Louis Couperin: Tombeau de Mr. de Blancrocher. John Moraitis, harpsichord.

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    Louis Couperin: Tombeau de Mr. de Blancrocher. John Moraitis, harpsichord.
    Harpsichord by Martine Argellies (Montpellier, 2012), after Dulcken.
    Temperament: quarter-comma meantone. A=415 Hz.

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  • @jeanpaulchoppart6818
    @jeanpaulchoppart6818 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for all your interesting videos. Let me be a little pedantic : I presume that "Blancrocher" must be pronounced as "Blanrocher". The meaning of the name is probably "white rock", "blanc rocher". According to Wikipedia, the name was also written "Blanrocher" :
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Fleury

  • @wolkowy1
    @wolkowy1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Choosing carefully his means of expression, did he? - this is one of the best Tombeaux I've ever heard (and seen the notes), if not THE best! and so is its (presentation and) performance! Chapeau and many thanks for this unique upload.

    • @johnmoraitis
      @johnmoraitis  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! And yes, it is an absolutely wonderful piece!

  • @jmccarty3
    @jmccarty3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks so much for the wonderful performance and analysis. This is one of the first pieces I learned when I began to play the harpsichord years ago, and I still enjoy playing it.

    • @johnmoraitis
      @johnmoraitis  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm happy you liked the video!

  • @heavynov
    @heavynov 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fantastic playing and wonderfully illuminating and interesting knowledge you've shared, as always!

    • @johnmoraitis
      @johnmoraitis  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you!

    • @heavynov
      @heavynov 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnmoraitis Aboslutely nothing to thank me for! Expressing my appreciation is the least I can do, given what great value you provide to the early music community!

  • @christophedevos3760
    @christophedevos3760 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also ' blanc croche', a white note, or a note that doesn't exist?

    • @johnmoraitis
      @johnmoraitis  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In this case, I think the reference is specifically to the lutenist Blancrocher, although the so-called "white notation" was certainly a way of notating certain pieces of music (Couperin does not really use it in this piece).

  • @written12
    @written12 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent presentations and performances.
    Thank you so much.

    • @johnmoraitis
      @johnmoraitis  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm happy you liked the video!

  • @Hnw761
    @Hnw761 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was a great video thanks so much.

  • @christophedevos3760
    @christophedevos3760 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there an extramusical meaning in the chord that is repeated over and over again (4 times)?

    • @johnmoraitis
      @johnmoraitis  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There may be, although as always this invites different interpretations. I've read before that that section may be suggestive of the sounds of a carillon, and I also remember reading somewhere (I need to check where) that those chords could symbolize Blancrocher's struggling in the final moments before his death. I don't think there is a definitive answer, but it's definitely a very striking moment in the piece!

    • @christophedevos3760
      @christophedevos3760 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnmoraitis yes, I was suddenly also thinking about the 'passus duriusculus', the 'difficult step' in relation to the fall of Blancrocher, but of course this is a more chromatic construction, I'm not sure if this is the case here.

  • @horaciobollini3525
    @horaciobollini3525 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful! Many thanks for this video.

  • @wapolo1974
    @wapolo1974 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another wonder presentation and performance, John!

  • @jgentz9356
    @jgentz9356 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant interpretation, thank you so much!

  • @TheBrassWhisperer
    @TheBrassWhisperer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Marvellous

  • @owenspafford7335
    @owenspafford7335 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is so beautiful thankyou!

  • @pavelbatalov657
    @pavelbatalov657 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for interesting topic, John! Do you know somebody who play Ab instead G# in this piece? How he can do it?

    • @johnmoraitis
      @johnmoraitis  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm happy you liked it! I don't know of a specific recording that does that for this piece (although there may be one out there), but it's just a matter of retuning the G sharp higher so that it is an A flat. I was just talking in general, because some performers will modify temperaments to fit particular pieces, and I am not convinced that was what they did back then.

    • @pavelbatalov657
      @pavelbatalov657 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnmoraitis Perhaps the barocco harpsichordist could use both sounds in one piece, because they could change the pitch during the performance? Like in turkish kanun:
      th-cam.com/video/z8y31oTd_cc/w-d-xo.html (0:35 s)

    • @johnmoraitis
      @johnmoraitis  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@pavelbatalov657 Sure, but: 1) I know of no evidence that they did that; 2) if you do that, you change the expressive content completely (as I explained in the video). And, of course, what do you do with all the church organs of the time tuned to meantone where no change is possible? :-) As I said in the video, in my opinion Couperin is using meantone for expressive purposes; if you modify it, you lose what he was aiming for. As always, of course, that's just my opinion!

    • @pavelbatalov657
      @pavelbatalov657 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnmoraitis I like this idea of using a break in meantone like a simbol of death or some allegory of the impossibility of continuing the harmony of life after death. The question is how widespread this technique was in those time. Do you know another example?

    • @johnmoraitis
      @johnmoraitis  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pavelbatalov657 I've recorded a couple of examples :-) Look at my previous videos of Louis Couperin's Pavanne in f sharp minor, and Froberger's Suite in c minor.

  • @Iceologer
    @Iceologer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I might be mistaken but, I think this piece is in "Pièces de clavecin du manuscrit Bauyn" right?

    • @johnmoraitis
      @johnmoraitis  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're absolutely right -- it is indeed in the Bauyn manuscript, and that's the score you see in the video!

    • @Iceologer
      @Iceologer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@johnmoraitis thats amazing really, to see Louis Couperin's own hand writing, plus it
      help us understand how people were used to create music.

    • @johnmoraitis
      @johnmoraitis  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Iceologer I'll have to check on this, but if I remember correctly it is not his own handwriting: what happened was that his manuscripts were copied by others, and we now have two sources: Bauyn is probably the most complete one, but there is also the Parville manuscript, which duplicates most of the pieces in Bauyn and I think is in a library somewhere in the U.S. But it may very well be one of his relatives responsible for some of this copying (the Bauyn manuscript also has pieces by other composers, and a photocopy is actually available on IMSLP). But I need to do some research to make sure what I just wrote is correct :-)