South Park Helped Us DESTROY Scientology Together
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.พ. 2025
- For the first time, Marc and Claire Headley of the @blownforgood channel and SPTV (Suppressive Person TV) talk publicly TOGETHER about how their love conquered scientology. We talk about everything from the role of South Park to the hardships of the Sea Org, and interactions with top scientologist and Hollywood celebrity Tom Cruise. #scientology #tomcruise #sptv
What was the most shocking thing you heard? I found that Tom Cruise stuff insane!
its sad that pll get treated that way
The irony that they technically "slept together" on their first date. 😂
I love that! Didn't think of it that way! @@LuvPureCom
What I'm most shocked about is that it took South Park to leak the lunacy & stupidity of LRH's teachings. How has the "church" managed to keep its public members and staff, and longtime members like Marc, from hearing about all the higher level nonsense for decades??
@@LuvPureComI didn't know it was their first date! 😮
I did a personality test in South Africa in the 80's and after they told me my failings and told me I need to pay for courses, I thought to myself, these guys don't even know me and they think I have problems, they can sod off, thank goodness I am rebellious
Good! You dodged a bullet! ❤
They don't want people like you anyhow. They try to weed out the thinkers.
Oh my word, I didn't even know that they were here in SA way back then already! I know they're here now, but back in the 80's already? Goodness! 😮
Yeah, I took one too one day while waiting for a friend to finish her shopping. They came out with their "results" Now I have close family with masters degrees and doctorates in social work and mental health fields of study so I found this whole thing ridiculous. I asked the two Scientologists standing there going on about what their so called (childish) questionnaire had concluded "What qualifies you to make these conclusions?" Who makes this questionnaire?" "What precisely was your field of study that qualifies you to do this?" "Which university did you attend and what degree did you obtain that qualifies you to make such a sweeping diagnosis based on a shoddy questionnaire?" They couldn't get me out of there fast enough. They were stumped and could not answer me. However, they still called me and harassed me for months afterward. To the point, I threatened them with a restraining order.
@@rca6576 Ha ha, good for you!
In the 1980s I lived and studied drama in Brighton England and Scientology tried to recruit me. I was working part time as a waitress in an Italian pasta parlour place and these Scientologist would accost me on the street on my way to work and they would aggressively try to sell me Dianetics, I was a student working as a waitress I had no money and I tried to tell them this over and over again and they just got more aggressive saying I didn't care about saving the world. I had no idea what they were talking about. In the end I got two big burly chefs from work to meet me on my way to work and I actually had to get them to menace the Scientologists i.e. threaten them into leaving me alone! It actually worked and I stopped seeing them around the streets. The whole thing creeped me out so badly that the very mention of Scientology freaked me out for years. How do they recruit anyone if they are so aggressive? Bullying someone to spend money they didn't have on a book the size of a brick and looked utterly boring and crap is not the way to endear people to your organisation. I will always be grateful for the time I was abroke student and I knew two big burly chefs!! the poverty and the threats seemed to keep me out of a nightmare cult thank god! As a consequence I have sort of kept a vague interest whenever I hear Scientology and doesn't seem to have improved from the 1980s. As I said thank god I never got taken in!!
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They tried to get me too. Free flight from Scotland to LA. Thankfully, the US embassy In Edinburgh said no visas to join a ‘cult’. I was looking for a free holiday.😎 Knew nothing at all about Scientology.
When the Helmut was 20 and at a very low ebb (the gargle), I'd ambled into a shop that sold ginseng root. I thought it would be good for Helmut. The bloke in the shop started chatting and evincing deep caring etc. The Scientrology pitch soon arrived. Despite the fact that I was a low ebb yob, I laughed in the bloke's face und scarpered. Cannae fathom how anyone could get stuck in.
My dear, if you thought they were hardcore trying to sell you the book, you can't imagine how they are, once they get you into the building for the "sales pitch" and getting the money to pay for it. Yes, you had two "guarding angels" watching out for you. This cult, in the base ideology, is satanic worship. "Aliens" are demons. Watch the movie "Strange Angel" about Jack Parsons, the guy who created space rockets. Parsons and L.Ron Hubbard were "buddies" who just happened to follow Aleister Crowley. All were into demonic insanity.
Marc and Claire, you're not only smart, generous and bad asses, you're absolutely adorable as a couple! Seeing your grins while chatting about your meeting and courtship, makes me smile 🥰😍
The disconnection policy is so absolutely abusive and evil. I just can't imagine that kind of pain being intentionally inflicted. 💔😠
its some of the most horrid shit I have known about since the current sex trafficking done by abusive partners and pimps and also as awful as what slavery and poverty has done to families. people giving a kid away to marry when she is 13 because they need the money and they cant afford the extra mouth to feed. or in chattel slavery constantly selling people off to far away places as punishment or for the right dollar. humans can be awful
That alone should get their tax exempt status revoked. That’s not a religion that’s a cult
It happens in most religions to one degree or another. Very sad.
@@DQ_Mine That's just not true. You don't know what you're talking about. Neither in Christianity nor in Buddhism nor in Judaism nor in Islam nor in Taoism, you're lied to about the core believes of the respective faith as is the case in Scientology as a parishioner. In none of those faiths there's a pay for play scheme as in Scientology. Of course, no organization of a certain scale is able to function without money, but in all mentioned religions, the contributions are usually regulated in a transparent manner, the amount is ajusted according to the means a person has and the poor have to pay nothing! Although some hardcore islamic countries and congregations are an exception; those religions also don't block their flock so totally from outside information and punish apostates by separating them from their families. This is true for all the mainstream congregations of said religions. There's also no other religion that has a 'Celebrity Center'. To every thinking person, this shady PR practise of the Scientology sect alone should be a warning sign. Because, contrary to what militant atheists say, you don't have to check in your brain at the door of a church or temple of most traditional congregations. I've got no problems with atheism as such or atheists, but this kind of statement you made, is downplaying the harm sinister cults like Scientology cause. Open your mind and educate yourself, before you parrot the most ignorant bullet points of militant atheists and that way excuse the abuses of Scientology.
Of course there are the Mormons, who demand 10% tithes from members@@karsten9895
I was so disappointed when this was over. I could listen to you three all day. Marc is a natural speaker and teacher. Claire is so pretty and incredibly smart. Keep up the important work, Andrew.
I definitely don't mind having Claire's face on my screen for as long as she wants to be there. No problem with that at all.
@@vampiresquidYeah. Too bad surface looks don't always reflect someone's moral compass.
@@theresaschmidt1183yeah recent developments have me agreeing
"Playing grab ass with the ginger up the hill." 😂😂😂
Oh Marc you're a damn legend. Hi Claire & hi Andrew. What a wonderful love story.
Arrested Development approves. Very Tobias Funke 😂😂
Mufti is an Indian word of Arabic origin - refers to plain clothes as opposed to uniform , even police in plain clothes under cover or generally about are called mufti police in India !
I just love the Headleys!! So glad you had them on!
Right? They are awesome!
Both Mark and Claire are so intelligent and well spoken. Thank you for sharing and speaking out both of you. ❤ 🙏
“The only counselling I got was from Tom Cruise” …and then Marc decided to escape. 😂😂😂.
Andrew, this episode was brilliant! Those two are amazingly cheerful and witty about what was a pretty grim ordeal. Their spirit, resilience and good nature are outstanding and and should be an inspiration to us all.
-dave
I want them to address what happened with Aaron
@@sandlund1 Yeah, me too. From what I know, it was a pretty underhanded move they engineered. I was on a board of a membership organization for several years and to add or change the bylaws required publishing the proposed change to the entire membership and soliciting their feedback, and finally a yea or nay vote by the membership.
Nice one Andrew, Claire and Marc :)
What a lovely couple! So glad that you two claimed your freedom xx
I read dianetics after South Park. I ordered the Mormon bible after South Park. I made my children to watch South Park as a cult vaccine. My aim was to raise free thinkers. When I was young I almost fell into the yoga thing. But being a woman, and realizing that the male students hugs on us were longer than men to men, I knew it was fishy. Since then I have this curiosity on why people need leaders to follow. I am basically a bad seed in every cult or religion or whatever (corporation and start up culture). But I gave up trying to bring people to their senses. People just love to be told what to do. Now I see the same on internet: eat this, drink that, wake up at this time, take cold showers, etc. in my opinion it is all control strategies to keep us as flocks of sheep, and make money on our faith.
Love you videos. And I really like this couple. ❤
That is why I’m very interested in this sort of stories. I can not phantom why anybody can follow anyone with dedication. But I have never been a dedicated fan of anyone; even in my teens.
You're right!
this turned me into an atheist minus the south park lol. just reading the stuff my religious family told me to read. reading books about those books is the equivalent to a south park situation
Some things you should do though...eat healthy, exercise, be frugal...
U may have an addictive personality?
@ushadigiacomo7213 Most all religions are cults - it's just a matter of degrees. If a person believes in God - go straight to God. NOT religion.
Marc and Claire are so cute! So happy they got out of that terrible life.
I listened to Blown For Good on Audible and I was driving home from work listened to the part where Mark had left and he got the call from Claire that she was out too, I remember happy crying so much! It's such an amazing book and I love hearing from the Headleys ❤️
I was a very fortunate short lived "tologist". I was intro-ed into tology thru my older brother, who had joined back in the late 70's when i was 18 and shortly there after went to work for the org in a city in nor-calif. I came out from Florida at the urging of my parents. I made the mistake of asking my brother "what is tology?" and immediately was at the org, getting pushed into signing up for the "communication course" after calling my grandfather etc for cash to pay for it. So i did that and i was so enamerded with tology that i quit my job and signed up to work for the "group". My first job was trying to disceminate tology and get ppl into the org and get them to sign up. That did not go well so they decided to send me to Portland to learn to sell "Dianetics". Just to coroberate their story of "sleepless in scientology",' when myself and 4 others drove in a 1960's Mustang from nor-Cal to Portland straight thru so i think it was a 17hr ride. When we arrived in Portland, it was 10-11pm and i thought we would shower and sleep-🤣🤣🤣 NO! We went to at least an hour long "muster" and i actually started to pass out. So i only sold one book and the first "muster" we had was where i learned that the "tology works with all religions" was a blatant lie, what happened was, one of my book selling buddies who had talked to a person in the apartments were selling at, made the mistake of casually replying to a potential book buyers comment regarding the Bible(i was raised catholic and though i was not a practicing catholic, i did believe in Jesus). So i obviously was not a book seller and we returned to nor-Cal, they finally gave me a day off. While i was gone, my income tax check had arrived so i finally had money.
So when i woke up the morning i blew, i told my brother i was going to do laundry, but i decided i was jumping on a bus and heading to florida where my family were living and after a week on the road i was finally home.
Of course my brother was pissed, used whatever ammo he had against me but i was honest to my parents and told them what happened. I did not talk to him for years.
My brother contines to be a tologist, and i have to say he created his own company in a tech related field and apparently made a lot of money (it was a tology tech. based) and he recently sold it as it was time to retire. I do have to add that my sister in law has never been very close to me.. Whether that has anything to do my blowing, IDK. There is more to my experiences with Scientology that this, way more so than ppl who worked for Scientology.. I will spill that aspect of scietology if anybody wants to hear it..
Fascinating story. Glad you got out when you did:)))
Dude that southpark episode honestly changed LIVES. That's incredible. Same with the Mormon episode. Even me as an atheist it took a dump on us and showed how we eventually split off into groups, which we did, killed the entire "movement" I donno if cancel culture or #metoo started it or ended it, but the whole thing died in like a year.
Timestamp? I love that episode! I can't find where they talk about it and I've listened to most of this, thanks.
@@0therun1t21 I just read the title and started blabbing to be honest.
@@0therun1t21 1:07:07 if u want to rewatch again.
Great point! And glad you're where you want to be☮️
I enjoyed both of the episodes about these cults 😊
So interesting and informative. Thanks Andrew. I can’t help think about the Plato’s Cave Allegory. People can live in a world of shadows on the wall and that’s reality until you either come out of the cave intentionally or not…seeing the light (to become enlightened) to the actual Truth of your world you can never go back living the lies in the Cave. Obviously, Plato explained it much better, but that’s how I remember it from 25 years ago in college.
I seriously never knew how f-ing dangerous Scientology was. How do actors get sucked into it?
It’s an interesting rabbit hole to look into! Andrew is one of the major voices exposing this cult.
It’s wild. I’ve been following all this since Leah released her book & her show w/ Mike Rinder ages ago. Celebrities have a very different experience in the church than the average, they’re treated like actual royalty so that’s part of it. Regardless, it’s SICK!!
Actors want to be famous so badly. I bet Scientology had connections for them. Or something that they dangled like a carrot
For a while back in the 70s & 80s the Celebrity Center had a decent reputation, although all a front of course.
Danny Masterson's mum was a celebrity Hollywood manager mum & recruited.
Many Hollywood hopefuls will grab onto any potential step to getting famous, although thankfully now that Scientology's abuses are getting exposed more & more, their membership numbers have been declining rapidly.
i think they are given a very different experience to the common folk
Andrew, that victim blaming attitude in Scientology is so vicious. Everything that I heard in this interview was a textbook description of a narcissistic structure, like, full-blown narcissistic personality disorder!
For instance, I thought they got you to join because they made you think you were a poor thing who needed support - but no, they aim for those who come from abusive families and are thus already used to being shamed for being sick, getting bullied etc. That would be an absolute turn-off for me. Not that I ever considered joining - but just thinking of hearing that at the outset…I would turn on my heels.
Then there’s sleep deprivation, wilful isolation, exploitation - it’s mind-blowing.
South Park made it quite clear that even if they were off a good bit, it was still SO CRAZY that there was no doubt it was really crazy, not just slightly odd.
The same thing that keeps surprising me about individuals in the Sea Org - that they are trapped in minute details that the little Davey wants fixed, instead of the big picture of spreading Scientology. And given the way marriage is treated by the organization, it's amazing how many people who have stayed married after leaving.
Claire is just so adorable!! Always pretty. So glad they're both free!!
I feel so sorry for all the innocents caught up in this Corrupt, Evil cult. IRS needs to reverse their perverse decision.
Fantastic conversation guys! Keep exposing the lies 💪🇫🇷💋
It is shocking to hear the ridiculous mindsets, like the "accidents" thing! Well done to all who've left and all the best to you in your lives. ❤
This was an awesome interview! Thankyou.
I am so happy to be out from a local class 4 ORG. I was abused from get go. My story is very different from others. I felt the leverages they had on me, similar from your story. The feelings were very frightening and staff and public couldn’t relate what I questioned, so I kept it for myself. When I realized the extortion and abuse wouldn’t stop, I had to do something about it, but it took a squirreling and a visit to FLAG in Clearwater, FL. I had to get my LRH library out from the book store, and the it was credited and debited on my savings account 15 months before. I had no space in my rental room, and my English language was not sufficient to handle those materials. The sale was for their stats only. I visited LA to get support how to leave Scientology. After coming back, I was not allowed to return LRH library, which was in thousand of dollars. Their excuse was that it was shortly after 3 months I got the material out Scientology. However, I had no proof that I didn’t get the LRH library out. Could you make a video how and when the books would be used in course room during its religious education so called. Also to add, the abuse added to severe chest pain, which levitated during my squirreling in the Academy surreptitiously. I was releasing constantly trapped air from my lungs, and I sneezed so much. I knew at that time I had to get out if I wanted to live. I was going from introvert to extrovert by connecting words to my language. I dared breaking away from LRH word clearing policies, and it worked. As I understand, all received auditing (by using money extortion) accordingly to LRH policies were severely illegal, a Scientology high crime. One can’t get auditing if one has misunderstood words in the auditing program. This area hasn’t yet been covered. I admire Claire and Mark very much. Thank you Clair, Mark and Andrew for doing this video, also with some leverages. There are more examples entrapment, like owning LRH library, so one only use those books, and not look elsewhere.
Nice you got them both. They’re the best. Claire is so cool. 😊
“Aaahh, that is a disgusting thought”. Indeed. I love Claire & Marc. Thank you Andrew for an excellent interview with great people.
The real strength of couples is that they are together. They share the experiences and secrets and problems, and solve it together. Scientology took it away from them. Scientology forces people to keep all the heavy stuff inside and no sharing. It's probably horrible to live like this.
Another thing that I learned is that in Scientology your job is more important then anything. More than your husband or wife, more then your child, more then your parent. So the organization can ask you to stop your relationship with your family any moment.
How people can be emotionally and mentally stable living under these conditions?
It takes courage to break out of a cult. My own exit meant that I was shunned by everyone dear to me except my eldest brother. He had escaped when I was a toddler, and when it came time for me to follow his example, I left too. It meant that every other family member would no longer speak to me but I've learned a hard lesson: they may be my biological family but if they treat me as though I'm a total loony and reject me without having made any effort to know me as a human being, they aren't family. Since that realization, the weight of the universe is off my shoulders and I've found people who do treat me as though I'm family. My eldest brother and I are in frequent contact and neither of us speaks to other members of our biological family. Severing ties is hard, there's no doubt, but the freedom from guilt, shame, insanity, dehumanization, I could go on with the description as there's so much to it, is worth the effort and pain of separation. It takes guts, sometimes desperation, but certainly courage to break those ties but the freedom on the other side is worth it. When I got out, I was 13 years old and about to enter a boarding school as a day student. I had just miscarried of a baby boy whose father was, who else, the cult leader. I packed my bookbag full of clothes and when I was dropped off at my new school, I went straight to the headmaster's office and explained to him what was going on. He was reticent to get involved because of the power and influence involved with town and city politics but he couldn't allow me to stay in that situation either. By the end of the day, he found a bed with two of the boarding students. I remember calling my eldest brother who immediately came from California to Massachusetts, and along with my uncle, they both helped me become an emancipated minor. According to my parents' divorce decree, my father was obliged to pay for my education and with emancipation, there was nothing the cult could do to get at me from the other side of the school's gates and security measures. I was free. It hurt like hell but I was free.
What a great interview! So interesting and narrated so well! Loved it! Such a lovely couple!
Even as a straight man, I totally get why Claire fell for Mark. His happy humours personality and the casual disregard for arbitrary rules. That’s rockstar qualities that’s almost irresistible for women.
You mean "arbitrary"?
And irresistible ☺️
@@ravenravella1000 Yep thanks! Changed it.:-)
@@rcristyNot really unresistible is a older exact synonym to the more common irresistible.
Agreed. He’s an attractive guy but women usually go for personality. Looks only go so far and get old really fast if the guy doesn’t have a witty and fun persona to back it up. I’d marry him 😂
I went in a Church of Scientology building once in Adelaide after seeing a notice about a personality test because it intrigued me but changed my mind about the test. I'm glad I did. 😊
Phew! 😢
Marc and Claire...my two favorite SP's! 😁❤
What a great listen. Thank you for this story. The world needs to hear what atrocities happen under the guise of religion. Keep putting it out there Andrew. Keep sharing these stories!
I could listen to the headleys talk allll day - soooo fasinating
I love your interviews. An interview with husband & wife Amy Scobee and Mat Pesch would be interesting.
Love these 2. Marc makes me laugh every time he says broad😂😂😂no that word didn't doesn't and never will bother me.
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Romance isn't dead "we gotta lock this up! " 😅 wish them both the very best in the , real world, Both are so lovely .
About the South Park effect - there's nothing that lessens fear of something more than the ability to laugh at it because it demonstrates a lack of respect, therefore implying that it isn't WORTHY of respect. No wonder COS dislikes comedy. Aaron from Growing Up in Scientology shows his understanding of this, for example, by the remarks he makes about COS and in particular David Miscavage.
I saw this thing that said what religion should you be. And it said if you have money be a scientologist
An outstanding video guys, please do more with Marc & Claire!!!
Just for more context: Where I live in Australia, the W word is used as a slur for people with Greek heritage. From watching Eli Yoder on TH-cam, some Amish people use the word “English” - people outside of the Amish community are the English, and they’re living English etc. You should talk to Eli if you ever get a chance to - he’s a ex-Amish and really delightful 🤗 Shelise had him on her channel too - he was fascinating!
Adorable couple. I'm sorry it's the most appropriate description I can think of ATM.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I would spend the rest of my life destroying those monsters. But, I would have left, with everything I needed, to destroy them.
Love Mark & Claire-Bear❤
From Australia🇦🇺
Yes we already know that Scientology controls their members. It still does not explain why a mother would stop talking to her own daughter. It's just incomprehensible, cult or no cult. We all have free will and critical thinking abilities.
Exactly. There should be a study on those who leave Scientology and those who don't (and are okay with ceasing contact with their loved ones). Claire or Mike could have stayed in Scientology and stopped talking to the other but they didn't. Why can't others do that?
@@valamoss That's what I am thinking. If the whole bloody family leaves this crazy church, then everyone can speak to everyone. I don't care if they are indoctrinated, a family is always more important than whatever the church promised them.
@@riase I know! When the family members are told that from now on, they can't speak to their daughter, don't they see it as a massive red flag? Why would they want to remain at a place where they can't be in touch with their daughter? Don't they see this as evil, to say the least? How do they justify such a crazy order? Do these people have brains?
@@lesliebe5249 I guess Scientologists love Scientology way more than they love their family.
@@noni434 Some Scientologists love Scientology more than their kids etc. Claire herself said that she would never do what her mother did.
Wow ...the poor children...power to them speaking out as adults..
Fab chat, thanks all! xx
Good to see you all!
I love Claire & Marc - they seem like the nicest people! ❤🙌🏽
It's always amazed me, that people who appear to be intelligent and quite rational, turn into complete bird brains when offered eternal spiritual life.
I have a Jehovah's Witness childhood/upbringing. Love it that basically ZERO of my childhood friends at that time are any longer any part of it. But nonetheless, we all were indoctrinated, and even tho we've not been part of it for YEARS, we all do still carry residual trauma, guilt, effed-up-ness! JW's platform is for the very poor, mostly, whereas Scientology seems to be big money cult. But regardless, the damage of a cult is still the damage of a cult. I basically think all religions are cults, but then i can't seem to NOT worry about a relationship with "God"....even tho I'm not buying ANY acceptable form of God. I'm scared to say i'm an atheist, and I feel like a liar to say i'm agnostic. The damage feels permanent. I hate all of it. But I still have it in me to "believe" in a higher power. Most religions and religious sacred books teach that "God is love." This is all I hang on to. If God is love.....which is the ONLY definition I can have faith in.....then we're all gonna be okay. And if there is no higher power, then we're all just gonna be dead, decaying and fodder for trees and plants! Circle of biological life. And either way, I'm happier with this than b.s. heaven, or the bridge, or paradise on earth, or 1000 virgins, or whatever!! If you've read this far, thanks. Peace & love and the best to you! xo
But, seriously, So sorry y'all have been through this. I raised my children independent of organized religion. We listened to Church (lotsa different denominations) on the radio. Watched Easter movies, etc...they still thank me today, they know so many people mind f*cked by their Churches.
My mom was the same way! She would tell me stories from the Bible and taught me a couple of prayers, she would explain the histories and timelines, and the stories behind Easter and Christmas. We watched ALL the movies (The ORIGINAL Ten Commandments EVERY year). She was protestant, my father was raised catholic, and so they decided to allow me to make my own decisions regarding my Christianity and whether when I was old enough, if I wanted to attend church with my school friends or not, but they would not be taking or pushing me to go. My mom is a believer to this day, but I've become agnostic. My mom will occasionally go to good Friday services, but she's not a member of any church. She'll still watch services broadcasted on television, but we're all pretty leery of committing to organized religion. The hypocrisy and cliques that are prevalent within a church are a huge red flag to us all.
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The thing with cafeteria style education is they don't get the whole truth. I would recommend reading the whole Bible from the beginning. A God whos best solution is to drown almost Every person and animal on earth, when... maybe he could be a better teacher.
A "Father" who demands t0rture and blo0d sacrifice of his own son, to be cajoled into being willing to forgive his own "children" whom he created to be "imperfect ". So awful.
Marc, moving from MO to Hollywood in '79 is a dramatic contrast in culture.!!! I'm an Iowa girl who lived, again in that area around that time. (I hated it. But was not yet aware that my church group was a cult that had moved my naughty husband where they could not extradite him.)
In 1989 I moved from Argentina to Mexico as a working musician with small savings, so I had to find my way, till I got an offer from a Televisa TV producer to play at the farewell tour of a famous pop trio. Televisa is a Uber-powerful media holding, that governs the opinion of almost the whole Mexican population(45 % of 90 million people were half illiterate at the moment) . When I had my job Interview, I clearly remember that DIANETICS book was at the Center of the producer's library, behind his back. I got to do a Scientology Personality test before being accepted. It was a long and weird test. Didn't know a lot about Hubbard's grift at the moment, but they did not interested me at all. Later, I learned that many production offices and managers at Televisa were Scientologists.
Televisa managers, presenters and chiefs had a "Veto" power atribute to shun and block artists or critics off the screens. Very weird stuff, indeed.
Such a good video. Thank you !
Yup if you find out about Zenu before you have been thoroughly fleeced the jig is up for Scientology
I always wonder if Hubbard was just taking the p155 out of all his followers. Sucked in guys I’ve got all your money and you won’t tell anyone what’s on those levels because you won’t want to admit to being sucked in. 😂😂
It’s really amazing Claire and Mark were able to stay married in such a toxic environment … and a testimony of their love and personal endurance that they managed to escape and live a life together in the outside world. Love seeing these two!! ❤
Thank you Cherie. Love your channel ❤
There were about 15 people gathered in the lobby and standing on the sidewalk at the Ron L. Hubbard Exhibition Center on Hollywood Boulevard last night. I thought (with 30 pounds of groceries on my shoulders) "I should sing a Sci song" but then I thought "not the time!" and then I see two dudes in uniform looking real important checking me out and so I belted out "I'm clear! Oh so clear, clear as a crystal heart you can see right through me..." and they looked...interested. Scies don't chase folk on bicycles anymore. I miss the old days...
Love Chris Shelton. …One thing I noticed all these people who have escaped from Scientology are so lovely
As I get deeper into learning all this horrifying stuff, I saw that JWs were considered a cult as well. Aha! It really struck a chord with me and gave me maybe more of a reason for my interest in assisting victims of cults now, years later. I am 60. Back in the 70s between elem.and jr.high, I became best friends with a JW girl who had a background of being bullied, like me. Anyway she used to scare the shit out of me with tales of Armageddon and the mark of the beast. She had me sooo convinced that my best stuffed animal was possessed. I threw it out. But I stayed best friends with her. It was weird, I can't explain. We lost touch after jr high, they moved, but she didn't have it good. Certain things about her now make so much sense now. Her parents openly despised me, but I never put 2 and 2 together until learning from you guys. I hope she wound out okay. Thank you for all you do.
With what is going on in the world today, you're going around with blinders on or living under a rock if you don't see the end of the world coming, and how the government will somehow track and control us, which is the mark of the beast.
Love the COS stuff, thanks
WOW Nice couple. Great interview 👍🏻
Love them!! Great interview! As always thank you for the respect you show your guests! 💛💛💕💕
Another amazing interesting interview.i love your work.thank you.x
First time viewer.
Fascinating information.
I known nothing about scientology except Tom Cruise is a member.
Anyway - most interesting part of This video was the section about
*People who have accidents* are shunned/ thrown out because *people who have accidents* it's *because you have done something malicious to another person* . Your *a trouble source*. (It's A transaction)
Happy New Year/ 2024 everyone
Never saw you in chat for the brief moment I stopped in @Andrew Gold. Another overlap. I popped in to say hi, and hit like. Watching catch up now 👍🏼✌🏼🙏🏼
was a livestream, not a premiere, so wasn't in the chat. thanks for popping in as usual ray jay! think this is a good one
What exactly are Scientologists saving the planet for? Their version of how the planet should be is utterly joyless!
This episode is a perfect example between religion and cults. Religions don't force you away from your family friends or people outside the religion, and while they do ask for tithes, they don't require it nor do they expect you to be poor for it.
You can decide yourself who to associate with and how much your religion needs from you. Scientology the is 1000% a cult. I wish JRE would figure this out.
In State of Man Congress Lectures, some where, LCon put his big fat stinky foot in his yapper stating "you wouldn't necessarily have done anything to pull in your first motivator/s" re: overt/motivator... PTS = you FUcKED UP to pull it in is not absolute as he makes it sound! That CABAL PUPPET DM shot itself in the foot with GAS and GASII horse shit, that is one serious outpoint that tore it for me! So glad you guys pulled through it all in the end! Takes BIG THETAN BALLS to confront it all! GodSpeed!
"Flipping burgers" is a pretty ubiquitous American idiom. I think it was "pumping gas" a couple decades before.
It sounds like David Miscavage has a ass kicking beat down coming to him. There is always that person that hits back
i think he always had big bodyguards with him He's a coward
The volume equalized itself...it's a miracle!
Please enable your closed captions for the hearing impaired. Thank you..
CC usually takes a day or so to load, but is automatic as far as I know.
@@rayjay6941 I think it has to be enabled on his end, not sure about loading time. You may be correct. Hadn't thought about that. Cheers
So to deprogramme a scientologist, they must be exposed to the South Park episode.
😂😂👍
The fact that the credits list everyone as John Doe and Jane Doe was just so perfect haha
Except Isaac Hayes 😅
The South Park episode is brought up a lot I've noticed in these stories. Someone on the sptv network needs to get Issac Hayes son, Issac Hayes III, to do an interview. He did one interview with the Hollywood Reporter years ago about how scientology basically forced Issac Hayes to leave South Park after a stroke, while he was sick, his "team" quit for him. I'd love to hear him tell his dad's story
@ellemarr7234 that's sad. They did all that to him. They forced him out of South Park and I have no doubt they stressed him out so much about that episode they caused his stroke. His son did a really good Hollywood reporter interview. I'd love to hear him speak
Great show!
Claire is gorgeous!
I love Claire and Mark. Wonderful people. Great video Andy
The thought that keeps occurring to me is how like The Borg Scientology is. I can't help but wonder if they helped provide inspiration to the writers of Star Trek TNG.
Resistance is futile.
This was definitely the "easiest to take" Scientology thing ever!😂 thank you Andrew, Mark & Claire😂😂😂😂
Correct about humour: humour is one of humanity's strongest pillars!
Andrew if you can find it, the same guys that did, Shirty The Slightly Aggressive Bear - Russell Crowe. They also did an amazing parody of Xenu as Tony Barbers Sale of the century that was FAF, somebody will have it hidden away somewhere, just like they made fun of a certain Oz channel that was screening Battlefield Earth every second moment they could for months. I wish the ABC or SBS had some gumption here in Oz.
What a lovely couple!😘
No matter which way you slice it this is a clear example of mind manipulation and control that only existed in novels by George Orwell and others
“Worldly” in the LDS jargon just means someone very much into materialistic things, ie - things of the world. They can be anyone… LDS or non. It can also be an action like being sleezy or sexually irresponsible.
Congratulations to the master Carpenter! Me, Y'all, Mark, Claire, smiling 😊 because we're old enough 😅 to 😂 remember the show 😂 SOOO funny
They're named Keenen and Kel.
👍 Yup getting old.....er, love from Texas y'all ❣️😎
you guys are so authentically adorable - i cant stand it. your trauma is my inspiration!!
Andrew, thank you for addressing the meaning of "blown for good". 🦔
It always feels as if Claire is looking straight into my eyes
I was raised by Navy and Air Force parents. I don’t know where we were or where we visited but I went into a Scientology “store front” and they gave me a book.
❤❤❤ #SPTV ❤
I really like Andrew, he is so genuine and down to earth. Great commentator.
NZ ; last century , in the 1980s , Scientologists were recuiting on Aucklands main st . I was approached to do a 'test' , of some 150 questions , with the tick boxes for , " yes , no , dont know " , this to me was a flawed questionare , as the "dont know" would have been better as , "circumstance dependant" with an allowable yes or no .
Aparently , they decided twice , that myself wasn't worth taking on .
Ive only come across the questionare once since then , in my first semester of Art School .
Edit ; I'm pleased the questioners werent happy with the results they got . The Art school one , showed (if followed as directed) gave an indication of where ones artistic alents were best suited .
I learned about several of the religions , prior to starting school - Catholics = music , until assaulted by teacher ; Methodists , via parental insistance , the same with the Church of England and , Presbeterians , Jehovas Witnesses , LDS via neghbours , who were quite high up in the local branch .When their son died , his body was kept at the family home , for about a week . No-one from the LDS , came offering food to help out , nor 99% of the neighbours , Mum decided to make a couple of big cassaroles , to cover the numbers - they supplied the starch and extra vege . The only concession to the family , from the church , was a drive past the familys house , which would have been the first time any of them had come into our suburb .- they mostly passed thru .Am realy pleased , that the direct aproach has proved the right way to know "God" , which can bring unexpected results for trained professionals , and under-employed alike , wether they took notice is unknown . Hopefully theyve learnt from whats happened .
What an adorable couple, wonderful.