015, "WE ARE BULLETPROOF" released June 2013. PDogg plus writers Bang PD, Supreme Boi, RM, SUGA and J-hope were not only ahead of his time but American TV shows were copying their music?
About the Korean age vs international age. In Korea you are considered one year old at birth and two years old at the new year. The easiest way to figure out how old someone's Korean age is to take their international age and, if it is before their birthday, add two years. If it's after their birthday, add one. For example, RM turned 27 internationally this year. In Korea he is 28. His birthday is on September 12. Before his birthday, when his international age was 26, he was still 28 in Korea. Does this make sense?
I used to watch Empire for the same reason Lucas! Guys, thanks for showing this video! Our guys have come a long way and have finally achieved the recognition that they deserve!
Just wanted to reply to give more attention to this. You said in the video it's a camera trick - it's not. The hat Jimin has isn't thrown, he just hides it with his body, but if you look to the side he puts it back on. JK comes out with two hats. Jimin just "throws" it at the perfect angle for head on view that it looks like it's tossed. Still super cool effect!
Just watched these backwards, which means I watched your "No More Dream" before this one. Actually "No More Dream" was their first music video that they put out. Even though this song was the B side to "No More Dream" they didn't make the video until I think a year later. In 2013 "No More Dream" was debuted so they came out with "No More Dream" they usually put one out with an MV then do 2 in the music show the 2nd not having an MV and this was the "No More Dream" back side. As the years go they count the day of conception as the 0 yr and then when you are born you are 1 then the next year at the turn of the year (Jan1) they turn a yr older so 2 the next year So Jin who was born on Dec 4 was one on Nov 30 when he was born then that Jan he turned 2 but he was still by our age only a month old. btw they call it the 1 mo old "international age" So Jin was 2 but in Inter. Age he was only 1 mo old. So Jin was born on Dec 4 1992. He is considered 30 yrs old in Korean age on Jan 1 2022 he will be 31.
You probably know by now, but the Korean age system is different not only with the fact they age up on new years technically but also that they're considered 1 when born; they take into account the time spent in the the stomach. Even though realistically you're not a baby the whole time you're in the womb and it's not exactly a year, but yeah it's a cultural thing so I don't question it x') even if it means that TECHNICALLY a newly born baby could turn two in a few days SK... 👀 Yeah... * Looks at Tae.* Edit : Namjoon produced WAB Part 1 ( yes there was a part one it was pre-debut, it was actually made with some of the original BTS members - Iron & Supreme Boi along with Joonie, you can hear it uploaded here on utub still th-cam.com/video/gDy0EbnAroQ/w-d-xo.html and then there was a remake of part 1 with the members we know a love now here th-cam.com/video/moYYh8xDjeg/w-d-xo.html which they made for their 2015 Festa 💜 ) as for WAB Part 2 Pdogg, one of their in house producers, produced it!
Simplest way to explain "Korean age"(other countries used to do this too but it's still in common use in Korea) is that they count calendar years. A baby born in 2019 is 1yr old at birth and 2 yrs old on Jan. 1, 2020. When 2021 rolls around, they'll be 3 yrs old because they'll be in their 3rd calendar year. Match cuts aren't uncommon in Kpop mvs. Since precise choreography and snazzy outfits are such a big part of Kpop, they make the most out of match cuts for some pretty darn coolness. Ppl yell at you for not knowing stuff about a song you've never heard before?? Ridiculousness 🤨
❤️ Just adding some to your comment since someone else might still be confused by this whole age thing❤️💜👍🏻 🧐🤨😵💫 I just looked up the age ? Since DKDKTV explained it differently from you guys - not talking about or adding the lunar year/ New Year. 🧐 👍🏻💜Read article - East Asian Age Reckoning-.💜👍🏻 😅 Explained under Jennifer Mann’s comment above yours if you want to see all that I found . But big take away was that lunar is Traditional, but not used as much now a days especially by young generations. 💜 Just passing along info since I got confused by what you guys said and what DKDKTV said when asked about Korean and International age.💜
.... sooooooo it's actually No More Dream that is their debut to the world. This one is the other single on the same album though, so half right 🤔. Maybe check my playlists on my channel for content. I have some by eras, genres and more. Maybe it may help you
No not same as Empire, what is Empire? Bts write their own songs or in house producers as well. Army's would also let you know that this is not related. You need to research.
You guys should also check out the live performance of this song that they did last year for the MOTS online concert (th-cam.com/video/RWWLEx1VF1A/w-d-xo.html). I love seeing them perform some of their older songs after they've progressed so far. This version is particularly interesting because they perform with a marching band. No dance break though...
Hi I am back. Nice reaction, ty. The stage mixes showcase their amazing dancing because the editor can cut and connect various stages of the song to create a seamless overall experience yet containing 3 or more live stage performances. It's cool. Though sometimes is jarring with the various outfit changes. Not sure if you have checked some out already. If not pls do. =0] Korean age: When you're born you're 1 (because it's your first year). Then on new years eve you start your 2nd year. So if you're born on December 4th (Jin as an example) by new years eve you're already 2 while in western age you'd only be about a month. Love u. stay safe. --baby ARMY NY USA 💜 #YouAreEnough
Here is every scene in order. …hope it helps you analyze the BU better. This is by no means going to reveal the whole Wings storyline but i hope it opens all the doors to unlock the BU’s secrets. Ps…video credit to the owner…Hybe 😊 th-cam.com/video/S3d0OT0mcCw/w-d-xo.html
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I love how Lucas said hes always ready for anything ..... he hasnt seen MMA 2019 yet lol. Empire came out in 2015 this song was produced in 2013 so maybe whoever did the music for Empire watched BTS videos lol.
exactly what i was thinking too
I can't wait til he watches MMA 2019! He's going to love it!
Yeah that's right. 💜😏
You are so right. I noticed so many reactions now by new ( i dont know how to call them) are not knowledgeable of the facts about BTS.
They need to watch all the videos , read and contemplate on all the facts about BTS before they react on any BTS video.
I cannot believe his question much more telling " I need the ARMY to research or gather info on who produce blah blah blah" What? ARMYs need to gather info. They knew by heart. Before they became ARMY they knew all these things.
I real ARMY will laugh in ur reaction. At times these reactions are very annoying. It seems like it is done for more views only since the word BTS will lead to views.
He seems to tell us that this song was copied/ pattern from Empire 2015!!! Hello!! This song was release 2013.
@@ethelbocalig5120 CALM DOWN! 🙄, They doing GOOD, He does lots of research even buys books related to the liturature references in songs ie: "The Ones Who Walked Away from Omelas" Herman Hesse - "Demian" etc. As for Lucas, he has only seen a couple of MVs and only very recently. Please don't speak for other ARMY you are not our elected spokesperson! Everyones BTS journey is different & should be undertaken at their own pace and of course they are going to make mistakes as the imformation around Bangtan can easy hit overload and 100% of that info isn't always retained. Even after being army for many years you can find things you missed. Also please don't gatekeep for ARMY, many people appreciate the journey here. If you find these reactors annoying then just don't watch them🤐. Tbh, I personally found 'your comment' annoying. Please learn more tolerance so that you may represent ARMY & BTS in a better way 감사합니다 🙏
We Are Bulletproof Pt. 2 by BTS. Songwriter(s): Pdogg, "Hitman" Bang, Supreme Boi, RM, Suga, J-Hope.
Producer(s): Pdogg
TV show empire ran from 2015-2020. This BTS video was released in 2013, so the music and concept was probably created in 2012 or before.
Yup, waaaaay before Empire. Check the dates.
PDogg is such a good producer because he evolves with BTS unlike other producers who tend to stick with what they know best. When it comes to the Big 3 I like 2nd gen Kpop more because every groups used to have different sound, but now they all sound the same.
good point
Oh I’ve found someone who’s on the same wavelength as me 😂😂 (might be long, sorry)
Yes! Something that’s plaguing kpop today (and hopefully won’t be too much of a problem in 4th Gen) is that a lot of prominent kpop producers do not evolve their sound. They’re stagnant. And when companies use that same producer for every track and for all their groups…it all basically sounds the same (for example, all BP tracks sound the same to me bc they’re all produced by Teddy and that man hasn’t changed his sound since I first heard it in 2013). But PDogg has always pushed himself to pursue other genres and styles and that has fostered and encouraged BTS to also not be afraid to change their sound as they grow. BTS and Pdogg actually talked abt this on a show a few years ago.
I also have to agree with you abt 2nd Gen. That was my favorite generation bc literally everyone had a unique sound and it was all REALLY good. The whole vibe of the industry was so diff back then too. Everyone was friends, idols weren’t fearful to be close and interact with each other (esp male x female idols), collabs happened regardless of which company they were in. That was just the golden era of Kpop and I’m not too sure was caused the regression abt midway through 3rd Gen.
oh god i thought i was the only one tripping when I said kpop groups nowadays sound the same
The way it goes is in Korea you are 1 when you are born then everyone turns a year older on January 1st (New Years) not their actual birthdays. So for instance V was born December 30, 1995 so 2 days later he was 2 years old by Korean age, when he was really only 2 days old. International age they were 15- 20 years old by Korean age they were 17 to 22 years old. Pdogg produced We Are Bulletproof Pt. 2.
Yes! and Jungkook signed his contract with BigHit July 2011. He always says he was 15 when he joined, but in global age he was still two months away from his 14th birthday..mindblowing. Thank goodness he had good guys around him
Now I am really confused on the age question 😵💫💜. I just watched a DKDKTV ,( the Korean TH-cam channel - love their explanation videos since they explain the meaning of Korean culture and word meaning from the videos), where they explained the whole Korean age and international age. But they said mother of the lunar year.😵💫😵💫😵💫
They explained that at birth you were considered 1 and on your 1st birth anniversary ( birthday) you are 2. Going on to explain that is why their ages are different….. most don’t consider a chil/baby 1 yr till 1st birthday. Which is where “ International age is from” .
Also explained honorifics . That in BTS - Jin and Sugar are same age, but separated by months. - RM and J-Hope are same age again separated by months. Both of these may be like ( example only) - 1 turns 28 in October of one year ( EXAMPLE- - - NOT a fact!) and the second one turns 28 in February of the next year ( example not fact ). That means for about 7 months or so they are the same age.
🧐 I realized the same age thing when they were going over ages over and over and over. Above 👆🏻 formula would mean that their age is different for little over 3 months ( EXAMPLE from above 👆🏻).
Honorific was explained as being age ( actual birthday) based, BUT most went by year instead of actual day. Still it depends on situational and social situations. Meaning what was appropriate in a business setting might be different from personal ( friend , family) setting.
Hence Jin is “Oldest” by Months, but still same age ( NUMBER wise ) as Suga for part of the year. The only ones not given obvious separation by age is Jimin and V . They are often lumped by year since they are the only two “BORN “in the same year.
So Honorifics I get ! But the age thing I am confused 😵💫 by. Do different Koreans consider the time you change ages differently or is DKDKTV right and somehow there was a misunderstanding somewhere?
I’m not sure what is what now🤨🧐😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫. 💜❤️😵💫❤️😅😅😅😅😅😅😊👵🏻
😅 I just looked it up and officially ( government- legal) they use “man” - international. And lunar is traditional age keeping , but younger generations don’t often ( not all do , and not all don’t) use that anymore.
So this would be why DKDKTV didn’t explain the lunar year( birthday). SO answer to my ? Would be YES Korean’s may have different views on when Birthdays are.
Lunar year = calendar years - birth
💜 Soooo what your talking about would be = Calendar years+ day of birth ( birthday) + age at birth ( 1 year at birth 😵💫).(eumnyeok saeng-il =Lunar calendar ) for telling Birthday- traditional.
💜 Thennnnn there is 2. = anniversary of birth ( birthday) + birth age ( 1 year at birth). - article stated that now a days Koreans , especially young generations, tend to use ( yangnyeok saeng-il = Gregorian Calendar) for telling birthdays.
😅😅💜 Then finally international age ( man-nani) definition ( from article ) = full/actual-age .
😅 this cleared things up for me hope it does for you too.
Article- East Asian Age Reckoning-
Most Asian countries including mine in Taiwan, you are considered 1 when born. Don’t think about the calendars. Simple The End
Easiest way to think about it is that the year you are born is your 1st year. So that’s why it is possible for V to clock up his 2nd year when he is 2 days old. No one in Korea would look at a two day old baby and say he is two years old.
2 Cool 4 Skool is the debut single album released by South Korean boy band BTS on June 12, 2013 through Big Hit Entertainment and distributed by Loen. The album was supported by two singles "No More Dream" and "We Are Bulletproof Pt.2". Commercially, it peaked at number five on the Gaon Album Chart in South Korea, and at number ten on Billboard's World Albums Chart in the United States. The album has sold over 300,000 copies as of June 2021.
*NO. Song Title* *Writers* *Producer*
2. "We Are Bulletproof Pt.2" Pdogg; "Hitman" Bang; Supreme Boi; RM; Suga Pdogg
Omg he told you to fix the way you say room I am literally dying right now 😂😂😂 that was so funny
This song came out in 2013 so I'll write the ages accordingly with the international system. JK being the youngest was 15 and Jin the oldest was 20 (song was released before their birthdays which account for international system of age). So I guess the age range would be 15-20.
Jungkook was 15 and Jin was 20 by international age, and they were 17 and 22 by Korean age at the time.
@@crystalsnow1138 oh right..cause their birthdays hadn't happened yet
I could listen to the two of you interact on end. Lucas. - Your sense of humor rocks!
1:57 Lucas: BTS out here fightin'?!
😂😂😂
Back when Jungkook used to rap and not just sing hehe, BTS means Bangtan boys "bulletproof boys" so this song is literally their name hehe, their old tracks are pure hiphop, bro V'S VOICE SOUNDS SO DIFFERENT!! I mean he has the deepest voice in the group but his voice sounds really young here, wow, but we still can hear a little bit of his deep husk voice in this part 06:50 .. old times when Jimin used to sing in a deep voice (u know he has that high soft and sweet voice in the group BUT his voice in the chorus sounds really dope, he should sing more in deep tones fr) hehe rap line did an amazing job in this one fr! 09:57 LMAO The way RM threw Jhope XD
BRUH V's and Jin's voics are SO different in this track, they kinda sounded like Jhope 06:28 & 10:10 wow, Jhope and Jimin the dance line went crazy in the end, Jungkook doing that thing with the hats I guess that was a thing in 2013 or in the "old" times,
Bro the way RM says "we are bulletproof" sounds so satisfying XD
Ikr
많은 bts음악이 있어요, 다른 음악도 편견없이 들어주세요. 분명 사랑할 수 밖에 없을겁니다.
this song was part of their debut album 2 kool 4 skool released on jun 13 2013 . . . empire premiered in jan 7 2015
Truth is, given Bang PD is apparently a HUGE Harry Potter fan, the checkered floor could have inspiration on the Wizard's Chess board 🤣
They are 1 when they are born. So what we consider our first birthday is their 2nd.
producer was Pdogg
Producer Pdogg. He is still at Big Hit and still producing, writing, and composing.
라이브로 실제로 본다면 더 멋져요ᆢ항상 잘 보고 있습니다ᆢ감사합니다ᆢ
love the commentary and the brotherhood the two of you have.
Can’t wait for the 2019 MMA show! But these songs leading up to it is a great idea. So much better to be familiar with them when going into the live performance. Really enjoy sharing your journey with you! 💜
I just looked up Empire on IMDB and it came out in 2015... and WAB pt 2 came out in 2013 as you mentioned. So I'm guessing it would be the other way around.
I love it when you try something new.
lol, I loved the HP reference! Yes, this room looks like the place where the chess match happened, but it was in the first movie, HP and the Philosopher's Stone (or HP and the Sorcerer's Stone if you are American).
This song came out before Empire did.
I really love the reactions with Producer. Keep them coming please and thank you 💜
We are Bulletproof Pt 2 produced by Pdogg and the writers are Pdogg, Hitman Bang, Supreme Boi, RM and Suga.
The Empire series debuted in 2015 and this song was produced in 2013. So......Who listens to whom????
ARMYs must be everywhere ☺️
Rapline is heavily involved in the production as well.
Check the credits. Producion and Song writing are diffrent. Suga produces more for other artist the BTS. J-Hope produced like 3 songs and Jungkook has more production credits then RM.
@@bee12117 I do. they are credited. They have their team but they're also involved in their music. Don't dismiss that.
I can’t wait til you two get to the live performance!! Have snacks and stay hydrated lol
"You had a TH-cam channel." "I wasn't good at it." You guys cracked me up through this whole video.
When I was a baby ARMY, I thought their early stuff like this was so cringe, but now it's like watching your kids' elementary school play video, like, "Awww! They were BABIES! THAT SPIT FIRE! So cute!" And you're absolutely right: they did a whole lot with almost nothing at all but lights and talent.
But for real, this song is kind of hard and I love it.
The Korean age thing used to confuse me so badly. But recently someone told me it's like this; Korean age = Birth Year - Current Year + 1. Voila! In international age, JK was 15 here, V and Jimin 17, RM 18, J-Hope 19, and Suga and Jin both 21 since Jin hadn't had his 22nd birthday yet. (In Korean age, +1 those numbers). I can't imagine being that ambitious that young. I certainly wasn't when I was 15-21. LOL
I'm going to go check out more of your reactions. I always appreciate hearing about BTS' music from a producers' standpoint. (PDogg is the MAN,!) Thank you!
Lucas is hilarious and I love your relationship :)
PS: Jimin & Jungkook have a black belt, Yoongi has a red belt. And very recently Jin also mentioned he has a black belt (Run Episode May 2021)
It is always one or two years more than your international age. Koreans consider a year in the womb as counting towards their age, so everyone is one year old at birth. Everyone gets one year added to their Korean age on New Year's Day. ... Your Korean age will always be at least one year older than your international age.💜 Just add one year to your actual age!
How I do it is if your birthday has passed already in 2021 add 1 year if it hasn't happened in 2021 yet add 2 years.
@@crystalsnow1138 I am 64 international age and in Korean age I am 65 of right now. Next Feb 2022 lunar year, I have to add 1 year again and I will be 66 .
@@jherrmann57 I am confused now 😵💫. The other day I was watching one of DKDKTV’s videos and the brought up this exact topic and explained that at birth you are 1 and then on your 1st birth anniversary ( birthday ) you are 2.
That was all they didn’t add getting older at any other time of same year. So I am really confused about where the extra year comes from😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫 .
Also since they are a Korean TH-cam channel does that mean different Korean’s approach the age question different?
I Have heard many times about above 👆🏻 info from many sources, but this is the first ( mainly a few comments in this comment sections) about the lunar.😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫
I am not saying your wrong , just wondering if other TH-camr’s ( DKDKTV, XxCeleste..etc) have missing info. So I am trying to figure out which is right and why some ( mainly DK) didn’t explain it the other way.😵💫
@@breezzy69wy96 I always think of it as essentially the age you have turned or are turning in whichever year plus 1 year (for the time in the womb). So, my birthday is in March and I am currently 50 in international age / 51 Korean age. On New Year’s Day I will still be 50 international age but would be considered 52 Korean age, because in 2022 that is the age I will turn. On my birthday, I will become 51 in international but still be 52 in Korean age.
@@breezzy69wy96 I have this information from my asian friends, which are chinese and korean and there are calculators online where you put your birth year in and it shows you the korean age.
Korean age, once born you are 1 yr old. Then come your first bday you are 2.
I LOVE watching you two interact. I'm already teared up with laughter before you even get through your intro. It is clear that you are great friends and can rib each other without hurting the friendship. So much fun to see that.
Well the empire TV series came out in 2015, music not related and this BTS song was out on 2013 major difference
exactly
See also the dance practice of the songs .. it's great
I love the banter between you two! I think No More Dream was their first song/MV.
You're right, No More Dream is their 1st debut song not this one
It's produced by Pdogg;
Written (composition and/or lyrics) by Pdogg, Hitman bang, Supreme Boi, Rap Monster, SUGA, Jung Kook, and J-Hope.
I like to recommend this live performance of the 2019 MAMA when they sang 'We are Bulletproof pt2' and 'N.O' years after their release, it really hits differently: @
OH MY GOD IT DOES SOUND LIKE IT COULD BE ON EMPIRE, "DRIP DROP DRIP DRIPITY DROP". This came out before Empire tho, but stilllll it woulda been perfect on that show hahah
When you realize that most honorifics used in Korean are age-based the birthday thing makes sense. Can you image if you had to go by actual birthdays? If there was a 6 mo difference between you and your friends ages, for half the year you might have to use honorifics and then drop them for the other half... I don't know. I guess I'm not making total sense here. Think of honorifics as showing deference to someone who is older than you. By everyone adding a year on Jan 1, age ranking is maintained and order prevails. Otherwise it's chaos.
That's why in Korea, same age kids are closer because they don't use honorifics.
Thank you for explaining this. I wondered why Koreans still used different age counting than almost all the rest of the world, but you pointing out how honorifics would be affected makes the reason why this tradition continues completely logical. One tradition discarded (age) would mean a second tradition (honorific language) would have to go, too & I can't really see that happening anytime soon. I remember Jungkook telling Taehyung on S1 SOOP that he thought honorifics were a good thing because it kept their relationship more stable. He thought they'd fight more if he spoke to Tae as an equal when Tae had invited him to do so.
@@B16pal Yes, it's amazing how much it affects the whole culture. Think about how RM and Suga just sat there during that infamous radio program when they were being insulted by the underground rappers.... They were the youngest in that room (19 & 20?) and so they, literally, had to 'take it' as older people rebuked them. RM tried to reason with them without being confrontational, but I thought Suga was developing an ulcer right before my eyes. (Thus, the cyphers were born.)
@@cynthiaperez2232 💜👵🏻 For an interesting read look up -East Asian Age Reckoning- and it talks not only about international and Korean age , but also how that relates to “ honor”.
🧐Very interesting 🤔 and definitely straightens out the process of figuring out what is what as far as age is concerned.
😵💫😵💫😵💫 I say that because several people here keep stating the lunar year is added and that is the process, 😵💫😅 BUT DKDKTV ,( a Korean TH-cam channel- who has incredible explanation videos covering the Korean word and culture use in BTS videos- I think they may do other groups too but DON’T quote me on that.) did NOT mention lunar/New Year when explaining about Korean and international age differences.
😵💫😵💫😵💫🤨🤔🧐 The different explanations was VERY confusing. 🤔So I looked up above 👆🏻 article and now I understand. It has a special section for Korea, China, Japan and other Asian countries.
☘️Give it a look 👀 it will ( if nothing else ) add some info to what you know .😅😊👵🏻🍀
@@breezzy69wy96 Thanks. Appreciate this. Will check it out.
hey I checked it out. I found wikipedia more informative than yt on this. Interesting about age diffs between men and women in Mongolia. What an fascinating world we live in!
It's always fun to watch you both reacting to BTS' MVs 😁. Looking forward to more future BTS reactions.
That song was released in 2013 and Empire TV show started in 2015 so maybe the show was inspired by BTS, lol.
You guys said so many insightful things, but somehow, all I can remember is "rum" and "simular". 😂😂💜
Show him the MAMA 2019 . Which they performed We are bulletproof pt.2
Thanks for the reactions. Looking forward to the live performances :D
Empire came after this.
Omg room? Are you saying room? Hahahahahahah 💜
Lucas is so right when he asks when he wants to know something ! Keep asking questions, I know there are Armys who will give you the answers :) Looking forward to many more reactions from you both :D
This is def PDogg. He does a lot of their music along with the 3 rappers of the group and Slow Rabbit and Bang PD
You need to check out daechwita live when all the members sing a part of the song. It's amazing!
Adding this "nice" comment to counter any "not nice" comments! I like your reactions and banter!
I’m so glad you are going to listen to all the songs before the 2019 MMAS. It will be a lot better. 💜
2:50 I laughed when he said "what does all that stuff mean?" because I thought it was so ridiculous that he didn't know. Then I realized I listened intently for the answer because I didn't really know either. I have been humbled. Thank you.
Smiley face for the algorithm 😄
No More Dream is their first song
The we are bulletproof pt. 2 performance is from MAMA 2019, not mma (just a small correction)
the wizard chess was in the first one "the philosopher's stone "not the second one "the chamber of secrets" XD.
I hope this is not a spoiler but rather adds appreciation for their showmanship, re the "hat trick":
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It is a TRICK! Jimin mimes throwing his hat, Jungkook already has a duplicate that he mimes catching. He then is so distracting with his juggling that we don't notice Jimin putting his hat back on as he joins the line. It is a brilliant piece of business.
Well, abt the Korean age thing, the first thing is that everyone is born at the age of 1. So automatically they’re going to be 1 year older than their international age. Then, like you said, they’ll just consider themselves a year older once New Years hits, but there’s also a thing where if you have an early birthday in a new year it’s basically a +2 to your age.
It’s pretty confusing for ppl new to the concept but that’s why in Korea someone can be considered 1-2 years older than their international age.
FYI, Lucas - "Empire started airing in 2015, "WE ARE BULLETPROOF" released June 2013. PDogg plus writers Bang PD, Supreme Boi, RM, SUGA and J-hope were not only ahead of his time but American TV shows were copying their music?
About the Korean age vs international age. In Korea you are considered one year old at birth and two years old at the new year. The easiest way to figure out how old someone's Korean age is to take their international age and, if it is before their birthday, add two years. If it's after their birthday, add one.
For example, RM turned 27 internationally this year. In Korea he is 28. His birthday is on September 12. Before his birthday, when his international age was 26, he was still 28 in Korea.
Does this make sense?
Totally love your chemistry. 💜🎼🎶💜
I used to watch Empire for the same reason Lucas! Guys, thanks for showing this video! Our guys have come a long way and have finally achieved the recognition that they deserve!
Empire Season 1 started 2015 while We the Bulletproof by BTS was their 2013.
Love you two together!
If you look closely, the hat throw is an optical illusion.
Just wanted to reply to give more attention to this. You said in the video it's a camera trick - it's not. The hat Jimin has isn't thrown, he just hides it with his body, but if you look to the side he puts it back on. JK comes out with two hats. Jimin just "throws" it at the perfect angle for head on view that it looks like it's tossed. Still super cool effect!
Empire show didn’t come out till 2015 so maybe someone was watching a lot of BTS ?
Just watched these backwards, which means I watched your "No More Dream" before this one. Actually "No More Dream" was their first music video that they put out. Even though this song was the B side to "No More Dream" they didn't make the video until I think a year later. In 2013 "No More Dream" was debuted so they came out with "No More Dream" they usually put one out with an MV then do 2 in the music show the 2nd not having an MV and this was the "No More Dream" back side. As the years go they count the day of conception as the 0 yr and then when you are born you are 1 then the next year at the turn of the year (Jan1) they turn a yr older so 2 the next year So Jin who was born on Dec 4 was one on Nov 30 when he was born then that Jan he turned 2 but he was still by our age only a month old. btw they call it the 1 mo old "international age" So Jin was 2 but in Inter. Age he was only 1 mo old. So Jin was born on Dec 4 1992. He is considered 30 yrs old in Korean age on Jan 1 2022 he will be 31.
Empire came out in 2015, this was done in 2013 so nope.
Yeah he says room weird
He not even cappin it do sound like empire tho
But I’m pretty sure empire came out after this sooo
You probably know by now, but the Korean age system is different not only with the fact they age up on new years technically but also that they're considered 1 when born; they take into account the time spent in the the stomach. Even though realistically you're not a baby the whole time you're in the womb and it's not exactly a year, but yeah it's a cultural thing so I don't question it x') even if it means that TECHNICALLY a newly born baby could turn two in a few days SK... 👀 Yeah... * Looks at Tae.*
Edit : Namjoon produced WAB Part 1 ( yes there was a part one it was pre-debut, it was actually made with some of the original BTS members - Iron & Supreme Boi along with Joonie, you can hear it uploaded here on utub still th-cam.com/video/gDy0EbnAroQ/w-d-xo.html and then there was a remake of part 1 with the members we know a love now here th-cam.com/video/moYYh8xDjeg/w-d-xo.html which they made for their 2015 Festa 💜 ) as for WAB Part 2 Pdogg, one of their in house producers, produced it!
I’m pretty sure I’ve seen the hat throw in live performances.
I hope No more dream is also on the list for Lucas
Simplest way to explain "Korean age"(other countries used to do this too but it's still in common use in Korea) is that they count calendar years. A baby born in 2019 is 1yr old at birth and 2 yrs old on Jan. 1, 2020. When 2021 rolls around, they'll be 3 yrs old because they'll be in their 3rd calendar year.
Match cuts aren't uncommon in Kpop mvs. Since precise choreography and snazzy outfits are such a big part of Kpop, they make the most out of match cuts for some pretty darn coolness.
Ppl yell at you for not knowing stuff about a song you've never heard before?? Ridiculousness 🤨
❤️ Just adding some to your comment since someone else might still be confused by this whole age thing❤️💜👍🏻
🧐🤨😵💫 I just looked up the age ? Since DKDKTV explained it differently from you guys - not talking about or adding the lunar year/ New Year. 🧐
👍🏻💜Read article - East Asian Age Reckoning-.💜👍🏻
😅 Explained under Jennifer Mann’s comment above yours if you want to see all that I found . But big take away was that lunar is Traditional, but not used as much now a days especially by young generations.
💜 Just passing along info since I got confused by what you guys said and what DKDKTV said when asked about Korean and International age.💜
To-may-toe/to-muh-toe 😂
Yes the Lucas list🥰
You guys are weird 🤪🤪🤪
Nah, you're just funny! love your interactions. You good, keep going! 😂
Love your reaction as always, and I enjoy Lucas's sens of humour ! Your nice , guys, keep going, as Jimin said.
Blink, blink ... 😌😌
*WE ARE HUKKET PROOF PT2" to "WE ARE BULLET PROOF PT2: ETERNAL" please*
It's better to watch "We Are Bullet Proof: Eternal" after watching all the videos so they catch everything. It's wasted on someone who is new to BTS.
.... sooooooo it's actually No More Dream that is their debut to the world. This one is the other single on the same album though, so half right 🤔. Maybe check my playlists on my channel for content. I have some by eras, genres and more. Maybe it may help you
No not same as Empire, what is Empire? Bts write their own songs or in house producers as well. Army's would also let you know that this is not related. You need to research.
Lol u 2 are funny 🤣🤣🤣
Showing Lucas the hat dance yaaaas!!!
The chess game is on Sorcerer's stone... whut even....
Yes I agree with age .. I m 25 international age but in Korea I m 27
Here is my comment 😁👍
Lucasssss!!
You guys should also check out the live performance of this song that they did last year for the MOTS online concert (th-cam.com/video/RWWLEx1VF1A/w-d-xo.html). I love seeing them perform some of their older songs after they've progressed so far. This version is particularly interesting because they perform with a marching band. No dance break though...
You are 1 year at birth...Then when the first New Year comes they add a year...After that you age 1 year on your Birthday like normal
No jimin did actually threw it and jk cut it there's a video out there showing them practicing throwing the cap
🤣 you guys are just so full of bs... but love you
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Hi I am back. Nice reaction, ty. The stage mixes showcase their amazing dancing because the editor can cut and connect various stages of the song to create a seamless overall experience yet containing 3 or more live stage performances. It's cool. Though sometimes is jarring with the various outfit changes. Not sure if you have checked some out already. If not pls do. =0]
Korean age:
When you're born you're 1 (because it's your first year). Then on new years eve you start your 2nd year. So if you're born on December 4th (Jin as an example) by new years eve you're already 2 while in western age you'd only be about a month.
Love u. stay safe. --baby ARMY NY USA 💜 #YouAreEnough
Do react to this performance live!!🥺
Iirc, this song didn't even chart. And look where BTS is today.
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Don't pay attention to toxic comments💜
Here is every scene in order. …hope it helps you analyze the BU better. This is by no means going to reveal the whole Wings storyline but i hope it opens all the doors to unlock the BU’s secrets. Ps…video credit to the owner…Hybe 😊
th-cam.com/video/S3d0OT0mcCw/w-d-xo.html
DUDE.. YOU ARE WRONG!!!!!
BTS DEBUTED 2012 .. but,
MV CAME OUT 2013😊😊
SHOW EMPIRE - 2016